5 Reasons to Buy a 2016-2019 Africa Twin CRF1000L in 2021

[@BigRockMoto]

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[@metodyx7507]

In my opinion, the Honda A.Twin CRF1000L is absolutely too heavy for off road (232 kg - 534 lbs). Less than 19 liters (4.96 US gal) is definitely another added minus in terms of consumption. By no means can such a motorcycle be the best or one of the best options to buy (for its class). Tenere XT660Z is a much better choice.

[@peterson9965]

The design n everything else on African twin is awesome. The only problem! It's unaffordable to Africans . Have never seen it in my country though am African. I don't understand

[@alexandrult.685]

Hello !! can you help me please with a piece of advice ? it is ok as a beginner to purchase this motorbike ? can you provide me a website where i can buy this type of motorbike from usa ? thank you and have a good day !

[@metodyx7507]

@@alexandrult.685 It is absolutely suitable for a beginner, but you need to ask yourself where and how you will ride with it. It’s not the fastest, even acceleration isn’t something you’ll be able to put up with, it’s not the most attractive to look at. However, if you want a useful motorcycle that is easy to maintain, with which you can ride well off-road, then you will be thrilled! Unfortunately, I can't advise where to buy it in America, I'm European.

[@alexandrult.685]

@@metodyx7507 hello ! man thanks for the advices. i`m not a speedy gonzalez type of guy. i prefer to enjoy the ride. take back-roads the the true beauty is. 100-120km/h i find extremely comfortable. i`m more into range than power. that`s why i`m looking for something i can afford maintenance, i can carry some luggage and do a little off road shortcuts :D ( and fishing :))) )

[@garthlundquist3623]

I purchase a 2017 Africa Twin standard model new, and continue to be pleased with it. Ian covers all significant aspects of the bike very well. The newer versions of the AT have more features and complications, but I really prefer the simpler earlier models. The 21/18” wheel set and 27.5 degree steering rake combined with long travel suspension are what make this bike special. I am 68 and can confidently take the AT off road, albeit at slower speeds than a competitive KTM 790/890. I ride a KTM 500 aggressively in hard enduro terrain several times a week, so I know what that is all about. The AT handles like a big dirt bike, has an excellent standing position, and is a superb all rounder. Selecting the right tires for this bike really can improve performance for specific conditions. Forget the extreme off road videos about the AT. There are better bikes for that. This is a comfortable and well rounded exploration bike packed with Honda goodness. As Ian mentions, the stable chassis and excellent handling are strong attributes that keep you upright and safe. Think of the AT as the Labrador Retriever of adventure bikes. Strong, reliable, and lovable.

[@BigRockMoto]

so well said!

[@EnriqueReyesJrREALTOR]

What modifications or upgrades did you do to your AT? I plan in the future to picking one up. What tires do you recommend? I plan on doing 50/50 street/dirt. I’m not going to race it, I’m just going to enjoy it. All my past bikes have been naked 1,000 cc, & 1,200cc bikes.

[@4kiselevmaximENG]

@@BigRockMoto What do you say about new Africa after 2020?

[@zyonsdream]

I have a 2017 AT that I bought in 2019 with less than 2k on the clock. Upgraded the skid plate, added Mosko Moto panniers, crash bars and a few other goodies. I just rolled 40k on the clock this weekend. I’ve done the MABDR and most of the NEBDR with it. It’s my daily commuter as well, even when the temps get into single digits. This is the first motorcycle (I’ve owned around 25) that’s my first “forever” bike. Heck, just bought a new Pan America Special for long distance touring. Going to Pittsburgh (900 miles round trip) this weekend and I’m taking the Africa and leaving the Pan Am at home.

[@letitrest4662]

Sounds like a good idea, leaving the Pan America behind. I've read the details about the Pan's engine. Three balance shafts ? Harley can't get things right with simple designs. Now they add more monkey motion in their engines ? They're definitely masters of marketing. Time shall tell. There's an old saying, "keep it simple".

[@antonioreyes3028]

Did you have any issues with stiction of the front forks? It seems many high mileage owners have no complaints about it.

[@zyonsdream]

@@antonioreyes3028 not that I can tell. It’s got 46k on the clock now and she rebounds like she did when she was new. I think a lot of people who have “issues” think they are Pols Terres or Valentino Rossi. I’ve never once upgraded a suspension and I’ve owned 25 bikes. Get on it and ride!

[@ianross225]

Hi, you’ve given me the nudge to try one. Is yours a DCT?

[@F4682-v6s]

How is the wind protection on the highways? Do you get a lot of buffeting on your helmet? or is it not that bad as people say

[@stephaneracine2116]

The ABS off mode can be maintain when you cut the engine. Here is the procedure. Each time the ignition switch is turned to the ON position, the ABS function on both wheels will automatically be turned on [ACTIVE], but the ABS will maintain the rear wheel [CANCEL] off-function when engine stopped by using the engine stop switch. Very useful to know.

[@stephaneracine2116]

Yes you can maintain ABS OFF by turning OFF the engine with the RED button on your right (The same to start) Do not use the key to stop the engine! Page 118 of the manual SECTION : ABS function on the rear wheel The ABS function on the rear wheel can be optionally turned off for off-road riding. You can turn off the rear wheel ABS function in [OFF ROAD MODE], [USER 1 MODE] or [USER 2 MODE]. u Each time the ignition switch is turned to the ON position, the ABS function on both wheels will automatically be turned on [ACTIVE], but the ABS will maintain the rear wheel [CANCEL] off-function when engine stopped by using the engine stop switch.

[@briangaskill8348]

i bought a lightly used 2017 Africa Twin DCT with only 3000 miles on it this past March. i absolutely love it and now have 13,000 miles on it. It has been fantastic on and off road and dead reliable. Other than burning gas and tires, its been a dream.

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Your bike reviews are so comprehensive, I feel like I've actually ridden the bikes! I can hold a detailed technical conversation with any biker based solely on your channel's info. I'm seriously thinking of getting back into bikes after several years lay-off due to a leg injury. Hmmm...

[@Expandacraftboats]

I just bought a slightly used 2018 African Twin today 2/14/22 based on your videos. Was almost ready to buy the KTM 1100 for the same 13K but when I put the two side by side it was clear that I should chose the Honda. Firstly because I'm a 57 year old man who isn't going to push a bike to the limit any longer, (too old for that shit). I'm 6,2' and 230 lbs so the T7 with a passenger would be bottoming out on a speed bump and well, I have the funds to buy whatever the hell I want and I like nice things. The bike I got has all sorts of expensive upgrades too. Touring seat, crash bars, bash guard, side bags, rear rack, headlight guard, fat kickstand foot and the list goes on and on. Probably would be about 23K if a new bike had all that and my used bike only has 10 K miles on it. No dealer prep charge, no destination charge, and it a freaking Honda! I don't want a bike I have to have in the shop from time to time waiting on parts from who knows where. Thanks for the fantastic work you do to help folks like me make informed decisions on very important purchases.

[@MrJasonmay69]

From watching your comparison between old and new AT i think i prefer the no-fuss simplicity of the 2016 model. Thanks for all of the no fluff, comprehensive reviews. 👍

[@marcready6369]

I toured Australia on my XR250, XL600, & NX650. Much of it was off-road - particularly for the first two bikes. I am looking for another bike for my time in Japan, and the Africa Twin, whilst being a bit pricey, is a safe and natural choice for me. You did a good and helpful review. Thanks.

[@nick1bb1]

Great vid! - One thing which almost never seems to be considered when buying a bike is how well it actually fits your own size/frame (in particular when you stand up on it) I've had dozens of bikes over the years and currently have the ATAS - one of the main reasons is that at 6ft 2ins (in bare feet) the ATAS actually lets me ride it off road without being bent double - even more so that the standard AT. I'd like to try a T7 but i suspect it might not be tall enough but would prefer a lighter bike. Having said that i never take a full tank of fuel if I'm going off road its got plenty of range even on half a tank!

[@buffalobill324]

I bought a 2018 mod with 9000km. Absolutely love riding this bike. Smooth and comfortable. Handles real well. A very nice looking adventure bike.

[@robertfinegan1941]

Had GS’s for 20 years. Sold my 1200Adv as it was getting a bit heavy to lug round. Got a test ride on a 2017 AT and never took it back! 6000mls, 1 owner, loads of extras. Absolutely brilliant. Most of my riding will be on road. Rob 67yrs

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

I think you got away with it. They wont be looking for you now, 4 years later.

[@robcampbell3235]

@@MotoGuzziMoto well-done amigo!

[@arminwendt4568]

Make sure the Adventure Sport model you buy has had the recall done on the fuel cell. I was almost killed on the freeway when my AT died suddenly due to fuel starvation. Almost run over by another vehicle during a passing maneuver. I cleaned the tank and replaced the stock filtration with a Guglatech set. Problem free motorcycle since. DCT model. Love it. Previous GS owner...

[@Yutter89]

What year model was that for?

[@arminwendt4568]

@@Yutter89 2019

[@wanderlpnw]

It's a great touring/gravel/light offroad bike. I rented a '19 and enjoyed it. Probably great offroad for a better rider than me who is fit enough to pick it up multiple times.

[@catdaddy3302]

You helped me to decide on buying a 2019 Africa Twin. I’ve been researching them for the past week. I went to dealer and sat on one with only 2,600 miles on it. It felt perfect. I have a 32” inseam, and sat on it with my feet flat. I’ve owned two GS(s), a 1100 and a 1200. They have issues I don’t have time to go into here. (One being the seat height.) And I owned a 2019 Tiger 800. It wasn’t big enough for me. This one seems like a good in between. I haven’t ridden it yet. It seems like a good 50/50 kinda bike. I live in The Ozarks of Arkansas, and I think this will be perfect for where I live. Thanks for posting this video. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@BigRockMoto]

thanks!

[@ahhhhchoo]

Seems like for 95% of these 2016-2019, people are asking $11k - $12k. And definitely not set up like yours, they're mostly or completely stock. Hoping I can find a deal like yours eventually. Thanks for the informative overview, subscribed.

[@BigRockMoto]

Where are you located? I just bought a T7 for the channel, I need to sell this bike now. [e-mail] to get in touch

[@0HARE]

@@BigRockMoto Have you sold it yet?

[@maciejmaciej1718]

If you consider buying it, please take into account the following: it is a very heavy bike, difficult to pick up on your own and you have to have a proper off road boots (not Toucans or other flip flops but proper boots). It is top heavy. It has jerky throttle at low speed-non of you tube channels mentions it but it is a well known issue if you check more independent forums. While off roading it is very easy to add too much throttle (with obvious consequences) as it is very responsive and kind of on and off, jerky type. It is a great bike in many ways just don't decide to buy it based only on you tube channels. I took the bike off road a few times and decided not to buy it but before, watching endless you tube clips I was convinced it was a bike for me.

[@thunderfromsea]

After 5 months on waiting list for a T700 the local dealer dropped the last brand new 2019 AT to $9900. No brainer for me at that price. I’ve put 2k on it so far and love it. After riding the KTM 1290 the last couple years, this feels nimble and sleek. Good balance of off-road ability and pavement munching to get places afar.

[@PeterVred]

That’s the one I bought in March of 2020, when I couldn’t get a T7, got it for $9,964! Got 20k on it. No regrets

[@SebifastMr]

That's interesting. In Europe where I live I was able to get a T700 within less than a month in fall last year. I also tested a KTM 1090, and although certainly a bit lighter than a 1290 it was too tall and heavy for me, I feel more comfortable on the Tenere.

[@kennethpfeil8488]

Great deal on your ‘19 AT!!!

[@MacawAviculture]

Another incredible video, thank you! After owning a few KTM's: 2015 500 EXC, 2014 200 XC-W, 2013 250 XC-W and my recent 2018 350 EXC-F, I am no longer planning on buying a KTM. My 2018 350 was purchased from a KTM dealer that replaced the engine after the 'plastic' gear used in the engine failed. Plastic gear in a KTM? Total insanity! Since I no longer plan on technical off-road riding, I am in the market for a nice dual-sport bike. When I used to ride sport bikes up Angeles Crest and Ortega Highways in Southern CA back in the 80's and 90's, Honda was almost always my choice of sport bike. I even purchased a 1990 RC-30 that should still be in my garage but is not. Anyway, I think you are correct about the 2016-2019 Africa Twin. It is a beautiful bike and given the kind of riding that interests me now, I will keep my eyes open for one. Thank you again, you are among the best motorcycle journalists in the business!

[@martinbramston2244]

Great informative video Big Rock Moto! Bought my Australian Africa Twin new in 2016, got the faster, red and black one (old school manual gear change model). Fantastic road and off road bike, cant think of anything that I would like to replace it with . Longest day trip was 10 hours in the saddle and was glad to get off .Now has 30K klms on the clock and third set of tyres .Only problem from new, was replacing the poorly made wheel spokes after corroding inside 5K klms. Fixed under warranty twice and a faulty engine kill switch on the right hand grip. Apparently not adequately greased on the factory floor. Was a common complaint in this country. Otherwise its the best bike I have ever owned. Nearly 70 now !!! and unless the wife sells it from under me ,I will probably take it to the grave! Greetings from Sydney ,Australia.

[@gordonjames8811]

Wasn't aware of the wheel spoke problem maybe its the crocodile pee from crossing your rivers.what did you buy for replacement spokes? ty and Happy trails ahead

[@martinbramston2244]

@@gordonjames8811 Could be the crocodile pee....unfortunately the original spokes were not made of stainless steel and hence formed a corrosion on most the spokes ,front and rear, after contact with water. The local Honda rep arranged to replace them with the same batch of spokes that Honda wanted to get out of their warehouse stock . They too corroded within 2000 klms and Honda Australia, in their wisdom replaced them a third time ,at their expense and my inconvenience, with stainless steel spokes. The local mechanic at the Honda dealership shook his head in disbelief at such poor handling of a warranty claim as he was the one to reset the wheels both times .I knew of 3 other Africa twin owners in my local region who had the same problem with these spokes. Still a great bike though!

[@PapaDougsAdventures01]

Great Job. I just bought the 2021 GSA and took it off road for the first time and it is BIG. The Africa twin may be a good alternative for around North Idaho and Eastern Washington kicking around,. Keep up the great reviews I’m enjoying them

[@traviscarter9300]

Just bought a 2015 KTM 1290 SA with 24k on it for $9500. It's in really great shape with all the goods already on it. Luggage, custom touring seat, new chain and sprockets. Will be used for mainly road touring but some off road here and there. Thing is a torque monster. Hope I made a good choice. 🤞

[@dwoodinnyc]

I really wished you had talked about the changes made from 17-18 mainly the fly by wire throttle introduced in 18. That is a big selling point for some inmo. That’s why I will never give up my 17. Ever!

[@glennhuish3806]

Bingo! Bought my 2016 in January this year, after spending a couple of months comparing different biks and coming to a lot of the same conclusions you have here. Really nice sweet spot of price/performance/reliability. It's simply the Honda of the category. Got it for $9K with just over 9k miles and some nice extras- factory panniers and top case, crash bars, aux lights etc. There were several around the SF bay / Nor Cal area at the time but everything seems to have dried up since then, I think I got lucky on the timing as the Great Everything Shortage of 2020-21 doesn't seem to be slowing. Good vid!

[@alexandergotz5568]

The Africa Twin feels a lot heavier than the Tenere 700! It makes a world of difference, especially when maneuvering or when you've got stuck. This year I immersed my 2018 Twin for a new Tenere at the dealership. Off-road, the Tenere is the better choice. Unfortunately, on the highway you already notice 20 hp difference ...

[@Parakitedude]

I completely agree with you.

[@DoggerDon111]

Isn't the Tenor more top heavy?

[@portapawl5396]

I was looking pretty hard at the T7 last year when I figured out how hard they were to get. I ended up buying a low mileage 2017 AT with upgraded crash protection and saddlebags for less than 10k. When you consider the current market, taxes, and upgrades to the T7 it was just a way better deal to go with the yesteryear AT.

[@someguy5035]

Just sold my 2020 AT yesterday. I feel your pain on the menu system on the 2020 and up. Honda made it really annoying. The big ADV bikes quit being worth all the trouble to me these days. Bought a 300L Rally and couldn't be happier.

[@dougtroutman5695]

I'm going to buy a 2019 africa twin, they are a good price. After watching this video it helped me to decide on buying it. I've had honda motorcycles for years. Currently riding a 2010 goldwing. I've had an older goldwing I bought new, go over 300,000 miles with hardly any trouble.

[@alvinplummer9308]

Had may CRF for 5 years love it

[@mart7404]

Great video and agree. I was also drawn to a Tenere but it appears that availability will be way off into the horizon. I ended up with a Moto Guzzi V85TT for the time being. Not near as off-road capable but it’s been fun to ride and surprisingly good. Old school engine that is pretty simple and I like it’s not a bike seen every day. Cheers mate

[@bluffite2277]

Just bought the V85 TT also. Centenario. Enough off toad capability for me and tons of character! AT looks great too though.

[@BigRockMoto]

love the guzzi

[@TheSocialliberal]

I was totally looking at the V85 because i love how it looks. However, air cooled engines down here in south Florida are kind of a big no no.

[@sanatandharma4435]

I've just ridden my brothers Arfica Twin DCT, he came over to Spain where I live from the UK. He loves it! So do I!! I rode it out of town to the motorway and back and found it intuitive, apart from locating the indicator switch!!! 'Beep'...I kept hitting the horn button" Beautiful to look at, plenty of grunt and handled well. No brainer for the money!

[@JGKohlenberg]

Great video! I’m a long time BMW rider that bought a new 2018 AT Adventure Anniversary edition with the DCT. I Love this bike! With 2+yrs and some thousands of miles I like it as much as I did the first day :) If you’re looking used I can attest that they are wonderful.

[@rogermatthew8125]

I just purchased the 2017 Africa twin from a good friend of mine who's owned it since it was new and knowing how he takes care of things and also knowing the quality of Honda machines I bought it even though it was high mileage that 43,000 miles. He had the suspension upgraded. I have put about 8,000 miles on it in the last couple months at least 50% of that was on dirt since I live in Durango Colorado I have a lot of good mountain riding to do. I love the bike! Going to sell my Harley this coming spring.

[@adamg6199]

I did, I bought one well modified and well cared for 2016 model saved an absolute wad of cash. I have just completed upgrading for what I believe to be my best all road tourer i have ever owned and still saved about 5K from new for a stock one.

[@runtylerrun3898]

I have a 2018 AT I bought in 2020 myself. I have ridden all kinds of bikes on road and off road but, this honestly is the best bike I have owned yet. Haven't gotten a chance to ride a BMW R1200GS yet but, I can definitely say I'd loose sleep on the decision of getting rid of my AT. I absolutely love it. If you ever think about buying one..... just do it!

[@SoniaInternational]

Great looking bike. I actually like the looks and simplicity of these earlier bikes and they seem like a great value. Nice video!

[@jaymartinrealtor7736]

Today I purchased a 2017 AT for $8k with 10549 on the clock. Used to ride a BMW K100 and this is my first dive into a 50/50 bike. Thanks for the awesome review!

[@andrewlivingston92]

I love this. I’ve gone round and round looking at norden, tenere, Tuareg, v85tt, but I keep coming back to the AT. Tough choices.

[@colterino]

No choice at all Africa twin every time everything about it build power handling cost of maintenance reliability I had no questions whatsoever

[@marshall3498]

I personally have never ridden offroad myself. But I have been riding for 6 years now. I'm looking at getting a new royal Enfield Himalayan to for second motorcycle to start doing some offroad riding they are cheap and light and easy to ride for a offroad beginner.

[@zefferan0]

2023 and I bought '18 CRF1000L. I feel calm, happy and fulfilled. What a bike she is... my Queen.. my Africa Queen.

[@peter4334]

Love your videos and its been interesting to see you evolve and improve. Have Guzzi V85tt and love this bike on and off road. Stripped off the extra non essentials put on some 50/50 tires and I'm sitting on a 6 gallon fully fueled weight of 505 lbs. Lighter than the AT and shaft driven. Love the power output , smooth and simple ride modes that automatically and logically set power delivery, traction control and ABS for Road, Rain and Off-Road. Anyhow, the AT is a great bike and value I've owned many Honda's and they've all been bullet proof and fun to own.

[@bdraidian6280]

Welp I traded in my 2019 kTm 790 adventure in on a used 2016 africa twin because of this video. And I have only one thing to say...... THANK YOU!!!!!! The africa twin despite being older rides soooo much better on the street than the kTm. Haven't took the AT off road yet. The motor isn't as angry as my kTm but I actually like the power displacement on the Honda better than my kTm. Again.... thank you....

[@BigRockMoto]

Awesome. Glad it helped

[@marcusvaldes]

I'm a beginning rider and just picked up a CB500X (2021). The Africa Twin is something I hope to work up to one day! I'm with you, I LOVE the looks.

[@iceduckz]

I just got a 2016 AT with 7,000 miles on it for $10k in NorCal. Prices are kinda up but I'm very happy with my purchase. I wanted the T7, but I think I get more bike with the Africa Twin.

[@butcherknife59knife46]

2024 New years new bike to me!! 2019 Africa Twin Black and gold.. 4k tons of extras 2 set of tusk bags with tourTech crash bars and panniers. 4000 miles clean but not spotless! Needs my total cleaning. Took advantage of winter prices. Traveled 130miles on way but well worth it. Come on warm weather. Around Bend Oregon out on 2 wheels

[@paulheiner5635]

Thanks Ian. I met you at the last Flying Monkey Rally at Zion. Keep up the great content.

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks, will do!

[@mikemerrill175]

Ordered a 22 1250 GS last week. Was a tough call as a long time off roader who finally had to admit that gravel roads were about as “knarly” as I want it.

[@jeroenstienstra1409]

You hit the nail on the head with this review. Especially the simplicity is key for this model. We just arrived in Ushuaia (most southern tip Argentina) after a 25K miles 2 UP journey started from Anchorage (Alaska) on a 2017 model. No single issue with the Honda. I like Italian motorcycles but I didn't dare to take the trip with a Multistrada.

[@vic_d_10]

How was the crossing from Panama to Colombia?

[@jeroenstienstra1409]

@@vic_d_10 easy. We used Cargorider to cross. They arrange almost everything like TIP, flight of the bike and transport. We only had to buy our own flight tickets.

[@Land-Shark]

Spot-on assessment on the bike. I got lucky and got one for $9500usd as a new old stock at the end of 2020, which was $11,230 OTD price (Oregon has very high DMV title/registration fees for new vehicles, I think it almost $500 of the total cost). I do like the mechanical and electronics upgrades of the newer Africa Twins but, after finding out about the long wait people are enduring to get access to certain menu items at start-up, and the lack of TC button and ABS button, I'm glad I got the 2019.

[@biophillie]

I bought a leftover 2019 AT here in 2021. Paid 9k for a new AT. I love the bike. There are a lot of people asking which bike is the best. I don't care what is best. I care if i'm happy with the bike i have.. The AT isn't perfect. It's difficult to reach the air filters and some other stuff. It runs and handles great. It's hard to beat honda's reliability and availability of parts. With good off-road tires it's awesome for what i do (i live off-road). It's just heavy to pick up, as are most 1 liter plus bikes. Some people say they are down on power. Really? 95 HP 75 tq? Low 12's in the 1/4 mile is low on power? My '86 CR500 had around 60hp. It was fun and perfect power for racing with the best of them. Think for yourselves people. The honda AT is Badass..

[@rocket2811]

where did you get the 2019 ? which state ? thanks

[@gunnermitchell7339]

Just got a 2007 BMW GSA 1200 for 6k used with 45k miles and have been super happy with it about 3k miles of riding. Lots of road miles to get to beautiful scenery so havn't pushed the offroad like I will want too eventually but for the price I love it.

[@danamortensen43]

Bought a 2019 recently with 7500 miles, so far loving it.

[@CasperLCat]

This is great content for the real world, hiliting good value used bikes when the secondary mkt presents opportunities to buyers on a budget. More, please !

[@tomaskruger1716]

Timely as I continue my search for a mid-weight adventure bike.

[@woodsiethewestie6263]

Mid weight adv bike. I got the T7 and absolutely love it

[@hankwojo]

Well, I was fortunate enough to buy a new 2019 leftover AT in February of 2020 for $10,999. It's the manual transmission, NOT the DCT. Lucky for me I wanted the manual. The only downfall for me is that I'm in my late 60's and I feel that 500 lbs when I'm moving it around.

[@vicprice1666]

Henry, I'm just 72, and I know what you mean about the 500lbs ! I just had to change my Versys 1000 for the same reason. Fancied a Tiger 900 Rally Pro, but my creaky hips made it a struggle to get on board without using the footage. As most of my riding is now pavement, I went with the GT Pro and its shorter legs. Also like the AT, but I found it really heavy for some reason.

[@williamwyatt5777]

You young blokes give me hope 👀✊🏿

[@raycollington4310]

Good video, completely agree. KTM looks nice but I fear it would turn me into a mechanic. As you say, once you are familiar with AT fairing removal, getting into the valve check etc is all fairly simple and provides some fun stuff to do in winter. Thanks as ever from UK.

[@BartoszBanachewicz]

Ironically, dealing with issues is why I'd never pick a Honda over a KTM. KTM bikes are meant to be worked on, and the dealers make it really easy to get necessary parts in reasonable prices. Dealing with Honda dealers and the part costs mean I really don't want to own any newer Honda machine.

[@PeterVred]

Really nice to know my 2019 is worth good money. But I won’t let it go until I’m too old or beat up, to pick it up from a fall. At 68, that could be about any time. I’m getting a little stiff…

[@PeterVred]

It's 2024 now, I'm 70, and can't pick up the AT anymore. It's Jan 25th, I have a 2024 XL750 Transalp in the garage, and it's too cold and wet to get out for a while. I hope I made a good choice to replace the AT, which I have on Craigslist right. For only 50# lighter (unloaded), this bike is reasonably easy to pick up. Two years from now, I might be in the same shape again, and have to downgrade again. It's all fun!

[@BadDadio]

I bought a used 2016 AT DCT a few years ago. It’s enjoyable to ride. A few things that I don’t like are the glare from the silver handlebars on the display. The display can also be hard to read in bright sunlight. Another downside is that you have to set the ABS, G-mode, & traction control after every engine start. Changing the air filters is a real pain, especially if you have crash bars installed. I still have a long way to go before I outgrow the bike’s capabilities.

[@swiss_2k]

Issues with: 1. Front suspension 2. Heated grips 3. Gas tank, something pealing 4. Battery placement 5. Windshield mount 6. Kick stand 7. Food pad/stand 8. Can check at 15-20k and oil change each 5k km 9. Rear frame 10. Turn signal (buttons) ... Is this still a worth buying bike?

[@glyndwr1282]

Great vid . I’ve had 2 gsa 800’s and 2 gsa1200 lc one tiger 800 xcx and the at 2017 model is by far the better bike . Mines the dct model ex touratech display bike so come with all the extras to . I love it

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks for sharing

[@riaandewinnaar5040]

Just again awesome in-depth detail. Strengths, weaknesses, direct competitors... Everything covered. Should be a salesman, I want to buy it now.

[@jf7243]

Thanks fella. I have just sold my ST1300 and have a mate selling his 2016 AT which look the business for me. This confirms my choice!

[@Surly1966]

Now I want an AT. Is bike owning, viral or bacterial. For some reason since I bought my klr650, I keep looking at Goldwings, crotch rockets, dirt track 2 strokes and litre plus ATV bikes. So basically I’m buying back all the bikes I had years ago. When someone asks if I’m selling my KLR I’m appalled- NEVER! Thanks for the honest review, I’m a bigger guy and the only issue I had riding an AT was bottoming out -a lot. I passed one up recently now I’m kicking myself….

[@stephtraveler7378]

It is a great value, but factory cruise control and linked brakes on the 2020+ is worth it. This is an adventure touring bike. Having a real cruise control is nice.

[@johnratajczak1]

2017 Africa Twin absolutely love it. Can’t think of a bike I would replace it with

[@MrJoesphares]

I am looking at a 2018 africa twin with low miles and this video is so well done I think you've helped make the decision for me

[@mcfarm806]

Awesome stuff dude, really like your take on things. I moved from a 2016 Tiger 800 XC to a 2018 A-T based on some intermittent cranking issues with the Triumph. No regrets on the move, but it reaffirmed that there is no "unicorn" (i.e. perfect) bike. I love the one-touch ABS button as well as the off-road manners of the A-T, although my demo ride experience with the staggered firing order of the new Tigers indicates they're probably way better off-road than my 2016 was. I got a really good deal on the A-T and fully appreciate the reliability, durability, and dealer network of owning a Honda, but I'm not sure if it will be my forever bike.

[@curtistackley4529]

Thank you for the video. I have a lot of the same feelings about mine. I have the same 2016 in silver. I was working as a service manager at a Honda dealer. Almost 2 years ago a customer came in and traded it in because he wanted a newer DCT model. 7k for a 16’ with only 1,000 miles. All stock, never down. I couldn’t pass it up. Of course thousands of dollars later it’s now to my liking other than the suspension need some help. Race Tech will be coming soon. We’ve done a couple at work. It makes a huge difference. Other than the battery and air filter placement I am very pleased with this bike. The KTM 790/890 & Tenere T7 did a much better job in this area. It takes a lot of work to replace the air filters on a bike that is used off road.

[@MarkKeckeis]

I have a 2019 ATAS that I bought new. Just about to turn 10k miles. I really love this bike. Manual tranny and I put the speed shifter on it which I like a lot. I’m not a competitor - more of a wanderer who often sees gravel roads and wonders - ooo where does that go? The AT motor is butter on the road and off. The brakes are a little more squishy than I would like but I can make them work. Overall this bike is a keeper. Love the look, the ride and am having a lot of fun.

[@0HARE]

Thanks for another great episode. Man, you had me sold on the T7, but, this review has me sold on the Africa Twin. I saw a used on at my Honda dealer a couple weeks ago. It looked great. I think I’m going to ask them about it. I do love the look of the bike, also. The one I saw, in black, looked perfect. I am currently riding my old ‘06 KLR, and the new Honda CRF300 Rally. Happy Trails

[@theadventuresofaoneleggedf8352]

I just picked up 2016 with 2500 on the clock love this bike!!!

[@davidklatt2392]

I have a 2017 and love it . I've tried almost every adv out there and still cant justify buying a new bike.

[@TheSweetasanut]

One of the very best channels on u tube thorough assessment and reviews on adventure bikes

[@BigRockMoto]

Glad you like them!

[@matticusmac6452]

Great discussion Ian, I have missed these a lot. I am in the market for an Africa Twin after selling the 1190r, went to a drz650, ktm 950 and now I want the AT. I was going to buy it new in 2016 but couldn't pass on a deal on a used 1190. I think Africa Twin prices are really high, you got a deal at 8k

[@maya12211]

Ok great now I just have to find a 2019, its 2024 and they all seem to be around 11 tho. I found your video to be so good I do not want a newer model but instead a 2019 and to buy it with upgrades. Super cool thanks again.

[@356cruzer4]

Good review, appreciate your straightforward style, keep up the great work.

[@1962clarky]

I think I'd go the way you've gone. The African Twin looks great..

[@DARIVSARCHITECTVS]

If a bike is well made, mileage is not that big an issue. I bought a used BMW R1150GS ADV with 120,000 on it and it's been great because maintenance was maintained and rebuilds performed when required. It came with hard panniers, better seat, and other goodies for only $4000. Good deals are where you find them.

[@matevzgolja5637]

I have a 2020 model. New from the dealer. Grate bike but as you seed the screen suck at the star up, but for the rest is a grate bike. But if I head to buy a used one still the twin would rock my hart. Grate video keep on the good work. :)

[@timnisley5391]

Great review and comparisons. Very thorough and detailed. I appreciate and enjoy all your vids. Keep up the good work!

[@BigRockMoto]

Much appreciated!

[@blackbuttecruizr]

1st Gen AT definitely on my list for a more off road oriented ADV.

[@tkmhamburg6032]

One of your best videos so far, in my opinion. Thanks from Germany

[@johnsperka2253]

I’d love to have the A. Twin- used- waiting for KLR to die- But that waiting on the computer to let me ride- NO WAY- I’m sure the new ones are great but that screen would get hammered!

[@markgardner8542]

"waiting for the KLR to die"... Good luck w that! Let me know how it goes! Lol! I'm thinking I will just have to own BOTH until they die!

[@ezragliksman7521]

Just bought my 2019 Africa Twin with under 2,000 miles on it for $10,500! Got it for a steal! Absolutely love it. Best Bang for Buck in the ADV market.

[@BigRockMoto]

great!

[@campbellrousselle9752]

This is exactly what I bought, for almost exactly the same reasons. Mine is the base model, so no ABS, no TC. Magic. The only down-side so far is the gearbox. Mine is like a plastic bag full of broken hammers. False neutrals between 4th-5th. I even found one between 5th-6th. Also it locks up occasionally down shifting to first and sometimes sticks in second. Otherwise it seems pretty good. It could do with a pipe and a tune - they're a bit wimpy stock.

[@mototroter]

Yes U're damn right. I had AT 1000 manual, AT 1000 DCT and now have ATAS 1100 DCT. Every was very good and the last one is great but this TFT Android based Gameboy makes me sick. It's very slow and complicated. I bought it mainly because of Apple Car Play.

[@hardworkingamerican8847]

Honda also makes a thing called a car and real good ones at that ! Love those Twins but I think the 2020 is sweet .

[@imrealyshiesty]

And holding the traction control button turns it off completely, I do that every time i get on the bike. I like when the rear wheel can spin freely 😂

[@MGBranco]

I had the old model RD07 and it was my dream bike since I saw one in the late 80's...and it was super reliable and strong! I believe Honda kept to the Africa Twin heritage on this new models. I sold mine a few years ago and I regretted instantly but I'm thinking about buying one of this new models but tomorrow I'm going to test drive one because I'm afraid I'm not up to the challenge that is to drive one of this new engineering marvel! Lots of new things to learn if you compare to the old models made me a little bit concerned...let's see how it goes tomorrow!

[@bruceparker1125]

I have a 2017 Africa Twin and a Goldwing. The Twin is my favorite.

[@sendit1831]

I have the 2016 Africa twin L and it gets flogged hard I always have it on the rev limiter on the dirt roads with no problems what so ever it's now got 18000klm on it and 16000 of that was on dirt - great bike best off road bike I've been on

[@gordonjames8811]

The 2018 30th anniversary gives you bigger tank and tri color. But they are hard to find. Since a 2021 cost 25 cd out the door used bikes are something to consider thank you .

[@clivedarwell5732]

Excellent. Again! Would prefer a T7 for similar use but your logic is sound.

[@jeffloucks2120]

Best used AT twin deal I could find was $10,500 for a low mileage standard '19. The T7 I had a deposit on finaly showed up out of nowhere. Not disappointed in the least and actually prefer the bare bones nature as that's what I'm used to anyway.

[@bruceparker1125]

found a new one "Left Over" for $9500. I love it. Sits next to my Goldwing and gets more riding time.

[@ironchief2346]

I do agree with all your reason for getting the AT ... I own a 19 and all you said are on point.

[@scottmcbride4652]

been on KLR for 4 years just bought an AT somewhat based on your vids.

[@painsrides3616]

I recently rode a bud's 18 Africa Twin.... He picked it up used, I believe, the bike has 18k miles on it, but oh man! what nice riding bike. I was impressed at how competent it felt, the engine had nice power, not "boring at all".. I bet off-road it would have been a blast. Anyway, this ride caused me to catch the ADV bug... an 18 or 19 AT is not out of the question, although I'm leaning toward a new Yamaha T7(Here in the CT area, new T7's cost about the same as used 18/19 AT's)

[@gmcg8775]

I’m pretty sure nobody will believe me here, but my 2018 1090 ADV R has been stone cold reliable. I rode the AT before I purchased the KTM, and I just don’t see the better quality, it wasn’t a bad bike, but it certainly didn’t feel as dialed or rugged. Still a good looking bike though!

[@FullArmorE6]

Nice find! Great bike! Enjoyed your reasons for purchasing it.

[@joseramalho3362]

Great video Ian. I totally agree with everything you said. I bought a second hand 2016 black AT in January 2020 with 31.000 Kms (19.000 miles) in perfect conditions, with every extra you can think of for € 10.000. The best thing I've ever done. I use it a lot both for short day trips and longer ones. My therapist. I have no intention of swapping it. To me, one of the best all around motorcycles on the market. For touring / commuting / gravel / off road, does it all. Are there better motorcycles for each of the different categories? Yes of course. But can one combine all of them? I haven't found a better one yet... Greetings from Portugal.