ATR 72 vs Bombardier Q400/ Dash 8: Turboprop Aircraft comparison!

This video is about the ATR 72 vs Bombardier Q400 , or ATR 72 vs Dash 8. The ATR 72-600 is the latest version of ATR 72 turboprop aircraft, and goes up against De Havilland Dash 8, which was known for a period as the Bombardier Q400. Whichever way one calls this turboprop planes comparison, Q400 vs ATR 72-600, ATR vs Dash 8, which small propeller aircraft is better? Well, stay tuned till the end of this ATR 72-600 vs Bombardier Q400 comparison to find out!

[@etops8086]

Having flown and managed flight operations for both the DHC-8-400 and the ATR-72-212A I can say that from a pilot's perspective the Q400 is the superior aircraft. The wider wheel base makes crosswind landings more stable, the added engine power is noticeable on hot days or with heavy loads, and the cruise speeds are great on longer legs. It also just feels good in how it handles, more like a Boeing (which makes sense since the original DHC-8-100 was designed in cooperation with Boeing). The Q400 is one of the best turboprop airliners in productions for climb performance and its mechanical reliability is very good, better than the ATR. Where the ATR-72 shines is when things are looked at from a business perspective. The aircraft is more efficient, its smaller seating capacity is a benefit when a regional airline is servicing less popular routes, the financing is better and it has commonality with the ATR-42 so an operator can buy both types and interchange them in the route structure without much additional pilot/mechanic/ground service training. Additionally the ATR has much better remote operations capabilities than the Q400 and works well with little or no GSE at an airport. It seems like ATR knew who made buying decisions for aircraft and modeled it for those people.

[@rickfeng4466]

Yeah unfortunately pilots and passengers don’t make the decision on which aircraft to buy. Passengers only care about the lowest fare. That’s why we cannot have good things.

[@willo996]

I can say one thing as a passenger for many years on both, the ATR is far quieter and more comfortable!!!!

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

@ETOPS808. I will wholeheartedly agree with your statement! And, as you know, there are pros & cons to ALL comparable aircraft. So to me, this video was tantamount to an advertisement for Airbus. Deceptive IMO.

[@aviationfin3456]

Ate is just better

[@GLA741]

Exaclty kinda stuff I wanted to hear. Not some guy reading off a brochure or spec sheet off Google

[@dragoonfj123]

I'm a Q400 pilot, with lots of friends that fly the ATR-72 and this video actually has incorrect information. The Q400 has 5000 HP PER ENGINE. a combined total of 10,000 HP per side. These engines are actually derated. Therefore, We also have an overtravel range allowing for another 2500HP total in emergency situations. On paper, the ATR is more efficient. However, when you account for real life factors such as climb performance, single engine service ceilings and higher cruise speeds. The Q400 is unrivaled in mountainous terrain. The ATR simply cannot fly a direct line from point A to B in mountainous terrain without hitting a side of a mountain due to its single engine performance. The Q400 can climb at over 9000ft/min in an emergency terrain advoidance climb.... In these smaller aircraft, the cost for maintenance per air time flown greatly out weighs the addition fuel burn. Even tho this video says the ATR is a better aircraft, this is simply not true. You have to compare where the places these aircraft are being operated. Dont just listen to youtubers, kids. They havent flown these planes or actually know airline operations. do your own studying and come to your own conclusions.

[@oneskyflyer]

Wilson Gao Thanks for sharing this useful information. Yes thanks for pointing out these points that I failed, I failed to acknowledge. Thanks for correcting and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@kennethcho713]

Hello fellow Qcumber driver.

[@MrTheochris]

www.pwc.ca/en/products-and-services/products/regional-aviation-engines/pw100-150 Dear friend the P&W ENGINE DOES NOT HAVE extra 2500 hp in overtravel.At 125% max horse power is 5071hp.Normal operating range is 4860hp (aproximate number It has been almost 2 years since I flew the q400)

[@paulcooper7178]

As a regular passenger on these regional planes, i prefer the q400. It feels a lot more solid to fly in. The NVH levels are far better in the Q400 in comparison to the ATR. Both feel cramped to fly in, i cant say i really noticed the additonal 15mm per passenger for the ATR.

[@MrTheochris]

@@paulcooper7178 As a pilot I enjoyed that aircraft very much(i now fly a boeing 737)I can tell you with certainty that the q400 is better in every aspect than the atr.There is pretty much no comparison between the two planes.

[@user-dn2qt2hw4x]

The Q400 flies faster and is the fastest commercial turboprop in service.

[@dmitriitherus4398]

And Tupolev 114 (if im remember right) is a fastest turboprop

[@pizzaboy5230]

@@dmitriitherus4398 Indeed! Very cool and very fast this 114! But the problem with Q400 is strange undercarriage shape. As far as I concern, harder to land, that good old ATR, but this is only my opinion.

[@Alexbenjamin0627]

I like the cool landing gear of the q400

[@samallen6478]

Bit late since all but 1 aircraft are now retired from commercial service but the Saab 2000 is faster at 685kph compared to 667kph for the dash 8.

[@samallen6478]

The only Saab 2000 is currently in service is with Air Leap, but Aleutian Airways plans to start scheduled charter flights of an aircraft in Alaska from early fall this year. So hopefully the Saab won't disappear from passenger service entirely just yet.

[@tonikpun9955]

The Dash-8 Q 400 is simply a beautiful aircraft.

[@shahrulrahim]

I was a flight operations for ATR72-500/600 at ....... Airlines (haha i saw that ATR 😅) For me ATR is a fuel efficiency and versatile aircraft. For the performance, i like more to Q400 bro. Tq for the content cheers.. 😄

[@ryandymond2195]

The Q400 (Dash 8-400) Is Better than the ATR72. It can fly farther, fly faster, and carries more passengers. I noticed a mistake in the video, the Q400 (Dash 8-400) actually does have LED lighting (I have flown the the Q400 many times on WestJet Encore and Air Canada Express so I would know this for sure)

[@Triplane1234]

That is your opinion. Not generally correct.

[@sutthipakornmeetham4146]

I used to fly on both aircraft, in Thailand Nok Air operate with Q400 / Bangkok Airways operate by ATR72 500 / 600 with different attitude which Q400 attitude at approx. 22,000 feet, ATR attitude at 16,000 feet is more sensitive with turbulence than Q400

[@oneskyflyer]

Sutthipakorn Meetham Thanks for your comment. Yep, the Q400 is a heavier aircraft thus turbulence is less profound. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@sutthipakornmeetham4146]

Eventually, Q400 is smoother than ATR depends on the attitude path, still often fly with ATR due to the convenience to the Airport & compared with Full Service / Ticket price ATR operate by Bangkok Airways still is better option!

[@rodneytravel1660]

Im glad to see our local carrier CebuPacific in ur video sir. . Looking forward i could fly CebPac ATR and Phil.Airlines Q400 aircraft on my next trip.. CebPac is our low cost budget airline which i flew sometimes via A320 and it's great experience.

[@oneskyflyer]

ATR or Q400? Which is YOUR favourite turboprop? Comment below! Thanks for watching till the end of this one and do stay tuned for more great videos, including some BRAND NEW Aviation Content such as Plane Spotting on the way!

[@alexlo7708]

I prefer MA 700.

[@fabiorafaelramos4421]

ATR...ELE ESTÁ EM REFORMA NÉ...

[@MrTheochris]

4950 hp for the ATR?I don't think so unless you mean total horsepower.The dash 8 400 has 5071 on EACH engine.I used to fly the q400 there is no comparison to the atr .The q 400 is faster more powerful and can outfly and out climb any atr..

[@oneskyflyer]

MrTheochris Yes I meant per engine. Thanks for pointing out, hoped you like this and do consider subscribing for more great detailed analysis and epic comparisons on the way!

[@kennethcho713]

You forgot to mention the faster cruising speed of the Q400 and also how the ATR struggles to climb to FL250 when fully loaded.

[@oneskyflyer]

Kenneth Cho Thanks for your comment. Yep the Q400 does indeed climb faster with more power, though ATR is more efficient. Thanks for watching and do subscribe so you will not miss out on more great videos on the way!

[@timwynn6079]

Forget 250 , youd be lucky to reach 220 on a fully loaded almost 23tons ATR, but once you did , kg/h dropped significantly once above Fl200. They are terrible at Vx.

[@eminye1]

The efficiency of the ATR, is negated in greater than ISA temps, here in the caribbean it struggles to climb and cruise speed is nowhere what they promised, it is more comparable to the older or classic dash8s, the q400 burns alot more fuel, but performance is never lacking, on short sectors you can cruise about 30kts faster than the ATr and burn almost the same fuel.

[@dannyviola5608]

Both plane The ATR and Q-400 are so great,i loved them both❤

[@davidkelly3779]

ATR is an underpowered, slow, low altitude, short sector aircraft. On 300 nm routes the Q400 will do 4 sectors to 3 in the ATR. ATR has slow turn around times, hopeless for climbing above weather and has trouble lifting a load and holding fuel for weather at the destination. The ATR has issues with short runways in hot weather, the Q400 just creams it performance wise. In Australia, an airline pitched the ATR up against another with Q400’s, the ATR lost out, and no longer flys RPT routes in Australia. The ATR also had a bad safety record in Australia. From a pilots perspective, the ATR is a dud.

[@Triplane1234]

Hey I've flown on atr like 8 times :(

[@neyalmeida5314]

Which the minimum temperature on ground, both aircraft can be dispached? Are there differences procedures to release the aicraft in colder countries especially after coldsoak ?

[@raymonileto7488]

Both birds can be seen flying in the Philippine Air Space.. *PAL Express (#PhilippineAirlines) have the Q400 *CebGo #CebuPacific), AirSwift & Sunlight Express have ATR 72 & ATR 42

[@vincentignacio8878]

PalEx Q400 is way better

[@davidtaylor351]

Aesthetically i prefer the Q300 - Q400. Overall - to me, its a more appealing design. I don't like the tail empennage, vertical stabiliser style of the ATR. The line isn't as clean. Neither, do i find the cockpit windows and nose design as pleasing. If there was a significantly compelling technical - or operational price/cost advantage. I would of course overlook these things. And go for the ATR. But there isn't. So that's my view.

[@uriblaketheriddimprotege]

Well damn that was quick!

[@oneskyflyer]

Uri Blake Thanks for your comment. Yep, thought it was a great idea so decided to send it out fast! Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@MagnarNordal]

You go the engine power wrong: The PW127 (ATR 72) delivers 2,750 SHP and the PW150 (Q400) delivers 5,000 SHP (various websites state anything from 4,850 to 5,071 SHP, but Pratt & Whitney Canada says 5,000 SHP.)

[@captarmour]

No comparison, Q400 has almost twice the power!

[@davemccarthy707]

5,071hp in the rating selection. When set to 90%. There is another 1200hp per side in emergency.

[@Apollo580]

Correct. But that 5000 SHP is when you are in overtravel power to 125%. It’s normally just over 4000 shp.

[@davemccarthy707]

@@Apollo580 Incorrect.5071SHP at rating. I did the Engineers Type course. It also changes if you have MTOP or NTOP.

[@Apollo580]

@@davemccarthy707 I flew it for 2 years but forgot that was on MTOP for that amount. thank you! It's been 4 years since I flew it.

[@trevAce350]

Am so happy I feel so amazing great vid keep up the hard work And what about a regional jet comparason like the erj vs crj or md 80 vs Boeing 717 and also the Chinese regional jet form comac

[@oneskyflyer]

Trevis Dias Thanks for your support! Hmm, would love to do those but footage for 717 and MD80 is harder to find. Will see what other regional jets that AirplaneProductions can compare in the future. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs]

The ARJ has a some service issues which hasn’t made it the most attractive aircraft, not surprising as COMAC was learning on it. The B717 is the final product from the long DC9 line and was perfection with service times 1/5th that of the DC9. The BMW/RR BR715 engine was extremely easy to service. Had Boeing invested in a supercritical wing for the B717 it would have been very competitive. They could even have made it a composite supercritical wing. Bombardier wouldn’t have dared initiate the C series, there would be no A220 and with the MAX grounded there would still be revenue from the B717X. Hindsight.

[@stanceddivinity1014]

I will never prefer an ATR to a Q400, Dash is just simply better. It has that (james may moment) "fizz" to it that no other aircraft can replicate and its just way more appealing to enthusiasts. Bombardier for the win in my eyes

[@indranimaharaj507]

I flew on an ATR. I flew Caribbean Airlines on the Trinidad-Tobago route. The aircraft was very roomy and spacious. It was almost like if you were on a larger plane. Same thing with the luggage areas. I like the simple design of this turboprop. It is very nice and basic and its easier since everything is located pretty easily. I like this aircraft so I choose the ATR.

[@truenoae8689]

How can you choose without trying both

[@gijs_k3737]

I flew on the Q400 with airBaltic and the ATR 72-500 with Norra (Finnair). When it came to comfort, i would say the Q400 was better. I am 6,5" (2 meters) tall. Which means i will be cramped on any plane for which i could not book a seat at the emergency exit. And nor the Q400 or the ATR have it. Still, on the Q400 i felt i had a lot more legroom then the ATR. On the ATR my feet were not even touching the floor because my knees were pressed hard against the seat in front me. Thank God the flight only took 15 minutes. Obviously the seat configuration is a choice of the airline, but still. When it came to noise, i would also prefer the Q400. In my opinion it was quieter, but it did shake more then the ATR.

[@oneskyflyer]

gijs _k Thanks for sharing your experience. Oh wow, thought the ATR was more spacious, yeah could be down to configuration. Anyways, thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@sheereenaali8448]

Having flown Both, Ill Admit that the ATR is Quieter.

[@karlossargeant3872]

This Video Between The ATR 72-600 & The Bombadier Q400 turboprops comparising is really Awesome Plus I only fly on there younger fleet the Q100,Q200 & Q300's no Q400's as yet but I hope too get there soon.

[@oneskyflyer]

Karlos Sargeant Thanks for your comment. Glad you liked the video! Yeah do share your experience onboard the Q400 :) In Southeast Asia region it is rare to fly these turboprops. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@dishantlalwani]

nicely explained 👍

[@arielleblond6201]

ATR is the best. It's very easy to make money with it companies say.

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Excellent video! Xièxiè, dòjeh, gamsahamnida! 💛🙏🏼

[@nigazz1000]

Greetings from Colombia South America, I like your videos.

[@oneskyflyer]

Thanks so much! Appreciate it

[@_aidid]

I love Dash-8 🛩️ ❤️🔥

[@chiragchaudhuri1948]

Given by market conditions for short regional routes the ATR fits perfectly due to its efficiency. But, i prefer the Q400 and yes it definitely needs an upgrade.

[@oneskyflyer]

Chirag Chaudhuri Thanks for your comment. Yep, the ATR is more fuel efficient, and is better overall. The Q400 is a good looking thing with higher performances, would be interesting to see updates that will make the Q400 as efficient as newer 72-600. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@TheSynecdoche]

Main question: can the new owner, the revived De Havilland of Canada< afford an upgrade? Bombardier couldn't, so why should DHC?

[@youzzername]

@@TheSynecdoche Bombardier was preoccupied with the development of the C Series, the cancelled, all-composite Lear 85 and the new Global 7500 and neglected the Q and CRJ programs for far too long. The new owners of the Dash 8 program (Longview Aviation Capital) have more money than God.

[@TheSynecdoche]

@@youzzername Nice to hear but will they spend it wisely?

[@youzzername]

I expect so. This is the same company whose other division, Viking, put the Twin Otter back into production.

[@syedputra5955]

De Havilland is now the owner of q400. Bombarded sold it to them just a few months ago for usd635mil.

[@erikwirring9446]

As far as I can see VikingAir of Vancouver now is the one building Dash-8-400: www.vikingair.com/company-careers/media-centre/longview-aviation-capital-corp-agrees-acquire-dash-8-program-bombardier

[@thecaynuck4694]

@@erikwirring9446 Yes, it is now branded under De Havilland Canada Dash 8 Q400 though now, it lost the Bombardier branding. Viking now produces it.

[@mic7504]

The post is really a child bragging about something cool their parent is now doing . Pepsi owns both Pizza Hut and KFC but you can't get a pizza in a KFC and vice versa. Longview Aviation is Pepsi in this situation. DeHavilland Air and Viking are separate companies owned by Longview.

[@mic7504]

@@thecaynuck4694 Viking has a lot on its plate with Twin Otter 400s orders still going strong and the first of the Viking Canadair CL-515 water bombers due in just two years. With hints of an electric Beaver and a possibly relaunch of the Buffalo line also being whispered I doubt Viking Air will ever be involved with Dash 8 Q400 (Although thy might be the supplier of parts for the older Dash 8 line..I'm not sure).

[@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs]

The Q400 has a much higher power to weight ratio meaning it has a very high cruise speed and climb. It tries to compete with jets. The ATR does not try to compete with jets, it focuses on traditional turboprop virtues of STOL and low fuel burn.

[@oneskyflyer]

William Jones-Halibut Thanks for your comment. Absolutely so, the ATR is simply the better turboprop as such, though the Q400 has more performance. Do tune in to the channel for more incredible videos on the way!

[@thecaynuck4694]

Q400 has better STOL performance and is better in colder climates. More versatile.

[@shajith2934]

@@thecaynuck4694 Now, ATR 42/72 -600 series is better in cold climate too... The ATR aircraft now flies in Scandinavian, Canada, New Zealand, etc. ATR is safer now in icing conditions.

[@thecaynuck4694]

@@shajith2934 Q400 is the go to for most of those countries. Q400 has never crashed due to icing conditions and is one of the most versatile planes. There's been numerous cases in which ATR's have crashed and had hull-losses. That said, it has gotten better, but typically ATR is more perfect for tropical climates. Think of Air Canada, Porter, WestJet, Wideroe, Qantas having Q400's, it just suits the conditions. In Canada here, there's only really a couple small airlines like Pierre Miquelon's airline (which is actually a French territory), and FirstAir.

[@thecaynuck4694]

@@shajith2934 Oh by the way, New Zealand had both Dash 8's and ATRs. The Dash 8's they have are the Q300.

[@taitplayz8923]

Thank you Wilson so is the q400 the best? Because I really like the q400.

[@thomaskwok1531]

Personally I prefer Q400 , reliable and better range .

[@oneskyflyer]

Thomas Kwok Thanks for your comment. Oh wow, yeah dispatch reliability is important for these turboprops. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@breadboi1248]

And because it's Canadian

[@breadboi1248]

@MILOSH JOVANOVIC Q400 is better

[@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214]

MILOSH JOVANOVIC Q400 is far better

[@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214]

MILOSH JOVANOVIC yea, if you like atr, that’s fine, I think that the q400 is better but I digress

[@zyp2713]

Thanks for including CP (Cebu pacific)

[@christophercddelrosariocoish]

I like the Q400, they are my favourites, I’ve been in them a lot when Porter came out, can you compare the A380 and 747?

[@mickycarter2365]

As a passenger I have flown on both and I just feel more comfortable on the Q400

[@merc340sr]

I suspect that they are both great planes...by the sounds of it, it looks like ATR competes mostly on initial cost. Otherwise, they are more or less the same in their ability to service short distance, short runway and small passenger load destinations...

[@sorin_ea6]

Never flew either turboprop sadly, although I might fly either the ATR 42 or 72 soon

[@saifanibnetanbir6144]

i mostly flew on bombardiers whenever going to domestic destinations in Bangladesh i think both aircrafts are good idk which one to pick

[@wilsommoalim]

how much yearly cost and monthly cost q400 or ARj21

[@mahootissherlockis2055]

Q400 is my favourite plane, but unfortunately it needs to be updated to stay competitive with the atr

[@oneskyflyer]

Mahootis Sherlockis Thanks for your comment. Absolutely so, the design is getting on a little bit. Hopefully, the new owners of the Bombardier Q400 will continue to satisfy market demands and Lower costs with new technologies from airlines. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@vidinugroho3768]

Never fly with Q400, since as far as i know, there's no operator in indonesia who operate this plane. But i did several times fly with atr72 mostly to go in or out my jobsite. Its true the cabin is set for short flight, since there is just typical cabin plane, and based in my experience, i feel not comfy to fly with this plane not only the seat width is pretty narrow even for guy like who only have 170cm in height, its also the plane is feel like having turbulance when go into clouds. But for 1 hour flight i think still acceptable to fly with atr72. Looking forward to on board of Q400.

[@mackdeligeromartinez]

SAAB 2000 is also a unique design

[@davidharris2519]

like the Q-400 better and doesnt the 72 have a bad reputation in icing conditions

[@sagmilling]

Maybe in the past, but there are now ATR 72s flying in the Canadian arctic with Summit Air (among others). I think the Canadian arctic might qualify for icing conditions? :-)

[@juancarlos1420]

I dont trust ATR in Icing conditionsé Bombardier is a Snow Horse.

[@gugaprado3520]

here in Brazil when are opening the atr 72-600 is azul airlines Brazilian, your reputation here is favorable

[@dyer2cycle]

...I'm an admitted novice, but I am bewildered at how small(tiny even) the wings are on modern aircraft..how on earth do they produce enough lift?...yes, I know about flaps, slats, spoilers, etc., etc., but even so, they look so small!..during WW2, the B-24 Liberator was criticized because of it's narrow wing..B-26 Marauder because of it's small, short wing(No Visible Means Of Support, etc.)...well, they look huge in the relation to the rest of the aircraft compared to these modern airliners/cargo planes, both turboprop and jet...huge, heavy-looking fuselages with tiny little wings...amazed how those thin, narrow, and often even short, wings ever hold them up....

[@paulfife4683]

how much weight can the atr carry compared to the q400

[@jpdurr]

Why didn't you compare ETOPS ?????? There is a big difference there!

[@thecaynuck4694]

Well they both aren't built to travel Transatlantic or Transpacific, but I saw somewhere (Simple Flying) that the Q400 lasts longer with one engine.

[@auki010]

Nice 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@tumakbaluk]

As a fair comparison the Dash 8-300 should have been looked at. As the -300 and ATR-72 have similar passenger capacity, and they share the same engines. Note: your quote of 90 passengers for the Dash 8-400 is for a proposed variation and the typical amount of seats installed is 78.

[@mic7504]

SPICE Jet in India has flown a 90 seat Dash 8-Q400 since 2018.

[@DanaTobin-fm3wm]

Although I have not flown the ATR-72, I really like the performance of the Dash -8. Neither plane is good for engine loss.... especially both engine flame out. It glides like a bird with no wings, if you get my drift.

[@Pz349]

I love atr72 because it looks nice and cheaper than q400. only q200 looks nice in dash 8 family

[@pilotsam004]

Sorry I was in school...... Yes its opened in England I wanna go back to my home country which is on lock down 😢 ( Slovakia)

[@oneskyflyer]

pilot sam 004 Oh, bless you and take care given the current COVID 19 situation. Here in Southeast Asia things are not exactly favourable either, though Aviation is the one to take a huge impact. Anyways, wishing you good health :) Thanks for watching

[@pilotsam004]

@@oneskyflyer thx I'm wishing you good luck and stay safe. Hopefully you can still manage to mak ethis amazing content.

[@lupuuu111]

I want the next one to be Mitsubishi spacejet vs embraer 175 e2

[@bidithranjandeb1775]

Man The Q400 Was The First Ever Aircraft I Flew On When I Was 4 Way Back In 2014 Or 2015. I've Rode On The ATR 72-500 and 600 And The Flights Were Good And I've Rode On Them More Than The Q400 But I Think I Like The Q400 Better. The Experiences On Them Were Really Good And Smooth. I Live In Bangladesh And Just Last Month I Went To Cox's Bazar Which Is The Longest Sea Beach And Largest Marine Drive Road In The Entire World. We Went There With A Q400(Cox's Bazar Airport Is Kinda Ugly Tho But It's Domestic Airport So I'm Not Complaining. There Are No Conveyor Belts To Take Luggage. I Live In Sylhet And It Has Its Own International Airport. That Flight Was Good. The Landing Was Butter. I Dunno A Whole Lot About Planes But I Like The Q400 Way Better.

[@guggyman1]

Why would you not mention that the Q400 cruises 30% faster than the ATR? This makes it possible to make more trips per day, meaning more income. Add this to the 15% more passengers, you do have the upper hand of the ATR. I am no Q400 fanboy, but i feel you failed to mention the Q400's strength, the speed. The Q400 has knocked regional jets away from several routes because of this, and better fuel-ecobomy. If i am wrong, i am happily corrected!

[@TheSynecdoche]

Problem is, for most of the operators in this turboprop niche speed is not essential. They do short hops, often from island to island, and they don't carry a full load of passengers most of the time, so fuel efficiency is far more important. It is not on a whim that ATR are working on a 42 model for shorter runways, to serve even smaller airports. They see an opportunity for more business. Bombardier were/is too small to keep up, which is a pity as generally they made very good planes (CSeries >> A220).

[@youzzername]

You are not wrong. The Q400 is the more versatile one. An operator can substitute a Q400 for a jet to match capacity without affecting route scheduling, due to its speed.

[@guggyman1]

youzzername Very good point, Widerøe here in Norway does that with their longer routes. Routes like Bergen - Bodø is serviced both by the Q400, and the Embraer E190 E2.

[@bobdalah8374]

Good analyse, ATR72 has more success because ATR company continue developping the aircraft to be more efficent and now ATR72 is the best choice and alone in the market!

[@bijaysitaula7006]

Is Q 300 is still in production.

[@jlj3856]

I prefer the ATR, but I understand why the Q400 would be more appealing to some, being based in guernsey, I understand why our airline flies the ATR more efficient, no mountains, and not a massive demand. Plus I think it’s better looking

[@omnitraveller]

As a passenger I get upset whenever I have to fly on either of them tbh. Loud, crowded and slow. I get that airlines want to save fuel, but flying on the CRJ is heaven compared to the turboprops. It is so quiet due to the engines being in the back, it's like gliding into the air.

[@samsara269]

Q400 is more beautiful and comfortable to fly with

[@websurfin9575]

The ATR-72 has a DEICING-BOOT problem on the wings that has caused many fatalities over the years! That should have been noted here in this video! I've never heard of that problem with the Q-400! And (in warm-weather months) I have flown on numerous ATR-72 aircraft & had a good experience on all of them. I would NOT fly on 1 of them during winter months though! I am looking forward to my 1st experience flying on the Q-400 airliner!

[@Red-qk7hv]

Sure Icing was the early problem for the ATR but Q400 still has more hull loses than the ATR with 31 and does have more incidents with 80

[@websurfin9575]

@@Red-qk7hv What was the hull-loss cause?

[@Pz349]

Icing problem also find on CRJ

[@websurfin9575]

@@Pz349 What?! Icing issues are also on the CRJ fan-jet aircraft?! I didn't know that! I knew that the ATR-42 & ATR-72 aircraft had icing issues in the past until redesigned deicing-boots were installed.

[@mikeflyer2059]

in hot days fully loaded the ATR has a Rate of climb of 500ft/mn god ! And it levels at FL 130 for example like a Cessna 172 lol , the Q400 is the best turboprop in the world with amazin performances and systems very confortable for passengers also !

[@richardcarr6493]

From a passenger point of view the dash 8 sux for passengers comfort!! If ATR is more efficient overall along with better passenger comfort then it gets My Vote

[@nuclearnyanboi]

As a passanger, I fing the q400 to be more comfy

[@victimovtalent6036]

What is similarity between turboprop and jet engine?

[@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214]

For a turboprop, a jet engine drives the propeller just like a turbofan.

[@thecaynuck4694]

Turboprops are jet engines with a propeller attached, and those make it more efficient on certain routes.

[@calebgarcia4557]

I prefer Dash8/Q400. I think Bombardier is the best.

[@taytay1336]

I personally like the q400 for some odd reason I hate the changes being made in the aviation Industry I still wish we had the roaring md80 all of the turboprops ect

[@stuguy2]

Q 400...more power, more range, better mission capabilities, global support and last but not least it's a pilots aircraft. Bad APU!

[@billp9921]

The Q400 has been put out of business by ATR. That should say everything!Bombardier sold tbe Q400 to Viking Aircraft. Viking shut down production of the Q400 with no plans to restart it.

[@seminolegonzalezairlines7757]

We fly the Q400, and used to fly the ATR72, the Q400 is better, and we have some higher performance models coming.

[@oneskyflyer]

Seminole Gonzalez Airlines Thanks for your comment. Yeah the ATR does seem to lack performance, but is more efficient. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@seminolegonzalezairlines7757]

AirplaneProductions I will also add that our high performance version of the Q400 is way more efficient than the ATR72, with the Q400HP (the afore mentioned high performance Q400) burning only 1.56 gallons per seat per 100nm.

[@uriblaketheriddimprotege]

I love Q400, but for more effiecent commuter turboprop ATR is the better choice. Q400 is basically a turboprop wanting to be a jet while ATR is a purebred turboprop.

[@oneskyflyer]

Uri Blake Thanks for your comment. Yep perfectly summed up :) The ATR is more efficient but Q400 has more performance similar to small regional jets. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@davidward3091]

Q400 is way too versatile and has made some jets obsolete in the airline industry. High speed high performance big payload cheap on gas. Both planes are studly but The q is still just better in my opinion. You didn't analyze pilot experience and the HUD is a huge addon to the Q

[@Pz349]

@@davidward3091 Q400 is expensive

[@abymercyshaji]

I don't had a chance to travel with ATR, i had flown on Q400 few times. That was not a good experience for me. All of them was budget air (airbaltic, SpiceJet.... ) and legroom is terrible and was very bumby

[@oneskyflyer]

Aby M'plackal Thanks for your comment. Yep, turboprops aren’t exactly the most comfortable, but are the cheapest to operate. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@Altenholz]

I would say that legroom is terrible almost everywhere, no matter which airline or aircraft you are flying with!

[@thecaynuck4694]

@@Altenholz Not really. The legroom on more well known airline operating planes like the Q400 is actually quite good. Heck, I find legroom better on a Q400 than 737 and A320!

[@bne7770]

God, you're voice is KILLING me!

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

I'll take the Q-400 any day over the ATR. I've flown in both. Love the Q-400.

[@oscarkastor7718]

ATR for the win💪🏻😍

[@stuartlee6622]

The Electra was the best prop-jet.

[@pizzaboy5230]

Very useful. Thank you! Finally somebody admits that ATR-72 is a very good plane!

[@geovanegomesdacunha3233]

Sou fã da aviação e aqui no Brasil as empresa no medelo de vôo regional com modelo de avião turbuelice o ATR que ganha disparado entres as empresa no Brasil.

[@Jay-hr3rh]

The nose off the ATR looks like the Airbus three hundred series.

[@oneskyflyer]

John Yep it does. Kind of a bit of an A320? Thanks for tuning in and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@_aidid]

😂

[@khatrinim4149]

Well, Operators prefer ATR 72, but any passenger would choose Q400 over ATR 72

[@pekertimulia125]

I just wondering what if propellar was to be ..

[@alexlo7708]

I heard ATR aren't allowed to fly in northern America or hemisphere which ice can cause accumulated on wing.

[@vincentlemay8491]

ATR are allowed to fly anywhere any NA but they're not as popular as the Q400. The rate of ice accumulation, called the rate of ice accretion, is no different from any other wings. What makes the ATR so unpopular in NA is the lack of thrust wich can cause the plane to stall much faster than the Q400 if there was formation of icing on the wings.

[@alexlo7708]

@@vincentlemay8491 I watched from TV documentary ATR crashed from icy wing in many accidents in North America till NTSB prohibit it to fly in northern hemisphere. They said rubber inflated de-icing in which ATR'd used failed to curtail icing on wing.

[@stianmathisen4284]

@@vincentlemay8491 That proves the security point, doesn`t it?

[@Joju_8699]

Wow they show the Philippines atr(cebu pacific)

[@pekertimulia125]

Nailed..

[@stuartlee6622]

After they fixed the whirlmode issue.

[@IFHD350]

What does this mean given one of the companies behind the ATR project is none other than Airbus? Does this mean that Airbus is helping ATR or what.

[@oneskyflyer]

IF HD Thanks for your comment. ATR is 50% owned by Airbus, that was what I meant. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@MagnarNordal]

Not only is Airbus a co-owner of ATR, but the ATR 72 has adopted avionics and controls (pushbuttons and switches) from various Airbus models. An ATR pilot will easily feel at home in an Airbus cockpit.

[@TheSynecdoche]

Of course. Shared technical development, shared avionics, shared training facilities, and if ATR needs funds for expansion Airbus will gladly assist. There are a great number of commercial turboprops to be replaced over the next decade, and ATR has hardly any competitors.

[@oneskyflyer]

Frits Burghardt Thanks for your comment. Yep, being backed by Airbus gives ATR a huge advantage. Hopefully, they will continue to develop revolutionary new airplanes in the future. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@Leptospirosi]

@@oneskyflyer well, like the other 50% being Leonardo could be worthless... >__>

[@ciudad-del-mar]

The ATR is much better for inter-island flights...airlines such as Binter Canarias, Blue Islands & Aurigny would be nowhere without them.

[@infiniteforces8410]

Dash 8 💓

[@ZC_Offcials]

Well the ATR-72 is a dangerous aircraft

[@shajith2934]

ATR 42/72 -600 series are one of the most safest aircraft and can fly in any condition, hot, cold climate etc. ATR improved it's aircraft after icing issues and now they are the safest and most popular turboprops and most economical & fuel efficient too!

[@aliasgarsadekaly1183]

Sorry but sppeed isn t a way to define wich aircraft is better even altitude

[@aliasgarsadekaly1183]

And also he said many things to prove the difference between the two aircaft and q 400 is better in speed and higher altitudes and more people but the atr is more confortable and give access to a more beautifull view and he said also that atr is more fuel efficient and even that q 400 is more powerfull the atr is more efficient and that not say that he isn t powerfull.

[@jsitraveltv7710]

I love this plane I recently flew a brand new one the video is in my channel

[@Arpit00018]

IVE FLOWN IN Q400 THIS LIL THING TOOK ME FROM NEPAL TO DUBAI IN 4HOURS

[@nabinkoirala5813]

I believe Q-400 is safer, quiter, comfortable, faster, economical aircraft compared to ATR 600.

[@GabrielsGallery]

Yes cebu pacific my home country airline

[@pilot_bruh576]

The thing I don't like from the atr is that it looks intensely cursed

[@aeronotasa.s.a.2938]

RIVALES: (KODIAK 100 VS CESSNA 208B) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKO0iKx9obN8pM0

[@mnoei8705]

ATR is odd looking, but Q400 looks very sexy

[@Pz349]

Q400 is too long and Q100 looks best

[@chingweixion621]

Naturally the ATR will be better as it is a significantly younger airframe. Nonetheless for turboprop, their engine efficiency is nearing the peak and you will no longer see any significant improvements in the coming years. The only likelihood is the how the turboprop airframe will grow to incorporate a hybrid engine or an fully electric ones.

[@oneskyflyer]

Ching Wei Xion Thanks for your comment. Yep, though Airbus is working on some electric regional aircraft, and they may roll out the new technology on their ATR platform. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@johnnyboythepilot4098]

Actually, the ATR is only "newer" than the Dash-8 by a year. Both were developed & first flown in the early 80's.

[@oneskyflyer]

JohnnyBoythePilot Thanks for your comment. Yes both were developed then but the -600 was a new version launched in 2000s, while Q400 hasn’t been updated since. Thus, ATR has newer technologies. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!

[@chrismckellar9350]

I agree with you. That is why Air NZ is the 3rd largest operator of the ATR72-600, as it very economical on New Zealand regional routes

[@chingweixion621]

@@chrismckellar9350 makes me wonder why malaysia and Indonesia doesn't operate more turboprop. These countries has tons of low demand short haul routes which would be better to make 2 trips on the ATR vs 1 trip on B737-800

[@Abdiyaretube]

Can someone please tell me the price of Q400

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Did you even watch the video? They said US$35 million list price.

[@bso_av]

Um the atr 72 on my flight is much longer than the q400. Plus.. Cebgo or Cebu Pacific is my flight LAST year not today cuz of covid

[@hocinemelasuo5508]

I love Both but i think the atr is better

[@pizzaboy5230]

To everybody short addendum from my side: 1. Crosswind landings from ATR72 and Q400 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooGWZoiCipt8mbM (I'D FEEL BETTER IN ATR72). Takeoff climbing performance of ATR72 adn Q400 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r33JlZ-Dprhogsk (I SEE NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER). My personal choice: ATR72!

[@9Y-MSBAviation]

same