Onkyo Or Denon For Elac Debut 3.0?

[@davidyee361]

Onkyo RZ50 has individual crossovers; it's twin, Pioneer LX505, has a fixed global crossover at 80 Hz.

[@jjimlee7009]

Yeah I remember that. One of the main reasons I picked the RZ-50 over the LX505.

[@jjimlee7009]

3800h doesnt come with Dirac though. You have to buy it separately. It has Audyssey.

[@BrentWood-yv6cl]

Onkyo can do crossover for every speaker. But the RZ50 doesn’t have independent sub outs unfortunately. The RZ70 is the way to go if you want Onkyo. A much steeper price but it gets your a better power supply, more power, and 2 independent sub outs. It comes with Full Bandwith Dirac Live, and it’s upgradable to Bass Control. Next upgrade for me is Magic Beans!

[@Finite-Tuning]

After you run through all the auto crap (which I hate) in Dirac, then you can re-tune "your" desired crossover points within the Onkyo interface. Or at least that is how it works with my TX-RZ70, so I'd imagine the 50 is the same way. Cheers 🍻

[@eviljids]

You can change each speakers crossover points for sure on all the higher end onkyo receivers. Some pioneer receivers are the ones that have the shared speaker crossover points. I would get the onkyo 7100 if I was running only 5.1.2. 9.2 channels w/ dirac. $629 and room to add more speakers. Denon x3800 if you want more than 1 sub.

[@anthonyperez_audiophile]

The RZ30 has 2 independent sub outs.

[@eviljids]

​@anthonyperez_audiophile i read that also about the RZ30 having 2 real sub outputs! Will be a killer receiver when it goes on sale. Denon X3800h is cheaper right now onsale and has 4 sub outputs, but no included dirac if that matters. 😅 I like onkyo but the RZ50 is in a bad spot right now and need a refresh.

[@mikeschmidt2339]

I have 4800h dennon rz50 was glitching for me

[@gabrieltechreviews8185]

Denon any day. I had Onkyo rZ50 before but the 3800h is just better