Fizik vs Selle Italia vs Prologo vs Pro Saddle Review!

Snub nose, boost, short nose saddles are all the rage. No matter what they are called, we take a look at the latest offerings from PRO, Prologo, Selle Italia and Fizik. These brands have their version of the snub nose saddle and we look at everything from weights to materials and more.
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[@ozzz3365]

Thanks for this fine review FYI- wing flexing is not meant for bumping absorption, but to make sure the wings not disturb your thighs when pedaling.

[@leftymadrid]

Yes, the world of saddles is a tad scary. I can see where most of us cyclists would be confused on which to buy. Especially some being very expressive. Been riding for some years now and it seemed that I would get that discomfort around the 80-100 klms mark, and also even hitting the 50klm mark at times. Mind you I've been using a Specialized Toupee for 3- years now. And thought well the saddle hurting is relatively normal in cycling so ... But recently I came across the (Pro Stealth) in the 142mm size and was in awe just looking at one!!! I dove in the deep waters and got one after hearing so many folks speaking very highly on the Stealth Pro. Glad I did!! I mean seriously, to be able to ride long distances and not feel that pressure in that tender area is heavenly! The Stealth has a perfect cutout for a healthy flow which works extremely well for me. But having said that, remember that each and every one of us is built differently so one must invest time to investigate all there is about saddles. Hopefully you will find the correct saddle for you...

[@elkat_bori_pr7791]

Slr but which one?

[@daiweston7846]

I changed to the Vento after experiencing problems on my turbo, happy to say its helped both on the turbo and long rides 🎉

[@jbwillson]

I don’t think you ever explain that the Fizik you call a “Cadillac” (which has not been the ne plus ultra of cars for about fifty years) is the Tempo Argo. The Argo is designed for endurance riding. The other, narrower Tempo is the Vento, which is designed for racing. I have never found measuring to the nose of the saddle useful when changing from one saddle to another, which is why Fizik’s marks on the underside make sense only when taking the same saddle off and on. Different saddles have such different configurations that the nose measurement is only helpful as a rough starting point. I find it far more helpful to measure to the rough sit bone point - usually at the widest point of the saddle.

[@johnpsyclex147]

I think Fizik 'wing tips' were designed to give max support while giving way enough to allow free movement of the thighs. Feel free to school me if I'm wrong!

[@Veloworthy]

You are correct!

[@cnay2983]

Short-nosed saddles were developed to comply with UCI regulations because the nose of the saddles couldn't be x cm infront of the BB. Shorter nose means the saddle can be slid forward while complying with the regulations.

[@helicart]

Yep. and riders like to sit further forward relative to the bottom bracket, when climbing, and when going more aero in the drops. A shorter saddle allows one to keep the ischiopubic rami better supported on the wider rear part of the saddle.

[@raufsayyan424]

The pro stealth is a pain in the arse, regretted buying

[@user-hu9ms8sq2r]

why?

[@lifeofarthid3232]

really? Its actually only saddle I can ride on

[@thedronescene7474]

I have the PRO but will give the SLR a try. The pro is just to wide for me, 143mm wide! The back of my legs hit the saddle when pedaling and I find myself constantly moving forward to avoid that. SLR is 130mm so hopefully should be better.

[@Veloworthy]

Good choice!

[@Krfifteen]

I just picked up the Fizik tempo Argo for my commuter. So far it’s been great!

[@Veloworthy]

Glad you like it!

[@richardvanderwelipsc547]

Hi Veloworthy, I liked your video, thanks. I just picked up a Pro Stealth off-road a week ago, but not convinced yet of it ( still pain at the sittingbones and in the middle ) I’m thinking of trying the Fi’zik Tempo 150mm that you showed here, but which type is this ? I see the R1 up to R5 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@MiguelAugusto1982]

@@richardvanderwelipsc547 r5

[@ttmallard]

I had the Selle touring model, the Pro was more comfortable & narrower nose part of why, the SLR looks primo to me, headwinds here keep me on the clipons a lot, good review thx 🍺

[@solog116]

Go to a bike shop and try as many as you can! The one you want and the one that works for you are often quite different. I wanted the Fizik Argo and ended up with a QS Labs saddle.

[@MiguelAugusto1982]

not available in all countries, e.g. portugal, for lack of stock as one bike fitter told me

[@HarishChouhan]

Can you please share links to the saddles you tested ?

[@matthewkramer8613]

There is also the Terra Argo, gravel specific. X1 - X5. More flex design in the Terra. I'm thinking I may give the tempo a try on my road Giant Defy. Thanks for the power lineup :)

[@Veloworthy]

🙏

[@elkat_bori_pr7791]

I got for present a Power from specialized 155mm wide. Feels quite comfy but I don't know if I should try with one a less little like 145.

[@Veloworthy]

It depends on your sit bones and riding position. Best thing is to experiment if you can.

[@cpk313]

Short-nosed would be the commonality, boost/power/short-fit are all company specific terms

[@zedddddful]

I have the endurance version of the SLR boost awesome saddle for me can go hour's on end no issues.

[@jamessalter5330]

So the SLR is definitely the Boost version?

[@Veloworthy]

Yes although Selle Italia has other short nose saddles as well.

[@donclifford7017]

Which of these would be geared toward trail bikes?

[@neilashton9459]

Saw this in my feed for a while before watching as I thought it would be a bit pedestrian and a subject that wouldn’t translate outside personal experience. Anything but! Very thorough and well thought out!

[@Veloworthy]

Thank you so much!

[@xelseartheonlyone1267]

I got the boost one recently. Getting used to it. Very nice video.

[@Veloworthy]

Good to hear

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

All of these saddles have a cut-out. Please anyone tell me it's not me alone who cannot sit on such saddles because I always end up sitting directly on the sharp edges of the cutout. I need a flat section in the middle to distribute the weight evenly.

[@HennieBours]

Which one is, according you, the most comfortable of the package? Right now I use an SMP Drakon and it is the best that I tried (I have it already for more than 10.000kms) but stil not perfect.

[@Veloworthy]

I like the PRO saddle. For some reason a wider nose seems to help my position.

[@nustradamus8224]

Which is more better saddle? Fizik Argo R5 or Selle Italia Slr Kit Carbonio? My bike is Giant Propel. Doing multi sports and long rides. Pls help me to decide. 😥

[@robsampson4971]

Why are snub nosed saddles mostly wider? my sit bones are 2 narrow for most these saddles only the SLR and San Marco short fit narrow do 130mm saddles

[@Veloworthy]

Traditionally the wider nose is so that you can be in an aero position, while scooting up on the saddle and having more material for support. If that is not for you, Prologo makes the narrower nose of the snub nose line up. Good luck on your search!

[@oscarflores7188]

Just wondering why you didn't include specialized power saddle

[@jerryjin3427]

What's your opinion on FIZIK ANTARES VERSUS EVO R1 ADAPTIVE or ANTARES 00 VERSUS EVO? They both got that "channel" between the paddings, just not cut-outs.

[@darrenbarlow5759]

Your comment about the SLR is true. I have an SLR boost and it's giving me trouble. I'm new to the game and I ride 80% of the time on the hoods and like to move around. After about 20 miles the discomfort sets in and only gets worse. HELP! lol

[@Veloworthy]

If you are on the hoods mostly, try perhaps a longer saddle.

[@BlackR92]

Hello i know the video has been 2 years, im wondering the difference from the stealth pro vs selle italia slr. Thinking of trying out the SLR, currently im using the stealth pro no issue with is so far just that the nose are probably too wide and it rubs my thighs, do you think the SLR will give the same problem?

[@hydriarief9261]

I already try 3 saddles in your review,, but no one can solved my problem, problem is numbness, numbess every 40miles,

[@Veloworthy]

That can sometimes be a problem with bike fit. If you haven't already had a proper fitter look at your position, it could be a good investment. So sorry to hear!

[@cnay2983]

Try one without a cut-out. More surface area means less pinch points. I personally use an Antares R1 and I love it for everything except when I'm on the drops.

[@zuraganeko77]

Which of the 3 have you tried? I also experience it, numbness even less than 20 miles. Tried 4 saddles, It’s getting better when I move the saddle forward. Based on the videos I watch, I think prologo have better chances. I will try 3 more saddles, If it’s not getting any better, maybe I should do bike fit.

[@zachm9916]

Bi Saddle fixed all of my problems. Although I just ordered a Vento to see if it may work for me since the bisaddle is so heavy. I don’t expect it to fit, but worth a shot. Seriously though, if you’re like me and could never get away from numbness, take the weight penalty and get a bisaddle. I have the EXT and STEALTH, both are phenomenal.

[@lastlavender5351]

It may be: - Saddle position is too high. - Your sit bones didn't match saddle width. - Try to tilt saddle downward. (based on my personal experience). And the numbness gone forever

[@jeffdixon321]

Dr. Steven Schrader from NIOSH: “When you sit on a bike the pressure on the perineum increases sevenfold. Riders using a classic saddle place 1/4 of their body weight on the perineum. The amount of oxygen reaching the *** typically falls 70% to 80% in 3 minutes. A guy can have his oxygen levels drop 100% but he doesn’t know it. After half an hour he goes numb. Saddles with splits or holes may make matters worse because they have smaller surface areas, and hence the rider’s weight presses harder on less saddle. The arteries in the perineum run laterally and therefore they come under more pressure when they come into contact with the cutouts’ edges. It is no longer a question of whether or not traditional bike saddles causes ED, but what are you going to do about it?” Your own history confirms that you are not designed to sit on something resembling a 2 x 4 up on edge. The damage is by accumulation. So one day all the symptoms will present themselves but by that time significant damage is done. People 'trash' me for adding these comments but I have sold 42,000 seats and have talked directly to at least 6000 people and have heard every urological condition here is as caused by saddles. The common factor: they all trusted people like this and used saddles EXACTLY like these: the same old same old. Stop the damage and use a Spongy Wonder

[@snorttroll4379]

Spongy wonder you say? How are they with keeping you on the saddle? And does each pad swivel to conform to leg movement?

[@benyeech]

@Veloworthy I'm riding a Merida Reacto areo bike. Would u recommend the Vento for a racier feel or the Tempo for more comfort? Thanks!

[@kpsig]

Hello, did you choose after all? I am now at the exact same position, to decide between the Vento and the Tempo

[@chakrasurya7601]

I did try both, kinda hard feel on the saddle for both. Switched it for fabric line s and it feels like you're sitting on a couch. And now I regret for switching the fabric for pro stealth because the same reason (pro got harder pad)

[@m.sspeckyy7494]

Hi, thank you! Your video is the only one on yt showing different saddle brands in the same video, this is very helpful for me! I have 115mm sit bones and im currently using a fizik antares 142mm wide (i already ride like 15000 km on this one) but when i ride a lot (like 6 days a week) i have some pain in the area between sit bones and testicles, i mean the perineum area is the only one that hurts a lot after long rides. (i tend to have most of the times an aggressive position, holding the hand down on the bar). Now i wondering which new saddle could i try, but i can't decide between slr boost superflow (130mm) or specialized power (130mm) or maybe an arione (?) . Any suggestion? And if you're wondering, i've already been to an expert biomechanics that helped me with bike position, i think the problem is saddle related..

[@Veloworthy]

Although I've never tried the Specialized power I've heard good things about it. Hopefully you know of some friends saddles you can test out. If your position is already dialed in, it comes down to saddle preference. Good luck!

[@egigov]

Hi, just like you I have 115mm sit bone width and like to ride in a more aggressive position, so I wonder if you’ve found the right saddle yet. Let me know what you went for and if it has sorted the issue.

[@m.sspeckyy7494]

@@egigov Hi, 4 month ago i decided to buy "prologo dimension cpc". Best decision ever, it's just my perfect saddle even if it's a bit wide (143mm), but i had no more pain and riding my bike became beautiful

[@leftymadrid]

I know this is 11 months later and you've probably found a nice comfortable seat by now... But in case you have not, check out the Pro Stealth seat.

[@m.sspeckyy7494]

@@leftymadrid thanks buddy, I will give it a try. I am currently still riding on the prologo dimension, and I am also curious to try the prologo scratch m5

[@MatKwik]

Could somebody help me if Fizik Vento Argo could be comfortable for gravel bike ?

[@Veloworthy]

It's great. Ive actually used it on my gravel bike. I like the short nose in case I need to get behind the saddle on steep drops.

[@MatKwik]

@@Veloworthy thanks ! I am just wondering about tempo also . I dont have access to terra argo and based on fizik calculator they proposed to me tempo :)

[@davidlundmark9359]

I liked riding solo, most of the time 40km but sometimes 100km. Would the Prologo Dimension be a good fit?

[@Veloworthy]

It should I've done 100K + rides on that saddle and so far so good!

[@davidlundmark9359]

@@Veloworthy Ah great, then I will buy it! 👍

[@raynunez6027]

I'm curious on the fiziks, does the width of the cutouts change with the widths of the saddle?

[@Veloworthy]

I don't think so.

[@markolazarevic4209]

Is fizik vento argo comfortable for longer rides ~150km long? If somebody has any experience, I would appreciate it very much

[@maximilianreiter]

Fizik offeres on their webpage something like a saddle finder. You answer questions about hours you want to spend on the bike, how flexible you are and so on. After that they will recommend you one of there products. Helped me a lot to find what I needed

[@markolazarevic4209]

@@maximilianreiter Yeah, I tried that one, and it recommended tempo argo. But I dont have access to that saddle, and after a lot of tax i paid when I bought fizik shoes, I am not doing it again. So I bought viento argo locally, and after i finish my exams, I will give it a try to see if it works for me. Hope it does

[@GerayinTV]

The tempo is extremely comfortable I can do 30 miles with no padded shorts easy.

[@stefanmotmans1443]

Hi! My wife has some problems with the saddle of our spinningbike. Our spinningbike is a Greg Lemond. Nice 'toy' but they delivered it -second hand- with a ordinary saddle. So not the original one. Has somebody any experience about the Fizik Tempo or the Fizik Vento? It seems a great saddle as well for a spinningbike. Wich one could be the most conveniant to our spinningbike? Thanks in advance for your advice! Grtz, Stefan

[@MK-rn2hm]

How long does it take to break them in?

[@Veloworthy]

It depends on the individual but for me it takes about a week or 150-200 miles wearing a comfy chamois.

[@MK-rn2hm]

@@Veloworthy thanks

[@tannenradblogspot]

Saddles ought to fit like a shoe, yet no honest size info is given. Any saddle is recommended for 3 to 5 body sizes. Almost all commercial saddles are too wide for me, at the location of abductor muscles, next ramus of ischias. That is the transition of wing to nose. I had to cut off 5mm from saddles, on each side, frontal edge of wing and transition to nose. Even super t-shaped leather saddles were too wide around the nose. Most plastic saddles are much more v-shaped, even wider in that area. Despite saddles being only 130mm but total width is not a relevant piece of information. Each saddle has a shape that will arrest the ramus and ischias. It will be deep and horizontal. May be hidden under cushion. At this location, the saddle must be narrow enough. I haven't tried the selle italia friction free monorail model, but i speculate that it would be good for me. I cannot name another model that might work out of the box. The regular flite still appears too wide. 164cm rider. Imho saddles should be officially recommended for a male and a different female body height. But imho they are unofficially all for either about 175cm (SM) and about 185cm (ML). It seems to me that most saddles are of tolerable comfort, if only the size is right or they are trimmed to size. They are optimized for different pelvis rotations tho. I go hands free most of the time, on a cruiser/klunker bike. Ideally my sitbones need a slight cavity, broken in cushion, to allow for maximum control, as you do not want to steer with the legs, when you ride hands free.

[@DarioFoley-qu8ns]

It went together easily in less than an hour. kzbin.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.

[@lol224455]

It works

[@brianc401]

Very helpful video! Thank you. But, I have a couple questions now. I have a 10 yr old Selle Italia SLR. I bought it for the huge cut-out, hoping it would help with the perennial pain on my 40 mile rides. But, it never helped. I just keep standing to relieve the pain. Is the new version much better? Or, (for an endurance rider) is the ability to move around in a Fizik saddle a much greater benefit compared to just having a giant cutout on a race saddle?

[@Veloworthy]

Cutout is only part of the equation. While it does help, it's not everything. Sound like you could benefit from a saddle with different material (10 years is a long life for a saddle). If you are mostly doing endurance, try a saddle that has both a cutout plus the ability to move around such as the Fizik. Good luck!

[@ozzz3365]

Try bontragar aelouse.

[@GerhardDIETRICH]

What and how I use the measurements points to measure thanks

[@timperry8961]

How long did it take for you to ride the SLR Boost saddle in?

[@Veloworthy]

Surprisingly, it doesn’t require a “break-in period.” You can ride it straight out of the box!

[@judeplante6241]

Fizik Temp Argo: hard as a rock...has padding IF YOU REALLY PRESS DOWN...I wanted to like it, but dear lord...I don't want plush but I don't want to sit on a brick

[@HawkyMagix]

My problem is pain on both sides of my sit bones but I think the problem is that I'm riding on a 15yo saddle😅I'm thinking buying a selle italia slr🤔

[@Veloworthy]

You are definitely due for a new one!

[@tad2ik]

Does the width play a role in saddle comfort on long rides? I've done 400km and had terrible burns inside my thighs. I've been told this is too do with saddle being to wide.

[@Veloworthy]

Width mainly plays a role when you are in a more aggressive position in the drops. Generally while riding a more relaxed position you can sit a bit back on the saddle as not to have the nose dig in.

[@rickdoehler502]

This is stupid. it fits well..., for who. All saddles aren't snub nosed, nor do they all have cut outs. Talk about the issues with carbon rails. Most saddles are a available in different widths.

[@Veloworthy]

This particular review is specifically for the snub nose saddle category by different brands.

[@rickdoehler502]

@@Veloworthy Yep, Thank you.

[@fredlast4547]

I'll stick with the Specialized S Works Power Mirror saddle.

[@cnay2983]

after spending that much - you probably don't have a choice :')