Ultramarines vs Mechanicus. Vanguard Tactics vs Play On. Warhammer 40k in 40m

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Stephen Box from Vanguard Tactics is presented an interesting challenge. Using Play On Tabletop's collection he creates both the Ultramarines list he plays as well as the Adeptus Mechanicus list that Tak plays. Both lists bring the heat! Neither player got to practice with these lists and after a quick coffee and looking through the data sheets they hit the battlefield.
How will the Adeptus Mechanicus fair in early 10th edition? What does a non-Tak Ultramarines list look like? What happens when a Stephen Box uses a Stevemarine? This and more in this 40k in 40m.
LISTS
ULTRAMARINES
Calgar with Victrix Guard attached to Bladeguard Veteran Squad (6 models)
Apothecary Biologus attached to Eradicator Squad (6 models)
Captain Sicarius (Stevemarine) attached to Sternguard Veterans (10 models)
Captain on Bike attached to Outrider Squad (6 models) w/ Invader ATV
Aggressors with Flamestorm Gauntlet (6 models)
Repulsor
Repulsor
ADEPTUS MECHANICUS
Belisarius Cawl
Techpriest Enginseer
Techpriest Dominus attached to Destroyers (6 models)
Techpriest Manipulus attached to Breachers (6 models)
Cybernetica Datasmith attached to Kastelan Robots (2 models)
Skitarii Rangers (10 models)
Onager Dunecrawler
Skorpius Disintegrator
Skorpius Disintegrator
Sydonian Dragoons (2 models)
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@VanguardTactics
@VanguardTactics Жыл бұрын
This was awesome to be part of and thank you so much Play on and Tak for an amazing game. It was hilarious filming this and can’t wait until next time.
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this collaboration possible.
@rubyayoko8536
@rubyayoko8536 Жыл бұрын
Love these colabs
@Tropicoboy
@Tropicoboy Жыл бұрын
I sorry that the Steven/Stephen curse touched your dice 😅 Well played
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
Me too!@@rubyayoko8536
@brothertobias
@brothertobias Жыл бұрын
Don't break yourself over the Scout move, I accidentally cheated exactly the same way in my first game by putting Incursors into a Repulsor Executioner.
@therajman1985
@therajman1985 Жыл бұрын
What I absolutely love about this match is the pure sportsmanship and camaraderie that both Tak and Stephen bring to the table - you can feel the respect each has for their opponent in every dice roll! I have huge appreciation for both Vanguard Tactics and Play On for what they do for the hobby, I got into 40k because of Play On's Intro to 9th edition video, and watching high-skill, high-sportsmanship games like this keeps me motivated and enthused even when my Death Guard are being shot to pieces by pesky space eleves...😂 Thanks both!
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Very much appreciate that you like what we are putting down. There is something special about a game that flies someone across an ocean to play across a table from you. You want to roll dice, have fun, and enjoy that time together. Stephen Box was an amazing guest and we definitely enjoyed his time in the studio.
@BlackMethos
@BlackMethos Жыл бұрын
This is pretty much what I love about this channel and the people in a nutshell. Fun games, fun and joking banter and *sportsmanship*. Having fun is so much more important to these guys than winning and it makes the games so much better.
@TheGamingWard
@TheGamingWard Жыл бұрын
100% agree here. Finally pulled the trigger and bought the Infernus Marine 3 pack with paint after watching their how-to for 10th. These guys and Live and Let's Dice are always so positive and welcoming and are instrumental in getting me into 40k
@kitoushi66
@kitoushi66 Жыл бұрын
This was super fun to watch. Stephen’s high level play left me on the edge of my seat. If a few rolls went his way this game would have been very different. I love you’re batreps play on. Keep the sweet videos coming.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Lots of good learning moments from Stephen in this one. He did great to grab points every turn.
@tarkatantapir7287
@tarkatantapir7287 Жыл бұрын
To think all this started because the Ultramarines got their hands on a Toaster oven that makes the perfect blueberry muffins, can't have anything around the Mechanicus
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
The Mechanicus want all the nice things for themselves
@mouthyschannel2474
@mouthyschannel2474 Жыл бұрын
Tech must have put that air fryer out in the middle of the board...
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын
Ultramarine plugs Toaster in. Toaster: ''Ahahaha! I am online once again! Tremble, world, before my heating coil of doom!'' ;p
@shadowmancy9183
@shadowmancy9183 Жыл бұрын
I've been tempted to get Ceylon heads 3D printed for a Necron list, specifically so I can bring AdMech their Toasters.
@pixelpeek9963
@pixelpeek9963 Жыл бұрын
Best bit is the sudden inclusion of the hats with nothing being said 😆
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
What hats?
@MJWhitto
@MJWhitto Жыл бұрын
Man Steven really pulled it out of the bag to reach round 5 that man knows his tactics 👍 awful awful rolling 😂
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
He played incredibly well and it was great to learn from him.
@novemberreigns
@novemberreigns Жыл бұрын
The sportsmanship of this match is heartwarming and the banter is gut warming, in that I was chuckling a lot. Absolutely the kinda content we should be seeing well done guys!
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
This was a highlight game for us too. We got to learn and laugh at the same time.
@varggaming6449
@varggaming6449 Жыл бұрын
That was the most entertaining game yet! The sportsmanship of Stephen while playing with Steve's dice!
@grumpycup4762
@grumpycup4762 Жыл бұрын
youtube warham games are always drawn out and boring. It's a lot of shuffling around, throwing dice, comparing results etc. This format is GREAT. It's fast, snappy, skips a lot of the "dead" time. Unlike almost every other channel, this was actually really engaging! AND an Admech win???? I'm astounded!
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
We do think we have created a format that is entertaining. Glad you like it. There are different formats for different tastes and there is a lot of great personalities out there in the KZbin world and we enjoy the little niche we have carved for ourselves here.
@klassensj2
@klassensj2 Жыл бұрын
Admech won partially due to super hot rolls by Tak, but also a little of the "uh no, you cannot do that" new rules syndrome.
@kieran2221
@kieran2221 Жыл бұрын
That was sooooo close. I thought it was done by turn 3, but Stephen kept the game going when he could have legitimately thrown in the towel. A great game and a great model of sportsmanship!
@thewovenmantis6813
@thewovenmantis6813 Жыл бұрын
21:43 Tak: “So I’m going to do the-“ Stephen: 🥸
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Strange what you find lying around a KZbin studio.
@aurokin
@aurokin Жыл бұрын
Simply the BEST 40k content channel on the internet.
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 9 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@ASingleChimera
@ASingleChimera Жыл бұрын
I have never seen so many ones rolled in a single game, holy cow. I could feel the frustration through the screen by the end, really feel for VT. Excellent sportsmanship regardless, great game!
@nicoleandscottnelson3933
@nicoleandscottnelson3933 Жыл бұрын
Stephen should just go ahead and be part of PlayOn
@VanguardTactics
@VanguardTactics Жыл бұрын
Agreed haha
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
@VanguardTactics wait? Really?
@christiangruening352
@christiangruening352 Жыл бұрын
Vanguard on Tabletop??
@InquisitorEx
@InquisitorEx Жыл бұрын
Vanguard on Tabletop needs to be a thing now
@Gogies777
@Gogies777 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayOnTabletop make it happen ,let's go!
@TeaAndTunes
@TeaAndTunes Жыл бұрын
The moustache moment really caught me 😂 top class game all round, excellent work!
@fendelphi
@fendelphi Жыл бұрын
Passive distractions are a tactic after all. :)
@SteveMartinable
@SteveMartinable Жыл бұрын
This is great for a new player to listen to the tactical talk on decisions and get into the heads of more experienced players. Especially with my first escalation tournament coming up!
@mawindy52
@mawindy52 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if y’all have done this or not but what if the two opponents build the others army that way when the battle starts they have to quickly see what they have and have to make it all work together.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea and would be fun to do in the future
@lionman8295
@lionman8295 Жыл бұрын
You could make that a series of you don’t have any better ideas
@KingWalter5419
@KingWalter5419 Жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see the new episode be Ad Mech
@Poseidons_Son
@Poseidons_Son Жыл бұрын
You guys should do a battle between Miniwargamer Dave (Chaos space marines) and Steve (Blood angels) on who has the correct usage of blood, sacrifice or consumption.
@trevorduncan9580
@trevorduncan9580 7 ай бұрын
love the sportsmanship shown in these matches. It seems like everyone just loves to play and enjoys the stories told on the tabletop. That is exactly how it should be. Love the energy.
@v8Buster87
@v8Buster87 Жыл бұрын
What great sportsmanship, what a good game. The dice roll gods are against this dude from the very start.
@codyott1982
@codyott1982 Жыл бұрын
Took me too long to get around to this video. That being said, when Steve gives tak some pointers, and jt says something about it, then says it's the best way to play, I couldn't agree more. There is very little better things on this earth than when you're playing a superior player, or more experienced, or whatever, and they start teaching you tips and tricks to improve. It's amazing. The other week I was playing a competitive team player. I hadn't played since 5th edition and just got back in. He played tsons vs my blood angels. Yea, sure he won. But once he realized how much better and more experienced he was, he started giving me tactical advice. I learned so much. Neither of us lost. He won the game, but I learned more. It was great.
@SmashingSnow
@SmashingSnow Жыл бұрын
Yes finally the Admech are here. I hope to see them more they looked amazed.
@guardlet4196
@guardlet4196 Жыл бұрын
Amazing match, but one thing I want to point out is that at the 30:00 mark when Tak should not have been able to overwatch against Calgar and his unit. the stratagem says it can be used when an enemy unit starts or ends a charge move within 24" of a friendly unit that is eligible to shoot as if it were its shooting phase. It does not say you can use it on declaration of a charge, the enemy unit must roll to charge and succeed so that it can then start its charge move. It's a new edition stuff happens as we saw and was explained at the beginning of the batrep with Stephen scout moving his Repulsor. Not trying to be mean just wanted to point out something i saw. Love you guys and your content, keep it up.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Another person commented about "charge rolls" versus "charge move" and brought up really good points as you have here about when "Fire Overwatch" occurs. I appreciate everyone who is helping us be better at the game and understand the rules. We have a very interesting interaction here. In terms of sequencing, we could have declared the charge and done the charge roll first and he could have rolled his 3" (with engagement range 4") and that would have been deemed successful and thus it would be okay to do the Overwatch. However, then, due to hazardous I lose a model and thus the 4" is not sufficient to end the charge move. But this happens after the "charge roll" which essentially means, yes, he could have started the "charge move". But then can he still move? In Horus Heresy it clearly states you can move if a charge is failed. In 40k it doesn't seem to say you can, but it doesn't say you can't. How would you play this? Inquisitive minds want to know.
@Timelost_Techpriest
@Timelost_Techpriest Жыл бұрын
Man, that was kind of a nailbiter. Love y'all's videos.
@TheJumperReject
@TheJumperReject Жыл бұрын
The most Steve-touched rolls I've seen in a while.
@Koby19841
@Koby19841 Жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that the Calgar side of the table might have been a bit closer without the 4+ FnP on the robots, but great game. 40k in 40mins is probably the best form of 40K replay. Must be a pain to cull down all the footage to get the end result.
@chopsworth3833
@chopsworth3833 Жыл бұрын
That was the sassiest "Onto the tank." I've ever heard.
@zeiphie
@zeiphie Жыл бұрын
Stephen is such a class act, love to see him on this channel some more if/when the opportunity arises~! Great match to both the players definitely one to re-watch as there's just a bevy of tips and tricks shown off here. I guess leave it to Vanguard Tactics to show off their tactical acumen with such good sportsmanship to boot!
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 9 ай бұрын
He is such a nice guy!
@TheRealblinkjfg
@TheRealblinkjfg Жыл бұрын
And they say England doesn’t have guns… Stephen clearly brought two with him.
@crawbag0311
@crawbag0311 Жыл бұрын
I love the collabs happening for 10th! This one being tops!
@mojo255
@mojo255 Жыл бұрын
Tak seemed to have more fun that time around. The slower playstyle allowing a little more relax and banter time I think. GG both, massively enjoyed
@Grimangell135
@Grimangell135 Жыл бұрын
That sass on the Steve Marine though.....Oh my god I felt that. lol. Fantastic match.
@gergerflarg
@gergerflarg Жыл бұрын
This entire episode just made me want a "from 0s to heroes" episode. Like the guys take the worst units of an army and try to strategize a way to use them in unique and meaningful ways
@goblinslayer5517
@goblinslayer5517 Жыл бұрын
This channel is always a joy to watch.
@MonkeyTechPriest
@MonkeyTechPriest Жыл бұрын
Would really like to see another super game 2v2 6000 points crazy game. I thought the multiple layers to the table was really interesting!
@dr.awesome3582
@dr.awesome3582 Жыл бұрын
Stephens mustache and Taks look at it just killed me 😂
@galenlovejoy9316
@galenlovejoy9316 Жыл бұрын
It was nice to see the admech perform well!
@vicio19995
@vicio19995 Жыл бұрын
Well, it seems like the Admech players cheated by misunderstanding some rules it seems, some passives and buffs should not apply to some units. Honest mistakes , but that is one of the reasons.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
There certainly was no intention to cheat but yes some rules were done incorrectly. The Kastellan Robots do not have faction: doctrina imperatives, and do not have a Feel No Pain 4+ though luckily for the game itself the Robots died Turn One. The Overwatch issue is something both us and Vanguard Tactics are looking to get clarified with the powers that be. We obviously do want to have as clean a game as possible and be as accurate as possible.
@vicio19995
@vicio19995 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayOnTabletop ofc, it was obviusly a honest unintentional mistake, was a great game i play ad mech, but the Space marine player was Superb, great plays
@matthewnichol73
@matthewnichol73 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone has said it but the graphics to visualise what buffs are being put on what unit and by whom are so helpful, sometimes the play is so fast and it can be hard to keep up when it’s an army that isn’t mine!
@HUJIKOQuackGiant
@HUJIKOQuackGiant Жыл бұрын
have to say this is one of the best showing ive seen of warhammer 40k. Amazing sportsmanship , very entertaining , educative , and made me laugh and stayed on the edge of my seat amazing .
@hunterbooth9554
@hunterbooth9554 Жыл бұрын
this was one of my favoured battle report to watch with the amazing sportsmanship and tactics. Plus wow Dice tell Stories.
@XerrolAvengerII
@XerrolAvengerII 4 ай бұрын
the editing and commentary for this was phenomenal! putting official gw content to shame!
@hufferou812
@hufferou812 Жыл бұрын
Great game as always. I love it at 15:13, a face only a Brit could make.
@Bonesawisready926
@Bonesawisready926 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell if he was legitimately upset or playing into the joke. But I laughed.
@hufferou812
@hufferou812 Жыл бұрын
@@Bonesawisready926 Either way it was great. I got a good laugh too.
@NameName2.0
@NameName2.0 Жыл бұрын
Stephen is just FUN, I like this guy! Great sport too!
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
We like him too
@VanguardTactics
@VanguardTactics Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much
@danielgehrhardt112
@danielgehrhardt112 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see Custodes. Thanks for considering!
@austinbeale4372
@austinbeale4372 7 ай бұрын
I am really fond of Stephen from vanguard. Great job inviting him over!
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop 7 ай бұрын
And we are inviting him again!
@bmontgomery2378
@bmontgomery2378 Жыл бұрын
The robots dont get the doctrina buff, since they advanced they shouldnt have shot turn 1. That being said, so happy to see ad mech on the table 😊
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
You are right! I did miss that! Sorry! They don't have Faction: Doctrina Imperatives. Even the Servitors have it so I thought it was army wide but I was wrong.
@bmontgomery2378
@bmontgomery2378 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayOnTabletop good Ole 2/3rds army rule striking again :)
@HeroesBosses
@HeroesBosses Жыл бұрын
​@@PlayOnTabletopIt should be army wide! Why does GW not live robots like they should?? 😅
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
LOL. I thought we finally got passed the distinctions between Cult Mechanicus and Skitarii but on further review I found at least two datasheets that do not have faction: doctrina imperatives. I can only assume it is on purpose but it strikes me as strange as even servitors have the faction ability. If it is not on purpose someone needs to let someone know. Okay so it looks like all Cult Mechanicus units EXCEPT the Kataphrons don't have the faction ability. Geebus. That changes things for future builds
@Immortal-ironic-fist
@Immortal-ironic-fist Жыл бұрын
​@@PlayOnTabletopI thought the cybernetic datasmith gives then doctrina?
@BakerOrDie123
@BakerOrDie123 Жыл бұрын
Stephen and Tak look like extras in a Killers music video with the hats and staches lmao.
@tiefighterscreech5558
@tiefighterscreech5558 Жыл бұрын
man your guys videos are the best.
@viklore8091
@viklore8091 Жыл бұрын
That was a shocking battle report, it was amazing to see how much sportsmanship radiated from Vanguard tactics!
@deathwind666
@deathwind666 Жыл бұрын
So I'm going to do thee...... omg I died there lmao
@MikeSpicyWinner
@MikeSpicyWinner Жыл бұрын
Man this episode was like watching Tombstone. Good stuff!
@rafindeed
@rafindeed Жыл бұрын
holy shit, that was a great game. What a back and forth
@garrettfamilyaquatics6704
@garrettfamilyaquatics6704 Жыл бұрын
The people want to see the voice of play on, JT play the mighty DRUKHARI!
@axhen
@axhen Жыл бұрын
the emperor had nothing on the Omnissiah for this game
@toportime
@toportime Жыл бұрын
That was an awesome matchup... came down to the very end... The dice were for sure telling stories in this battle!
@Robotech2049
@Robotech2049 9 ай бұрын
4 months late…I love how they put on mustaches and hats, ha ha ha! I’m dying! Love this!
@MommaBird_
@MommaBird_ Жыл бұрын
I was painting guardsmen while I was watching/listening, and when I looked back up at the game the hats and mustaches made me double take
@dragonsgreedgaming3500
@dragonsgreedgaming3500 Жыл бұрын
Definitely have Stephen back! He was a real pleasure to watch. Great sportsmanship and he seems to have an excellent knowledge of the game. The moustache was a nice touch as well.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
He is welcome anytime
@chrisg3726
@chrisg3726 Жыл бұрын
What a great game! And those armies are beautifully painted!!
@get2burning
@get2burning Жыл бұрын
love seeing Steven Box on Play On! Such a great competitor and great sportsmanship.
@upwardgaming1493
@upwardgaming1493 Жыл бұрын
Such an awesome game loved it. One thing that I'd love to see is the guard with all cavalry led by lord solar himself vs who knows what.
@LeGuardImperialis
@LeGuardImperialis Жыл бұрын
Tonoite on POT gear Stephen plays the upside down toilet symbol space marines Tak takes his necron/mechanicus fanservice a bit too far And Steve becomes fan-favorite punching bag, Cato Sicarius
@mattbentley2449
@mattbentley2449 Жыл бұрын
one of the best playon games of tenth! I love tactical play, so, so much. keep this high level gaming coming pls
@patrickdavis8271
@patrickdavis8271 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Game! Love these competitive lists! Definitely need Steven in more games! Well done Play On!
@23tovarm5
@23tovarm5 Жыл бұрын
Round one, machine spirit STRONG with Admech
@BrokenKrayon
@BrokenKrayon Жыл бұрын
Little known fact, Stephen is also beloved children's TV character Basil Brush
@narceron360
@narceron360 Жыл бұрын
Another victim of the orange dice. Hard fought, though.
@David13579
@David13579 8 ай бұрын
21:42 “oh here’s something interesting” Indeed 😂😂 Omg 😂 22:41
@TheWolfDude91
@TheWolfDude91 Жыл бұрын
Im still learning the rules, but this was the most intense battle rep so far, for me at least.
@Swordsmansmith87
@Swordsmansmith87 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That's impressive for admech. First battle report I've sent where someone got tabled.
@Haroith
@Haroith Жыл бұрын
PlayOnTebletop are the best! They made what seemed impossible: they made miniatures wargames reports thrilling like sports matches! Even players dress up like professional sportsmen! That's fabulous, miraculous, awesome!
@antongrigoryev6381
@antongrigoryev6381 Жыл бұрын
30:10 In 10th, you Overwatch not when the Charge is declared (like it was in 9th), but when a unit starts or ends a Charge move. So you first roll for Charge, see if it's successful, and if it is, then the opponent can Overwatch. And even if the Overwatch makes the distance too long for the Charging unit to end within Engagement Range, it still can make the move and then fight (covering the needed distance with pile-in).
@pepi560
@pepi560 Жыл бұрын
Is this really true? Can you explain which rules interaction allows you to end outside of combat range and then pile in?
@antongrigoryev6381
@antongrigoryev6381 Жыл бұрын
@@pepi560 It's because at that point, the Charge roll was already made and deemed successful. Overwatch specifically says it's used when a unit starts or ends Charge Move. The unit already begins to move, and *that's* when Overwatch happens - so the unit can continue to move after Overwatch was done. And it can fight because it has made a Charge Move - any units that made a Charge move can fight as per Fight Phase rules, even if there are no enemies in Engagement Range - and pile-in is a part of the Fight.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
The issue is with bullet 2 of the table on page 29 of the core rule book. "If the distance rolled is insufficient to move within Engagement Range ... the charge fails". Remember that pile in moves are in the "fight phase" not the charge phase so they cannot be added to the distance to determine success in the "charge phase". This is irrespective of a model that may have been there when the charge is declared because when the charging unit goes to move if that model is no longer there, so is it's engagement range. Thus, the charge is failed.
@antongrigoryev6381
@antongrigoryev6381 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayOnTabletop Bullet points are shortened for quick referense, but they shouldn't be used for deciding on such specific interactions like this one. From the rules proper: "If any of these conditions cannot be met, the charge fails and no models in the charging unit move this phase. _Otherwise,_ the charge is successful and the models in the charging unit _make a Charge move_ " It's all about the sequencing. You first check if the Charge is sucessful. You roll and see the result if it's enough - if it is, you can move. _After_ this, after the models were already allowed to move, the opponent gets to Overwatch. As for the move itself, the only things written about it are: "move each model a distance in inches up to the result of the Charge roll. When doing so, each model in the charging unit must end its Charge move closer to one of the units selected as a target of its charge." Nothing in the description of the move itself says that you can't do it if you can't reach Engagement Range - it's only stated in the description of the roll that allows that move, but that step has already passed. Again. Overwatch is done when a unit _starts a move_ . And if a unit already started the move, it can finish it, no pre-conditions matter. If Overwatch could make it so the target unit doesn't get to move, it would mean that Overwatch shouldn't have been possible as the target unit doesn't move.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. You are right that there is a distinction between the "Charge Roll" used to determine success and then the "Charge Move" which is the actual move. So during the Charge Roll step the condition is met. Then at the "start" of the Charge Move "Fire Overwatch" happens. But, which is the very interesting point you bring up - the "Charge Roll" has already determined success. In Horus Heresy there is very clear writing that you still move after a charge is failed but in 40k it doesn't state verbatim that you can move even if the condition is not met, but it doesn't say you cannot move either. I would be fascinated to hear what the rules writers think or intended here. I have not come across your interpretation of this before and I can now clearly see how you came to it. We have not played it as such before. Thank you for clearly noting all of this and I think we will be having an interesting conversation ahead.
@Lucat27
@Lucat27 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Really hoping one of these videos, Tak's marines will bring a giant ship to transport a dreadnought into battle, just because I find that really cool for some reason.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
I just need to get my hands on "the one"
@Jasha127
@Jasha127 Жыл бұрын
You guys might wanna salt test those dice and potentially buy a new set of orange ones 😂. That was painful to watch.
@DMHightower
@DMHightower Жыл бұрын
Stephen Box is THE MAN! Hes very classy keeping his cool and helping Tak defeat him. Stephen never let up with his determination to keep fighting and grabbing points, despite his dice rolls going against him!! Well played, Tak!
@jimbusher5895
@jimbusher5895 Жыл бұрын
Great Game. One I know I will watch again
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you liked it that much
@celluswinnex
@celluswinnex Жыл бұрын
most fun video to date without question! And the Ad Mechs won!!! Go 10th gen!
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another awesome battle report!
@darrisbrown7516
@darrisbrown7516 Жыл бұрын
Well done Tac awesome work 👏 👍 😀
@thoralfb7829
@thoralfb7829 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely awesome to watch! I would love to see more of spacewolfes though ;)
@danielwhite7297
@danielwhite7297 Жыл бұрын
Quality game, lot of fun to watch! Loved it
@gryffindoescardboard
@gryffindoescardboard Жыл бұрын
This video looks awesome
@alkalineatheris6171
@alkalineatheris6171 Жыл бұрын
Man I wanted to be a black templar. I look forward to more 40k content. Stoked for this game.
@robotmage
@robotmage Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed watching this game, great job!
@shassa90
@shassa90 Жыл бұрын
Such a great match. Amazing match with the skill, sportsmanship, and love of the game. Can't wait to see more of their matches.
@scottcrompton6931
@scottcrompton6931 Жыл бұрын
Exciting game, fellas! 👏
@AllThingsCubey
@AllThingsCubey Жыл бұрын
Shame about the rules errors, but another one for the robots: When Tak made 6s to save, he failed to rebound mortals onto the enemy that shot. It's not just invulns in 10th, but any save of 6+ made by the robots against shooting.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
2nd game with the Ad Mech and still shaking out the 9th edition rules and trying to input the 10th edition rules. Thank you for the catch!
@AllThingsCubey
@AllThingsCubey Жыл бұрын
@@PlayOnTabletop The 4+ FNPs on the Robots didn't actually change the outcome in any way, if you consider movement and score, so I wouldn't feel too bad about that slip up. I want your dice for my Admech though... Jeez, nerf to BS4+ don't matter if you roll that many 4-ups...
@pepi560
@pepi560 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Fun to see the underdog winning but tak really needs to stop winning all the time
@stuartfields9177
@stuartfields9177 Жыл бұрын
Dedicated transports only get a scout move if the unit embarked in them has 'Scout..x" yes? Fun battle but those rolls, ouch.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Yes, if it is indeed a dedicated transport then if the unit in it has "scout" then the transport with the embarked unit inside can scout.
@magusd123
@magusd123 Жыл бұрын
steven once said you don’t loose games to dice rolls. I think this kinda disproves that
@VanguardTactics
@VanguardTactics Жыл бұрын
Even I can be wrong haha and I’m sure I had some mistakes somewhere we could have changed the result.
@magusd123
@magusd123 Жыл бұрын
@@VanguardTactics fair nuff. lady luck can be fickle at those critical moments
@JacintoDeSousa-bq2wp
@JacintoDeSousa-bq2wp Жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying these! Great armies! Great players! MORE!
@F0RS00TH
@F0RS00TH Жыл бұрын
I actually love that one of the first things that happens between 2 expert players is a mistake. This game is unreasonably complex, so mistakes WILL happen. Constantly. The only CORRECT way to play any tabletop game is to do the best you can to maximize the fun for both players.
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
Glad you feel that way. It is a complex game and no one was being malicious in their interpretation or misinterpretation of a rule. Like you said, it just happens with how complex the game gets when it is beyond the basic core rules. It is fun to learn and take the game to the next level however it is just as important to give graces when a mistake is made.
@Aderynism
@Aderynism Жыл бұрын
Good game! Looking forward to more ad mech games! :)
@raho19
@raho19 Жыл бұрын
I loved this. But for the love of the one on the throne and the omnissiah put some nuln oil on those orange dice.
@mirkocoller6828
@mirkocoller6828 6 ай бұрын
The hat and the mustache are killng my 😂tanks guys
@andrewbakescakes9684
@andrewbakescakes9684 Жыл бұрын
AdMech pull it off! Great game! Rare to see the toaster boys pull out a win this edition.
@Sauly47
@Sauly47 Жыл бұрын
You can have the best list in the world, but if you keep rolling 1’s, means squat! Haha, made me feel better about my own bad rolls! 😂
@PlayOnTabletop
@PlayOnTabletop Жыл бұрын
We have all had those games where the dice go sideways. Stephen scored great regardless and I think we all had fun at the table.
@Sauly47
@Sauly47 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayOnTabletop Bad rolls are part of the enjoyment!
@Nodde1991
@Nodde1991 Жыл бұрын
35:38 F n' A Cotton! Great reference
@jtmcdowell2331
@jtmcdowell2331 Жыл бұрын
Right?
@Nodde1991
@Nodde1991 Жыл бұрын
@@jtmcdowell2331 delivery was impeccable too! 👏
@paddybryans6883
@paddybryans6883 Жыл бұрын
Great game and good to see an opponent winning vs Oath of Moment to show it’s not totally broken.
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