Having flown and managed flight operations for both the DHC-8-400 and the ATR-72-212A I can say that from a pilot's perspective the Q400 is the superior aircraft. The wider wheel base makes crosswind landings more stable, the added engine power is noticeable on hot days or with heavy loads, and the cruise speeds are great on longer legs. It also just feels good in how it handles, more like a Boeing (which makes sense since the original DHC-8-100 was designed in cooperation with Boeing). The Q400 is one of the best turboprop airliners in productions for climb performance and its mechanical reliability is very good, better than the ATR. Where the ATR-72 shines is when things are looked at from a business perspective. The aircraft is more efficient, its smaller seating capacity is a benefit when a regional airline is servicing less popular routes, the financing is better and it has commonality with the ATR-42 so an operator can buy both types and interchange them in the route structure without much additional pilot/mechanic/ground service training. Additionally the ATR has much better remote operations capabilities than the Q400 and works well with little or no GSE at an airport. It seems like ATR knew who made buying decisions for aircraft and modeled it for those people.
@rickfeng44663 жыл бұрын
Yeah unfortunately pilots and passengers don’t make the decision on which aircraft to buy. Passengers only care about the lowest fare. That’s why we cannot have good things.
@willo9962 жыл бұрын
I can say one thing as a passenger for many years on both, the ATR is far quieter and more comfortable!!!!
@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt2 жыл бұрын
@ETOPS808. I will wholeheartedly agree with your statement! And, as you know, there are pros & cons to ALL comparable aircraft. So to me, this video was tantamount to an advertisement for Airbus. Deceptive IMO.
@aviationfin3456 Жыл бұрын
Ate is just better
@GLA741 Жыл бұрын
Exaclty kinda stuff I wanted to hear. Not some guy reading off a brochure or spec sheet off Google
@dragoonfj1234 жыл бұрын
I'm a Q400 pilot, with lots of friends that fly the ATR-72 and this video actually has incorrect information. The Q400 has 5000 HP PER ENGINE. a combined total of 10,000 HP per side. These engines are actually derated. Therefore, We also have an overtravel range allowing for another 2500HP total in emergency situations. On paper, the ATR is more efficient. However, when you account for real life factors such as climb performance, single engine service ceilings and higher cruise speeds. The Q400 is unrivaled in mountainous terrain. The ATR simply cannot fly a direct line from point A to B in mountainous terrain without hitting a side of a mountain due to its single engine performance. The Q400 can climb at over 9000ft/min in an emergency terrain advoidance climb.... In these smaller aircraft, the cost for maintenance per air time flown greatly out weighs the addition fuel burn. Even tho this video says the ATR is a better aircraft, this is simply not true. You have to compare where the places these aircraft are being operated. Dont just listen to youtubers, kids. They havent flown these planes or actually know airline operations. do your own studying and come to your own conclusions.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Wilson Gao Thanks for sharing this useful information. Yes thanks for pointing out these points that I failed, I failed to acknowledge. Thanks for correcting and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@kennethcho7134 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow Qcumber driver.
@MrTheochris4 жыл бұрын
www.pwc.ca/en/products-and-services/products/regional-aviation-engines/pw100-150 Dear friend the P&W ENGINE DOES NOT HAVE extra 2500 hp in overtravel.At 125% max horse power is 5071hp.Normal operating range is 4860hp (aproximate number It has been almost 2 years since I flew the q400)
@paulcooper71784 жыл бұрын
As a regular passenger on these regional planes, i prefer the q400. It feels a lot more solid to fly in. The NVH levels are far better in the Q400 in comparison to the ATR. Both feel cramped to fly in, i cant say i really noticed the additonal 15mm per passenger for the ATR.
@MrTheochris4 жыл бұрын
@@paulcooper7178 As a pilot I enjoyed that aircraft very much(i now fly a boeing 737)I can tell you with certainty that the q400 is better in every aspect than the atr.There is pretty much no comparison between the two planes.
@杜威漢4 жыл бұрын
The Q400 flies faster and is the fastest commercial turboprop in service.
@dmitriitherus43984 жыл бұрын
And Tupolev 114 (if im remember right) is a fastest turboprop
@pizzaboy52304 жыл бұрын
@@dmitriitherus4398 Indeed! Very cool and very fast this 114! But the problem with Q400 is strange undercarriage shape. As far as I concern, harder to land, that good old ATR, but this is only my opinion.
@Alexbenjamin06273 жыл бұрын
I like the cool landing gear of the q400
@samallen64783 жыл бұрын
Bit late since all but 1 aircraft are now retired from commercial service but the Saab 2000 is faster at 685kph compared to 667kph for the dash 8.
@samallen64783 жыл бұрын
The only Saab 2000 is currently in service is with Air Leap, but Aleutian Airways plans to start scheduled charter flights of an aircraft in Alaska from early fall this year. So hopefully the Saab won't disappear from passenger service entirely just yet.
@ryandymond21953 жыл бұрын
The Q400 (Dash 8-400) Is Better than the ATR72. It can fly farther, fly faster, and carries more passengers. I noticed a mistake in the video, the Q400 (Dash 8-400) actually does have LED lighting (I have flown the the Q400 many times on WestJet Encore and Air Canada Express so I would know this for sure)
@Triplane1234 Жыл бұрын
That is your opinion. Not generally correct.
@tonikpun99552 жыл бұрын
The Dash-8 Q 400 is simply a beautiful aircraft.
@sutthipakornmeetham41464 жыл бұрын
I used to fly on both aircraft, in Thailand Nok Air operate with Q400 / Bangkok Airways operate by ATR72 500 / 600 with different attitude which Q400 attitude at approx. 22,000 feet, ATR attitude at 16,000 feet is more sensitive with turbulence than Q400
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Sutthipakorn Meetham Thanks for your comment. Yep, the Q400 is a heavier aircraft thus turbulence is less profound. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@sutthipakornmeetham41464 жыл бұрын
Eventually, Q400 is smoother than ATR depends on the attitude path, still often fly with ATR due to the convenience to the Airport & compared with Full Service / Ticket price ATR operate by Bangkok Airways still is better option!
@shahrulrahim4 жыл бұрын
I was a flight operations for ATR72-500/600 at ....... Airlines (haha i saw that ATR 😅) For me ATR is a fuel efficiency and versatile aircraft. For the performance, i like more to Q400 bro. Tq for the content cheers.. 😄
@oConnor1000 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Colombia South America, I like your videos.
@oneskyflyer Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Appreciate it
@arielleblond62012 жыл бұрын
ATR is the best. It's very easy to make money with it companies say.
@indranimaharaj507 Жыл бұрын
I flew on an ATR. I flew Caribbean Airlines on the Trinidad-Tobago route. The aircraft was very roomy and spacious. It was almost like if you were on a larger plane. Same thing with the luggage areas. I like the simple design of this turboprop. It is very nice and basic and its easier since everything is located pretty easily. I like this aircraft so I choose the ATR.
@truenoae868911 ай бұрын
How can you choose without trying both
@MrTheochris4 жыл бұрын
4950 hp for the ATR?I don't think so unless you mean total horsepower.The dash 8 400 has 5071 on EACH engine.I used to fly the q400 there is no comparison to the atr .The q 400 is faster more powerful and can outfly and out climb any atr..
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
MrTheochris Yes I meant per engine. Thanks for pointing out, hoped you like this and do consider subscribing for more great detailed analysis and epic comparisons on the way!
@raymonileto74884 жыл бұрын
Both birds can be seen flying in the Philippine Air Space.. *PAL Express (#PhilippineAirlines) have the Q400 *CebGo #CebuPacific), AirSwift & Sunlight Express have ATR 72 & ATR 42
@vincentignacio88784 жыл бұрын
PalEx Q400 is way better
@davidtaylor3514 жыл бұрын
Aesthetically i prefer the Q300 - Q400. Overall - to me, its a more appealing design. I don't like the tail empennage, vertical stabiliser style of the ATR. The line isn't as clean. Neither, do i find the cockpit windows and nose design as pleasing. If there was a significantly compelling technical - or operational price/cost advantage. I would of course overlook these things. And go for the ATR. But there isn't. So that's my view.
@gijs_k37374 жыл бұрын
I flew on the Q400 with airBaltic and the ATR 72-500 with Norra (Finnair). When it came to comfort, i would say the Q400 was better. I am 6,5" (2 meters) tall. Which means i will be cramped on any plane for which i could not book a seat at the emergency exit. And nor the Q400 or the ATR have it. Still, on the Q400 i felt i had a lot more legroom then the ATR. On the ATR my feet were not even touching the floor because my knees were pressed hard against the seat in front me. Thank God the flight only took 15 minutes. Obviously the seat configuration is a choice of the airline, but still. When it came to noise, i would also prefer the Q400. In my opinion it was quieter, but it did shake more then the ATR.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
gijs _k Thanks for sharing your experience. Oh wow, thought the ATR was more spacious, yeah could be down to configuration. Anyways, thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@sheereenaali84483 жыл бұрын
Having flown Both, Ill Admit that the ATR is Quieter.
@stanceddivinity10144 жыл бұрын
I will never prefer an ATR to a Q400, Dash is just simply better. It has that (james may moment) "fizz" to it that no other aircraft can replicate and its just way more appealing to enthusiasts. Bombardier for the win in my eyes
@chiragchaudhuri19484 жыл бұрын
Given by market conditions for short regional routes the ATR fits perfectly due to its efficiency. But, i prefer the Q400 and yes it definitely needs an upgrade.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Chirag Chaudhuri Thanks for your comment. Yep, the ATR is more fuel efficient, and is better overall. The Q400 is a good looking thing with higher performances, would be interesting to see updates that will make the Q400 as efficient as newer 72-600. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@TheSynecdoche4 жыл бұрын
Main question: can the new owner, the revived De Havilland of Canada< afford an upgrade? Bombardier couldn't, so why should DHC?
@youzzername4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSynecdoche Bombardier was preoccupied with the development of the C Series, the cancelled, all-composite Lear 85 and the new Global 7500 and neglected the Q and CRJ programs for far too long. The new owners of the Dash 8 program (Longview Aviation Capital) have more money than God.
@TheSynecdoche4 жыл бұрын
@@youzzername Nice to hear but will they spend it wisely?
@youzzername4 жыл бұрын
I expect so. This is the same company whose other division, Viking, put the Twin Otter back into production.
@kennethcho7134 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the faster cruising speed of the Q400 and also how the ATR struggles to climb to FL250 when fully loaded.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Cho Thanks for your comment. Yep the Q400 does indeed climb faster with more power, though ATR is more efficient. Thanks for watching and do subscribe so you will not miss out on more great videos on the way!
@timwynn60794 жыл бұрын
Forget 250 , youd be lucky to reach 220 on a fully loaded almost 23tons ATR, but once you did , kg/h dropped significantly once above Fl200. They are terrible at Vx.
@eminye14 жыл бұрын
The efficiency of the ATR, is negated in greater than ISA temps, here in the caribbean it struggles to climb and cruise speed is nowhere what they promised, it is more comparable to the older or classic dash8s, the q400 burns alot more fuel, but performance is never lacking, on short sectors you can cruise about 30kts faster than the ATr and burn almost the same fuel.
@dannyviola56089 ай бұрын
Both plane The ATR and Q-400 are so great,i loved them both❤
@rodneytravel16603 жыл бұрын
Im glad to see our local carrier CebuPacific in ur video sir. . Looking forward i could fly CebPac ATR and Phil.Airlines Q400 aircraft on my next trip.. CebPac is our low cost budget airline which i flew sometimes via A320 and it's great experience.
@_aidid4 жыл бұрын
I love Dash-8 🛩️ ❤️🔥
@MagnarNordal4 жыл бұрын
You go the engine power wrong: The PW127 (ATR 72) delivers 2,750 SHP and the PW150 (Q400) delivers 5,000 SHP (various websites state anything from 4,850 to 5,071 SHP, but Pratt & Whitney Canada says 5,000 SHP.)
@captarmour4 жыл бұрын
No comparison, Q400 has almost twice the power!
@davemccarthy7072 жыл бұрын
5,071hp in the rating selection. When set to 90%. There is another 1200hp per side in emergency.
@Apollo5802 жыл бұрын
Correct. But that 5000 SHP is when you are in overtravel power to 125%. It’s normally just over 4000 shp.
@davemccarthy7072 жыл бұрын
@@Apollo580 Incorrect.5071SHP at rating. I did the Engineers Type course. It also changes if you have MTOP or NTOP.
@Apollo5802 жыл бұрын
@@davemccarthy707 I flew it for 2 years but forgot that was on MTOP for that amount. thank you! It's been 4 years since I flew it.
@Glen.Danielsen2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Xièxiè, dòjeh, gamsahamnida! 💛🙏🏼
@mickycarter23654 жыл бұрын
As a passenger I have flown on both and I just feel more comfortable on the Q400
@syedputra59554 жыл бұрын
De Havilland is now the owner of q400. Bombarded sold it to them just a few months ago for usd635mil.
@erikwirring94464 жыл бұрын
As far as I can see VikingAir of Vancouver now is the one building Dash-8-400: www.vikingair.com/company-careers/media-centre/longview-aviation-capital-corp-agrees-acquire-dash-8-program-bombardier
@thecaynuck46944 жыл бұрын
@@erikwirring9446 Yes, it is now branded under De Havilland Canada Dash 8 Q400 though now, it lost the Bombardier branding. Viking now produces it.
@mic75043 жыл бұрын
The post is really a child bragging about something cool their parent is now doing . Pepsi owns both Pizza Hut and KFC but you can't get a pizza in a KFC and vice versa. Longview Aviation is Pepsi in this situation. DeHavilland Air and Viking are separate companies owned by Longview.
@mic75043 жыл бұрын
@@thecaynuck4694 Viking has a lot on its plate with Twin Otter 400s orders still going strong and the first of the Viking Canadair CL-515 water bombers due in just two years. With hints of an electric Beaver and a possibly relaunch of the Buffalo line also being whispered I doubt Viking Air will ever be involved with Dash 8 Q400 (Although thy might be the supplier of parts for the older Dash 8 line..I'm not sure).
@neyalmeida53142 жыл бұрын
Which the minimum temperature on ground, both aircraft can be dispached? Are there differences procedures to release the aicraft in colder countries especially after coldsoak ?
@mikeflyer20594 жыл бұрын
in hot days fully loaded the ATR has a Rate of climb of 500ft/mn god ! And it levels at FL 130 for example like a Cessna 172 lol , the Q400 is the best turboprop in the world with amazin performances and systems very confortable for passengers also !
@bne77703 жыл бұрын
God, you're voice is KILLING me!
@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs4 жыл бұрын
The Q400 has a much higher power to weight ratio meaning it has a very high cruise speed and climb. It tries to compete with jets. The ATR does not try to compete with jets, it focuses on traditional turboprop virtues of STOL and low fuel burn.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
William Jones-Halibut Thanks for your comment. Absolutely so, the ATR is simply the better turboprop as such, though the Q400 has more performance. Do tune in to the channel for more incredible videos on the way!
@thecaynuck46944 жыл бұрын
Q400 has better STOL performance and is better in colder climates. More versatile.
@shajith29344 жыл бұрын
@@thecaynuck4694 Now, ATR 42/72 -600 series is better in cold climate too... The ATR aircraft now flies in Scandinavian, Canada, New Zealand, etc. ATR is safer now in icing conditions.
@thecaynuck46944 жыл бұрын
@@shajith2934 Q400 is the go to for most of those countries. Q400 has never crashed due to icing conditions and is one of the most versatile planes. There's been numerous cases in which ATR's have crashed and had hull-losses. That said, it has gotten better, but typically ATR is more perfect for tropical climates. Think of Air Canada, Porter, WestJet, Wideroe, Qantas having Q400's, it just suits the conditions. In Canada here, there's only really a couple small airlines like Pierre Miquelon's airline (which is actually a French territory), and FirstAir.
@thecaynuck46944 жыл бұрын
@@shajith2934 Oh by the way, New Zealand had both Dash 8's and ATRs. The Dash 8's they have are the Q300.
@Aiz.maldives4 ай бұрын
#dash 8 and ATR 72
@thomaskwok15314 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer Q400 , reliable and better range .
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Kwok Thanks for your comment. Oh wow, yeah dispatch reliability is important for these turboprops. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@breadboi12484 жыл бұрын
And because it's Canadian
@breadboi12484 жыл бұрын
@MILOSH JOVANOVIC Q400 is better
@xenomorphbiologist-xx12144 жыл бұрын
MILOSH JOVANOVIC Q400 is far better
@xenomorphbiologist-xx12144 жыл бұрын
MILOSH JOVANOVIC yea, if you like atr, that’s fine, I think that the q400 is better but I digress
@mahootissherlockis20554 жыл бұрын
Q400 is my favourite plane, but unfortunately it needs to be updated to stay competitive with the atr
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Mahootis Sherlockis Thanks for your comment. Absolutely so, the design is getting on a little bit. Hopefully, the new owners of the Bombardier Q400 will continue to satisfy market demands and Lower costs with new technologies from airlines. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@trevAce3504 жыл бұрын
Am so happy I feel so amazing great vid keep up the hard work And what about a regional jet comparason like the erj vs crj or md 80 vs Boeing 717 and also the Chinese regional jet form comac
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Trevis Dias Thanks for your support! Hmm, would love to do those but footage for 717 and MD80 is harder to find. Will see what other regional jets that AirplaneProductions can compare in the future. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs4 жыл бұрын
The ARJ has a some service issues which hasn’t made it the most attractive aircraft, not surprising as COMAC was learning on it. The B717 is the final product from the long DC9 line and was perfection with service times 1/5th that of the DC9. The BMW/RR BR715 engine was extremely easy to service. Had Boeing invested in a supercritical wing for the B717 it would have been very competitive. They could even have made it a composite supercritical wing. Bombardier wouldn’t have dared initiate the C series, there would be no A220 and with the MAX grounded there would still be revenue from the B717X. Hindsight.
@olekundbolek91602 жыл бұрын
If you need to safe money then you buy ATR. But if you want a real plane with power ... always buy Bombardier Q400😎👌🏻
@karlossargeant38724 жыл бұрын
This Video Between The ATR 72-600 & The Bombadier Q400 turboprops comparising is really Awesome Plus I only fly on there younger fleet the Q100,Q200 & Q300's no Q400's as yet but I hope too get there soon.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Karlos Sargeant Thanks for your comment. Glad you liked the video! Yeah do share your experience onboard the Q400 :) In Southeast Asia region it is rare to fly these turboprops. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@mackdeligeromartinez2 жыл бұрын
SAAB 2000 is also a unique design
@davidharris25194 жыл бұрын
like the Q-400 better and doesnt the 72 have a bad reputation in icing conditions
@sagmilling4 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the past, but there are now ATR 72s flying in the Canadian arctic with Summit Air (among others). I think the Canadian arctic might qualify for icing conditions? :-)
@juancarlos14204 жыл бұрын
I dont trust ATR in Icing conditionsé Bombardier is a Snow Horse.
@gugaprado35204 жыл бұрын
here in Brazil when are opening the atr 72-600 is azul airlines Brazilian, your reputation here is favorable
@bijaysitaula70063 жыл бұрын
Is Q 300 is still in production.
@jpdurr4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you compare ETOPS ?????? There is a big difference there!
@thecaynuck46943 жыл бұрын
Well they both aren't built to travel Transatlantic or Transpacific, but I saw somewhere (Simple Flying) that the Q400 lasts longer with one engine.
@davidkelly37793 жыл бұрын
ATR is an underpowered, slow, low altitude, short sector aircraft. On 300 nm routes the Q400 will do 4 sectors to 3 in the ATR. ATR has slow turn around times, hopeless for climbing above weather and has trouble lifting a load and holding fuel for weather at the destination. The ATR has issues with short runways in hot weather, the Q400 just creams it performance wise. In Australia, an airline pitched the ATR up against another with Q400’s, the ATR lost out, and no longer flys RPT routes in Australia. The ATR also had a bad safety record in Australia. From a pilots perspective, the ATR is a dud.
@Triplane1234 Жыл бұрын
Hey I've flown on atr like 8 times :(
@timallardyce12165 ай бұрын
What 'bad safety record in Australia'? I can't recall any incidents
@davidkelly37795 ай бұрын
@@timallardyce1216 I can give you 3 that Virgin ATR aircraft suffered. 1. A wingtip came within 30cm of the ground during landing at Moranbah in moderate crosswinds. 2. A Virgin ATR was tipped over on its wingtip, with passengers on board, by strong winds at Moranbah whilst parked. No other RPT aircraft parked nearby were impacted by the winds. 3. A Virgin ATR flew for 2 days with a twisted tail plane. This twist was picked up by a pilot during a turnaround in Albury. The twist occurred 3 days earlier during an incident, and was cleared by engineers. Apparently over 50% of the bolts securing the tail plane to the aircraft had failed. Maybe you should do a search, these are just ones I can recall offhand.
@timallardyce12165 ай бұрын
@@davidkelly3779 I don't need to do a search as you've just answered my question. Thanks I hate the ATR. Flown them a few times in NZ. I prefer the Q300s that Air NZ also operates
@zyp27132 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including CP (Cebu pacific)
@christophercddelrosariocoish3 жыл бұрын
I like the Q400, they are my favourites, I’ve been in them a lot when Porter came out, can you compare the A380 and 747?
@bidithranjandeb17752 жыл бұрын
Man The Q400 Was The First Ever Aircraft I Flew On When I Was 4 Way Back In 2014 Or 2015. I've Rode On The ATR 72-500 and 600 And The Flights Were Good And I've Rode On Them More Than The Q400 But I Think I Like The Q400 Better. The Experiences On Them Were Really Good And Smooth. I Live In Bangladesh And Just Last Month I Went To Cox's Bazar Which Is The Longest Sea Beach And Largest Marine Drive Road In The Entire World. We Went There With A Q400(Cox's Bazar Airport Is Kinda Ugly Tho But It's Domestic Airport So I'm Not Complaining. There Are No Conveyor Belts To Take Luggage. I Live In Sylhet And It Has Its Own International Airport. That Flight Was Good. The Landing Was Butter. I Dunno A Whole Lot About Planes But I Like The Q400 Way Better.
@Pz3492 жыл бұрын
I love atr72 because it looks nice and cheaper than q400. only q200 looks nice in dash 8 family
@dishantlalwani8 ай бұрын
nicely explained 👍
@neurosandesh3 ай бұрын
I am a passanger.... buddha air atr and shree airlines q400 in Nepal. Flight experience in far better in q400, we can feel engine power during climb, and less turbulence in cloudy weather.
@bobdalah83742 жыл бұрын
Good analyse, ATR72 has more success because ATR company continue developping the aircraft to be more efficent and now ATR72 is the best choice and alone in the market!
@dyer2cycle4 жыл бұрын
...I'm an admitted novice, but I am bewildered at how small(tiny even) the wings are on modern aircraft..how on earth do they produce enough lift?...yes, I know about flaps, slats, spoilers, etc., etc., but even so, they look so small!..during WW2, the B-24 Liberator was criticized because of it's narrow wing..B-26 Marauder because of it's small, short wing(No Visible Means Of Support, etc.)...well, they look huge in the relation to the rest of the aircraft compared to these modern airliners/cargo planes, both turboprop and jet...huge, heavy-looking fuselages with tiny little wings...amazed how those thin, narrow, and often even short, wings ever hold them up....
@pizzaboy52304 жыл бұрын
Very useful. Thank you! Finally somebody admits that ATR-72 is a very good plane!
@calebgarcia45574 жыл бұрын
I prefer Dash8/Q400. I think Bombardier is the best.
@samsara2694 жыл бұрын
Q400 is more beautiful and comfortable to fly with
@paulfife46832 жыл бұрын
how much weight can the atr carry compared to the q400
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
ATR or Q400? Which is YOUR favourite turboprop? Comment below! Thanks for watching till the end of this one and do stay tuned for more great videos, including some BRAND NEW Aviation Content such as Plane Spotting on the way!
@alexlo77084 жыл бұрын
I prefer MA 700.
@fabiorafaelramos44212 жыл бұрын
ATR...ELE ESTÁ EM REFORMA NÉ...
@wilsommoalim3 жыл бұрын
how much yearly cost and monthly cost q400 or ARj21
@taitplayz89234 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wilson so is the q400 the best? Because I really like the q400.
@billp99213 жыл бұрын
The Q400 has been put out of business by ATR. That should say everything!Bombardier sold tbe Q400 to Viking Aircraft. Viking shut down production of the Q400 with no plans to restart it.
@websurfin95752 жыл бұрын
The ATR-72 has a DEICING-BOOT problem on the wings that has caused many fatalities over the years! That should have been noted here in this video! I've never heard of that problem with the Q-400! And (in warm-weather months) I have flown on numerous ATR-72 aircraft & had a good experience on all of them. I would NOT fly on 1 of them during winter months though! I am looking forward to my 1st experience flying on the Q-400 airliner!
@320FL2 жыл бұрын
Sure Icing was the early problem for the ATR but Q400 still has more hull loses than the ATR with 31 and does have more incidents with 80
@websurfin95752 жыл бұрын
@@320FL What was the hull-loss cause?
@Pz3492 жыл бұрын
Icing problem also find on CRJ
@websurfin95752 жыл бұрын
@@Pz349 What?! Icing issues are also on the CRJ fan-jet aircraft?! I didn't know that! I knew that the ATR-42 & ATR-72 aircraft had icing issues in the past until redesigned deicing-boots were installed.
@DanaTobin-fm3wm Жыл бұрын
Although I have not flown the ATR-72, I really like the performance of the Dash -8. Neither plane is good for engine loss.... especially both engine flame out. It glides like a bird with no wings, if you get my drift.
@oscarkastor77184 жыл бұрын
ATR for the win💪🏻😍
@seminolegonzalezairlines77574 жыл бұрын
We fly the Q400, and used to fly the ATR72, the Q400 is better, and we have some higher performance models coming.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Seminole Gonzalez Airlines Thanks for your comment. Yeah the ATR does seem to lack performance, but is more efficient. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@seminolegonzalezairlines77574 жыл бұрын
AirplaneProductions I will also add that our high performance version of the Q400 is way more efficient than the ATR72, with the Q400HP (the afore mentioned high performance Q400) burning only 1.56 gallons per seat per 100nm.
@numeric.alphabet2 жыл бұрын
I just wondering what if propellar was to be ..
@uriblaketheriddimprotege4 жыл бұрын
Well damn that was quick!
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Uri Blake Thanks for your comment. Yep, thought it was a great idea so decided to send it out fast! Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@stuguy24 жыл бұрын
Q 400...more power, more range, better mission capabilities, global support and last but not least it's a pilots aircraft. Bad APU!
@pilotsam0044 жыл бұрын
Sorry I was in school...... Yes its opened in England I wanna go back to my home country which is on lock down 😢 ( Slovakia)
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
pilot sam 004 Oh, bless you and take care given the current COVID 19 situation. Here in Southeast Asia things are not exactly favourable either, though Aviation is the one to take a huge impact. Anyways, wishing you good health :) Thanks for watching
@pilotsam0044 жыл бұрын
@@oneskyflyer thx I'm wishing you good luck and stay safe. Hopefully you can still manage to mak ethis amazing content.
@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt Жыл бұрын
I'll take the Q-400 any day over the ATR. I've flown in both. Love the Q-400.
@nuclearnyanboi3 жыл бұрын
As a passanger, I fing the q400 to be more comfy
@ArnavWarnav3 ай бұрын
In terms of looks and sounds the ATR is better. Also I believe the ATR aircraft is sold more and plus it has more variety as it has two different models while the Dash 8 only has one.
@dadasmovies646826 күн бұрын
For me as a passenger and have flown both aircraft,, the Q400 is much specialy in bad weather
@vidinugroho37684 жыл бұрын
Never fly with Q400, since as far as i know, there's no operator in indonesia who operate this plane. But i did several times fly with atr72 mostly to go in or out my jobsite. Its true the cabin is set for short flight, since there is just typical cabin plane, and based in my experience, i feel not comfy to fly with this plane not only the seat width is pretty narrow even for guy like who only have 170cm in height, its also the plane is feel like having turbulance when go into clouds. But for 1 hour flight i think still acceptable to fly with atr72. Looking forward to on board of Q400.
@jlj38563 жыл бұрын
I prefer the ATR, but I understand why the Q400 would be more appealing to some, being based in guernsey, I understand why our airline flies the ATR more efficient, no mountains, and not a massive demand. Plus I think it’s better looking
@guggyman14 жыл бұрын
Why would you not mention that the Q400 cruises 30% faster than the ATR? This makes it possible to make more trips per day, meaning more income. Add this to the 15% more passengers, you do have the upper hand of the ATR. I am no Q400 fanboy, but i feel you failed to mention the Q400's strength, the speed. The Q400 has knocked regional jets away from several routes because of this, and better fuel-ecobomy. If i am wrong, i am happily corrected!
@TheSynecdoche4 жыл бұрын
Problem is, for most of the operators in this turboprop niche speed is not essential. They do short hops, often from island to island, and they don't carry a full load of passengers most of the time, so fuel efficiency is far more important. It is not on a whim that ATR are working on a 42 model for shorter runways, to serve even smaller airports. They see an opportunity for more business. Bombardier were/is too small to keep up, which is a pity as generally they made very good planes (CSeries >> A220).
@youzzername4 жыл бұрын
You are not wrong. The Q400 is the more versatile one. An operator can substitute a Q400 for a jet to match capacity without affecting route scheduling, due to its speed.
@guggyman14 жыл бұрын
youzzername Very good point, Widerøe here in Norway does that with their longer routes. Routes like Bergen - Bodø is serviced both by the Q400, and the Embraer E190 E2.
@richardcarr6493 Жыл бұрын
From a passenger point of view the dash 8 sux for passengers comfort!! If ATR is more efficient overall along with better passenger comfort then it gets My Vote
@aliasgarsadekaly1183 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but sppeed isn t a way to define wich aircraft is better even altitude
@aliasgarsadekaly1183 Жыл бұрын
And also he said many things to prove the difference between the two aircaft and q 400 is better in speed and higher altitudes and more people but the atr is more confortable and give access to a more beautifull view and he said also that atr is more fuel efficient and even that q 400 is more powerfull the atr is more efficient and that not say that he isn t powerfull.
@victimovtalent60364 жыл бұрын
What is similarity between turboprop and jet engine?
@xenomorphbiologist-xx12144 жыл бұрын
For a turboprop, a jet engine drives the propeller just like a turbofan.
@thecaynuck46944 жыл бұрын
Turboprops are jet engines with a propeller attached, and those make it more efficient on certain routes.
@alexlo77084 жыл бұрын
I heard ATR aren't allowed to fly in northern America or hemisphere which ice can cause accumulated on wing.
@vincentlemay84914 жыл бұрын
ATR are allowed to fly anywhere any NA but they're not as popular as the Q400. The rate of ice accumulation, called the rate of ice accretion, is no different from any other wings. What makes the ATR so unpopular in NA is the lack of thrust wich can cause the plane to stall much faster than the Q400 if there was formation of icing on the wings.
@alexlo77084 жыл бұрын
@@vincentlemay8491 I watched from TV documentary ATR crashed from icy wing in many accidents in North America till NTSB prohibit it to fly in northern hemisphere. They said rubber inflated de-icing in which ATR'd used failed to curtail icing on wing.
@stianmathisen42843 жыл бұрын
@@vincentlemay8491 That proves the security point, doesn`t it?
@Jay-hr3rh4 жыл бұрын
The nose off the ATR looks like the Airbus three hundred series.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
John Yep it does. Kind of a bit of an A320? Thanks for tuning in and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@_aidid4 жыл бұрын
😂
@sorin_ea64 жыл бұрын
Never flew either turboprop sadly, although I might fly either the ATR 42 or 72 soon
@saifanibnetanbir61444 жыл бұрын
i mostly flew on bombardiers whenever going to domestic destinations in Bangladesh i think both aircrafts are good idk which one to pick
@merc340sr2 жыл бұрын
I suspect that they are both great planes...by the sounds of it, it looks like ATR competes mostly on initial cost. Otherwise, they are more or less the same in their ability to service short distance, short runway and small passenger load destinations...
@Abdiyaretube3 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me the price of Q400
@mirzaahmed65893 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video? They said US$35 million list price.
@ZC_Offcials4 жыл бұрын
Well the ATR-72 is a dangerous aircraft
@shajith29344 жыл бұрын
ATR 42/72 -600 series are one of the most safest aircraft and can fly in any condition, hot, cold climate etc. ATR improved it's aircraft after icing issues and now they are the safest and most popular turboprops and most economical & fuel efficient too!
@uriblaketheriddimprotege4 жыл бұрын
I love Q400, but for more effiecent commuter turboprop ATR is the better choice. Q400 is basically a turboprop wanting to be a jet while ATR is a purebred turboprop.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Uri Blake Thanks for your comment. Yep perfectly summed up :) The ATR is more efficient but Q400 has more performance similar to small regional jets. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@davidward30914 жыл бұрын
Q400 is way too versatile and has made some jets obsolete in the airline industry. High speed high performance big payload cheap on gas. Both planes are studly but The q is still just better in my opinion. You didn't analyze pilot experience and the HUD is a huge addon to the Q
@Pz3492 жыл бұрын
@@davidward3091 Q400 is expensive
@managed93482 жыл бұрын
The ATR is superior!
@tumakbaluk4 жыл бұрын
As a fair comparison the Dash 8-300 should have been looked at. As the -300 and ATR-72 have similar passenger capacity, and they share the same engines. Note: your quote of 90 passengers for the Dash 8-400 is for a proposed variation and the typical amount of seats installed is 78.
@mic75043 жыл бұрын
SPICE Jet in India has flown a 90 seat Dash 8-Q400 since 2018.
@ciudad-del-mar4 жыл бұрын
The ATR is much better for inter-island flights...airlines such as Binter Canarias, Blue Islands & Aurigny would be nowhere without them.
@omnitraveller Жыл бұрын
As a passenger I get upset whenever I have to fly on either of them tbh. Loud, crowded and slow. I get that airlines want to save fuel, but flying on the CRJ is heaven compared to the turboprops. It is so quiet due to the engines being in the back, it's like gliding into the air.
@IFHD3504 жыл бұрын
What does this mean given one of the companies behind the ATR project is none other than Airbus? Does this mean that Airbus is helping ATR or what.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
IF HD Thanks for your comment. ATR is 50% owned by Airbus, that was what I meant. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@MagnarNordal4 жыл бұрын
Not only is Airbus a co-owner of ATR, but the ATR 72 has adopted avionics and controls (pushbuttons and switches) from various Airbus models. An ATR pilot will easily feel at home in an Airbus cockpit.
@TheSynecdoche4 жыл бұрын
Of course. Shared technical development, shared avionics, shared training facilities, and if ATR needs funds for expansion Airbus will gladly assist. There are a great number of commercial turboprops to be replaced over the next decade, and ATR has hardly any competitors.
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Frits Burghardt Thanks for your comment. Yep, being backed by Airbus gives ATR a huge advantage. Hopefully, they will continue to develop revolutionary new airplanes in the future. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@Leptospirosi3 жыл бұрын
@@oneskyflyer well, like the other 50% being Leonardo could be worthless... >__>
@jovanholland363 жыл бұрын
Airbus ATR?
@robertrpenny3 ай бұрын
The Q400 sounds like a better pilots plane but as a passenger i avoid them like the plague. They are cramped, hot when on the ground and slow loading and unloading. And every time i get on one some issue that causes delays seems to happen. However i did notice that operator AC did a better job than operator WJ with flying and hvac operation although flying older aircraft. But they dont compare to a B737 in any respect even if no problems occur.
@Koma45384 жыл бұрын
I want the next one to be Mitsubishi spacejet vs embraer 175 e2
@GabrielsGallery3 жыл бұрын
Yes cebu pacific my home country airline
@infiniteforces84104 жыл бұрын
Dash 8 💓
@sherwinsalvatori69974 жыл бұрын
Q 400 anytime
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
sherwin salvatori A more powerful and a great aircraft! Thanks for watching :)
@khatrinim41494 жыл бұрын
Well, Operators prefer ATR 72, but any passenger would choose Q400 over ATR 72
@Zayday19933 жыл бұрын
I personally like the q400 for some odd reason I hate the changes being made in the aviation Industry I still wish we had the roaring md80 all of the turboprops ect
@abymercyshaji4 жыл бұрын
I don't had a chance to travel with ATR, i had flown on Q400 few times. That was not a good experience for me. All of them was budget air (airbaltic, SpiceJet.... ) and legroom is terrible and was very bumby
@oneskyflyer4 жыл бұрын
Aby M'plackal Thanks for your comment. Yep, turboprops aren’t exactly the most comfortable, but are the cheapest to operate. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos on the way!
@Altenholz4 жыл бұрын
I would say that legroom is terrible almost everywhere, no matter which airline or aircraft you are flying with!
@thecaynuck46943 жыл бұрын
@@Altenholz Not really. The legroom on more well known airline operating planes like the Q400 is actually quite good. Heck, I find legroom better on a Q400 than 737 and A320!
@ZC_Offcials4 жыл бұрын
There no such thing as that kind of gate in 1:33
@KevinBenskin4 жыл бұрын
I still think the Q400 is the better of the two
@stuartlee66224 жыл бұрын
The Electra was the best prop-jet.
@DJMario-zj6rr4 жыл бұрын
The Q400 is a bit more modern then the ATR.
@Arpit000183 жыл бұрын
IVE FLOWN IN Q400 THIS LIL THING TOOK ME FROM NEPAL TO DUBAI IN 4HOURS