Ontario man takes Ford F-150 truck in for repairs, finds out it's a stolen vehicle

[@eladreltuc]

The real crime is that truck being 60k lol

[@MP-ef6mc]

Yes that is very true

[@cessealbeach]

because it not a government motors vehicle

[@steveatlas3492]

@@cessealbeach They cost more.

[@mattm5786]

Just what I was thinking

[@gurnblanston3210]

That was 60,000 CANADIAN dollars, not real dollars.

[@Suchayoutuber]

Even though the dealership got screwed on this but at least they did honor their customer and promptly refunded their money. Now hope for the dealer will be able to track down the responsible party

[@Etymon-jt3zw]

What if they only did it in an attempt to cover up their own crimes?

[@bayardo]

lol, I like how you say 'promptly refunded' but in reality it took him months to get them to pay him back.

[@k9aid514]

they had to

[@glennbeadshaw727]

Even if you track down the responsibility of party nobody's going to jail out of this and that's the real crime

[@toriless]

@@k9aid514 Probably faces fraud charges otherwise.

[@jamesr2888]

Two things you can do for additional protection: 1) Have a dealer to verify VIN through the PCM (Powertrain Control Module), main computer for vehicle 2) Go to parts department & have them print out the vehicle options list via the VIN. When VIN is imputed, parts catalog will give you specific information of what options & parts were installed on the vehicle. 3) VIN is etched into the frame of the vehicle dealers should have access to where it's placed.

[@Flies2FLL]

Vin stickers are usually inside of door, hatch, and fender panels. On German vehicles, it is also etched into the frame somewhere, typically under the hood.

[@anthonymolina7416]

@@Flies2FLL bmw also puts the vin number on the license plate area

[@jackhammer078jack4]

Guy looks like he is going to cry 😢

[@auto6547]

kind of weird since 99% of cars with OBDii have the vin in the pcm. my truck is a rare exception that only has it in the windshield

[@toriless]

Heck, cheap scanner tool pulls u the VIN as its firsts piece of data. You do not need a PCM scan. When you do it will tells you the configuration too. I use the one from BlueDriver which is about $99 since it puts all the smarts into my phone so it can be constantly improved.

[@mstrorange]

This exact thing happened to me way back in 1976. I bought a used F150 from a dealer. A couple of months later, while ready to back out of a parking spot at a restaurant, I was surrounded by police. They told me I was driving a stolen vehicle!!! I had to allow them to take the truck but I was able to get it back a few days later. It took a year to straighten everything out but I eventually got to keep the truck.

[@toriless]

It was a LOT easier then, not you VIN is ALL OVER the car unlike then. Today they would just claim civil asset forfeiture and keep it.

[@JeffDeWitt]

@@toriless You mean they would steal it.

[@Atomwaffen-y3s]

And it happened to me too! And my friends dads neighbor! It happened to him too!

[@2mo2time]

Wtf guy wrecks truck then gets lucky and gets truck refunded if anything he came out ahead

[@DiscoMiata]

That’s what I was sayin lol

[@jackhammer078jack4]

Guy looks like he is going to 😢

[@Suchayoutuber]

I wouldn't necessarily say ahead now he has to go to the headache of dealing with another dealership to find another car or in this case a truck, sometimes the hours a headache of that wouldn't be worth the refund

[@jdm_905]

He's not ahead lariat costs 70k

[@franko8572]

Yeah, because the dealership probably doesn’t want you this out there so they tried to bury it.

[@101spacecase]

I'll say it again we need harder punishments on stealing an theft its down right out of hand.

[@mcmuskie2563]

Yes exactly, 6 month’s minimum. Do not pass go!

[@kxp.1496]

Your absolutely right it should cost them their hands

[@mikeb4708]

Law enforcement just doesn’t have the resources to go after these thieves and they know it

[@jamesberry7150]

@@opiegonebad58 well if you steal millions in business you should get 300 years with probation after 100 years.

[@davediamond7228]

doesn't matter...the death penalty doesn't stop someone from murdering ...

[@matthewdo7947]

What about pursuing the person selling the pickup to the dealership? Police should follow that up.

[@bernicemiller3879]

Probably difficult but I am sure they trying a year or so has passed and the other truck was in Utah

[@xxdesertstorm]

They could but yet again cops are the ones who turn a blind eye, many cities have corrupt cops, 100% its an Arab that did it

[@scottmcshannon6821]

@@bernicemiller3879 if they traded the vehicle and the dealership did the paperwork properly, there should be sa huge trail to follow.

[@tlr-nut7275]

This sounds like alot of work for them. Easier to give parking tickets instead.

[@Blanchy10]

@@tlr-nut7275 Sounds like Australian police!

[@seankingsland]

It's amazing. If you have a parking ticket on the car the dealership will reject the trade in. But a stolen car is no problem.

[@goinfastwithfrank]

Vin numbers are stamped all over. This is negligence of the dealership

[@KeatrithAmakiir]

100%! Dealership didn't do their due diligence and they should be liable for it. Accepting stolen property is a crime....

[@longjohn77]

What exactly do you two "experts" think the dealership should have done differently? This should be entertaining🙄

[@the_kombinator]

My 87 Hyundai has at least 5 VINs, plus stamped in serial numbers on the block, transmission, and rear axle. I imagine new ones have them in more than just 5 places, plus in the ECU (which I guess could be re-flashed)

[@guccipucci69420]

​@@longjohn77 Huh? Are you dense? There's so many different ways to find a VIN on a vehicle. How exactly should they NOT know that it stolen?!??!

[@guccipucci69420]

​@@longjohn77 ignorance at its finest.

[@adotintheshark4848]

Kudos to the dealer for refunding the purchaser's money. I'd gladly do business with this dealer. A lot of dealers would have said, "Sorry, but there's nothing we can do, tough luck".

[@backwoodstherapy]

They would have tried, but selling stolen property is a crime in and of itself. The fact they didn't know it was stolen is irrelevant. It's a lawsuit they would 100% lose and they know it. They'd be out way more than the cost of the truck once all was said and done.

[@louisbarningham]

Mazda canada are amazing, got my 3 from their😊

[@eurosonly]

I wouldn't. They didn't do their homework and sold a fraudulent title vehicle. It cost the owner time and time is money

[@nerradnosnhoj5122]

If a Dealer has stolen inventory , it is on them to make it right Omvic or some consumer protection should be there for private deals

[@DanielSon69]

OMVIC is useless, works for and controlled/funded by dealers

[@glennbeadshaw727]

Agreed

[@Landis_Grant]

He took the $60,000 reimbursement and bought the same vehicle from the dealer!

[@LiLBitsDK]

well then the dealship is responsible and should repay him... but sad it wasn't thoroughly checked when they took it in

[@pierre-rose7783]

Glad he got his money back !

[@JAlexanderCurtis]

The dealership knows they screwed up. Probably excited to turn around an overpriced truck and didn't stop to fully process the used car properly, which would involve checking multiple VIN locations. The dealership was quick to refund him because they didn't want him pushing the matter legally or with any government bureaus

[@Julian-do7bv]

Glad the dealership held up their end and refunded the truck purchase

[@jamesr2888]

They have to by law.

[@msmith3395]

The person who traded in the truck probably played dumb consumer and undervalued it intentionally, and the dealer was too busy salivating on itself to do their due diligence.

[@toriless]

LIkely

[@spelunkerd]

This happened to a friend, who bought a new looking used vehicle off a lot in Calgary. A year later the business was identified as a criminal front for stolen vehicles, and investigators came knocking on his door based on past records. He lost his SUV, and was given the option to sue the Hell's Angels as the only recourse. He decided to accept the loss.

[@dale116dot7]

We’re way too soft on crime. Need to send the crooks to The Chair, not a cushy jail.

[@the_kombinator]

If I even had 15 minutes of notice, I would have burned the car down and filed an insurance claim - the real mafia ARE the insurance companies anyhow...

[@4EverParkedLS]

i don’t blame them for taking that loss, that’s like asking for a death wish if they tried to sue.

[@99sentcoins]

That happened to me too. Bought a 2 yr old car in Pa and tried to sell it a few years later. It was stolen. I was in cuffs in NC until they placed the dealership owner in cuffs. I was released and his stealership was shut down. Now he runs a stealership in Florida with his conartist wife and brother. His name is Dale Phillips. Not too sure where in Florida though.

[@shadowman1403]

Sucks when stuff like this happens! I try to explain to dopes that say “If your not doing anything wrong then what’s the problem?” That don’t think you can ever be arrested on accident or in situation that isn’t your fault! I had a warrant for my arrest in a city 3000 miles from where I was living in LA from a false warrant. And the charge was 3 days in jail and a 500 dollar fine if guilty! I had the warrant for 4 years and never knew , I never got a phone call nothing! I found out from a background check here for a contract job with major Hollywood studio! I got hired and then they did the background check and then they let me go because of it! The pay was life changing! I have a lawyer suing the county DA office there and the police department. F’cking nghtmare!

[@toriless]

Buy a scanner tool, most thieves are too dumb or cheap to know how to swap and program a new unit.

[@luigivincenz3843]

@@toriless i bring a scanner tool when i buy used cars. It's pretty much basic.

[@alwayscuriousalwayslearnin]

Mazda should have also gave this person an excellent deal on top of the refunded money on his next vehicle in fact they should have searched for another such truck that wasnt stolen and gave him that excellent deal .

[@carlose6010]

Who knows what they did. Most likely did give him a deal.

[@luigivincenz3843]

the most important part is getting the money back. Once that is done, anything else is gravy.

[@MC-oil-pumps]

I worked in the engine oil pump industry for big OEMs like Ford. The easiest way is to drop oil pan and see the full pump serial number. Every oem record which pump goes on which engine/transmission. You can do this to the Ford 10 speed rwd transmissions as well

[@johngreydanus2033]

As if every car dealer is going to do that for every vehicle???

[@juliogonzo2718]

I think you are underestimating the labour involved in removing oil pans on most vehicles 😂😂😂

[@toriless]

Same for many brands, it is all over each vehicle.

[@davehope9144]

Driving a beater that nobody would steal works for me

[@toriless]

A pre-2k civic?

[@constructionservicesgroup6806]

Ford stole my money by selling me a 2022 Expedition that has spent more time back at the shop than in my driveway

[@OsiniPoPrasinii]

That’s the guy Mike Tyson cursed at on live air!! 😂

[@1c3sly13]

The dealer should be able to track who they bought the car from

[@juliogonzo2718]

Probably says Mike Hunt on the invoice

[@KayJay940]

So your entire premise is they counterfeit the vehicle VIN but used their real name and id. Im guessing you didnt to well in school or anything that requires critical thinking. 😮

[@RP-tz6jv]

The VIN or vehicle identification number is stamped or tagged in multiple places, Not just the dashboard.

[@jojopapa7521]

Where is the follow-up to arrest the person who traded it in???

[@mcmuskie2563]

Nice of the dealer to refund his money!

[@brandonlink6568]

Modern vehicles are lousy with VINs, my car has it printed in 5 obvious places I can think of offhand and probably several more not so obvious ones. Maybe dealers should start checking them?

[@nyccollin]

‘VIN Number’ Vehicle Identification Number Number 😂

[@keithrodgers1030]

Cloning is rampant not just in vehicles , passports, benefit claims, drivers licenses, loan agreements on somebody’s else’s ID , cell phone agreements it goes on and on.

[@lenadahling]

Is there anything the government is on top of?

[@firstjohn3123]

Taxes. Got that covered.

[@broseb8050]

It will balance itself

[@chrisball9191]

Their 10 to $ 20,000 raises....

[@jumbome7420]

Nothing to do with the government

[@lenadahling]

@@jumbome7420 You can't ship things out of country without abiding by laws, and they're bypassing them - faster than the regulations. Everything to do with obsolete governance.

[@gigatron2008]

Ramp up the grand theft auto charge to 15yrs in prison and even though this dealer refunded the customer they should be charged. Way too many vehicles getting stolen in Canada.

[@toriless]

Still stolen from the actual owner, still a crime.

[@jimberry2297]

My 2015 50k miles F150 Platinum wish it was stolen cause the only place that took me for $5500 was my own dealership!

[@baljitg9610]

This is getting crazy

[@Viewerman-gif]

I had no idea you could make this much money by stealing a truck and doing a trade in with a cloned VIN

[@Uouttooo]

Are you considering changing your career?

[@JAlexanderCurtis]

Before you quit your day job, just think about the fact that you are trading a car into a dealership and buying a new one. There's quite the paper trail there. You better believe the dealership pulled the paperwork on the trade for this vehicle and reported it to authorities.

[@glennbeadshaw727]

Looks like a new Avenue of business I'll be looking into

[@toriless]

If the dealer is lazy, yep, trade-ins are always high profit.

[@kevinrice7635]

Don't even go in a dealership!

[@aliciabrowndocken4660]

I worked for a large Toyota Dealership in California and I was doing a SMOG check on a really clean Chevrolet Silverado that we'd purchased from the Auto Auction. I called the Used Car manager and I asked him which Serial Number he wanted me to use. He said what do you mean "Which Serial Number"??? I explained that it had 3 different Serial Numbers and none of them matched. The one in the door jam, the dashboard at the corner of the windshield and the serial number under the Hood were all different. He said don't touch anything I'll be right there. He quickly came out to the shop from his office. He looked at the 3 non matching numbers and said it's going back to the Auction. We won't have anything to do with it. The Auction refunded the Dealership our money. I'm pretty sure that the Truck was originally a Salvaged Title. We caught it before we even offered it for sale but if we had sold it the Customer would have received a complete refund and his inconvenience would have also been made right.

[@mikeb4708]

Happens every day in the USA! There are no consequences as they will never even attempt to find out who did it.

[@alextownsend6662]

Dealer is responsible 100%

[@glennbeadshaw727]

For $600 the dealer will put your VIN number etched into your window glass without your permission and then the thieves will rub it out when they steal your truck

[@Atomwaffen-y3s]

Stop thinking. It must hurt.

[@williamblaney3316]

Well at least the dealer did right by him. But that is scary.

[@Mannycts]

So u had a free truck for 6 months.....don't feel bad

[@jeffreylong9405]

60,000.00 😂😂😂, now that’s robbery .

[@MJrocs1309]

Wonder how many other stolen vehicles have gone through dealers still out there. Carvana recently had the same issue sold a car that was stolen and it wasn't discovered until it had been taken to get some service done.

[@MJ-zo5gb]

60k for a used truck!? That’s the story! 🤪

[@tlr-nut7275]

New that's $110,000.

[@ryakin7637]

​@tlr-nut7275 😅if you pay 110k for a Lariat you are getting hosed

[@seamusoreilly804]

@@ryakin7637 Ain’t that the truth? And if someone is that dumb, how do they make that amount of money to waste?

[@longjohn77]

@tlr-nut7275 nowhere near 110k.😆😅🤣😂 Unless you're buying, it that case I'll cut you a sweet deal, only 105k!

[@uhhTabby]

@@tlr-nut7275 not even close bud, the raptor is that price

[@michaelmayes4079]

The DMV needs to be held liable.

[@jaxturner7288]

What did they do wrong?

[@toriless]

DMV can not get their actual job done.

[@jaxturner7288]

@@toriless their is no getting their job done, their job is continus.

[@5iFTYHFaviation_addict]

Take it as a blessing, you crashed the truck and end up getting all your money back.

[@yomo68]

My mechanic friend put a remote cyanide canister in his Mazda 3 and a GPS module and he found the twerps passed out on the 412 side lol Great way to prevent thefts

[@toriless]

Probably a crime so do not post his name.

[@Tewthpaste]

*in the U.S.A, you would never see that $60K coming back to you.* 🤣

[@michaelpiwcewicz1412]

BUY SILVERADO 1500 BETTER THAN A STOLEN F 150 ANY TIME

[@bajadan2769]

he got out of ending up with a possibly salvaged truck - he got lucky

[@wc4109]

All the more reason to buy from a Dealership... or this guy would never have got his $60k full refund... After he used the truck for 6 months then wrecked it.... this guy doesn't realize how lucky he is...

[@rogeratienza1951]

60000 CAD = 45000 USD.

[@John-cg8hb]

Finally someone with common sense!

[@johnheaney6383]

Cudos to the dealership! You can’t ask for more!

[@Alex-ti3uf]

Some OBD scanners can tell the VIN according by the ECU ID. Maybe the dealer will verify with the OBD scanners.

[@melanatedone4894]

Your not safe anywhere stiffer penalties need .

[@jreynol100]

Amazing the dealership set things right with the guy. I know of a lot of dealership that would force the issue to court before doing such.

[@Landis_Grant]

He was compensated not by the dealer but by BMW Canada.

[@kpdvw]

Kudos to the Mazda Dealer for refund in full!

[@mastercraftsman4213]

This is why there are multiple places of vin # .....a sticker is easy to forge....

[@shannonmcatee9610]

Awesome he got refunded, won't happen at any dealership near me in America

[@mynock250]

A nice dealership, seeing that he totaled the vehicle.

[@questioner1596]

The condition of the vehicle is irrelevant because the dealer can't buy it back from him - it was never his or theirs to begin with. It goes back to the insurance company of its true owner.

[@meair]

wasn't totaled or it wouldn't be at a body shop being repaired with the wrong chrome parts

[@flynnstone3580]

​@@questioner1596 you're right, the condition really doesn't matter.

[@allenwilson9656]

I had to listen to that 4 times I thought he said 2024 , he said 2020 ford F 150

[@godisgood789]

You can buy a bluetooth scanner very cheap and identify the VIN immediately through the PCM.

[@toriless]

I know, I have one, 2 error codes which have not returned. Toyota Camry so that is par for the course.

[@mcmillan1963]

So ln reality he crashed someone else's truck. At least he doesn't have to worry about taking the Carfax hit for extensive front end damage.

[@toriless]

Hey was he listed as a licensed driver for the real car. Insurance may have a denial. He is not a listed driver for THAT truck.

[@burnout_2017]

Are we just gonna ignore the 60k price tag for a used vehicle.......WTF

[@LostCanuck192]

60k for a used Ford!? Haha forget the stolen truck he got ripped off by the dealer

[@philmckay9973]

That is pathetic

[@flopsymopsy7088]

So why didn’t his auto insurance run vin number to prove it was stolen? If that is not required, it needs to be!

[@jimmyqs1558]

Very common practice in many parts of the world they screw up because suppose to be two identical trucks to be able to twin them.

[@juliogonzo2718]

Yeah they probably bought a totaled one that was not branded and used the vin from it in the stolen one

[@Supernaut2000]

So HOW exactly are we supposed to protect and properly research this to avoid this from happening??

[@toriless]

Use scantool and have it inspected under the frame for a matching number in all locations.

[@KA-pq3yz]

Dealer didn’t know?😱 really? ….. really?

[@toriless]

Dealer did not care.

[@danielclark5170]

Bad enough it's a Ford, then it's stolen, that's a really bad deal. Buy another brand? For sure

[@toriless]

I hear Toyota makes trucks too.

[@SCSC-qz7rr]

The dealers should be responsible to make sure the vehicles they are selling are legit

[@Flies2FLL]

MAHZ da, not Mazzz da!

[@bobcuriston5402]

My goodness ! What a difference….Mazda stepped up to the plate and refunded the price of the truck. Ford, GM or Fiat certainly would not have lifted a finger.

[@deere7227]

Dealer likely bought at auction

[@AusWash]

60k for an F-150. I wonder what the monthly payments on that are?

[@dougiep2769]

Connectivity and vehicles dont mix

[@Robowarrier8670]

Dang! They would’ve got away with it if they got the vin from another f150 that had the same specs 😮

[@glennbeadshaw727]

Yep that's what I'll be doing for now on

[@livefrom5531]

​@@glennbeadshaw727 I need your help...

[@toriless]

@@glennbeadshaw727 Oh Canada! Cloning is our way ...

[@souk4507]

Buy new. Problem solved....

[@the_kombinator]

Or very used - don't have to worry about it getting stolen ever ;)

[@edgarh252]

@@the_kombinator depends cause if someone had a 1990 to fix I bet finding parts won’t be as easy. There’s shops that will buy stolen vehicles to sell them for parts.

[@the_kombinator]

@@edgarh252 I have an 06 Corolla and an 05 Sonata, $1,200 each, and they're quite serviceable. The Corolla especially.

[@carlsosnoski8722]

I don’t park my cars outside, always inside!

[@beeknose]

Mike Tyson tells Nathan Downer to F-OFF! STILL LOVING IT!!

[@buddha_6925]

We had a dealership in calgary that stole other dealership trucks and would sell them I found this out because my truck was one of the stolen trucks as well it was called roadsport auto

[@JH-gy7fn]

Any dealer KNOWS that there are several vin numbers on any car and where to find them ,if they dont match then likely its stolen.

[@nickmalone3143]

Thats on the dealership ...sue them...wheres the title ?

[@mikefoehr235]

Have you stolen a Ford lately

[@tonyfulford3175]

Actually they are stealing more Dodge trucks than Ford. Honda and Toyota as well. The Dark Web is awash in thieves buying the technology to do it. No manufacturer is immune.

[@longjohn77]

No, I prefer to steal something reliable😆😅

[@mikefoehr235]

@@longjohn77 Is why i drive Toyota.

[@juliogonzo2718]

Guy i used to work for asked me to pass him his slide hammer one day. "I used to steal mustangs with that" he said as I handed it to him

[@toriless]

No, you should only steal one you think will not break down on the way you your shop, not a Ford. 🙂 Seriously though, the F-150 is the best vehicle they ever made.

[@MattCartledge1994]

This guy got lucky to get his money back though not many guys get refunded

[@sergiomarinizer9556]

How ??crime doesn’t happen in Canada 😂😂

[@midgetmayo]

😂🤣 Yes it does

[@toriless]

@@midgetmayo Really?? Who would have guess?? Hmm

[@c-v-n3322]

So dealers don't check the Vin id before buying or even selling it to be sure there isn't any issues with it?

[@L.L]

Ahhh don’t complain you got in an accident and got all your money back and get to buy an other newer truck 😊

[@marcpikas2859]

I took it as him making others aware of potential for buying a stolen vehicle even from a dealership. I’d rather not have to go through what he had to on my next vehicle purchase.!

[@nicholaslandolina]

Just needs to have the stolen removed from it

[@nicholaslandolina]

It was probably theft recovery

[@nicksaban2178]

Is this the dude Mike Tyson scorned?

[@Uouttooo]

Will he still get a car insurance hit for involving in an accident or is he getting away Scott free?

[@glennbeadshaw727]

Who says he caused the accident?

[@samaa5660]

Just last week, April 28. 2023 / 3 of my friends got their vehicles stolen all Dodge RAM 2022...The theft took place at 3:15 am however the poor policeman came at the 11:30 am to do the reporting He did not bother asking about the content inside the stolen cars. It is really a disgusting and degenerate thing! 🛑🛑

[@shamrockfile]

I bought a new Toyota tundra and found the vin number etched into door frame, engine block, truck frame, and driver’s side window.

[@toriless]

Body frame too and a few places I will not reveal.

[@pete84101]

wonder what the thieves traded the truck in for?

[@jeffkerr7418]

That damage didnt look like its worth fixing.

[@ShainAndrews]

Real crime is paying 60k for a used Ford.

[@JAlexanderCurtis]

The biggest crime is that the dealership sold him a used 2 year old F-150 XLT for $60,000. That truck probably sold for less than that when it was brand new in 2020.

[@toriless]

It was during covid-19 when everything was 50% over list.

[@John-cg8hb]

Lariat is the top trim level so of course it's going to be the most expensive you fool

[@matthew6202]

Wow that’s just crazy

[@bertblue9683]

That's just karma for buying a Ford