Still a Worthy Buy or Should You Look Elsewhere? Honda Africa Twin 1100 Review

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OnTheBackWheel

OnTheBackWheel

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@Chillertek
@Chillertek 9 ай бұрын
Love my 1100 Africa Twin, your assessment is pretty spot on. Handles great on road, handles great off road. I've not had any problems with the front abs. The air filters access isnt that bad. I'd buy another one again, its a fantastic bike, its a bit of a sleeper bike. More capable than anyone realizes.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
For sure mate, stupidly capable for a big bike
@AnyMotoUSA
@AnyMotoUSA 9 ай бұрын
I've had mine since 2018. 100k miles on the bike now, no major issues. Keep an eye on the exhaust valve clearances, and the IACV can give up the ghost. Other than that, a great great bike and yeah it surprises people when it can keep up with smaller enduros.
@manuel_tp
@manuel_tp 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 ATAS ES and I couldn’t be happier, have ridden 23000 km in 10 months. Love mine, each time I park it, I start to stare it, gorgeous and capable bike.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Such a good looking machine
@loblolly777
@loblolly777 9 ай бұрын
I love that you have done all that work on stock tyres. Credit to your skill.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. Not ideal for my type of riding, but proves how capable it is
@SwabbyG
@SwabbyG 9 ай бұрын
I own a 2021 ATAS ES DCT bike and absolutely love it!!! It has some small quirks like you mention in your video but bang for the buck to do everything from full road touring to off road escapes I wouldn't own anything else!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Mate they must be pretty good, all the owners love them
@howardbarker7768
@howardbarker7768 9 ай бұрын
I have an 1100 Africa twin for black top and dirt roads and a modified crf 300 for off-road they tick all the boxes being 67 can’t be bothered picking up big bikes in the rough stuff life needs to be easy but challenging good vid
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great combo of bikes mate
@TWTourist
@TWTourist 5 ай бұрын
At 62 I agree. ‘21 ATASESDCT and ‘23 CRF300L Rally is my combo.
@robbieandbeckie
@robbieandbeckie 9 ай бұрын
If the Africa Twin came with a KLR 650 as an accessory, it would be in the best buy ever category. I have both and enjoy both. Spot on review!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
KLR as an accessory, that's the first time I've heard of that!
@TWTourist
@TWTourist 5 ай бұрын
I think the CRF300L Rally would be a better accessory. 😁
@rickt5505
@rickt5505 2 ай бұрын
I have the WR250r as an accessory👍
@robbieandbeckie
@robbieandbeckie 2 ай бұрын
@@rickt5505 👍
@Comova79
@Comova79 9 ай бұрын
Had the 2018 ATAS and took it off road in the Spanish Pyrenese mountains. Now got the base model AT 1100. Love it so much! Even had the CRF300 Rally. Which is fun too and usable. Cheers mate!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Nice mate, beautiful place to ride by the looks of it
@Comova79
@Comova79 9 ай бұрын
Yes! Defo one to go to one day. I lived in Oz too. Love it so much!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
@@Comova79 well there you go. Where did you live?
@DiveTrainerDan
@DiveTrainerDan 9 ай бұрын
Onthebackwheel content is the best. Looking forward to more reviews.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, I enjoy doing the reviews too
@brianhoward9217
@brianhoward9217 9 ай бұрын
Great review - very, very informative. No fluff or nonsense, just the facts - you do this so well. Thank you!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@TempusFugit2K
@TempusFugit2K 9 ай бұрын
After losing my previous bike to a bad wreck, and Over-Analyzing (& Riding) many Adventure Bikes.... I now own a 2023 AT DCT and considering I use it for Adventure Riding, 65/35 Andean Mountain Rides.... I couldn´t be happier! I respect your issues with the bike (in my case more than acceptable) but would truly enjoy knowing what bike out there can give you more reliability, Comfort, Flexibility for commuting/Adventure/ long Trips and Features. I know of maybe 2 bikes worth mentioning, and the other "flashy" ones..... well they have Issues you´d scoff at considering your choice of dislikes of the AT. There truly is no PERFECT BIKE, but I have found my little piece of heaven.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Mate I haven't heard of an owner who didn't love theirs, good to hear
@GCTO239
@GCTO239 9 ай бұрын
Not even a question. It is a bloody fantastic, unique and beautiful bike! AT all day, baby! 🤙🏼
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
It is a very nice machine 👊
@Texan_American
@Texan_American 9 ай бұрын
Nice review! Africa Twin has always been on my radar as a potential future bike..most of the issues you have I think wouldn't be a problem for me personally if i could afford one right now.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Cheers bud and that's it, some things work for different people
@HavaCrack
@HavaCrack 9 ай бұрын
Buy a 2016-18 crf1000l, it is all you need.
@richardkeeley6927
@richardkeeley6927 8 ай бұрын
I purchased a new 2023 ATAS which was leftover. I did so because I wanted a 21" front wheel. With roughly 2000kms ridden to date, I'm pleased with the bike overall for tarmac purposes. I'm very impressed with the suspension and it has enough power scoot me along. Off-road, I haven't been yet. We still have snow on the ground in some places and we have another month to go before conditions are dry enough. Once I install decent tires (Dunlop Trailmax Raids in waiting), I'll get out in the Canadian wilderness and try the ATAS out. I will simply need to adapt to the extra weight due to the larger tank and all the protection equipment added. This is my second Africa Twin and yes, changing the air filters can be a pain if you make it so. However, the air intake system and filters don't let anything by with proper maintenance. Once you get accustomed to changing them out, it's not that big a deal. Just take your time separating the plastics from the grommet openings. As far as the the hand controls are concerned, they are not backlite, but I'm also not paying the extra $8-10K you would for a BMW 1300 or Triumph 1200. It's true, some cheaper bikes have illuminated controls. Thanks for the review.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 8 ай бұрын
Good comment mate and great to hear from a an owner
@pont0n
@pont0n 9 ай бұрын
I have Aprilia Tuareg 660, I'm going to test ride new 2024 AT base model, I only could use a Little more power, but not sure if power alone will justify change
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
The new 24 looks great and I think the motor updates should make it pretty impressive🤞
@powertrip1050
@powertrip1050 9 ай бұрын
Another honest and insightful review. Good job!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@powertrip1050
@powertrip1050 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel I dunno how you stay upright ploughing thru the scrub on a beast like that with road tyres...😃
@anthonyfox5337
@anthonyfox5337 9 ай бұрын
G`day Curtis ya bloody legend. Good review mate, honest appraisal with no BS or fluff.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@vincenttarquini4235
@vincenttarquini4235 9 ай бұрын
Good review. I had considered an AT, but decided against it. It is a good motorcycle, but like you, I don't have the time to fiddle with some of the maintenance complications.
@danielhill136
@danielhill136 9 ай бұрын
Hi Curtis ,looked at the AT ,but for the price and what I considered money for value I got the Transalp,what I saved put towards luggage and suspension upgrades ,couldn’t be happier ,ride 2 up ,as they say happy wife happy life😂😂, love watching your content,keep it up,Cheers Daniel👍🍺🇦🇺
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Daniel. Mate those Transalps are cracking value
@rkr6237
@rkr6237 9 ай бұрын
What suspension did you get put on your transalp? Thanks
@MCGMB
@MCGMB 9 ай бұрын
Great review. Packed lots of useful info into a perfect length video.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, I thought it would be good keeping the length down
@MCGMB
@MCGMB 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel I also liked your reasoning at the end about whether you would or wouldn't buy the bike. Made sense and very useful.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
@@MCGMB cheers!
@jonwoodworker
@jonwoodworker 9 ай бұрын
Excellent review Curtis, your channel and reviews are far superior than dorks with mainstream channels. I am very interested in seeing the MT450 review. Honda would be wise not to loan you a Transalp, it will get destroyed quickly with your type of adventure riding.
@SkozzaAU
@SkozzaAU 9 ай бұрын
im keen for the mt450 review too, and a transalp and whatever else curtis can get his hands on, its good when reviewers put things through their paces, see if they can handle a bit of abuse.
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 9 ай бұрын
Could say it better 👏👏 Curtis is a beast on riding & giving HONEST feed back “you hear that Manufacturer’s”?!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks guys, very keen to try out that MT450. I should be getting the Transalp in the future, they wanted to give me one without any crash protection or a bash plate!
@TRAVERSE_ADV
@TRAVERSE_ADV 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel hahahahahaha
@jonwoodworker
@jonwoodworker 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel You should take it without the bash plate to see how long it would take to knock off the sump and flatten the exhaust.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx 7 ай бұрын
i do plenty offroad and never understood this whole abs complaining thing. Works very well offroad. The only time i turn off rear abs is if i want to goof around and do slides. You never need to disengage abs for normal riding. But thats on pre lift, 2018 ;
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 7 ай бұрын
I've ridden a fair few adv bikes now and this of the only one I've had an issue with. No doubt better tyres would help
@Mudjimba23AT
@Mudjimba23AT 9 ай бұрын
Hi Curtis had my 2023 for neary a week now has only road tyers front and rear so definitely no bush work till they go especially after your comments about the front abs,not looking forward to that but everything else is spot on. After having the 2017 model honda has exceeded my expectations! Great content and review keep it coming mate 👍
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. What tyres were you thinking of putting on?
@Mudjimba23AT
@Mudjimba23AT 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel I'll stick with the tractionator rall z rear the tkc80 front
@AT2021Rocker
@AT2021Rocker 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely love my 2021 ATAS!
@andrebueno2048
@andrebueno2048 9 ай бұрын
My 2 cents from someone who is a big fan of Honda, but does not believe in “unicorn” motorcycles. If you want to ride dirt, buy a dirt bike. If you want to ride street, buy a great street bike. I spent a ton of time in the mountains taking my 250RX on gnarly trails where one would have to be crazy to take a 500lbs bike. Don’t take me wrong. Africa Twin is an amazing motorcycle for street and some gravel, and that is it. If you insist on riding this bike on hard dirt terrain, you will brake the bike, brake yourself, or both…
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Oh I agree, would much rather be on a proper dirt bike in the tough stuff. It is stupidly fun hustling a big bike through moderate dirt sections where a proper dirt bike is boring though
@TRAVERSE_ADV
@TRAVERSE_ADV 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't buy one new, but used they are good value for money. My record for swapping the air filters on my 1000 is 12 minutes and thats including manoeuvring the faring panels around crash bars, adding time to the process . Its really not a big deal once you know the procedure. The ABS module or software must be different on the 1100, or the tyres must be effecting the SBS ss the only time the 1000 ABS goes off is when you are trying to do so. Only thing holding me back from the 1100, is I have heard on reviews that the triangle is smaller than the 1000 as the bar to triple clamp mounts are taller, making the bars cloer to the rider. I am 6'2" and already had back pain issues with the 1000 due to the bike not being large enough for me to stand while riding. I had to flip the bar mounts and rotate the bars forward to the point that the barkbusters didn't clear the windscreen and faring at full lock. I had to make custom bars to join the spine to the inner bar mounts on the barkbusters to compensate. The bike does everything I need it to well enough. I will eventually get another bike, and when I do, the 1000 will stay with me. Its too good to let go and I have customised it to suit me too much to let it go. I honestly think if someone handed you the keys to one, with proper offroad tyres and said keep it, you would soon forget about the 800DE! 😂
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Oh no doubt its a better bike than the 800DE! 12 minutes mate, thats bloody good going
@TRAVERSE_ADV
@TRAVERSE_ADV 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel had the farings off about 15 times for wiring, cleaning and replacing the air filters. Set the record pissing off the pre filters for a last minute organised ride.
@andrewtreloar7389
@andrewtreloar7389 9 ай бұрын
As you know Curtis I am looking at trading the Tenere on something a bit more off-road touring oriented. The AT was in the mix early on. I loved the look and the build quality and the fact it's a Honda (read: uber reliable). What I didn't like was the seat height, the weight and the menu navigation which confused the hell outta me and was in no way intuitive. It got the flick early so now it's just down to the Norden or the Tiger 900 Rally Pro. If I could sum up the AT it would be "It's a looker. But it's a porker"...
@powertrip1050
@powertrip1050 9 ай бұрын
look at he Tuareg before you buy...20-30kg lighter than those beasts and awesome handling machine.
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@powertrip1050You’ve got good point on weight and the Tuareg is a great handling bike for less money, with nice TFT controls.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
It certainly is a looker mate
@andrewtreloar7389
@andrewtreloar7389 9 ай бұрын
Yes, the Toe-rag ticked a lot of boxes. I have thrown a leg over one but didn't like the ergos. Couldn't take one for a test as the dealer did not have a demo available. Compound that with the closest dealer being iver 200km away!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
@@andrewtreloar7389 yeah that sucks. I will definitely use Toe-rag from now 😂
@acquisitiongk
@acquisitiongk Ай бұрын
Love the channel and your riding! Really great stuff. You took that AT places I wouldn't - at least not on purpose. I have the 2024 AT base model and I wonder if they fixed or tweaked the ABS? I'm a pretty experienced dirt rider and use the AT for a fair amount of light to medium off road (flowy dual track) and spend most of my time ripping on dirt and gravel roads as much as possible. The AT is my first bike with ABS and I was pretty skeptical. However after 6500Km, have only felt the front ABS a few times and I find the rear Off road ABS to be very good. It allows you to lock it up and pulses just enough to keep you in a straight line. Hitting them together and i can stop pretty quick in most conditions. My current other bike is a WR250 as reference. No electronics at all. On the AT I turned off the Rear ABS for a little while one day - and on lock up, the back end swung around so fast I almost dropped it. I thought maybe it was the slippery track I was on. Then it happened to me a couple more times so Offroad ABS stays on for me now - until I get some knobbies at leasrt I also find the electronics pretty straightforward. Yeah there's lots of buttons but once you understand the logic it makes sense. I read the manual twice and set up my modes once and its seamless for me to shift between modes while riding to suit the conditions or mood. Just another opinion in case any one is on the fence. its a big bike but very capable as Curtis has shown.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel Ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I'm yet to ride the new model, keen too though. Sounds like you've got a good mix of bikes with the wr250 and big AT
@Sstevenflorido
@Sstevenflorido 9 ай бұрын
It’s a cool bike, and now that it is tubeless I am thinking on buy one. I Currently own the Tuareg 660, do you think it’s worth it the change to the Africa twin? I do mostly off road tracks, greetings from Colombia!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
I like the Tuareg more, still my pick of the ADV bikes so far. I wouldn't change if you're doing mostly off-road. Touring? Yeah the AT is better on the highway because of the extra engine
@joelrick6615
@joelrick6615 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if the ABS comment is related to the wheelie control not being set to 0? I ride a 2022 manual shift on hard off-road and haven’t had abs issues. I will go ride some rough hills and see if I can cause the front to lock up. The thing has a lot of features you need to turn off to ride off-road. Once you dial it in, it is excellent. And yes it is top heavy for sure. Slow technical takes skill and crash bars are required. I recommend adding barkbusters, skid plate and tires to suit your terrain. I use Anakee wild knobbies. They can do the dirt and are speed rated. The bike is fun to ride fast, so speed rating matters. Note the factory hard panniers are not suitable for off-road. Go soft luggage or you will break the mounting brackets off. I did. Enough watching. I am going riding!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 3 ай бұрын
Good to hear from an owner mate. Are you enjoying yours?
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 9 ай бұрын
Nice assessment of the AT Curtis. 👍
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Pinkie
@briangaskill8348
@briangaskill8348 9 ай бұрын
I think your review is great, but testing this bike on stock tires in the places you rode it isn't realistic for anyone who plans to ride it offroad. The front abs is not an issue if you switch the tires to a Motoz Dual Venturer something similar up front. I can't comment about the fiddly electronics since my AT is a 2017 model. Air filter replacement is also not a big deal. They don't get very dirty and don't need replacment very often where ride.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
I'd be super keen to try it with off-road tyres, can only comment on what I had unfortunately. Good to hear about the air filter from an owner, nearly all the owners don't think it's an issue
@migo33
@migo33 Ай бұрын
There are many adv bikes on he market but the numbers don't lie, the AT is a top seller across the globe because it's just good and reliable. Air filter is a 10 min job. ABS saved my life a few times. TFT and instrument cluster is idiotic at best 😊
@gabegillman2260
@gabegillman2260 9 ай бұрын
really like your videos mate keep it up
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@bobanppvc
@bobanppvc 7 ай бұрын
When started researching what adv bike to buy i said no to Africa Twin.But as week passed after many many hours of research i put this bike on first place.It do everything good like 8-8.5/10.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 7 ай бұрын
It's a good all-rounder for sure
@iangriffiths9930
@iangriffiths9930 9 ай бұрын
I’d love the big CRF but out of reach for me. Interested to see how you get on with the 450MT
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Very keen for that too. The price is certainly right
@iangriffiths9930
@iangriffiths9930 9 ай бұрын
It’s a lot easier to send a less expensive bike down a trail than an expensive one 😁👍
@decoycreativedistractions
@decoycreativedistractions 9 ай бұрын
Well that’s a first… I’ve never seen a reviewer have so much fun on a bike, then say “nah, I wouldn’t buy one” and practically says “and neither should you”… geez you’re hard to please. 😂 As an actual AT owner, none of the issues you had… or perceived you’d have [you didn’t actually change a filter] are an issue against owning one. The only complaint I had is the seemingly backwards power indicator… but it makes sense to me now. 😅 I’m firmly in camp “Africa Twin is phenomenal” and I wouldn’t swap it for anything.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Its a good bike! If it wasn't for the ABS, I'd be in and put up with the stuff I didn't love. No doubt the tyres didn't help either, would love to try it with a good set of hoops
@retiredwaterdoctor
@retiredwaterdoctor 9 ай бұрын
very agile, but a little big for my taste....surprised how well it did in the enduro style riding.....then you have the skills to dance with the big lady. Great review...did they charge you for the hand guard? Garth
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
She's a big girl. I just ended up buying one, it's my first bike from Honda and I don't want to give the wrong impression
@Africatwinrider1
@Africatwinrider1 9 ай бұрын
Great vid, great bike, I still have my 2016 base model, the rarest of them all, the non ABS model, yes they exist, approaching 50 000km and still in love, don't need anything else, it's perfect for me but it has been breathed on. No electronics, no ride by wire, no apple bla bla bla
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Hens teeth that one mate
@Africatwinrider1
@Africatwinrider1 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel yeah mate, you'd love it, last of the big analogue adv bikes, I also hate ABS
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
@@Africatwinrider1 hang on to that one bud
@MikeZakovsek
@MikeZakovsek 4 ай бұрын
I have an AT dct 22 model, but..... I might sell it and buy an BMW F900GS. AT seems heavy and i really want tubeless tires...it's a bloody good bike but I prefer something a bit lighter and build quality seems better on GS .. @OnTheBackWheel What do you think about this decision? it is worth it ? ...cheers !
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 4 ай бұрын
Good question. Since you've got the dct that does weigh a bit more. The new base model AT has tubeless and is lighter so that's an option too. I'm actually riding a 900 today for my commute so I'll see how it feels. Sitting on it, still a big bike but as you said, beautifully put together. Look at the Tuareg too, it will be a very noticeable weight difference and is fantastic
@christianmouraux7269
@christianmouraux7269 7 ай бұрын
Good review’ thanks. Which Adv bike would you buy?
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 7 ай бұрын
Cheers, Aprilia Tuareg
@lequan8766
@lequan8766 2 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheeli do like the tuareg but Aprillia deaer in Vietnam is insane 😢😢😢 the Africa twin is ~409 million vnđ ~ 16k usd while the tuareg is about 20k usd beside there is honda dealer in every town (not big bike but small scooter) while in Vietnam there are only 2 Aprillia dealer
@peterprzywara5258
@peterprzywara5258 9 ай бұрын
nice review I bought a switch off Ali Express and wired it into my abs fuse so I can turn the abs off on my CF Moto 800 mt going down big off-road hills made it outright dangerous as the abs kicks in and you can,t turn it goes straight and you end up on the ground.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Good idea mate
@flipfpv4539
@flipfpv4539 9 ай бұрын
thanks Curtis love your honesty
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@kennyb7883
@kennyb7883 3 ай бұрын
Umm...you can deactivate ABS, traction control & wheelie control, all with one button, takes 5.3 seconds to deactivate all 3.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 3 ай бұрын
If you know how (besides pulling the fuse), please share!
@carlogigante5239
@carlogigante5239 8 ай бұрын
You know what? It isn't the lightes or the most powerful or the most accessory packed. But it works, and you know it will keep on working forever. Unlike bikes that look better and might actually ride a little bit better on and offroad.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 8 ай бұрын
It's definitely a good all-rounder
@oldstylemoto
@oldstylemoto Ай бұрын
What year is the review bike 23 or 24 ?
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel Ай бұрын
Technically a 24 build but not the updated model
@SomewhereInside
@SomewhereInside 9 ай бұрын
Would like to see more tests on budget lighter bikes , ie 450 RL , 300 rally . If I had the cash , yeah a bike like this would be tempting , but the thing is it weighs too much . It’s fine where you won’t likely drop it ie roads , fire trails , gravel roads …but where you personally ride it , how is an older guy or skinny younger guy going to pick this thing up when it goes down? If we think about it …these bikes aren’t trail bikes , they are road gravel bikes , if you crash , a motorist stops and helps you pick it up , or the ambulance is called and a tow truck arrives . The reason we see these Africa Twins , multistradas , Triumph 900 pros ect , sitting on the used bike lots with about 5000kms or less on them …is because new cashed up adventure riders soon figure it out . We need lighter 160 kg or less dual sport bikes , they can still handle the roads at this weight , and can be picked up when dropped on trails or non gravel ect . Did a 160 km loop Saturday on my 300 stock rally , up a double track 800m easy climb with whoops , back road rough bitumen , a meandering forest road, and 30 km of motorway , where the rally cruised at 100kmph at 5000rpm , and was no louder than my Versys 650 at that speed . Average 3L per 100 kms . The bike looks still brand new after almost 3000 kms . $10000 ride away . Go Honda 😊
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
I'm going to be testing the lighter bikes soon. And yep, definitely more for touring and basic off-road
@THENKDRCR
@THENKDRCR 9 ай бұрын
Nice review 👌 It's still on my short-list.. The suspension alone is a massive tick.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Cheers mate. Definitely a good machine
@pigmeal2224
@pigmeal2224 9 ай бұрын
Good onya for mentioning fuel economy mate. It's rare for folks to do this, oddly enough. On a bike that has touring credentials I find this surprising. I know you only gave an average, but at least it's ballpark, and it's a question I, for one, will always have ... 👏👏👏 PS, the VStrom BLITZES it, as you'd know!! 😈😈
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
The big v-strommer holds up well! The economy isn't too bad on the highway, but yeah...not great
@decoycreativedistractions
@decoycreativedistractions 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, in my experience with my ATAS… I average 3.8 to 4.4 litres per 100k’s… and I’m not gentle on the throttle. Being 24.8ltr capacity [on the Adv Sport] I get a lot of distance on a tank. 😂
@pigmeal2224
@pigmeal2224 9 ай бұрын
@@decoycreativedistractions jeez, that's pretty damned good decoy 😯👌👌
@eliasstergiou3051
@eliasstergiou3051 4 ай бұрын
could you test the 2024 model to tell us the difference??
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 4 ай бұрын
I'm trying, getting radio silence from them 😭
@eliasstergiou3051
@eliasstergiou3051 4 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel same all over the world...I am In Greece and although they selling it there is not a test ride!!
@virginialax03
@virginialax03 8 ай бұрын
This isnt the 2024 is it? I noticed the smaller windscreen
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 8 ай бұрын
It's not the updated model no. Technically a 24, but really it's a 23
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 9 ай бұрын
I will never buy a bike that takes half a day to remove and clean your air filter.Much better bikes out there eg:TRiumph 900 RP,GS's etc.(Take note Desert X as well).
@pigmeal2224
@pigmeal2224 9 ай бұрын
I second that 100%. The VStrom DE is just a perfect fit for me, and that filter access .... sigh 💖💞👌👌. Looked looong and hard at the AT base model - they're almost identical in weight, but idiotic switchgear and airbox access that sucks badly really stitched it up.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
I agree
@chrisbruno9104
@chrisbruno9104 9 ай бұрын
Just for information... its like 30 minutes and not "a half day". I did it by myself last week. Like 7 screws on both sides and your there. Its not perfect but for this great allrounder-bike i like to take this little "problem". 🤷‍♂️
@konstantinw.1036
@konstantinw.1036 5 ай бұрын
Triumph to honda lololol. U will drive 3 triumphs or more at the same life time on the honda.
@eboy536
@eboy536 6 ай бұрын
Honda Africa Twin anywhere you can go 🎉
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 6 ай бұрын
She's a good bike 👊
@lequan8766
@lequan8766 Ай бұрын
Im 5”7, it the seat too high for me 🤔🤔🤔
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel Ай бұрын
The low seat setting is pretty manageable, you should be right
@brrraaaapp8502
@brrraaaapp8502 9 ай бұрын
lol the difference between proper hand-guards and flimsy hand-winddeflectors :)
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Lol yep
@thorstentrapp274
@thorstentrapp274 9 ай бұрын
Watched all the AT reviews out there...yours here is the best...cheers. Really like this bike and considering going for it. However, I'm concerned about its weight (myself tall, but skinny...average riding skills at best). Unfortunately there's not much around. T7 top-heavy and dated...looks great though. Transalp...just sooo boring. Triumph Tiger 900 Rally, not really light either, looks great, rake not really enough for the dirt imo (correct me if I'm wrong...again, average rider, on the other hand generous suspension travel...does this make sense?), Suzuki V-Strom 800...well quite heavy too...and boring. What's left? KTM 790/890 Adv imo. Weight down low, exciting engine, great electronics, more suitable for the dirt than all the other ones mentioned...but, what's the reliability like? Maybe you can do a review on the Tiger 900 Rally Pro...would be interesting what you think about its off-road capabilities/suitability. Edit: Found a Tiger 900RP video of yours...no mentioning of issues with its rake...hmm...guess your riding skills are maybe compensating for that.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Cheers mate. My recommendation for most people is the Tuareg, light and stupidly capable. Can completely understand peoples hestitation due to it not being Japanese though
@thorstentrapp274
@thorstentrapp274 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel, cheers mate. Yeah, the Tuareg seems to be a really good bike. Currently in South America...don't even know where to get it...let alone potential issues when needing support in case of issues...quite exotic bike in the end.
@Milan-yw6rm
@Milan-yw6rm 9 ай бұрын
You spoiled us. Great video againg. Thank you and all the best!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@BuckingFastard
@BuckingFastard 9 ай бұрын
I think I still want one, just gonna find a way to disable ABS.
@decoycreativedistractions
@decoycreativedistractions 9 ай бұрын
Trust me, it’s wouldn’t be an issue for 98% of riders.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
The AT is still hanging around my house, I'll try pulling the fuse if it stays and see what happens
@HavaCrack
@HavaCrack 9 ай бұрын
Don't want abs or traction control and just a 1000cc bike the buy a crf1000l. No modes, no nothing, no fancy tft, no apple caraway, no android auto; just brake, clutch, throttle, speed, fuel, what more do you need?
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Sounds pretty good to me
@Pambos46
@Pambos46 9 ай бұрын
With more than 3000 africa sold last year only to Italy and in the top ten in French motorcycle sales I think the answer is yes. Consumers know better
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Owners seem to really like them
@christophepoteaux3932
@christophepoteaux3932 9 ай бұрын
I think the 1000cc version from 2015-1019 was a better option for barebone adventure /off road bike. Honda walked away from the core of the Africa Twin with all the electronic wizardry.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
I do like how it had the button to turn abs off
@SkozzaAU
@SkozzaAU 9 ай бұрын
hmm im thinkin you are too used to power if an 1100 isn't exciting enough for you lol.. you should ride a 250cc as a commuter for awhile then jump back on it. i was surprised to hear that coz I've watched a guy who had one of these and it absolutely ripped if he wanted it too. was fun to watch, that's how i knew you still had TC on first ride because it just wasn't performing like I've seen they can. im still in the no camp but thats simply because im too old and too unfit for a big adv bike.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Mate TC was off on all rides and my previous bikes were a KLR650 and KLX250, both slow as hell! It goes well, but in comparison to the competition I thought it would have more
@SkozzaAU
@SkozzaAU 9 ай бұрын
im sure you mentioned you had tc on still with first ride. ill rewatch coz maybe im wrong.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
@@SkozzaAU it was rear abs in the very first part. Changed it after a little. It still rips off road
@SkozzaAU
@SkozzaAU 9 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel ah ok, i must've misunderstood when i watched it, i thought it was TC restricting power but maybe it was wrong rider mode.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
@@SkozzaAU yeah I had the soft power delivery on the one, my bad (and confusing settings to be fair). That was the first day I had it and I've had it for over a month since. Don't get me wrong, it still goes well, but a Tiger 900 rips and so do some of the others. No doubt this will outlast them all though
@mikeross7725
@mikeross7725 9 ай бұрын
I would never buy this bike but as always I’m interested in your opinion.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Cheers Mike 🤘
@jeffrey1074
@jeffrey1074 4 ай бұрын
bike is ok out of the box, but after you replace springs it turns into a beautiful machine!!! OEM springs are very mushy
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 4 ай бұрын
Good to know. I knew a couple of owners who changed their shock and updated the forks, they loved it
@jeffrey1074
@jeffrey1074 4 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel I chose hyper pro front and rear Cost was minimal. Cause I did it myself
@matthewriley9363
@matthewriley9363 9 ай бұрын
Love your honesty bud I think I will stick to my pan America
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. Mean machine the big HD
@AndyPat239
@AndyPat239 9 ай бұрын
not in the adventure market, at least not yet. but would probably look at the transalp before this 😊
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Certainly a boat load cheaper
@joseaam29
@joseaam29 9 ай бұрын
Buenas, en comparación con v strom 800de tira mucho calentor el motor de la africa? Y la potencia del motor se nota mucho? Tengo una 800 de y la moto va genial pero en el futuro quiero una africa twin,merece la pena el cambio?
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
The Africa Twin is a better bike all round. Not sure I wouldn't change to one though from the 800DE. Maybe to the upcoming model, the updates like very nice
@crispinleslie
@crispinleslie 9 ай бұрын
Its a no from me. I would be willing to pay for the Honda build quality and reliability- but I would avoid this and many modern adventure bikes because I have an aversion to gizmos. If Honda would reintroduce the basic no frills Dakar I would buy one tomorrow.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Bizarre that there isn't an option to turn it off
@Howdowork
@Howdowork 7 ай бұрын
How tall are you?
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 7 ай бұрын
183cm or 6ft
@Hazza.alhouqani
@Hazza.alhouqani 9 ай бұрын
I do buy 😊
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
Enjoy!
@PeterWright-l8k
@PeterWright-l8k 9 ай бұрын
Just a warning from factory thay don't lube the throttle twist tube ride by wier throttle James open on a DCT HOLD ON BECOULS YOUR ALONG FOR THE RIDE OVE YOUR LIFE AND A FRESH UNDERWHERE F,N OMG OWNERS BE HAWER
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 9 ай бұрын
It’s a big no! lol 🤣 Let’s see some CFMoto 450 mt action 🏍️💨💨💨🙌 for a 1/3 of the price 🎉
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
The price is bloody good!
@borissh9932
@borissh9932 7 ай бұрын
Why don’t you pull the fuse out of the box thus deactivating ABS. Enjoyed the review!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 7 ай бұрын
Cheers mate. I thought about it but wanted to test it as is. Probably should have for future videos TBH
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 7 ай бұрын
Cheers mate. I thought about it but wanted to test it as is. Probably should have for future videos TBH
@SaulOsuna-ox9ry
@SaulOsuna-ox9ry 9 ай бұрын
Africa twin
@ScottHintz
@ScottHintz 8 ай бұрын
I guess the different color sliders, frame, and sub-frame are a European thing.
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 8 ай бұрын
Are they different there?
@ScottHintz
@ScottHintz 8 ай бұрын
@@onthebackwheel The white ones I've seen here have silver sliders black frames and white sub-frames.
@stevesane800
@stevesane800 9 ай бұрын
What? 450MT?? You’ll kill that for sure crazy man Curtis 🔥 But… you could buy 2 & still have a shit ton of fun ripping the shit out of ‘em! Damn handguards, you never have fun with those! Cheers legend 🤙
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
They sure are cheap mate! And yep, no idea why they bother with the crappy hand guards...
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 9 ай бұрын
CFMoto 450 mt is a new bike. It looks pretty decent on paper but haven’t seen any reviews yet.
@ValentinBeeeeee
@ValentinBeeeeee 5 ай бұрын
Tenere 700 🗿
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 5 ай бұрын
Also good!
@sheafrank4816
@sheafrank4816 9 ай бұрын
Thank God lololololol
@robsonenduro3316
@robsonenduro3316 9 ай бұрын
dude, build quality sucks!
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 9 ай бұрын
I find its good, not amazing. Why do you say it sucks?
@patrickkennedy7756
@patrickkennedy7756 9 ай бұрын
Front ABS has almost killed me twice on a previous bike. I ended up pulling the ABS fuse out to shut it down. I will not own a bike unless I can defeat both front and rear ABS. ABS is DANGEROUS and the trend needs to stop, but due to politics it wont.
@watchinguclose
@watchinguclose 2 ай бұрын
How to Deactivate ABS kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4fHhIiQobapbcksi=cWk8WMqjaQdDeLSN
@onthebackwheel
@onthebackwheel 2 ай бұрын
I became an expert at that in the end!
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