One Strong Army List for Every Warhammer 40K Army in 10th Edition - Competitive Tournament Rosters

[@auspextactics]

CORRECTIONS: Managed to miss units from the Eldar list again, should have had a bonus unit of Rangers and a D Cannon, sorry about that. Let me know any other errors, I'm sure there will be a few more with all these!

[@DecrontheWarrior]

Hardest working KZbinr out there! Love your videos

[@Zeergruush]

Am I missing something from the Blood Angels list? App says it's only 1890 points which sounds really low for a 2k point army. Literally could fit a heavy intercessor unit in just for luls :D

[@luxferre5546]

No timestamps!?! Boy you are getting lazy! 😂😂😉

[@The_Sharktocrab]

​@@luxferre5546in the description

[@luxferre5546]

@@The_Sharktocrab That`s my boi

[@Happy-zg4zd]

Man casually pumps 1 hour long vids daily

[@MrBiochronic]

What a nerd 😅

[@sleepiestagent]

I could prolly make a power point slideshow every day too

[@dantizzle01]

​@@sleepiestagentdo it then

[@NedRigNerd]

Easy to do when your not building these lists. And just telling you other people's armies. I thought this video was actually going to be his choices for army lists. Not what other players units are. Because one of the worse things you can do in this hobby is go running out buying up tournament lists you see.

[@timbob1145]

@@sleepiestagent along with do the research in order to make it and have useful opinions on the info presented. Go on then pal, let's hear it.

[@auspextactics]

Not sure why timestamps don't seem to be coming up for this one - here they are! 0:00 Intro 1:46 Space Marines 4:24 Astra Militarum 7:17 Adeptus Custodes 9:44 Adepta Sororitas 12:46 Adeptus Mechanicus 14:28 Grey Knights 16:55 Imperial Knights 19:19 Blood Angels 21:47 Black Templars 23:28 Dark Angels 26:01 Deathwatch 28:54 Space Wolves 31:38 Chaos Space Marines 34:05 Thousand Sons 36:35 Death Guard 38:33 World Eaters 40:47 Chaos Daemons 42:52 Chaos Knights 45:17 Aeldari 47:18 Drukhari 49:05 Necrons 52:34 Tyranids 55:23 Genestealer Cults 58:39 Leagues of Votann 1:02:24 Tau Empire 1:05:06 Orks 1:07:17 Outro

[@RolandDeschain198]

Thank you so much for making this list. I'm kinda surprised there's no Salamanders on this list, I would have thought 10th edition's rules and launch box were kinda perfect for a killerlist for the sons of Vulkan.

[@cdr0915]

Emperor's blessing for this.

[@bluerobin2982]

​@@RolandDeschain198I would've expected it too, especially with all the new flamers going around

[@MoDlegion]

They are now working on the video directly.

[@tearsoftomorrow7872]

Lol the KZbin-generated captions, when hovering over the thumbnail with the mouse, rendered your intro as "hello and welcome back to horseback tactics"

[@shell_of_myself]

Fun fact about that death guard list, the guy should have won the tournament instead of getting 2nd. However an eldar player was caught using weighted dice, so all of his oponents retroactively scored 100 point games and one barely edged out the death guard guy for 1st. The story is actually very funny, the cheater tried to flush his dice down the toilet, but they were too heavy and sunk to the bottom, still showing 6s

[@Xhumed]

Wait, I've heard about the dice thing somewhere else, even saw a pic. Guess they were blessed by Nurgle after they ended up in the loo... Imagine cheating when playing one of the current strongest armies. Shame.

[@timeenoughatlast3368]

52:35 Hey thats me! I'm honoured but I got very lucky at the GT and one of my wins was because my opponant got caught cheating. It was a super fun list but was by no means perfect. Looking forward to my next event!

[@alphachurch01]

I was very curious about your list and have quite a few questions. How are you using the leapers? just looking at their stat line and abilities i can't figure out where they be good to use and all play of them i've seen they just get killed off quick. You using the hormagaunts as quick point cap or more for unit hold up?

[@russianbot2630]

How did he cheat?

[@Dracobyte]

Thank you for taking time into making this list! For all newcomers remember: no matter the "meta", play what faction is the most fun and visually / thematically appealing to you.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Yeah!! Sometimes chasing the "Dragon Meta" is very silly and tiring.

[@mrheisenberg83]

Chasing the meta is dumb, especially if you don't play tournaments. But sometimes an army gets shafted so hard that playing it is just no fun anymore. That is when you put that army on the shelf and start collecting something else until a few years down the line the rules change and the army becomes playable again. Having 1 Imperium, 1 Chaos and 1 Xenos army is not a bad idea. No need to go all out with your side armies though, that stuff IS expensive after all.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

@@mrheisenberg83 Thank you for the advice.

[@WiLDRAGE777]

Yep, I've been sticking to Necrons since 4th. Sometimes they are good, sometimes they suck, goes in cycles. I'm quite happy Warriors are actually good again though; I have so many of them since you can't seem to buy any Necron box product without having 10 of them thrown at you.

[@rhard8423]

Shocked by how GK was so hyped up just to end at 22nd out of 70 and death guard being shat on but ending up 2nd out of 30. Truly a weird world or just skill difference in players.

[@cyrocloud]

I think the issue is they have very strong rules, they just do no damage, and have incredibly few units, so if a few get picked off early you can't win on the secondary.

[@lokisrun]

The Death Guard player was ranked number 1 in the world with Death Guard

[@erickt8184]

Grey knights doing as expected 😂

[@JimH.]

It's skill but it also shows that DG are not nearly as bad as people think. Are they weak? Yes. Do they need buffs and/or rules tweaks? Yes. But PM are still one of the best if not the best battleline units in the game and DS are still insanely good (though the 4" move is still dumb). It's the rest of the army that needs help.

[@Nick_Whiskey]

Death Guard players really showed they are made of tissue mentally.

[@anexistanthuman2435]

The purpose of mortarion in the death guard list is to babysit the plagueburst crawlers to allow them to ignore all modifiers, this includes the stuff from indirect, but also things like -1 damage and armor of contempt.

[@Brigma13]

As others have mentioned, the Kastelan's become vulnerable to anti-infantry when a Datasmith is included since leaders add all their keywords to a unit at the moment. The Master Annihilator on the robots unfortunately doesn't benefit the robots at all. From the index "While the bearer is leading a unit, ranged weapons equipped by models in that unit have the [SUSTAINED HITS 1] ability." The twin fists aren't ranged weapons, so they're ineligible. The Incendine Combustor is a TORRENT weapon, which means it doesn't do hit rolls at all, so doesn't trigger SUSTAINED HITS. Sadly, the only weapon that would benefit is the Cybernetic Datasmith's Archeotech Pistol.

[@DaBlueIghuana]

Let him cook

[@MegaGlassguy]

On the other hand, Kastelans gain a 4+ FNP when a Datasmith is included with them, helping to mitigate all sources of damage and not just anti-infantry.

[@Brigma13]

@@MegaGlassguy Sadly, it is only the Datasmith that gets the 4+ FNP.

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@Brigma13 I did a reread and what the hell, you're right. It says, and I quote, "While a Cybernetica Datasmith model is leading this unit, *that model* has the FNP 4+ ability". This is stupid. Characters can't be targeted until the other models are dead unless precision weapons or melee are involved. So Kastelans become more vulnerable and Datasmiths hardly get any extra survivability (not like you'd want to kill them due to the aforementioned weakness and that they die once left alone). Feels like this rule is in serious need of a revisit.

[@Brigma13]

@@MegaGlassguy I had the exact same reaction. You could cheese unit cohesion and have the datasmith not in cohesion when a robot dies thus killing him and getting rid of infantry keyword 😆

[@escherleduc9567]

This is just the best source of information. I love watching your videos relevant to my army. I can’t thank you enough and all the work you put in.

[@ravenRedwake]

37:31 that plague fist should be something like “necrotic fist” where it is sorta like the old Black Mace daemon weapon where it would cause mortal wounds in a squad.

[@JuiceBoxHerox]

1:05:07 Hey thanks for the shot out! Super happy to represent Orks on your channel!! 1 quick comment. you did forget to include the enchantment I had for my nob and smasha squig, I used head woapa kill choppa on him giving him devastating wounds. And because he was anti vehicle / monster 4+ I would average around 4 - 12 morals against those kinda of units. Super strong combo!

[@maxmork2]

congrats on your tournement results! I hope this git can ask some questions: -How did the kill rigs work our for you? They get rated quite lowly in tier lists at the moment, while trukks get top marks. -What turns did you call the waah? Storm boyz, kill rigs and kommandos are all quite fast, while ghaz with his meganobz takes a turn longer to arrive. -Did you consider a beastboss on squagorsaur/mozrog? and why did you not take him. I hear people are quite enthousiastic about him, but I don't have the model yet :) I love to nob with headwoppa kill choppa, shreds vehicles!

[@JuiceBoxHerox]

@@maxmork2 - kill rigs were kinda underwhelming. I’m not convinced that taking two is the correct way. I mainly took them because of the S 12 wurr tower. There are a lot of T 10 Vic’s out there and the wurr tower is one of the few answers orks have to them. - usually called waagh turn 2. The +5 save orks now have plus 10th being less lethal and all the options for cover surviving turn 1 and setting up for a strong turn 2 waagh worked pretty well. The stratagem ‘er we go fixes the issue ghaz has being slow. - Moz and the beast boss on squig do look very good. I didn’t take them because I don’t have the model painted. Otherwise I might have cut a kill rig

[@Ulfsark1602]

Already knew what the DG list was going to be lol

[@lebambam4347]

One of my favorite videos recently. Quick hit across the field with some commentary. Dig it!

[@aloser8703]

Me in school: I hate PowerPoints Me after school: I am so excited to watch the new PowerPoint from the guy who puts out multiple daily

[@Celentar]

I see no one talking about admech list like the one in yours. It's basically sapmming breachers and disintegrators with beleros cannon also manipuls with omni sterilizer enhancement is doin about 10mw on avarage and can do it twize if overwathcing too.

[@auspextactics]

Yeah, it is a bit of an odd one, would have expected plenty of breachers myself

[@zachi2fox246]

@@auspextactics from what it sounds like, the guy didnt read the codex right and "cheated" this list so i dont expect this to be the norm.

[@diagyx]

@@zachi2fox246 IIRC Neither him or his opponents realized the smith made his robots vulnerable to anti-infantry

[@zachi2fox246]

@@diagyx if the torni was as slapdash as other say it was, im not shocked

[@D00M3R-SK8]

The Ork list looks good. Looking to get some Ork minis soon, and that's all stuff I am into that list. Nice to see some of the minis I like are also strong. Missed Skarsnik pre order today though, hopefully I can get one when it's released.

[@bigyeticane]

Genestealer Cult: Only 1 Nexos can use its free stratagem ability in each turn; it doesn't matter how many you have on the battlefield. This is a reoccurring restriction on most units with powerful abilities. Also, the Nexos allows you to use one stratagem on himself or his unit; it's not just any stratagem in general. Additionally, you can't use the stratagem if it targets more than just the Nexos' unit. For example, you can use Return to the Shadows for free on the Nexos' unit at the end of the opponent's turn, but you can only target the Nexos' unit. It doesn't matter if the Nexos leads a BATTLELINE unit, and the stratagem can be used to pick up 2 of them; if you are using the Nexos' ability to activate the stratagem, the strat can only target his unit alone. If you want to use RttS to pick up more than one unit a turn, you will need to pay 1CP to do it in the normal way first, and then you can use it again to target only the Nexos' unit for free. It takes a minute to absorb all of the ability's restrictions, so it is understandable if folks get it wrong. The Nexos still makes one unit very toolboxy. You can do at least one thing with a strat for free on each player's turn. You can throw grenades, auto-pass a battleshock test, enter Strategic Reserve, throw another buff on them when they come in from deepstrike, overwatch a unit, gain Lone Operative plus Stealth, Go to Ground, Transfer damage from a character onto a nearby unit, go next in close combat, or give one of your characters precision in CC. Just remember to use the actual stratagem FIRST if you are going to use it twice in a phase; the Nexos' ability to re-use a stratagem doesn't work if you do not do it this way.

[@MegaJButch]

I think he includes two to avoid his opponent sequencing the ability into uselessness.

[@brothgurlegion4229]

Amazing! Thank you. I was literally just thinking about needing one of these videos from you.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for your efforts into makig these updates and tier lists!

[@TreborKoor]

I mean this in the best way possible, and I apologize for how I word this, but I mean every last bit. You are the single most engaging power point presentation ever made for 40k. Every channel I've ever watched has referenced you, your release schedule is literally insane, and you are irrefutable in your info citation. Auspex Tactics is my first check for any need to know information.

[@PeteOfDarkness]

A lot of "obvious picks", but that AdMech list is actually surprising. No Kataphrons? Also sad that other Chapters mostly went with Gladius.

[@tyson7208]

It’s a super odd list with no Kataphrans and no Omni-Sterylizor. I heard that he got lucky with his missions and his opponent getting unlucky helped to keep him in the game even if he wasn’t removing a lot.

[@keyanklupacs6333]

Once per game advance and charge and advance and shoot and well as fall back shenanigans are frankly just really nice to have on any army.

[@AnarexicSumo]

@TheMarcosvolta As many others have mentioned he cheated unintentionally. They weren’t running the infantry keyword on the Kastelans as they should have and misread Master Annihilator and applied it to melee and flamers when it should only affect the data smith’s pistol.

[@PeteOfDarkness]

@@tyson7208 Anything with less than 36 Kats is sub-optimal lol.

[@planb8700]

Cause he fucked up the rules

[@mrheisenberg83]

I am not surprised, that the CSM list does not put Abby in the Terminator block as that is so expensive that it barely makes sense to call it competitive. Also I am quite disappointed that the obvious choice for SM is Ultramarines just because they have Blue Bob as their leader. I say it would make more sense to be able to put him into every codex compliant chapter as he is the lord commander of the whole gods damn imperium and already led the Indomitus crusade. So there is precedence in the lore for him leading non Ultras. It seems like all the other codex compliant chapters are quite hamstrung by this baffling choice. Or am I missing something here?

[@OGXenos]

It remains my eternal hope that the Primarchs be allowed to work for any Marines army, especially when Iron Hands have NO chance of getting their own Primarch since Ferrus Manus was the first casualty of the entire Horus Hersey.

[@samuelharmssambamsjm269]

The Adepta Sororitas doesn't look bad, certainly a better result than I could have gotten, but has the slight feel of someone trying to make their 9th list work. I think the Dialogus could be a fun addition for the retributors. They make miracle dice 6's, which is great for wounds and damage in those Multi melta.

[@bensemusx]

They make 1 dice a 6. Unless you are near the triumph you can only use one dice. Trying to get triumph ret combo within 9” is a bad idea. No army will struggle to wipe out almost 500 pts of T3 infantry. All that for 4-5 MM shots.

[@samuelharmssambamsjm269]

@@bensemusx who said anything about the triumph? You're right That's a terrible idea. I kind of just meant generally 6's are handy for AoF on damage or to punch through a wound.

[@geordieglobetrotter7090]

@@bensemusxi think once people see the triumph on the other side of the table they will throw all of their long range damage at it. I am scared in the long term that model might be a trap for sisters players. It is also an absolute nightmare to transport sadly

[@kosmosfantasias7545]

Multi melta is 18" so Rets will most likely not survived until they reach their targets. Triumph with MD spam on Exorcists might be great tho.

[@samuelharmssambamsjm269]

@kosmosfantasias7545 l think that's the best use for it; supporting a firebase. Stick it out of LoS near your exorcists up their reliability.

[@TT-ff9vq]

22:33 Lieutenant can't join Helbrecht because he does not have the Captain or Chapter Master keyword . Unless they allowed this in the tourney but that wasnt mentioned I think. Am I missing something?

[@SarithenVol]

This list has been doing well for me. Word Bearers! Word Bearers (2000 Points) Chaos Space Marines Slaves to Darkness Strike Force (2000 Points) CHARACTERS Dark Apostle (85 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Dark Apostle • 1x Accursed crozius 1x Bolt pistol • 2x Dark Disciple • 2x Close combat weapon Heretic Astartes Daemon Prince with Wings (210 Points) • Warlord • Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh • 1x Hellforged weapons 1x Infernal cannon • Enhancements: Intoxicating Elixir Master of Possession (70 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Rite of Possession 1x Staff of possession Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (130 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Chaos Familiar 1x Combi-weapon 1x Force weapon 1x Infernal Gaze • Enhancements: Liber Hereticus BATTLELINE Legionaries (200 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Aspiring Champion • 1x Boltgun 1x Chaos Icon 1x Close combat weapon 1x Heavy melee weapon • 9x Legionary • 1x Balefire tome 9x Bolt pistol 6x Boltgun 9x Close combat weapon 1x Plasma gun 1x Reaper chaincannon Legionaries (200 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Aspiring Champion • 1x Accursed weapon 1x Astartes chainsword 1x Chaos Icon 1x Close combat weapon • 9x Legionary • 8x Astartes chainsword 9x Bolt pistol 9x Close combat weapon 1x Heavy melee weapon OTHER DATASHEETS Chaos Land Raider (255 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Armoured tracks 2x Soulshatter lascannon 1x Twin heavy bolter Chaos Terminator Squad (390 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Terminator Champion • 1x Accursed weapon 1x Combi-bolter • 9x Chaos Terminator • 9x Accursed weapon 9x Combi-bolter Helbrute (155 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Missile launcher 1x Twin lascannon Obliterators (160 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 2x Crushing fists 2x Fleshmetal guns Possessed (145 Points) • Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided • 1x Possessed Champion • 1x Chaos Icon 1x Hideous mutations • 4x Possessed • 4x Hideous mutations

[@spaghettimkay5795]

Very cool list, I'm a Lorgar simp too. I would say however that the Dark Apostle is really underpowered in my opinion. I'd replace him with an Exalted Champion for a flat +1 to hit on one of your legionnaire squads.

[@SarithenVol]

@@spaghettimkay5795, I have the Dark Apostle attached to my ranged unit of Legionaries to make their melee attacks +1 to wound, and for his Demagogue ability for a once-per-game remove Battleshock from a friendly unit within 9”. Making a unit too zealous to be Battleshocked has proven quite potent in my games. I have an Exalted Champion in my 3k list with another unit of 10 Legionaries, so I do have one, just not in my 2k list. :)

[@JimH.]

@@spaghettimkay5795 You think +1 to wound for every model in the unit in melee and a once per battle no-longer-battleshocked is underpowered?

[@spaghettimkay5795]

@@JimH. I'd say it would be a lot better if that battleshock buff applied to dark pacts too. It's good for mass chainsword spam, but the thing is that with marines you're probably going to be wounding on 3s against most infantry anyway. If you're up against marines, make them Khorne and spam the Lethal Hits whenever you can. I think it would be a lot better on an army that doesn't have a voluntary 5+ autowound whenever you want. I just think with that context, +1 to hit in both shooting and melee is much better. Also the Champion is a lot cheaper as a buffing character

[@ConfusCat]

Just keep in mind, use this for tournaments. When playing with friends, you run fifty tactical marines.

[@primeknight4274]

Unacceptable I run 60 tacticals 20 assault and 20 devastator all tacticals withon rhinos and one command squad and captian in a razorback

[@AnotherMC]

One thing to note about the Khorne Berserkers thing, charge you only have to worry about charge first if you remain in combat or are intercepted by heroic intervention as the turn player determines which abilities resolve in which order if they happen at the same time.

[@Fredfredbug4]

That custodes list is a surprise. I'd expect it to struggle against shooting heavy armies like tau or guard.

[@nightlordnorris4446]

Not a lot of AP for the Tau unless you got devilfish and some broadsides or piranhas deployed, though. If custodes succeed those charges and get into Melee, most stuff doesn't really exceed 1-3 wounds so it'll all die very quickly.

[@andyrobinson2077]

The Astra Militarum player was allowed to use Reinforcements with Creeds 0CP ability allowing 2 full units to revive using only 2 CP. That’s 400 points every turn reviving. This is not allowed in most tournaments and is probably illegal.

[@milomoran582]

the guy said in another comment he only got it for free like twice. thinks he would have won regardless

[@baxykilafsh1313]

The datasmith with master annihilator makes me think that the guy wasn't playing the rules right. Even if he took the enhancement because he had some spare points left, he could have taken omni-steriliser which would have the unit a much better buff than a single pistol shot gaining sustained hits 1.

[@planb8700]

He didn't, he applied it to the flames and fist while not using the inf keyword they gained on accident

[@baxykilafsh1313]

@@planb8700 thought as much

[@patykaarplegos6282]

Man, just learned you can target the armored sentinels with the Revival stratagems. That seems pretty good.

[@tailssonicteam1604]

Yep for some reason 😂

[@weissraben4476]

Though it is worth noting that the guy was using Creed's ability to trigger Reinforcements! a second time per turn and for free, which is... contentious at best.

[@adamcarey6093]

The guard probably shouldn’t have went 5-0. The TO let Creed use double reinforcements. Not how the rule works.

[@justno2655]

​@weissraben4476 it definitely wouldn't work, creeds ability requires you to be in range and you can't be in range of a non existent unit the list only won because of this oversight by to

[@keyanklupacs6333]

​@justno2655 you can also use the stratagem to target the unit because it had a specific clause that allows it "One *Regiment* keyword unit from your army that was just destroyed. You can use this stratagem even though the unit was just destroyed." Please make sure you read these abilities before making a statement like this. AT is a pretty high profile content creator so a lot of people are likely to see your comment.

[@lordamnesia]

The reason your seeing so many Chaplains in Terminator armor is because they give a 4+ fnp vs mortals

[@eo8240]

Chaos knight list looks pretty good. Can vouch for the Brigands. They did a lot of damage for me this weekend. The Daemonbreath spear is way more effective. Ran a tyrant with a harpoon and flamer and overwatch saved the day for me. Going to be running a double gatling cannon despoiler this weekend to see how it goes. Abominant wasn't too good though sadly. With the AP of all the other big bois it just doesn't pack enough of a punch anymore.

[@tabletoploft]

You have blood angels and other space marine subchapters that are not using their space marine subchapter tactics… so they’re just plain space marines with special characters

[@themos9751]

yup, that’s 10th unfortunately. Oddly enough for BA, ignoring the ridiculous “primaris apothecary with BD + Desolator squad” our best unit isn’t even a jump pack melee squad (or even primarily a melee squad). Tycho + command squad looks really strong.

[@VT_Jord]

Hey so I'm the guy mentioned in this video for blood Angels, the only reason for using gladius is the tactical flexibility it offers, the BA detachment has play and is great, but this was a test list to see how it performs and I am looking at running the sons of sanguinius detachment with no desolations and a death company Dreadnought in there aswell 😉

[@VT_Jord]

@@themos9751tycho is very powerful, I personally would never run him because fluff wise he is dead 😂😂😂 but I believe our best unit is death company and lemartes based on pure efficiency the -1damage and the damage output is ridiculously good I've taken a. Whole knight army shooting and still survived with them so yeah just some friendly advice 😂😂

[@themos9751]

@@VT_Jord I think their ability to tank incoming fire is going to be less necessary with GW (perhaps over)balancing knights through Towering, and indirect fire units that overstepped the mark. And while they’re definitely the best in Gladius, I think the raw strength of Tycho+CS is technically higher since they can be taken in SOS without having issues with getting into effective range. Still, I can definitely see DC+Lemartes as a vital contender. And they’re unarguably the best in a Gladius detachment, which does make them the de-facto best since Gladius is the strongest way to run BA over a SoS detachment Sucks that we’re limited to only one epic hero. Lists with Lemartes tend to want more jump pack units overall, aka want Dante. Might look at running Tycho+CS and Lemartes+DC in one list

[@gyulajakab5852]

To people claiming deathguard are fine because one guy (who happens to be one of if not the best deathguard player in the world) did well at small tournament, Look up the win loss stats for the current mission pack. At the time of writing Deathguard are sitting at a 33.8% win rate across 577 games according to goonhammer. The real win rate when you deduct mirror matches is 33.51% the only faction doing worse are tau. The deathguard are losing more at 16.2% below average than the 'broken' aldeari were winning at 15.17% above average.. Not a deathguard player myself just looking at the data.

[@haraldbredsdorff2699]

I suspect part of the problem is that GW think high toughness is a powerful buff, so lowering it by one would be powerful too. Problem is most armies ignore toughness, because they have easy access, to anti-weapons and lethal weapons that ignore it. So making armies based on high toughness does not work, and death guard have nobody to use their ability on. My "quick fix" would have been to replace the current aura with a feel no pain aura. Not sure if it would fix it, but I suspect it at least would help.

[@mapsmaps2215]

Preparing for my first local tournament here, bringing salamanders. They havent announced rules yet but I think it will be 1000pts. Thoughts on this list? Vulkan Hestan Predator annihilator Infernus squad (10) Attack bike x3 W/assault bike Drop pod to carry the infernus Infiltrator squad (x10) (or a devastator squad?) Librarian in term armor attached to a Terminator squad (5) Should leave just enough points for the honor vehement Never had to build a list before

[@jamesdowning-green4514]

Slight thing on the Deathwatch if you listen to the interview Terrence did he had the thief of secrets on the terminator and the beacon on an apothecary.

[@shakyrob6512]

I am enjoying the change to army building in 10th. Only actual requirement is one character/hero for the purposes of Warlord. No more troop "taxes" or worrying about what does or doesn't have Core. Sure you can take up to six Battle Line units (formerly troops) but now that every thing has OC... And nonBL units getting a much higher number. I feel like it makes for more interesting list building over all and I look forward to seeing how things shift going forward. Sadly the Leaders leadable unit selection still needs to fleshing out and hopefully gets just that as the codexes start releasing.

[@Rejjyt]

And the good thing is that baby knights are battleline and therefore can be up to 6 of them without needing the silly deploy all together then they're not units bs

[@universeturtle]

I imagine the DG lists that are underperforming are commiting the sin of using too much DG. That winning list had no blightlords and 20 cultists for good reason. Cultists get to infiltrate giving a much needed movement buff to a slow army, and can spread the sickness at a rate that makes it useful before turn 3 which is the armies big problem IMO.

[@ReynardCalcifius]

I saw people on the 40k subreddit saying "JuSt RuN wArHoUnDs" like bro if I wanted to play CK I would but I want to play DG!

[@universeturtle]

@@ReynardCalcifius Yeah the fact that assholes are still telling you to enjoy the shit sandwich GW served you is pretty shocking, like being a douche became an olympic sport.

[@GrandAdmThrawn]

Not enough Space Wolves proper in the Space Wolves list. But it's not unexpected cause SW got a hit in their face again for the 3rd time in a row from the "devs".

[@ShahbazBokhari]

Armoured sentinels providing a genuine threat to light to medium targets as well utility is just so Damn fluffy and good for the guard that I can’t help but be over the moon for them.

[@ethanjones216]

Fun tyranid list I’ve been messing around with in TTS, really been trying to make the hierophant work since it’s my favorite model: - Hierophant - 2x3 Pyrovores (set up in the hierophant for transport) - Swarmlord w/ 1x3 Tyrant Guard - 1x6 Zoanthropes - 1x6 Venomthropes - Exocrine - Haruspex - Deathleaper

[@EnRandomSten]

Only problem I see with the ad mech one is that the kastellans gain the infantry keyword from the datasmiths so any anti-infantry weapons are going to melt them

[@madknightpash6125]

The guy that ran that admech build and his opponents didn’t realize the anti infantry interaction, so it was not played that way.

[@EnRandomSten]

@@madknightpash6125 ah, that explains it lol So they played it like it honestly should work.

[@madknightpash6125]

@@EnRandomSten yep! I own a bunch of admech and really wish kastelans were good…

[@error-zq8yo]

same, i love my kastellans

[@harlankovacs6276]

yeah, i hate that rule, it should not exist at all. Infantry keywork should only apply wth "precision" weapons or the datasmith should have a specific rule to avoid it.

[@WoWisdeadtome]

That Drukhari list is quite similar to what I theorized being a strong list for them. Basically heavy shooting, particularly dark lance spam to deal with walkers and vehicles as infantry basically regardless of T value will crumble under 24", A2, 3+ BS, anti-infantry 3+. That is absolutely devastating against anything that isn't power armored and merely strong against anything that is. You then have a couple strong melee units to counter attack or clean up. The scourge drive by in particular I think is potent here.

[@jimmyellis5196]

Drukhari list is short 180pts?

[@alzef1375]

Interesting that the GSC list doesn't have the abominant. I've seen people in the subreddit talk well about it.

[@bigyeticane]

Agreed. Maybe the biophagus is leading them? I hope not though. He is better in any unit other than aberrants. And without a character leading them, the aberrants lose their Hulking Bodyguards rule- a pretty big defensive buff to be throwing away. Perhaps the list designer was strapped for points.

[@sharbie9540]

@@MegaJButchthe second Nexos is so you can use the ‘can’t be shot within 12” strat’ twice per turn. If you only take one then your opponent will just target that squad first and you wont be able to use the strat on the other unit

[@tomhiggart]

On the aduptus sororitas list, Personally I like the idea of cutting the 2nd seraphin squad for Morvenn Vahl. I feel like her boost to the paragon warsuits could guarantee a lot more damage from them

[@geordieglobetrotter7090]

I feel like they could cut a lot of that list and build towards MSU. Our units aren’t really durable at the moment, so I think maxing out on lots of the smaller units like crusaders and Arco’s and engines could cause be the way to go to try and win the objectives game.

[@tomhiggart]

@@geordieglobetrotter7090 I like the idea of bringing 3 sisters squads 3 retributor and 3 immolators, you put the retributor in the imollators for the full re roll of wounds on the disembark and 6 5 man battle sisters squads. Given this index in my opinion with the triumph as well that should be the sisters core build

[@noranomics]

Patiently waiting for GKs to get a buff but for now this list will do

[@garnmornelilith6591]

Strong is not a word that should share a sentence with either the death guard or admech. We have been betrayed.

[@groversmith618]

Such a helpful video! Thank you for this insight.

[@VillainousMagus]

Definitely a big help for choosing some units that I should bring in my armies.

[@georgem1219]

The astra militarum player was allegedly allowed by the TO to use creeds 0CP ability on the reinforcement stratagem, despite everyone else universally coming to the conclusion this is not a legal play!

[@internetuser320]

Yeah... Sentinel spam is the future of guard player now ;)

[@georgem1219]

@TheMarcosvoltai agree! I dont know how it was supposedly ruled otherwise!

[@mrj5552]

for tau: cadre fire blade, i put that shit on everything. no joke, cadre fire blade and breachers is so strong, especially when kau yon hits. you use that in combo with any major build and you can delete any opposing infantry you can run into. except necrons. they are sticky. edit: one pathfinder team plus darkstrider is very strong. you get a lot of value observing for two units, and taking dark strider frees up your recon drone slot so you can infiltrate and have grav inhibitor drone to help with defense or pulse accelerator drone for poking.

[@davidabbs4459]

This is a good video for me, I've tonnes of armies and never have any idea where to start!

[@chaosclg]

I swear auspex has a metal skeleton and glowing red eyes underneath his human form. Guys a MACHINE! 😂 🤖

[@MrFairbanksak1]

Looking at recent win rates, T'au needs all the help we can get. But hell, it should be expected that we suck right now: our deployment rule (at I think that's what it's called), For The Greater Good, provides a buff to hit, but also a debuff to hit if you want to try to split fire. So your anti-tank gun as well as the anti-infantry guns need to be focused on the same unit if you want to maximize chance to hit. It is ridiculous.

[@crowboy9818]

Key to sisters this detachment is small throw away squads to protect big hitters. Eg. Rhinos with 10 repentia and 2 crusaders/deathcult assassin's. Pop suffering and sacrifice for 1cp on the crusaders to protect your repentia and keep them alive longer. Also, 3 Arco's or 5 repentia run up the board Infront of your warsuits again, to protect them in melee when your opponent has fights first. Split up your 2 x 10 lady squad of Battle sisters into 4 x 5 lady squads to cover 4 objectives for miracle dice. Add that all up and that 5 miracle dice on your turn and even more when your small 2/3 man throw away squads die. Pump all those dice into your meltas and that should take care of business. The other way to play is very defensively and use imagifier/dogmata on squads to hold objectives for as long as possible.

[@bensemusx]

Suffering and sacrifice only affects models in engagement range, not the whole squad. Into large squads it’s pretty useless. It’s really only good into tiny 3 man squads or single model squads. There’s a reasons Sisters have a 35% win rate and it’s not because people are messing up a strong army that badly.

[@crowboy9818]

@@bensemusx yup, it's certainly takes some gamey manoeuvring but it can be done. 2 models can definitely tie up squads of 5-10 models on your turn and prevent them from fighting back against your repentia.

[@cypher1019]

i'm curious about the CSM list. I'm in the process of collecting some strong combis for it, but it seems none of them seem to find use here. What do you guys think about? • 10 Possessed with a MoP upgraded with Liber Hereticus all Undivided and use of Profane Zeal to get buckets of mortals. • 10 Possessed (9 "M) with one MoP as Slaanesh and UNNATURAL SWIFTNESS to run across the field Advance+1 and Charge +1 • 10 Choosen with a MoP to run Advance+1 and Charge +1 for free (no CP). WIth ICON so almost cant fail the pact. Upgraded with all Undivided and Liber Hereticus and use of Profane Zeal gain Buckets of Mortal Wounds too • Tzeentch Obliterator - For 1 CP you heal 3 wounds on this unit AND reanimate 1 dead Obliterator with 5 wounds (and LETHAL HITS at +5) • Nurgle Obliterator to hide it from shots from 12'' and melt them down at half distance • Helbrute with Havoc's chaincannon (32 shots) as a Tzeentch to get lethal AND sustained hits at +5 • Nurgle Terminators with Termi Lord cast on 0CP Dark Obscuration to protect Terminators and shoot them down with combi weapons

[@szalailaszlovid]

• Tzeentch Obliterator can be interesting, but if you dont have cp I prefer nurgle. MOP for possesed 6 fnp not enough for me. I think it better to make 10 possesed khorne 40 lethal hits can be more deadly.

[@cypher1019]

@@szalailaszlovid Yeah but MoP is only 70 Points, think thats ok for +6fnp and +1 Charge. And yes, of you dont have the CP nurgle would be better. But if you can get a whole 5w Oblit (80 point) + 3w on the other you better have 1 CP.

[@bjoernlund85]

Hey, the List from Daemons of Chaos is just 1930 pts, there is probably another unit of flamers or an exalted flamer missing?

[@kronksstronkstonks6360]

Webbers being used in GSC is surpising. Yeah its mortals on 6's but it feels super swingy in comparison to say, flamers or GL's. Not surprising that seismic's have dropped in numbers since they dont really have an anti vehicle profile anymore. Im honestly surprised Jackals are still being taken since their FnP detatchment and passive -1 to hit are gone. Cool to see Abberants in lists though. Finally worth their points. Edit: Unless I'm mistaken though, the ability allowing the nexos to reduce CP to 0 is usable only by one model per turn, which makes the 2nd obsolete unless youre super invested in moving ambush markers around. "Once per turn you can select one unit or model from your army with this ability as the target of a strategem for 0CP"

[@madknightpash6125]

Seismics are actually probably the best neophyte gun with all the buffs we can hand out and rerolls from the primus. Webbers and flamers are both meh but webbers are statistically better than flamers against tough things and gsc does not lack for ways to kill less tough stuff. Jackles just have a silly mortal wound combo with the alphus, averaging 16 mortal wounds a turn if your opponent does not kill them.

[@sharbie9540]

The trick with the second Nexos is to make use of the ‘can’t be shot within 12” strat’ on two units in the same turn. If you only have one Nexos then your opponent will target that unit first so you won’t be able to use the strat on the other unit

[@numjerlunker]

Thousand sons, I'd swap out some enlightened for tzeentch screamers, 4+ invuln, extra wound and higher strength & damage in melee, plus a bit faster. Only OC 1 though compared to enlightened at 2.

[@warpeace3755]

Vashtor Lead Chaos Points cost: 2000 • Vashtor 225 • Lord Discordant 220 Khorne Talisman 20 Baleflamer and Techno Injector (12-18 Attacks, Strength 4-10, AP 1-3, Lethals on 5+, 36 max melee damage potential. • Master of Posession 70 Slanesh w/Elixer 15, attached to Possessed. • Possessed 145/5 Slanesh • Master of Executions Khorne attached to Legionaries. • Legionaries 100/5 Khorne (Havoc Autocannon, 2x Chainsword, 1x Heavy melee, P-Pistol-Champ w/Heavy melee, Chaos Icon.) • Obliterators 320/4 Tzeentch Deep Strike • Venomcrawler 140 Undivided • Venomcrawler 140 Undivided • Helldrake 205 Slanesh Baleflamer. • Forgefiend 165 Tzeentch 3x Ecto Cannons. • Maulerfiend 155 Slanesh Fists and Tendrils.

[@konnichi_wa]

1:46 Space Marines 4:22 Astra Militarum 7:16 Adeptus Custodes 9:43 Adepta Sororitas 12:45 Adeptus Mechanicus 14:28 Grey Knights 16:55 Imperial Knights 19:20 Blood Angels 21:46 Black Templar 23:28 Dark Angels 26:01 Deathwatch 28:54 Space Wolves 31:38 Chaos Space Marines 34:04 Thousand Sons 36:35 Death Guard 38:33 World Eaters 40:47 Chaos Deamons 42:53 Chaos Knights 45:18 Aeldari 47:18 Druhkari 49:07 Necrons 52:35 Tyranids 55:23 Genestealer Cults 58:40 Leagues of Votan 1:02:24 T'au Empire 1:05:06 Orks

[@natejean3867]

The words Death and Guard are afterthoughts in the design studios minds!

[@RalphPlays87]

Ty u man for putting these videos out

[@InVerum]

The fact that this Nid list did as well as it did I think is maybe more a comment on the rest of the tournament pool than it's specific strenghts. Most top nid players woulnd't consider this particularly strong at all tbh. I maybe wouldn't put this forward as something to emulate, if this player did well that just shows they can make the best of a sub-optimal lineup. Most top lists I've seen run something like: 15 Zoans Walkrant (6" Assault Aura for Zoans) 2-3 Biovores (Spore mines can capture objectives) 2 (x10) Gargoyles Excorines Haruspex's Raveners Tyrannofex (maybe) Venomthropes The scythed Hierodule is cool, it's definitely the strongest of our forgeworld stuff, still overcosted for what it does. I would be hesitant to call this profiled one a 'strong' list though, don't want to lead people astray, this would get bodied by any decently meta lists right now.

[@Bear_Andersen]

What do you have the raveners in there for? What do they offer in particular?

[@InVerum]

@@Bear_Andersen Great flexible movement piece that punch above their weight class. Solid rapid ingress target as well. Move in, delete a flank unit, and either hold a objective somewhat cheaply, or take them out again into reserves for a re-deploy. Because it happens at the end of your opponents turn it gives really decent flexibility.

[@jamiew2574]

Awesome video, extremely helpful.

[@tomhiggart]

Master annihilator on the datasmith gives the kastalan robots in his unit sustained hits 1 on all their guns

[@dtheraider4336]

Issue is they are double fist and flamer robots, so he actually makes no ranged hit rolls

[@tomhiggart]

@@dtheraider4336 yeah I have no idea what made him think 3 extra ingonres cover twin linked d2 guns per model where better than twin linked on the fists, not a worthy trade in my eyes. But if he were cooking with fine ingredients he would of realised that a 6 man breacher squads with an enginseer and a servitor squad ( servitors give the squad +1 ws and bs) would be doing big damage with the master annihilator

[@MrSTEEZYsam]

Where do you get all these lists? Is there one site that has them all or do you check tournaments individually? Sorry if this is an obvious question.

[@grandpappy1195]

Thank you for the content

[@joshuarussell1499]

I got given 11 predators a drop pod , a venerable dreadnought and a 10 man tactical squad. Would this be useful for my black templars

[@gregoryshinn9805]

Thanks for the video

[@RecklessFables]

As an Imperial Guard player, that list feels incredibly flavorless. I'm not being judgy about the purpose of a tournament list (which is to win, not roleplay ) but holy crap I couldn't bring myself the field that.

[@cjwoulard]

Good stuff Auspex

[@callumlogan4874]

Happy to see a csm list although i'd personally ditch the demons and legonaries for a big 10 man termie brick other then that think the guys list was great.

[@Bearrascus]

I'm surprised about the redemptor dreads. In the unit tier video but also here they still seem to be good. As soon as the points came out, I thought I will never put it on the tabletop again, whilst it was my favourite in 9th. I'd rather use a Repulsor Executioner for these points! Do I miss something?

[@marv6921]

where can I get a chaplain in terminator armour or do I have to mix units?

[@jlaertztu_2276]

Where can I take a look to the bests lists in v10 tournaments ? Idk where i can see tournaments’ results

[@SpencaD]

No thoughts for a Salamander list? They lost there named Dreadnought

[@MrHoneuma]

I can't find the actual list from the World Eater's player, but it feels like a mistake for the berzerkers to only have 2 plasma pistols unless the champion wasn't counted, since they can have a total of 3 in a squad of 10. On that note, it almost feels worth it to run them in squads of 5 over squads of 10. With the same 10 models split up, you can have an extra plasma pistol and icon of Khorne, so 4 plasmas, 2 eviscerators, and 2 icons of Khorne. Only real reason I see to do it as 10 is more bodyguards for the Masters of Execution.

[@dangastgamez6508]

For the chaos space army list. You may only have one epic hero. Not abbadon or fabius bile, is this richt?

[@nahuelleandroarroyo]

How nice of the DA list to use so much of old kits! deathwing and scouts as the backbone

[@primeknight4274]

Sadly his command sqaud loadout was illegal since you can’t use cyclones on TH & shields anymore

[@Oncomancer]

The problem with Necrons is that there is no incentive to take anything other than infantry blobs. Lethal hits does more damage with a Plasmancer than just about anything else in the army, and they won't get blown off the board before they're in range, unlike the destroyers

[@Panthers_Eldritch_Horror]

Which imo is a shame cause I'd love to see a destroyer cult army. Reckon the heavy destroyers with the emnitic exterminator weapon profiles could do some serious damage

[@joep3545]

This video is really cool, is the blood angels list missing anything? i did the points out and it seems it's only 1810 points. Maybe i missed a unit? 1 Dante, 1 lemartes, 1 primaris apothecary, 2 sang priests with jump packs, 2 x10 assualt squad, 1 baal pred, 1 x10 DC w Jump Pack, 1 x10 deso squad, 1 x3 eradicator squad, 1 x 5 incursor squad

[@ericgoodwin3971]

Thanks for the hard work auspex. Thanks for taking the time to show everyone's armies Calling a 3-2 finish and 19th out of 42 Strong is a stretch, but you did say it was the best you could find

[@razielmasta]

One strong army for Death Guard is any other army

[@D00M3R-SK8]

Have they Updated the Vespid Stingwings yet? If not, wonder if there are any nice, 3rd party versions out there? I have fancies doing a Tau army for a few years now, but have been waiting for them to update the auxiliaries first. It's taking forever though.

[@marcopolo9549]

Has anybody else heard the rumour that the Aeldari player who is listen in this video, was disqualified for using weighted dice?

[@biguschungus3989]

Yeah lol, after he got caught he tried flushing them in a toilet on his way out 😂

[@GrandAdmThrawn]

@@biguschungus3989 WHAT?? No way.

[@seanalonzo9244]

According to the 2nd place DG player it was a different eldar player.

[@dmeep]

All the factions i own with none of the models i have painted built or even in my pile of potential

[@Thor8151990]

Having played about 30 games with them I can say that admech list looks atrocious, I have to wonder what matchups or shenanigans happened to score him those wins

[@Thor8151990]

To update, I tracked it down and they misplayed the rules pretty heavily plus he just got lucky apparently. For anyone curious you do have good options in the admech index, they're just very limited. Both flavors of kataphrons favoring destroyers w/manipulus, electro priests w/dominus inside dunerider, cawl and a dunecrawler or two. Unfortunately that's about it, anything else is going to be unoptimal or just plain bad (kastelans, anything that requires battle line because both your options are awful) The marshall is a great leader its a shame he has nothing to attach to

[@DecrontheWarrior]

Missed 2 units from the aeldari list again - +5 rangers and another d cannon

[@Amdor]

I feel like admech brother missed out "ranged" in master annihilator wording

[@WonkyView]

Incredible output

[@Smilomaniac]

"3 redemptor dreadnoughts" ....but why?

[@The80sWolf_]

How would an death corp krieg only army look like? I guess I would have to customize other troops?

[@Terry80801]

Is the paint rule still in 10th edition

[@Shadowbow1000]

You know the Votann are weak when the strongest list you can find is only 3-2 🤣

[@haraldbredsdorff2699]

@TheMarcosvolta No, they are bad. I have no idea, why nobody is willing to admit it. They currently have the aim of imperial guards, the speed of death guard and the price is sisters of battle. And the only way to use the army mechanic, is to sacrifice your elite units. And then you have no army left to use. The only "strength" of the army is high toughness, that does not matter in a edition where all armies have access to anti infantry and leathal weapons. But every time somebody points this out, one of you diguises comes out saying "they are not really bad, you just do not know how to play them yet or do not have the modells". Try playing them. Every squat fan, who wanted to play them since day 1, first got hit with the ban hammer, then the nerf hammer. And now an additional nerf hammer, that made them weaker than the Admec and Death guard everybody is complaining about. The reason so few people are willing to play them, is because it is so hard to win with them.

[@elpokitolama]

The admech list is still a weird one to admech players, especially as the tournament was plagued by mishaps...

[@danielholladay4796]

I agree with the list performing well being odd, but what happened with the tournament?

[@Aderynism]

@@danielholladay4796 all top players resigned last few days because of mismanagement and the opponents that played against that list didn't know the kastelans was infantry so they played it like if it wasn't.

[@danielholladay4796]

@@Aderynism Interesting to know. Nothing against the admech player because it’s a new army and new edition. But I feel it’s likely they probably misplayed the master annihilator upgrade as well. Gave it to one of the datasmiths that can only be attached to bots, and the bots had flamers and fists and the enhancement is for sustained hits 1 for range attacks which does nothing for them, I imagine he misread and applied the sustained hits to their fists, otherwise, why else would he have that upgrade? Another thing I wonder is could he have misplayed the 4+++ and applied it to the bots as well? When I first read the the rule I thought it applied to the whole unit and not just the datasmith. I could be totally wrong, but would be an easy explanation for why such an odd list did really well. And if I’m wrongly being skeptical of the player, I apologize and congrats to them on the 4-1.

[@dtheraider4336]

The bots bring a decent statline of tankiness, T9, 7w, 2+save an invuln, and a 6+ damage reflect. I could see them doing some work. The enginseer can also awaken/repair 1 vehicle MODEL. So I could see the 4+ invuln added to the skorpius and a kastelan to improve their survivability. That would give the double squad of 4 a chance for pulling serious objective holding weight. I still feel though that the infantry keyword would still be a huge set back, and the fact that the enhancement taken would be useless if they are all double fist flamer bots tells me there had to be some misconceptions about the rules. For instance I could see the enginseer 4++ being given to the entire unit. I want to assign some of the blame on the player, but tbh 10th for admech have been penalizing in the worst of ways. But I will hold out on the fact that I wasn't there and I would need to see the games in action to understand how it went

[@Aderynism]

@@dtheraider4336 Technicly anti-character weapons works too since the datasmith has character keyword. In any case, you want to try buff them round 1, and then the first wounds you take will be on the datasmith to get out of the keywords xD

[@PeterSimpson666]

Where are the 10th Edition rules and points for the Barbed/Scythed Hierodule?