One Step Closer to Whale LAN…

[@Snowmirage6453]

~8:35 "Sir we are 100% only playing bingo on all these computers. Team Fortress 2? thats just a specific version of bingo"

[@mickleman52]

B9, you killed my scout!

[@blaczko]

You can play TF2 bingo, just ask STAR_

[@k80theshade]

0:34 You heard it here, folks: Linus does *NOT* grind his own weed! He has people for that!

[@NorthLaker]

Surely it's one of his 'friends'

[@gasracing5000]

You don't bake the weed, the weed bakes you 😂😂😂

[@Snowmirage6453]

LTT Tshirt with this quote on it please? :)

[@garrettgoehring305]

It’s baking me right now as I watch this video

[@JoshLeRose]

LinusBakedTips

[@TheWindowStreamz]

So fucking real bro

[@OfficialDaveChannel]

I'm cooked like a fresh brioche bun

[@Genesis8934]

11:08 Dan is such a kindred spirit. I love building out systems for the sake of building out systems as well!

[@gasracing5000]

Passion projects aren't always profitable, but are generally worth it

[@College1206]

"Sorry I didn't know your job existed. Sounds like you're doing it well." 🤣

[@CrustStarGaming]

"you dont bake the weed, the weed bakes you" I NEED THAT ON A SHIRT

[@usaevo8]

It sounds like Linus had a Karen moment and "asked for the manager" in order to get this onsite visit of a GM. Good for him.

[@TAMAMO-VIRUS]

Every once in a while, the inner Karen needs to be released.

[@Neojhun]

Everyone is a Karen when trying to get a business running and dealing with municipal local government.

[@SteveBrownRacing]

How is PC gaming NOT recreation though? I imagine about the same number of people watching a lan party as I imagine watch competitive bingo matches.

[@samlynn1652]

Because PC gaming hasn't lobbied to be categorized as that. Give some donations to city councilman or whatever and see it change.

[@JeffDM]

I expect the term implies a certain level of physical activity that exceeds what you see in normal computer game play.

[@plankera]

@@JeffDMMakes sense, but there’s no real physical side to bingo either. At least with gaming you need to haul your equipment around.

[@JeffDM]

@@plankera I agree on that front. If bingo is allowed then any kind of computer gaming should be allowed too.

[@nicolasleberre1756]

gaming has mostly been associated with gambling in planning department, and has been treated as such (and mostly banned) since the 90s in many cities. Funnily enough a way to ban them was to push them out into industrial park, but seems like the city of Surrey decided it would be banned from industrial parks too... As for parking requirement you might have to push for a change to the local planning bylaws if they have no provision regarding shared parking spaces (via a binding contract) between commercial/recreational uses. It's bad practise to not have such provision but many such case, especially in suburbs.

[@RJohnODonnell]

10:53 This is the difference between building something more as art Vs building something more for utility. But I do agree that the validation aspect is a factor that can cloud either one of them.

[@Wavepush]

Techtubers are always doing crazy things. Jack is making an underground bunker in his backyard, Links is making a badminton/LAN center

[@plankera]

You mean Zack at JRE? Edit: just noticed the Linus typo, I’m now assuming both are intentional.

[@Wavepush]

@@plankera I think I was sleep-deprived, the Links was supposed to be Linus. :') Jack is correct tho

[@plankera]

@@Wavepush Huh, I don’t know this Jack

[@Wavepush]

@@plankera Zack Nelson, JRE. I think I need more sleep

[@plankera]

@@Wavepush Lol, so do I.

[@AlexUnknown37]

LTT weed would be LITT

[@CompletelyNormal]

Sounds like you were running up against mandatory parking minimums, which are one of the worst things about North American cities.

[@josefmaxwell2541]

Yeah. I currently live in Haarlem in the Netherlands. Whenever I want to do something in Amsterdam or Rotterdam, I use public transport unless it is not possible for whatever reason. Parking minimums are an excuse for bad infrastructure.

[@AndrewWilde]

This guy watches Not just Bikes and Climate Town. Down with parking minimums!

[@alien9279]

Clinate town is epic! ​

[@ThePwig]

@@AndrewWildeCity Nerd is the channel I prefer

[@vaalrus]

Dan is my kinda of infrastructure dork… I will Build It, You can come if you want to. Now, what do we build next?

[@drakai5677]

As someone who lives in Surrey should I be doing anything?

[@CanIHasThisName]

Linus talked about it in a previous show and he would organize something if there was anything for regular peeps to do. Right now it’s just him trying to have a conversation about it.

[@the_undead]

There's probably some way to complain to the city about there not being s*** to do without going to another city and how you'd be happy to keep them in power at the next council election or whatever the correct term is for city stuff if they solved the problem where there isn't s*** to do in the city

[@AndrewWilde]

You can write to council (public input/public hearing on specific topics) and voice how you want them to shape the city. The more people that voice similar interests, the more changes councils will make. It’s often a vocal minority that can make the difference 👍

[@hunterjw88]

new favorite linus qoute "you dont bake the weed the weed bakes you" 😂

[@k80theshade]

Guys: Let me help you here. I have twenty-five years of wrangling with officials under my belt: Whenever things get *STUPID* hard? That's code for, "What's in it for me?" Whenever that obstructionist vibe starts to settle in, it's not, "no." Not really. It's, "Use your money powers to convince me."

[@RebelTvShka]

Money or inspiration/passion.

[@freescape08]

0:49 I thought the exact same... And let's be real, it's not the canadian version, its the BC version.

[@DanielBrotherston]

In my experience with large organizations (private companies specifically) nobody ever says no...they just create roadblocks. And solving those roadblocks doesn't actually help, because the other parties are not acting in good faith. It's great if you find someone who is working in good faith, that's awesome, but when you don't, those who are are obstructionist must be circumvented, not worked with.

[@twhittaker4343]

It took me such a long time to work out you guys were saying Surrey

[@ExtraWishes]

For a possible idea for parking, maybe use a local Park and Ride for parking and run a shuttle service to it from the LAN center

[@bloody0]

ive never seen dan get so firm and serious...

[@AndrewWilde]

Playing cities skylines taught me adding parks and entertainment things makes people happy. Surrey looked at their happiness heat map lol.

[@Metalrasputian]

I don't know if this is Dan's history but the "I love to build things but don't expect them to get used" 100% reads as a fellow corporate IT guy conditioning. "I know we just spent $500000 and 100s of hours of labour on the new Azure file sync server, but the CFO doesn't like OneDrive, so don't worry about pushing it out. We'll just host VMs on it or something."

[@freddydickson3071]

linus 100% said “weed”

[@zanderboy]

100%

[@mycroft791]

I used to be a city employee [911 operator, police/fire dispatcher] in a beach town that pretends to be a big city four times a year due to events that draw into our area a couple to few hundred thousand people from across the country. You say there are rules how to do things for a reason. True, but with politicians and certain interests involved, the reason may very well be because they said so. And, usually the person doing the saying is the City Manager because you can't make them as interested in your idea as those aforementioned interests can make him/her in theirs.

[@RogueCow]

100% said weed everytime

[@zanderboy]

agreed

[@omegahunter7147]

So you're telling me that Surrey is the butt of jokes in Canada and you want to shake that butt 😂

[@crissyhutto8409]

Linus you are overlooking a very obvious solution to your problem sir. Show the general city manager the amount of money South Korea brings in with E-Sports and you may change their mind far easier than expected. Use a few NA regional events as a more localized example as well. If you show them dollar signs those no’s🚫may turn into o’s😮

[@JeffDM]

Seems like a tuck fun of money to spend on electrical and electronic infrastructure if you don’t even know if you can hold the events that will use it.

[@Spiralkatron]

Could have called it "Smashington"

[@bradleygregg4063]

The law about not being able to play video games in an industrial building( it also applies to bars) is targeted at slot machines and for what ever stupid reason hasn’t been amended to allow non-gambling applications.

[@OK_ACME]

Dan's final comment is amazing!

[@nathrm]

420 crack up yeahhh The rest of message were lost 🤣🤣🤣

[@S3KHAR]

What is whale lan, and how can I be a part of it?

[@coreyman00]

be cool for allowing remote users with a vpn connection to the whale lan

[@znewt99]

Whale LAN bingo event?

[@matismf]

So when is Surrey going to get its red light district

[@buzdalys5524]

he did say weed, he did not pronounce it wheat

[@samlynn1652]

This sounds like a culture issue. They crop up in any large organization.

[@Cheater357]

I heard weed too.

[@shinjisan2015]

Entertainment is primarily passively consumed, whereas recreation is primarily participatory. Therefore computer gaming is recreation, not entertainment.

[@thenormalprodigy3844]

4:52

[@johnwilliams1143]

Damn I've been watching for 10 years, never really looked into where exactly Surrey is. You guys are hardly Canadian lol

[@friescustomfabriction3016]

Most Canadians live in 100 miles of the border 😂😂. It's too cold for too long further north for most of us

[@BHFFS]

"Why are we just a suburb of Vancouver?" "We can't do anything without parking." That's why you're a suburb. Car dependency.

[@the_undead]

By that logic there is no city in North America because pretty much every city has car dependency here. So that doesn't hold very well, also, they're specifically talking about Land events which would be happening over the weekend and at night in a business district where the businesses will be closed for weekends so the buses won't be running to that area, I suspect there is public transit that goes to that area during business hours but because there's currently literally nothing there outside of business hours, why do they need public transit to go there for literally no reason on the weekend

[@BHFFS]

​@@the_undead Nothing being open late and on weekends is also a tell tale sign of a suburb lol. Also there are lots of cities in North America with pretty good public transit, and Vancouver is one of them.

[@the_undead]

@@BHFFS You are aware there are reasons other than it's a suburb for certain businesses in a certain business district to not be openly, right? Like for example there's a school bus yard in that area (this is just an example) believe it or not, school buses don't need to run on the weekends or late at night. I know this is a really shocking discovery but it is the truth. Not every business needs to run 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and saying just because one particular area is full of businesses that don't run for 24 hours a day. 7 days a week does not mean that entire city is made up of those. Given The way Linus talks about the other businesses in his area. I suspect they're stuff like mechanics shops or similar which can run on the weekends but might not for various reasons

[@zanderboy]

anyone else here in the comments for the fact he deffo said "weed"

[@Shubh-1]

just throw money at the problem

[@ChazzleDazzleVideos]

Welp i heard weed its time to smoke😂😊

[@Iamtheman325]

Well weed is legal in canda though s o...

[@pjdkryan]

Brilliant. 😂

[@Karthig1987]

And you can't say no. Lol

[@austin_andrade]

I'm sorry but when government has become so limiting that instead of allowing growth of business and economy that they have become the force that completely deters all growth, than that is too much and corrupt gov.

[@Brendan_Keyport-WA7BMK]

Surrey is always gonna be the butt of jokes.... Because they're stupid with zoning code.

[@aaro_n]

I heard weed also.

[@JacobHazell]

You shouldn't have to go through this much regulation to open a private business....

[@the_undead]

For what they are trying to do, I would agree. However, these rules exist for various reasons and the people writing them almost certainly had good intentions. They're just being exploited by the people currently in power to get what they want and not what the writer of the rule intended. On the parking issue that Linus brought up that would not be the worst idea for a rule to just prevent a entertainment center from opening in a place that does not have the parking to support it and then clogging the parking lots of other businesses which could cost them potentially thousands of dollars because something outside of their control happened and that could legitimately kill smaller businesses, however not giving Linus the ability to try and solve that problem is where the issues really start cuz if he can work out a deal with businesses in his area then why can't he have this building that could be occupied by a bunch of people over the weekend.

[@ablueprofilepic9876]

W

[@BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL]

Badminton..... bro no ones going to tell him everyone hates it, are they? lol

[@clx001]

I understand how having this overbuilt facility can be frustrating. But knowing that it can't operate as a lan center under current regulation and still building it out like this puts all the financial risk 100% on you. The city shouldn't be expected to bend the rules like this. Maybe it makes sense in this case, but big companies like amazon can always just invest x million dollars build facilities and then talk to the city "we invested x, it would cost y jobs if you don't give us a permit" changing (local) legislation shouldn't be a matter of financial funds.

[@DeosPraetorian]

?

[@Gamerboi99]

I'm kindof confused? Where did he say they HAD to bend the rules for this? The facility is being built strictly as a perfectly allowed badminton center. They want to use it for more than just badminton, but the facility would still exist, regardless of its use as anything else. It being used as a LAN gaming convention location is just a "hey, wouldn't it be cool to do this?" thing. The talking with the city about it is trying to see why it couldn't be used as such, and if there is anything they can do to allow such a use. Linus doesn't personally like the discussion being "no, you cannot do this because we say you cannot", he wants to get a more concrete "this is a safety hazard" or w/e the case may be. In the end, if the city just says no, it will still be an overbuilt badminton center.

[@clx001]

@@Gamerboi99 "facility being built strictly as a badminton center" what? Linus himself said it's has much more infrastructure than required for a badminton center.

[@Gamerboi99]

@@clx001 Yes, he did. He doesn't NEED the top of the line PA system, and potential Hawk-eye system. It doesn't need the over the top networking and recording systems he has planned to have put in. It is way over the top for "just a badminton center", but in the end, that is all it is strictly designed as. Just like with his house, and the lab, and everything else, he could settle for basic, but his entire thing is "why settle? why not push for it to be just that much closer to the bleeding edge?" The entire point of the idea for being a LAN center and potentially hosting some "smash bro's tournament" style event is just a thought they had, because the stuff they have added for the various tech he wants for the badminton (the cameras and PA and such) have resulted in infrastructure that could pretty easily support a decent sized LAN event. It was a "we have this large, state-of-the-art facility, we like gaming, maybe it can be used for more than JUST badminton?"

[@CanIHasThisName]

Really weird take. As is, the city can’t even properly formulate why it’s a problem and how is it possible that somehow gambling is OK but playing videogames isn’t. So clearly whatever rules are in place just flat out don’t make sense. Legislation absolutely should be a matter of funds, government should enable good business, not stifle it.

[@PubRunner]

Damn I thought I unsubscribed from all LMG channels.

[@grundian552]

Damn, no one asked