One THROW One KILL: FACT Or MYTH? (Ballistic Gel Test)

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Adam Celadin

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@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
One THROW One KILL: FACT Or MYTH?
@TheRealRomansThirteen
@TheRealRomansThirteen 8 ай бұрын
Fact. I don't know if that's called the rondal dagger but I do know the taper of that point is meant straight up to penetrate the ribs and go into the organs I also know that a lot of those old school medieval daggers didn't have an edge they just came to a very sharp point for that reason. The way that you sink blades in dude especially with your no spin throw absolutely lethal 110%.
@lk-ip1xs
@lk-ip1xs 8 ай бұрын
​​@@TheRealRomansThirteenNot really. It's speed multiplied by weight which equals force. If you stab someone, you ideally have a large part of your body weight behind the stab. However, if you throw the knife, you might have the same speed, but there is quite a lot of weight missing, since now its only the weight of the knife in the equation and not your bodyweight. No knife that you throw will penetrate through a rib. It might slide through between the ribs, but it wont penetrate through bone itself. Same goes for the skull. The temple and the eye socket, those are the points that a throwing knife could punch through. All the other parts of the skull, no chance. You need a force of 2000pa per square millimeter to penetrate the skull. I ran the calculations, even if the point was only one tenth of a square millimeter thick, and we assume, that the blade does not widen (which is impossible, because then it would be a needle), a 200g throwing knife thrown at 100km/h (which is VERY fast, since you dont throw a throwing knife like you would a baseball) would still produce way to low amount of force to penetrate or crack the skull. It would leave quite a mark on the bone, but it wouldnt penetrate through. We can make the blade heavier, but that wont really make a difference, because then you wont throw as fast, so it equals out. So no, its nowhere near as lethal as video games or movies suggest. Its quite hard to land a hit in a way, that instantly kills someone. Serious injurys which can lead to death if not treated in a hospital yes, totally. But it will almost never be an instant kill.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
@@lk-ip1xs you don't know what you are talking about...Knife throw Is waay more powerful then stab
@lk-ip1xs
@lk-ip1xs 8 ай бұрын
@@AdamCeladin I am sorry, but then I have to contradict you and say you have no clue about physics. How could a throw EVER be more powerful, than a stab where the whole bodyweight is put behind it?! Just try grabbing the knife reverse grip and stab the ballistic gel with full force from above. When you stab someone, you can also hold the person or even pull him towards the knife, which again will double the force. I understand, that you love knife throwing, and I usually like your statements, but this I have to call out as crap.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
@@lk-ip1xs That just show you are not a knife thrower and dont know anything about real power behind it - watch this and tell me sorry after ,) kzbin.info/www/bejne/raS7aKmof698prc&ab_channel=QuintBUILDs
@roy-batty
@roy-batty 8 ай бұрын
I always felt that knife throwing in combat was something you do moments before you feel you're gone anyway. Remember that scene from Saving Private Ryan when they keep chucking pistols and helmets at each other? Something like that.
@Erideah
@Erideah 8 ай бұрын
If we're talking modern day, sure, it's pretty niche. Historically, it's more like a personal defense type of thing in situations where no one is likely to have armor (much like concealed carry pistols today). For instance, if you only have a dagger and some throwing knives against a sword, or only a sword and some throwing knives/bo-shuriken against a spear, your odds drastically go up, especially in group combat
@Yora21
@Yora21 8 ай бұрын
While I see the stopping power of any thrown knife to be marginal, I think almost everyone will still flinch considerably when someone throws a knife at you. Because you know it will hurt and could cause a very serious injury, and when it comes flying at your face, you will flinch before you can even think about it. And for that purpose you don't need any kind of actual stopping power. Even if it takes your opponent just a second to get his weapon back into a ready position and to focus his eyes on you again, that can make a big difference. I can totally believe that some people threw knives in combat that way, and trained to do it effectively. Just not for ranged stealth kills. Even if you hit, and you cause an injury, and that injury is actually fatal, there's probably still a 90% chance the guy will be able to do a lot of screaming.
@danielcox7629
@danielcox7629 8 ай бұрын
​@@Erideah swords were for personal defense. Spears were for war. Throwing knives appear most in societies without to much armor, like name an African country. Ninjas used them as a distraction to use more leathal weapons or run away. What daggers were known for in many societies was assassination or theft. So much so that people would go through the effort of making specialized short swords. Knives were general tools for many applications that had nothing to do with combat. Throwing weapons is as a distraction, and designated opener, or for hunting. Maybe in desperation.
@Erideah
@Erideah 8 ай бұрын
@@danielcox7629 Very much depends on what place and time in history we're talking about. Spears are cheaper than swords, and polearms in general were often carried by guards or anyone who wanted to outmatch a sword--so bandits and the like as well as peasants As we know about samurai for instance, if you are a warrior by vocation, you might have the luxury of throwing knives and spikes (metals weren't cheap after all), and a good amount of them put years into shuriken jutsu. You can use it for distraction or an opener, yes, but it also helps very much to close a reach disadvantage. Also, a spearman that might give you and your sword pals trouble by just backing up on light feet is a lot less trouble if one of you throws a tanto-shuriken or bo-shuriken in his neck or eye area, or even just starts him bleeding from anywhere and slowing down There's a wide variety of uses, but they were rare, due to cost and the intense amount of training required to make them useful
@jokervienna6433
@jokervienna6433 Ай бұрын
I feel the same. I´d also rather throw anything else than my knife. I do have the feeling I´d be more succesful with the knife still in my hand, than if I throw it away. But it is all theoretical, I will never end up fighting with knives, throwing them or not.
@csknives
@csknives 8 ай бұрын
Adam. That a was fantastic piece of what really works and what might not. Great throwing. Great info. Thanks brother. Stick
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it brother 🙏 🔪😎Wish you all the best in 2024 🗡
@zavzavzavzavzavzav7769
@zavzavzavzavzavzav7769 8 ай бұрын
Speaking of injuries due to rebound, I remember when I was first learning, I had a knife rebound and hit me square in the chest, right below the sternum. The only thing that saved me was the fact that I was wearing a neck knife at the time. The rebounding knife hit the sheath dead-on, then shooting off to the side. Left a big ole gash on the sheath and a bruise on my chest. It all happened in a flash, didn't even notice the rebound before it hit me. Rebounds are no joke.
@GreenSideScythe
@GreenSideScythe 7 ай бұрын
I've had a rebound hit me in the flesh and it didn't even break skin. Unless you're the hulk at point blank range the worst you'll get is a papercut
@TieToter
@TieToter 8 ай бұрын
I can't believe this is even a question. If you poke a hole in the right place on a human body, with a knife, bullet, arrow, ice pick, or any other device, the human body is going to cease to function. It does not have to create a temporary cavity in ballistic gelatin. It just has to make a hole in the right place.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@jackdorsey4734
@jackdorsey4734 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for exposing the myth about movie knife 🔪 throwing.
@vikingskuld
@vikingskuld 8 ай бұрын
Well if you actually study knife attacks you'll find out not necessarily true. A friend of mine was attacked and stabbed around 10 times through the back and body punctured a lung collapsed it cut an artery did some other massive internal damage. He is still alive and working just fine today. He was the one who called 911 and was found passed out in a pool of blood. Most killings with a blade take dozens and dozens of stabs to finally kill the victim. Yes a good cut to the right arteries can bleed u out quickly. That is rare and very hard to actually do. Statistics says it all. Most actual murders with a blade take so many stabs it doesn't even make sense. Yet report after report is that way. So many times I heard said why did you stab him so many times. Only to hear he wouldn't die or he kept fighting. Since especially a sharp knife the body had an amazing ability to seal up the wound to a small degree internally and keep someone from dying right away. That's knowledge gained from paramedics nurses police and Doctors. I started asking those questions as a teenager and 40 plus years it's always been the same.i have never heard of a less then dozen stabs wounds that killed someone. I'm not saying it's not possible just not likely and not what I have ever heard of read or seen before. My father was an emt and my mother a paramedic then an ER nurse in a big town. So yeah I got to hear a lot of stories of this sort of thing. Just information take it as that and double check what I said. Hope it helps enlighten someone out there.
@philsturgill3435
@philsturgill3435 8 ай бұрын
And you base your argument on the number of people you’ve killed or witnessed being killed?
@vikingskuld
@vikingskuld 8 ай бұрын
@@philsturgill3435 nope reports from paramedics emts ER nurses and doctors along with what I have read in the papers over the years and what I heard from some police who talked about different stabbings and shootings the responded to. Look you can be a total Moron think your right and discount everything I said as nonsense. Or maybe just maybe let a miracle happen use that little bit of brain for some real research look up stabbings yourself and see first hand what they entail I your own big cities. When you do that then decide if what I said makes sense or not. Until then you don't have the knowledge and definitely you don't have the experience. So stop trying to be a keyboard bully your opinion of me or what I say is nothing more then a fart out your blow hole hot air in the wind. Until you do the work you got no background knowledge to pull from
@J.DeLaPoer
@J.DeLaPoer 8 ай бұрын
I've read a fair bit of literature from studies on the subject that penetration wounds of more than about 1.5" depth tend to induce shock in the victim, even when the wound itself isn't fatal or striking any vital area.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
yeah thats wild :O thank you for watching and comment my friend
@MrJibbajabbawocky
@MrJibbajabbawocky 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention in a time before antibiotics, even a relatively shallow wound could lead to infection. Not quite the "henchmen have 1 hp" rule we see in movies an video games.
@CaptainTechnical
@CaptainTechnical 8 ай бұрын
Where did you read that? Genuinely curious.
@nickjenkins1663
@nickjenkins1663 7 ай бұрын
And also you have to keep in mind. that in a real knife fight. see prison videos for reference. the goal is stab, stab, stab. multiple times as fast as possible. it's documented that a single pistol round, has less shock effect I. E. stopping power than a shotgun round.
@Mr_Jumbles
@Mr_Jumbles 7 ай бұрын
​@@CaptainTechnicalFrom "a fair bit of literature" obviously. You know the exact amount that it's so commonly written down that it surely must be true. But also not written down enough that anyone seems to know, talk, or cite it at all. And also that just right amount where when asked it about its source or validity you don't have to cite anything "because surely you should be able to find this information because it's so common and proven emperically true". You know... All the literature about the exact, to the decimal point, depth of penetrative wound which will always cause an average adult to go into shock. THOSE literature.
@georgegonzalez-rivas3787
@georgegonzalez-rivas3787 Ай бұрын
Way back in 1976 or so my first fencing coach mentioned that he had been a champion knife-thrower in his youth. Excited, I asked him what kind of knife I should get for defense. He looked at me sadly and said "get the heaviest knife possible so that when it doesn't stick it will at least hurt him a little".
@unknownuser8828
@unknownuser8828 8 ай бұрын
Great job, Adam! You considered all posibilities here. Basically, to be practical and lethal, the two key points are: 1) No spin throw. 2) Use and knife that is not too light nor have a too wide blade, to achive the best penetration.
@kirill2525
@kirill2525 8 ай бұрын
well the wider one has more chance of cutting arteries. also note that balistics gel is much thicker then tissue. there were also no bones in the way. wht he needs is one of thoes torsos/heads from balistic dummy labs. but they are expencive so people would need to donate. also i thought that the reflexive halfspin could be used at any distance. theres also the Skanf method of using your body like a whip to generate insane force when throwing.
@thelongroadwithryan3788
@thelongroadwithryan3788 8 ай бұрын
I was just talking about this in old cowboy movies, I just find it humorous they show about half an inch of knife steel in someone's shoulder and he dies instantly, then they find a cowboy laying in the road who has been shot in the heart with a 45 and they lay a folded up bandana on it and say hang on I'll go get help😂
@raswerdelad
@raswerdelad 4 ай бұрын
I love westerns and laugh at the shoulder wounds that don’t knock em down- ever. They are great fun though. (Insomnia and now going to go watch the B&W era westerns, thanks!)
@charleshill1906
@charleshill1906 8 ай бұрын
I remember watching a documentary back in the day on ninja's and throwing spikes, shuriken, and throwing knives and it always stuck with me that you're not going to 1 shot kill with a throw unless you can bury a knife through the skull, so regardless of the implement it's mostly meant as a distraction to get you to "flinch" so the ninja can retreat or press his attack with an advantage, because even a skilled fighter having something fly at their face or chest is going to have to work to react especially if they don't expect it and as you demonstrated, even a hit from the blunt end can deal damage of some kind.
@BlackSoap361
@BlackSoap361 8 ай бұрын
Superman may be bulletproof, but he still flinches if you throw a gun at him.
@Soundofwindonsand
@Soundofwindonsand 5 ай бұрын
I think your making a very good " Point" 😁
@PunisherMAXXImmortal
@PunisherMAXXImmortal 4 күн бұрын
100% facts
@lucasolson9132
@lucasolson9132 8 ай бұрын
Adam, this is a super interesting subject to me, and one that I have put a ton of research in. I've been throwing knives for over thirty years and this channel (@AdamCeladin) is one of the very best!! Much respect to you and your research. Your stuff is always top-notch. :) So first off, I respectfully submit a differing opinion to your testing medium and the outcome of this particular test based on my experience. I have first-hand experience hunting with throwing knives on live targets in the jungles of Central America and the woods of North Idaho. I have also used ballistic gel, cold hanging slabs of meat and wooden targets. Each of these mediums has a VERY different reaction to blades. A thrown knife will literally pierce straight through living bone and tissue of a wild jungle pig and come out the other side like an arrow from a bow. It absolutely DESTROYS organs and causes catastrophic system failure in living organic creatures. Ballistic gel is not a good medium for blades. It is too "gooey" and sticky to replicate living tissue and bone. Bodies are containers, hide stretched over a tent frame and filled with blood bearing organs and viscera. Once a point punctures, it is like a balloon inside. Very little resistance. Humans are not solid creatures, but hollow. Wood is essentially armor for knives, and cold hanging meat is a better medium although tougher due to the constriction of the muscle fiber. I did send a 9-ounce knife through two hanging beef sides in a butcher shop with a half-spin. Think of the knife as an arrow without a shaft, or the tip of a thrown spear. It is a sharpened steel point that penetrates into the organs. Arrow and spear wounds are rarely an "instant" kill because of the time required for bleed-out. It's the same with a thrown knife. A head-shot is typically so catastrophic that the animal will drop instantly from shock, although they are hard to pull off. Lung and heart hits bleed out like arrow wounds with between 10-30 seconds until lack of consciousness. It is worth noting that a very sharp knife will create large "Nike Swoosh" type wounds in living tissue because of the rotation of the weapon, which was unexpected to me. Apparently this has to do with the Conservation of angular momentum and the fact that the blade is still trying to rotate after impact. It seems like the edge was the path of least resistance. Also worth noting: Big, heavy knives are very effective at stopping animals whereas lighter blades only create superficial wounds. It does make quite a difference. As always, I appreciate your channel and your videos! Keep rocking! Lucas
@zachary4670
@zachary4670 7 ай бұрын
That’s way sick dude. Thanks for the stories and perspective. I didn’t even know people hunted with throwing knives! Question: how do you get the distance right when throwing?
@jonathanwessner3456
@jonathanwessner3456 8 ай бұрын
I am always amazed that the blades appear to sink deeply through bone (like ribs) in a vertical orientation, instead of horizontal (which would slip between the ribs better) Heck, if they hit them in the back, it is always THROUGH the shoulder blade.
@Old_Fafnir
@Old_Fafnir 8 ай бұрын
Knife throwing history: Grey Otter In World War II, he took out a German sentry with a downhill bayonet throw of 87 feet. He drew bead on a spot about three feet over the sentry's head and let fly, the bayonet rotating end-over-end and taking the German at the base of the skull.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
I never trusted this story...too much of a distance for Spin rotation (I speak about this in my first point) this was war propaganda in my opinion:)
@williamwofford2503
@williamwofford2503 8 ай бұрын
@@AdamCeladin agreed if it happened as the story said it was pure luck or the target was closer than 87 feet speed, drop, weight of the knife etc all have to be factored in and a spiral toss is not as fast as a straight throw.
@lonkero
@lonkero 8 ай бұрын
But as you mentioned in the video..even if the handle hits..it will brake bone etc.. I to dont believe that he stuck it tip first..but its possible to kill from that range with both sides of the knife. And as always...Supernice content !!​@@AdamCeladin
@danielcox7629
@danielcox7629 8 ай бұрын
Background and the fact that bayonets are balanced for chopping and weighed like a much longer knife might make a difference. It's worth a debunking video.
@jamesclark6427
@jamesclark6427 8 ай бұрын
I believe this story is in Harry McEvoy's book on knife throwing. If I remember correctly, Grey Otter had been a pro knife thrower before the war, and everyone including him was surprised he actually managed to make such a lucky shot. It does seem possible, just extremely difficult.
@Crangaso
@Crangaso 7 ай бұрын
Learned how to throw knives but practicing throwing butter knives into trees. Never thought it would penetrate but sure AF does.
@eyeofbass
@eyeofbass 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping it real. Too many people live in the movies. There’s also the saying to keep in mind. Never throw your weapon away. 😉
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@kurtasiak
@kurtasiak 8 ай бұрын
I cannot agree because in history there have been recorded cases of the use of throwing knives in combat conditions. All these knife throws were probably performed with a rotational technique 1 Americans have in their records the killing of an opponent with a thrown knife straight to the heart The Pacific War against Japan 2 In one of the books they describe, Memories Russian scouts There is a description of a knife throw into the stomach of a German officer. After the scouts entered the dugout, this situation is confirmed by the fact that the officer, despite the wound, managed to shoot the scout with his personal pistol. 3 Russian sources described a knife throw from the bushes into the neck of a Russian guard from ten meters away, War in Chechnya, 4 On one of the police channels on YT there is a case of a policeman being hit in the stomach with a thrown knife after entering the suspect's house. The policeman was "overpowered by pain. The second policeman from the team shot at the attacker. 4 In my country, there is a known criminal case where the attacker, throwing a knife, knocked down and he stopped the innkeeper who was attacking him with a pitchfork. All these throws were rotational
@ItalNico
@ItalNico 8 ай бұрын
Very good points. We need more research and evidence from cases where people were hit with a thrown blade and how long it took for them to no longer be a viable threat. Consider how many videos exist of people being shot multiple times with a handgun, only to continue attacking and still present a lethal threat before the severity of their wounds shuts their nervous system down. A shot from a carbine/rifle can deliver enough force to drop a person in their tracks, but most handguns may not. Add in the fact that a thrown knife hits with much less force than even a bullet from a handgun and that leaves us with a problem. Even if a knife hits a vital area that later causes the person to bleed out, lose consciousness and/or perish, the force of the thrown knife will not cause enough of a shock to knock down or instantly incapacitate that person. And in those few moments before (or if) they do collapse, they could most definitely inflict fatal damage on the other person.
@b.h.abbott-motley2427
@b.h.abbott-motley2427 8 ай бұрын
George "Skeeter" Vaughan supposedly threw a 16in knife made from a bayonet 87ft downhill to silently kill a German sentry in 1944, striking the base of the skull. If true, this must have been a rotational throw.
@kurtasiak
@kurtasiak 8 ай бұрын
@@ItalNico That's right, It is generally accepted that a full-jacketed bullet from a gun causes wounds similar to knife wounds. From my observations, pistol bullets are more destructive to bones, while a knife causes faster bleeding from soft tissues. Transverse cutting of a larger number of vessels. It seems to work like this also on internal organs, e.g. the liver. This running after a gunshot results mainly from shooting in the chest and lungs, which are not innervated in themselves. It should also be noted that a knife inserted after a throw can block the vessels by itself, so immediate incapacitation with a thrown knife it can occur in all people only when hit, in the spine, heart, carotid arteries, large nerves causing pain, e.g. adrenal glands, sciatic nerves. In other cases, you can only count on the pain shock of the hit victim. That's why it was once said in special units in our East that you can and should throw a knife, but only if you have another knife to run up and finish off the "victim", Currently, knife throwing has lost much of its relevance in the army, because of ballistic shields, a large number of magazines, automatic rifles and more easily available silencers with ammunition subsonic, But for the streets of the post-apocalypse, It can still be a good skill, including throwing other objects such as a hammer, pieces of glass, sheet metal, stones, hatchets, shovels, etc.
@ca1498
@ca1498 6 ай бұрын
You might want to clarify what you mean by rotational. From what I have read and seen, knife throwing techniques are classified as no-spin (hold by the handle), half-spin (hold by the blade), and full-spin (at least 360 degrees spin). Everybody who does it seems to say that full-spin is very beautiful but requires pre-measured distance. No-spin and half-spin do not. For most people, no-spin actually turns out to be a quarter spin or even more, and they need to adjust slightly for the distance. A few people, mostly from Russia, throw truly with no spin at all. Half-spin obviously requires some adjustment for distance, which people who are good at it can do pretty well.
@kurtasiak
@kurtasiak 6 ай бұрын
​@@ca1498 I consider rotation to be any single throw in which the blade does not fly out of the hand towards the target and does not fly straight. If we throw from a longer distance, any knife thrown from the blade or handle will eventually make a full rotation. I often threw the knife for two or even three turns, the shovel for five or seven turns and stuck it into the tree. However, throw under any circumstances, without measuring distance. I had worked for one or half a turn, both from the blade and the handle. Also in motion, from the knee in the fall and after leaning forward. Two-turn shovel This applies not only to "combat" knife throws at a live target, but also to shovels, axes, screwdrivers, large nails and rods, hammers and wrenches. , sheet metal, glass, Special knives or needles are needed to throw without rotation. This throw can be difficult with a variety of assault knives. And in the case of long tools with handles, this is completely pointless. The throw itself without rotation seems much weaker than with rotation. In the case of a light knife, shocking the target with the tip may be important, in the case of other items it will not be so important.
@hraefn1821
@hraefn1821 8 ай бұрын
This is an excellent illustration of why throwing knives have traditionally been used as distractions more than weapons. Also the spin / distance is why the hurlbat was created in the medieval era. Points in EVERY orientation so it is GOING to stick. Kill? Unlikely. Hurt like hell and distract them while you close in with a sword? Yup.
@MrVeps1
@MrVeps1 8 ай бұрын
I can't remember where I read it, but I vaguely remember a book with some young kid throwing his knife into a stump, and the old, grizzled veteran asks why. He says he can kill a bird in flight, and the veteran asks something like "Can you kill two? No? Then keep your knife close and practise the bow". We make different weapons to do different things for a reason. Also, if you miss with something like the hurlbat, the enemy still has to run across a field strewn with sharp and pointy bits of metal.
@hraefn1821
@hraefn1821 8 ай бұрын
@@MrVeps1 Caltrops...one of my favorite sneaky implements. But very true. There is no "good at everything." Different tools for different jobs. Also no need for artificially increasing difficulty when there is a more reliable and simple alternative. (why I take a bo staff or club over nunchuks for example)
@tommyking8560
@tommyking8560 8 ай бұрын
Really cool to see the test with ballistic gel Adam! Much love, you taught me everything i know about throwing ❤
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Thank you my friend 😎
@vladimirbrkusanin3581
@vladimirbrkusanin3581 8 ай бұрын
Very good video👌I was in the army in special forces and instructor on hand to hand combat was showing as how litle penetration had a clunky bayonete when trowing... Instead they teach us how to trow entrenching showel and military axe... That two inflicted some serious damage😬
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend 🙏I love to throw both shovels and axes too they are effective and useful tools in general
@Hagemann666
@Hagemann666 2 ай бұрын
I love that you've become the voice of knife-throwing! I've followed you for quite some time and you're so down-to-earth and have great humility. Also, you've got such a practical, realistic view of the sport. It would be easy to try to over-romaticize it but throwing weapons is already sexy enough...no need to make it into something that it's not. Sadly, my throwing days are pretty much over since I had shoulder surgery a few years ago. So I live vicariously through you and your channel. Keep up the amazing work!
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for nice words my friend 🙏take care
@Coach_BigMac
@Coach_BigMac 7 ай бұрын
I don't know what I did to the algorithm to get this dude's video but I'm glad I did! He's hilarious and informative! New fan!
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 7 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend
@TheRealRomansThirteen
@TheRealRomansThirteen 8 ай бұрын
The study of counter Ambush has brought me to so many different instructors. Hopefully everyone in this community has some exposure to it too. To Matie, Ed Calderon, Libra knife fighting, and Clint Emerson. Among them studies though there's a lot of artery and organ targets. Counter ambush is the study of striking shock zones to incapacitate an attacker, but they can also be lethal. The arteries that we know especially in the neck area with your precision it's absolutely a go and is 110% lethal. The Carotid artery jugular artery and trachea. The bronchial artery, also from above if you were throwing down you have the subclavian. If you hit low there's an artery in the navel there's also the femoral arteries. For Organ placement the lungs the heart the kidneys and the liver and spleen. Very low perhaps the bad guy is running to cover to shoot at you. The Tibia artery. If you could sink the I shot and penetrate the orbit old school zgb style also deadly. The temple and occipital lobe for head hunting too, to get into the brain organ that you have to get through the skull. It also has to be noted the most poison arrows darts and throwing weapons were poison tipped. Some stuff out there is terrible, just a nick or a scratch, and you're out of it. The Catholic Rosery is a hint* to that. I hope they cast you for John Wick 5. Someone from Hollywood should have noticed by now.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you my my friend 😎🔪you are right even bad ricochet could have serious consequences
@MasoTrumoi
@MasoTrumoi Ай бұрын
I believe that one throw one kill in games is a balancing choice. You need to sacrifice a piece of ammo that you do not carry a lot of or worse you need to throw away a melee weapon to make the attack. To make it "worth it" in the game mechanics, it needs to at least be a sure thing. In a shooter usually the throwing knife will replace a grenade, so you need it to give you a similar effect to a grenade for it to be worth having it, as an example.
@Glow-n16
@Glow-n16 8 ай бұрын
In my first year of knife throwing I bought a hunting knife with a wooden handle and a very sharp blade. I threw it a few times without much success. The handle being made of wood did not give it a good weight to volume ratio. So I started to throw it harder and harder... Then the knife landed on the board on the handle, which made it bounce back to my right arm... Now I've got 6 stitches. Good thing about it is that for 3 months I had to use my left hand to throw so now I can pretty much throw from both hands. Sharp tips, and if there's any blade, make sure it's dull.
@Soundofwindonsand
@Soundofwindonsand 5 ай бұрын
Please take great caution if you happen to take up throwing Axes.....
@earthknight60
@earthknight60 8 ай бұрын
I liked it that in the Strike Back show the one time there is a knife-throw kill it's a no-spin throw.
@ShreddingFinn
@ShreddingFinn 8 ай бұрын
I always found it telling that I can get a knife to stick far deeper into wood with a throw then a manual stab, and I just figured any hit on a vital organ would spell massive injury or death fairly easily
@jonathanwessner3456
@jonathanwessner3456 8 ай бұрын
Yes, but hitting a vital organ with a thrown knife is not easy. Especially if the target is defending themselves
@fajile5109
@fajile5109 8 ай бұрын
I noticed this as a kid playing with a piece of rebar. Both hand jumping down on wood i could poke a good hole throwing the rebar it would stab in deep enough to stand on its own.
@jessedorsettii9988
@jessedorsettii9988 4 ай бұрын
Great way to meditate. I practiced for a while many years ago and found it relaxing. Fun to do. It's been years though. I think I will pick it up again.
@DroneChannelUSA
@DroneChannelUSA 8 ай бұрын
Amazingly well edited so fun to watch - really appreciate the time you put into this, makes for super high quality content
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much my friend :)) BIG Thanks Goes to my friend great Cameraman/Editor Peter.
@swatson1190
@swatson1190 8 ай бұрын
I am 53 years old. I have thrown knives my whole life. I stared throwing knives when I was around 6 years old. My dad knew a circus knife thrower that got me started. And you are right about the spin. I have buried the point to the point that the tip snapped off when I pulled it out. So it's not about how hard you throw it's more about skill.
@swatson1190
@swatson1190 8 ай бұрын
There was one time I was going through some old stuff on the porch. There was an old cheap ice pick dagger in the box. I threw it at a log near the porch. It buried deep enough that it took splitting the log with an axe to get it out. It was worthless after that because it warped it. So in that case the very thin light blade would have been lethal.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for comment my friend
@RenatoAlcantara-yd2ts
@RenatoAlcantara-yd2ts 8 ай бұрын
I almost got cut multiple times attempting knife throwing. Today I know what mistakes to avoid... specially what kind of blades. how much power and what distances to start...and since I haven't done in ages I will have to start from scratch. Great video!! THANK YOU!!
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
thank you my friend .)))
@bobafett8063
@bobafett8063 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for adding safety information as well to the danger of rebound. I'm interested in learning throwing but never considered this.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 5 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend
@seresamgala8125
@seresamgala8125 5 ай бұрын
Circus knife throwers ARE super accurate and ARE able to do full power throws EVERY TIME. Everybody else typically can't match them.
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor 4 ай бұрын
Even they can get screwed up if you give them knives with different weights and balances.
@seresamgala8125
@seresamgala8125 4 ай бұрын
@BlooCollaGal sabotage? ... that's for anybody & anything! Bad fuel can sabotage a racer, bad bullets a sniper ... and what's your point then? 😁
@amenarth02
@amenarth02 8 ай бұрын
I think you demonstrated perfectly what a dagger was designed to in the first place, through out history it was kinda the finish blow on the battle field or a street fight, easy to hide and in the same time used in combination with another sword.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
thank you :))
@laurenceperkins7468
@laurenceperkins7468 3 ай бұрын
You can make up for lack of mass with greater speed, but the techniques to throw faster preclude controlling the spin. So then you're into needing to throw things where the spin doesn't matter.
@Codevil.
@Codevil. 8 ай бұрын
Those are my favorite movies, Desparoto and Natural Born Killers
@oliviergagnon2592
@oliviergagnon2592 7 ай бұрын
Yeah two classics from the 90s. Natural Born Killer is quite an experience to watch
@stevenpappin6181
@stevenpappin6181 5 ай бұрын
Another great video. Very genuine, very informative and I appreciate that you remind people of the potential dangers, even while practicing. Well done. Thank you.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 5 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend
@justinwoodford6698
@justinwoodford6698 8 ай бұрын
We used to play horse with throwing knives. We learned distance was the number 1 factor for us to stick it well. Each knife had a different distance. Once you found that sweet spot, though, it was on.
@mikeydudek2885
@mikeydudek2885 8 ай бұрын
My best friend that lives in the woods taught me how to though a knife straight without spin, but he taught me his underhand technique. I got pretty decent at it, but it has been a while since I’ve tried.
@freestatefellow
@freestatefellow 6 ай бұрын
Talking about knife throwing rebounds, if you’re throwing knives, always have a first aid kit nearby and know how to use it!
@winstonallen9590
@winstonallen9590 5 ай бұрын
I will add one more thing. Military half spin is also a very strong throw that could be used in a knife throwing situation. Also a throwing knife in my opinion should be used as a secondary weapon in combat. For instance if your rifle ran out of bullets and you were in a pretty close quarter combat situation then it could be a viable option. BTW: Excellent video. I would be curious to see if the ballistic gel was wrapped in a t-shirt or coat how the penetration would differ.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 5 ай бұрын
Thank you ,)) i will do test like that on Saturday, with clothing it was totally different i was really surprised.
@richardmcginnis5344
@richardmcginnis5344 2 ай бұрын
I see a lot of people talking about spin and distance from the target, then I watch and use the no spin method and I believe the no spin is better than the spin because once you figure out the no spin you can throw a knife as hard as you can throw a rock and hit e Every time, I learned no spin in about 30 seconds and progressed from there
@MrJamesD
@MrJamesD 8 ай бұрын
@7:35 , a great many people don't understand kinetic energy and here you explain it
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Yup ,)) thank you my friend
@ghoulie11
@ghoulie11 8 ай бұрын
If you were using a throwing knife as a weapon, you want it to fall out of the wound. If the knife sticks, it'll restrict bleeding which is why you keep the object in with puncture wounds. That thick kunai is still very dangerous despite it not being able to penetrate as deep. I wonder how it would do with a grazing blow or with spin.
@redhair256
@redhair256 8 ай бұрын
It's good research, but Adam, you forgot one important thing. It's pain. Person can die from pain shock. When we speak about knife fight, more people died from pain shock, then blood lose, or demage internal organs. You can easy find statistick if you want.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Wow yeah I did not reconsider that one for sure and many more of course 😬 thank you for watching and comment my friend
@l33tsamurai
@l33tsamurai 7 ай бұрын
Those daggers reminded me how much I wanted a set of the ones from V for Vendetta... unfortunately I can't find them from a seller I'd trust to give me something usable...😢 Also: ballistic gel is even harder to cut/ penetrate than flesh.
@3a4em_Te6e_3HaTb
@3a4em_Te6e_3HaTb 8 ай бұрын
One of my ex-girlfriends really wanted sai knives, like Raphael's in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I forged them from rebar. When thrown from a distance of 5-7 meters into a tree, they stuck in such a way that they could only be removed with a tire iron
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't really call sai "knives" since they're usually just pointy...
@pallas29
@pallas29 4 ай бұрын
This guy is unreal! The little bit I have done with throwing, I was always more accurate throwing from the blade, because in my head, I could see how the knife would travel end over end, but nowhere near with the force this dude tosses.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 4 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend
@carlossotelo5545
@carlossotelo5545 3 ай бұрын
4:50 Hahaha he wasn't even trying ... Too good 🔥
@elliewillow4556
@elliewillow4556 8 ай бұрын
I am a nurse confused by this debate. Human anatomy is very simple that you need organs and blood. It’s like a bottle of water that gets a hole in it, it’s going to empty slowly. If we create a wound in the flesh barrier to the subcutis . It confuses me how people don’t know anatomy & physics
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Right?!haha thank you 😊
@tsafa
@tsafa 6 ай бұрын
This is the best knife throwing video I have seen
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 6 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend and i willhave even better one next week :P
@remihein4452
@remihein4452 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharring, Mate!!! Very, very importent to know, cause accidents happens now and then. Blessings from Denmark! 🇩🇰
@benjaminfroussos7466
@benjaminfroussos7466 8 ай бұрын
Im practicing No Spin Momently. So much fun. Always best Angle.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Awesome Ben, will have cool video about no spin on Saturday :P
@dick_richards
@dick_richards 8 ай бұрын
i broke my Puma Bigcat 10....i could hit center, off the hip, 9 times out 0f 10. Thanks for the help.
@coreytaggart128
@coreytaggart128 8 ай бұрын
The real trick is the one with Chuck Norris, they don't show it but that is the 143 person that that knife hit. 1 throw 143 kills.
@blackrhaven
@blackrhaven 8 ай бұрын
I'm impressed, a very honest video and it's mirroring my own experience fully.😊
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Echo-ey2wh
@Echo-ey2wh 8 ай бұрын
I love the videos you have such a great gift GOD bless
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@davefletch3063
@davefletch3063 8 ай бұрын
The reality is, even gun mostly fail on one shot one kill
@obiwanfisher537
@obiwanfisher537 8 ай бұрын
I don't think you can break bones with the handle. It would hurt a little but nothing you can just brush off. Tip first, okay, granted, but handle first? Nope. And during the gel test, I think the kunai penetrated just as deep as the kitchen knife. But you say one is big damage, and the other one is not. Hmmmm Either way, the camera work on this video is insanely good.
@markattila9835
@markattila9835 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic throwing, Please mind that clothing adds a huge amount difference depending on the material. I have been throwing daggers for a few years and if for example wood is covered with jeans it's different then if something soft is covered like rubber. Please do a video with ballistic gel and different materials as clothing such as jeans, raincoat, leather, thick wool jacket etc. Some clothing is quite more resistant surprisingly even against heavier weapons especially if the point hits the target at an angle away from the 90 degrees.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much i will make Clothing on Ballistic Gel for sure ,))
@markattila9835
@markattila9835 8 ай бұрын
@@AdamCeladin You're welcome, it will be awesome and fun!
@jmuise2704
@jmuise2704 8 ай бұрын
I told a good friend who happens to be a martial arts instructor that I had bought a pack of throwing knives and made a target stand for it. His reply was why would you throw away a perfectly good weapon?
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Classic noob comment 👌 😎
@therealreasons9141
@therealreasons9141 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a bad idea to throw away your -last- weapon. However, any weapon that you could potentially wound an enemy with while they can't wound you is a win.
@ReasonbyNight
@ReasonbyNight 7 ай бұрын
Every video of you just tells me that Marvels Bullseye is one of the best written and most sensical characters. :-D
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 7 ай бұрын
YES :D There is really something about his Charakter that make it more realistic compare to other heros with too much super natural skills
@saikawanderer9166
@saikawanderer9166 8 ай бұрын
just reminded me, I have a bunch of wee kunai like the one shown. Did have one bounce back and hit my ribs when i was first learning to throw
@raswerdelad
@raswerdelad 4 ай бұрын
Adam, never lose that accent. I love it. You sound cool. And you throw pro! So cool. Just started Bo shuriken!
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 4 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend
@ModdedGarage
@ModdedGarage 6 ай бұрын
have you tried to lubricate any of those blades when doing the ballistic gel tests. flesh is mostly water and the natural wetness of it i believe lends itself to being cut and or penetrated, while gel does not.
@konixtwenty8275
@konixtwenty8275 4 ай бұрын
I've been throwing knives since I was about 9 years old. I throw with 1 rotation holding it by the blade. My longest throw and stick with 1 rotation is 35 feet. I can pretty much stick anything from scissors to any kind of knife. Everything you say is pretty much correct. I would add that if you throw a knife at a person the knife won't penetrate easily because of clothes. For example, if someone is wearing a heavy denim shirt, it will act as a barrier. The knife would have to be long, narrow, sharp and heavy. If the opponent is wearing something like a thick leather jacket then the chances of penetration begin to drop. The jacket would have to be tight against the front or the back for the knife to go through. Throwing a knife at someone is less dangerous to the thrower than throwing it at a piece of wood because the knife will not bounce off of someone's body and hit you.
@AzureDeathHaseo
@AzureDeathHaseo 8 ай бұрын
I'm a hobbyist knife and axe thrower, we make it look it like it's easy, and the fact is, it IS easy for us, who've practiced a whole lot on our free time, but if I must reveal a secret to make people understand, just like our man here did, it is all about knowing your distance. We (me, brother, cousins) used to practice on an old and very large tree on my grandpa's property and once everyone had found their right spot (distance wise) some of us would hit it perfectly at every single throw, it got to the point where we would put our initials under our footprints at the right spot. We were kids (and teens) at the time and probably won't ever do this again, but back then, we felt like true warriors by using math without knowing it was math.
@AzureDeathHaseo
@AzureDeathHaseo 8 ай бұрын
Also, subscribed. Great info!
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much 😊
@goyoelburro
@goyoelburro 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Brings reality to knife throwing!
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 5 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend 🙏be sure to check my new video as well 😎
@mcmneverreadsreplys7318
@mcmneverreadsreplys7318 6 ай бұрын
Assuming a thrower has dedicated his/her life to throwing and practices 10 hours a day at varying distances: AND assuming they are precision accurate to within one inch of their intended point of impact: AND assuming they hit and sever an artery or vein or even pierce the heart directly - IT STILL TAKES TIME FOR A PERSON TO BLEED OUT TO UNCONSCIOUS - after which it doesn't matter. If you stick a knife in the heart of a person with a gun in their hand, in the 30+ seconds to several minutes of consciousness they have they will likely still be able to empty the magazine and possibly load and empty another one before they pass out from blood loss. It is likely to be rapid fire 'spray and pray' (not carefully sighted and aimed shots) but they can still kill. And as you are their attacker you will be the likely target and will be close enough to be an easy hit. I love to throw. Use to teach it. However, the best way to use any edge-weapon in combat is IN HAND. Except in cases of throwing at a fleeing enemy's back as a last ditch effort to stop them. That last one only works in war; in civilian life you'll go down for murder - even if the dead one was indisputably the initial attacker.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and comment
@AlfaRevoluzione
@AlfaRevoluzione 8 ай бұрын
Long time ago mi no visit that Channel. Do you wanna Battle? Arrow vs Knife Speedshooting? Greetings from Switzerland.
@TheArkcantos
@TheArkcantos 3 ай бұрын
Good content. Although I was actually expecting bowie knife throw performance to ballistic gel since FACT Or MYTH from movies.
@speakingtowind
@speakingtowind 8 ай бұрын
I love the knights throwing knife, Wonderful design.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend 😎
@ScottGrow117
@ScottGrow117 6 ай бұрын
Many of the throws on the ballistic gel had significant contact with the post the gel was sitting on. That had to effect the penetration of the throw.
@olgavelichko3759
@olgavelichko3759 4 ай бұрын
Красавчик,соскучилась,по пирату.😊😊😊😊😊 Как всегда на позитиве.😊
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 4 ай бұрын
Спасибо, Ольга )) надеюсь, у вас все хорошо
@TheRealRomansThirteen
@TheRealRomansThirteen 8 ай бұрын
Wasn't it the Austrians that went into the trench only armed with a knife? The Rondal dagger did just what you'd think it would do. I don't know how to do it but we got to try to get you a ballistic gelatin torso. Maybe ballistic dummy Labs will sponsor you for a video I don't know. Can you ask your team to reach out? Tell them to make sure it's a zombie torso for KZbin. Your the best Adam Celadin!
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
That was Italians 😎🔪 yeah I reach out to Ballistic Dummy lab but they offered only discount and it would still cost sooo much you know but there are fine 🙂 thank you brother
@silkyme513
@silkyme513 7 ай бұрын
Great video covering it all I’ve been watching your content for the last year and have lots of respect for you keep it up man
@mbavery1975
@mbavery1975 7 ай бұрын
Would like to see something similar with different types and sizes of throwing stars.
@234fddesa
@234fddesa 8 ай бұрын
You know, one or two inches of penetration can be severe, if, for instance, it hits you in the neck, thigh, arms or legs, solar plexus, etc. at the same time, I think based on what I've seen in this video, I'd say that it really doesn't have enough momentum to pierce bone, and the relative chances that a knife goes through a ribcage doesn't seem great, to me. Ribcage being roughly center mass, or where you would basically want to aim. There's not many organs you could do major damage to underneath the ribcage, either, not in the 2 inches of penetration this has. Perhaps a knife can sort of find its way in after deflecting off a rib, and maybe the stiffer structure of the body overall might lead to a deeper penetration, but it seems apparent that the ballistic gel is much too good at absorbing the energy from the knife, especially as it goes in an inch or two. Other people have brought up coverings, like denim, jackets, what have you, but I'd like to say that I think you should do a test with a larger piece of gelatin, and maybe a more secured piece of gel, something with a rod driven through it, like a bone might be, in order to keep it locked down, or a clamp, because I don't know if that would help or not. I would also think that maybe sharper, or more concave grinds, and thinner blade profiles might help here, with blade weight and flexibilitythen being the issue, which would make me think that a thin blade with a heavy and thick center mass would be the most well-suited to hitting someone with a throw, maybe even with barbs, or single sided serrations, so it works in over time, and can't be taken out. Fullers might also be useful, as they might concentrate the force more thoroughly on just the edge of the blade, rather than the whole of the blade. I dunno, requires further testing, but I don't think that it's looking like a particularly lethal or even generally good form of attack, considering the incredible amount of damage you could do with a knife in your hand, and the relatively lower distances required to be accurate, and have low travel times. Overall, it would maybe seem to be a technique of last resort, something you might throw out if you think someone might draw a gun and shoot you, or something you might do if you're not confident in your knife-fighting ability, which, to be fair, is pretty well-justified, based on how knife fights tend to go. Even if you're the only guy with a knife, it might go sideways. Or maybe something you might do if you just have a knife in hand, and then intend on drawing a different weapon that might be a better option for you, like a baton, or a heavy flashlight, or running away. High speed cameras might also be useful for analysis of how we could design a knife that does this more effectively, and I'd also wanna see spin throwing, just for comaprison, even if I agree it's really not a practical thing to do for the vast majority of people.
@MP-db9sw
@MP-db9sw 2 ай бұрын
When I was really into throwing one of my favorites was an old tire iron and I tell ya what, based on what it did to the trees in my yard id bet that even if it wouldnt kill it would give them something more important than me to think about lol.
@robohippy
@robohippy 8 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see how they penetrate on an anatomically correct torso that you see on the gun channels. Bones are in them.....
@lorddemonoss3945
@lorddemonoss3945 8 ай бұрын
I've been wondering about this 🤔 thanks 😊
@3a4em_Te6e_3HaTb
@3a4em_Te6e_3HaTb 8 ай бұрын
I was born in 1984 in Russia. Since i was 5 years old i play with knifes. We play a lot of games with a knife while we were kids. So most of them is thouing, from a distance. It may be, i think if you train since you 5 years old, and physically train for this art. And don't forget that we have no thouing knifes like you have today
@battleboard9185
@battleboard9185 3 ай бұрын
Hello! I think that the use of plates with blunt, rounded ends will be very suitable for real self-defense! Rounded plates can cause serious injuries but not fatal(as you said)!Which makes them ideal non-lethal means of self-defense!There is a lot of potential in using these.Good luck!
@RobertoLopez-e9k
@RobertoLopez-e9k Ай бұрын
That Yaku wide blade is the deadlier. Narrow blades cut deep but often miss inside the body .Wide blades like the Yaku knife slice and cut wide. Needing only about 2” deep making arteries ,ligaments tendons irreparable, sometimes.usually bleeding out faster as well.
@robertseptim3579
@robertseptim3579 8 ай бұрын
After seeing you stick the back-end of the knife, I couldn't help but think: What about double-sided thrown weapons?
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
They are easy to stick and big damage too
@4thbranch834
@4thbranch834 8 ай бұрын
I made one in my buddies forge, one side is pointier and the other side is fat. One gets good penetration while the other side sticks but hits real loud
@manfredconnor3194
@manfredconnor3194 8 ай бұрын
My uncle served two tours in Vietnam. After the war, he became a draftsman and electrician. One day we were going to our hunting camp to do some carpentry and electrical work. He was standing a bit behind me and to one side. When I opened the door, a mouse started jumping up the risers of the wooden staircase about 4-5 yards away. In one smooth move, without saying anything my uncle threw a screwdriver from his toolbelt at the mouse and pinned it to the steps! He said that it was more luck than skill, and I believe him, but still . . . Later I did a lot of knife and axe throwing and I got pretty good at it, but later I learned that I was using the WRONG method. I used the spin method and never learned to do the straight throws until later. As a result, I am not as practiced with the straight throws now, which is unfortunate, because as Adam says they are better for combat. Still, I used to be a pretty good judge of speed and distance, and I knew the set distances that I could hit with a spin throw pretty well. I never had to do it in combat, but I did it quite a few times in training. I am not sure of the practicality of knife throwing. There is a big opportunity cost there in learning something else like jujitsu, knife fighting or gunfighting. Also, what are the chances that you are going to get into a situation, where you have to use that skill and actually have all the necessary parts come together? Many times throwing a rock, beer bottle or coffee mug is more likely and realistic. It starts with: Are you ever likely going to be in a situation where you need this skill? If you are likely to be in a situation where you need this skill, might not another skill be more practical/easier/better to learn? Are you aware of your surroundings enough to recognize the situation in time, when the time comes? Do you carry your knives with you everywhere (e.g. work, shopping, working-out, walking, during leisure time, etc.)? If you are in a fight what are the chances that your position/situation is such that throwing a knife will likely make more sense than deescalating, running away, punching someone, restraining someone, pulling a gun or a knife or just whacking the aggressor with a club, chair, stick, ball-bat or pipe, etc.? (Sometimes you might not want to throw a knife. Sometimes you might not be able to throw a knife. Sometimes a throwing knife is not the right weapon/response for the situation at hand.) Have you practiced enough that you can draw and throw quickly and accurately enough without telegraphing? There are so many variables that have to come together for that scenario to be viable, that you might be better off learning MS Excel, how to sew, how to drive, how to cook, whatever. If you are worried about fights and fighting knife-throwing is probably one of the last skills I would invest in. It takes a lot of time to be really good like Adam and for that scenario will probably never pop up in your lifetime. Even if it did you are more likely to use a gun or your hand-to-hand skills than you are to use a knife. Knife throwing can certainly be useful in a fight and it can distract some people, who are coming at you even if you do not hit well. But seriously, how often is all that going to come together and is the time that you spend learning knife throwing worth the opportunity cost of practicing your hand-to-hand skills or your skill drawing your gun? What I will say is that knife throwing is fun and it can be a kind of hobby on the side. You probably do a lot of other stupid or silly shit that does not have as much potential to help you in a bad situation (e.g. gambling, drinking, smoking, bullshitting, watching you tube videos, etc.) If you just stop doing some of that shit and make a few throws a day, you can get pretty good over time. So that you have another skill in your belt. At least, it can be a fun party trick or maybe help with vermin control. You are probably not going to carry a bayonet around with you unless you are in combat somewhere. Just sayin'. So are you likely going to be in a situation where knife-throwing skills are warranted? If you are is the opportunity-cost of learning how to throw a knife masterfully worth it in terms of all the other skills that you could potentially learn instead? Is knife-throwing something that brings you enough joy that you can practice it as a hobby on the side and develop your skill over time? You decide.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for nice comment :)
@sebastianmaliszewski9036
@sebastianmaliszewski9036 8 ай бұрын
throwing with half/full spin on unknown distances is always a problem in movies, games and etc. A polish fantasy book "cienioryt" have a throwing knife scene which I really liked. Main character throws his side arm towards an enemy, but he just breaks his face with the pommel, cause he didn't have time for guessing the rotations
@vortecmacs
@vortecmacs 8 ай бұрын
Try it with a side of beef or a pig carcass or something. Ballistics gel is very elastic and I imagine it could be pushing the blades back out. Ballistics gel isn’t an analogue for human flesh, it’s just something that can be used as a constant variable in firearms. Idk that you get the same effect with bladed weapons. There’s also a lot of give with the gel.
@Aufsammelkabbler
@Aufsammelkabbler 7 ай бұрын
Depending on who you are throwing the knife at and in which setting this is playing out, medieval settings for example, you have to account for some kind of armour or at least heavy clothing (for example usual modern combat gear or even a warm jacket). As seen in many gambeson tests those are quite good at stopping or at least softening the blow considerably. If we reduce the penetrating power of those throws in actual flesh due to this many of those throws wouldn't stop or incapacitate an opponent this close to you.
@scotttaxdal5297
@scotttaxdal5297 8 ай бұрын
I caught a steak knife in the calf muscle. Went in about an inch. Didn't hurt that bad initially but the next two weeks healing up sucked. These are not playthings.
@shkotayd9749
@shkotayd9749 8 ай бұрын
Man that was a good video lol. I had always wondered about how real this was compared to games and films. Doctors I know have said too that theres a lot of structures just 1-2in under the skin too, that if cut, you will die if you dont get immediate medical help. Me? Biggest danger I face throwing these is my own, inexperienced ass lol. That bounce back would probably take an eye out. I had no idea spin was bad too in such a thing as a potential fight.
@angybean
@angybean 6 ай бұрын
Would a bigger but heavier knife like a leather neck or small bowie knife be fatal if thrown?
@Thekulprit92
@Thekulprit92 8 ай бұрын
One thing to note is the wound channel, once that blade flopps around on the inside thats continually exapanding the wound channel increasing blood loss, thats the same effect that happens with a spear on a mouse or boar
@Thekulprit92
@Thekulprit92 8 ай бұрын
I do not know what it's called exactly, but that "flopping effect" is the most lethal part, once the animal runs away and it flops, they are instantly dead, this wouldn't be as bad with a knife, but it would cause massive hemorrhaging
@huskiefan8950
@huskiefan8950 8 ай бұрын
Just another point, adam says that it would take years and years of serious practice to become that deadly, but in the movie, the guy that throws the knives, we can assume HAS had years and years of crazy practice, thats the character he plays, a psycho with no life lol
@colinmoore7460
@colinmoore7460 8 ай бұрын
I always tell myself that, in the movies, they use poison, to explane the instant kill. A little Poison Arrow Frog secretions or curare (or curarei)...
@ciddax754
@ciddax754 8 ай бұрын
I have once thrown two knifes from a friend who was very much into asian martial combat. The two knifes looked a little bit like the one with the broad tip, but they were not wide that and the tip more shaped like a spear point and easily four inches. Then came the broadest part, followed by easily six inches of blade going again narrower and a small handle. The lower half of the blade directly above the tip was blunt. They had bands of silk like cloth tied to the ring at the end of the grip. They were huge, heavy and easy to throw even for a total newb like me. No idea how good they would have worked out as a knife in combat, as they were totally top heavy. But that is a kukri too. Never seen similar knifes again.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 8 ай бұрын
Niceee thank you for watching and comment 🙏
@ca1498
@ca1498 6 ай бұрын
I bet the silk cloth has the same function as fletching/feather in an arrow: it drags through the air a bit in order to prevent spinning and keep the tip straight. It allows you to use the same technique regardless of the distance.
@lonwof2105
@lonwof2105 3 ай бұрын
That's why you need a blade on both ends or in a star pattern.
@mouadip1727
@mouadip1727 8 ай бұрын
very satisfying video bravo adam for all the things u make 4 us!!be safe and stick your knives!!!!!!
@-e6195
@-e6195 Ай бұрын
I havent seen a video of this guy in years!!! I missed the “lookie that” But wtf it looks he is making the exact same video everytime lol
@EasyThere
@EasyThere 2 ай бұрын
Was a knife thrower in The Crow too. Is there a backhand throw that is effective? Have you ever taught a baseball pitcher with a 100mph fastball?
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 2 ай бұрын
Backhanded is awesome and never been teaching pro pitchers but it's my plan 😎👌
@winstonallen9590
@winstonallen9590 5 ай бұрын
It all depends on the knife thrower and how strong and accurate they are. Also how heavy the knife is. If the knife thrower uses a no spin throw at a distance of 5-7 meters then yes I do believe a knife can be fatal. Especially if the knife weighs between 220-400 grams.
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 5 ай бұрын
thank you for watching and comment :)
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