OONI Koda 2 Max vs GOZNEY Arc XL - Comparison Video

[@ianjhood]

Great video. I just took delivery of the Ooni Koda 2 max and two tables side by side (I ordered two covers for tables from a 3rd party to keep them from the weather). I can;t wait to try the oven out very soon!

[@vbavau2]

Finally! Even thought i bought my ARC XL and have zero regrets. Have had a few Ooni ovens and can say the Gozney build quality blows the Oonis out of the water.

[@TomVoyageuk]

Thanks for watching! Glad you’re happy with your Arc XL!

[@MrJusmobile]

They are both different levels of garbage

[@TomVoyageuk]

Great input, thanks for that 🙄

[@shawnkay5462]

@@MrJusmobile and what do you think is better ? dont say an Italian brand because their warranties and customer service is garbage outside of Italy

[@derekcole5593]

Another very informative video, thanks. I have one of the 16" Ooni with gas burner. What are your thoughts on doubling up the baking stone? I have a second stone and I'm thinking of putting the second stone on the top of the first. Would that achieve the same heat retention as a thicker single stone?

[@TomVoyageuk]

Honestly I don’t know, but it makes sense that it would work, especially if the extra thickness of the stone doesn’t affect the oven height too much. It might take a while to heat through too

[@Bush_Baby]

I love NY and Neopolitan style but have several years cooking NY in a double deck bakers pride commercially. I like the ability to do two smalls or one XL in the Koda 2 Max. I feel like with ample preheat time and lowering temp getting a crust on the bottom shouldnt be a problem despite its less insulation. I think the choice may be between the Koda 2 Max VS an electric/gas deck oven like effueno or carbon ovens. Decisions decisions!!! Luckily I won't be in a position to purchase until next year so plenty of time to decide :). Thanks for the great video Tom!

[@TomVoyageuk]

I have been experimenting over the past few weeks to get my NY dough recipe perfect in the Koda 2 Max, so I’ll hopefully be doing a video soon as I’m getting happy with the results

[@Bigheadedwon]

Someone on Reddit used a 24” screen and made a 24” pizza. That’s insane and cool as hell you can do it. I’ve owned 4 pizza ovens, 2 Oonis, 1 gozney and a Halo. The Max 2 will 100% be my next one. And besides the larger size, only having to turn the pizza once in the Ooni’s a game changer

[@talhasiddiqui1110]

I have it. Once you know how to use it, you'll get a true new york pizza. turn the oven to 400c. add pizza on a screen and turn off burners. 5 minutes. take off the screen and restart burners on medium for three minutes

[@TomVoyageuk]

That sounds amazing - I'd really love to try it a 24"!

[@ericwillard2364]

Great video. I own an ARC XL but I was expecting the Koda 2 max to take the crown, but I don’t feel like it did. The insulation in the Arc makes a big difference in heat retention, it seems. The crust on the arc pizza looked better as well, though that could be a product of cook time as mentioned. I kinda doubt that I’d be cooking 2 pizzas at once, so the larger size is nice but not a game changer. One thing I’d like to know is the difference in heat retention over time. How long do you need to wait for the stone to get up to temp between pizzas? Also, it’s a small gripe, but the arc cover and stand wins hands down. The arc cover is better than the cover for my snowblower. I can’t believe the quality there. The table is nice as well. None of this is to say that the Koda 2 is bad, just that I currently don’t have buyers remorse.

[@TomVoyageuk]

Thanks for watching and for the detailed comment, it’s nice to hear you’re happy with your choice! Happy baking!

[@polsok44]

Great video nice job 👍

[@daveprendergast9394]

I have 2 Arc XLs and they are beasts...i used two roccboxes for the last two years and they are mini beasts!!

[@TomVoyageuk]

Thanks for watching!

[@TheOShow35]

Learning lots here

[@TomVoyageuk]

Glad my videos are helpful for you!

[@G4CEFITNESS]

🎉🎉🎉🎉 FIRST 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Thanks Tom for the comparison. I'm a Ooni guy all the way!

[@TomVoyageuk]

Thanks! Glad you liked the video

[@Ares0025]

If i had to buy one i would take the Koda Max. Its way bigger has more features and looks better in my opinion. But i am still happy with my Karu 16. 😊🍕🍕🍕🍕

[@TomVoyageuk]

Thanks for watching! It’s certainly a beast of an oven!

[@EatandTweet]

Nice Job Tom :)

[@TomVoyageuk]

Thanks for watching mate 🍕👍

[@steveniannelli2756]

Is the koda max digital thermometer accurate though or do we still need an infrared thermometer to get the stone temp?

[@TomVoyageuk]

I still use a digital thermometer every time. It’s not that I don’t trust it, it’s more the thermometer gives and overall oven temp, and the infrared thermometer gives a god overview of various areas of the stone temp

[@Home.Barissta]

You can tell the build quality on the gozney is far superior, everyone has told me this for years, Ooni mass produces ovens and really lack on insulation, not to say they don’t serve a purpose as they can be affordable for the odd pizza maker in summer but you typically find them littered all over Facebook marketplace place in winter where you can pick Up a bargain

[@TomVoyageuk]

Thanks for watching and for your thoughts 😃

[@D.D.T.123]

Do you get the black soot on the front of the Gozney? Hate that.

[@TomVoyageuk]

Yea a bit but not much as it’s a gas oven, just wipes straight off though

[@johnklapish6807]

Great review,what is strong bread flour?

[@TomVoyageuk]

A flour with a high protein content, like 12-14% you can use all purpose flour instead though, just try to make sure the protein is high because then it will develop a strong gluten

[@johnklapish6807]

@@TomVoyageuk thanks so much 👍

[@david111davies]

How long will those £60 gas bottles last with these machines

[@TomVoyageuk]

On full power about 15 hours of cooking

[@TomVoyageuk]

If that’s an issue the Koda 12 smaller version can last about 40 hours

[@david111davies]

@@TomVoyageuk thanks, I did actually buy the Koda 12 this week and am using it for the first time tonight.

[@thegardenpizzeria]

I kinda want both 🤓

[@TomVoyageuk]

I’m not going to lie, it’s a pleasure to own both and have the opportunity to use both these ovens

[@thegardenpizzeria]

@@TomVoyageuk I bet 😝🤩

[@LethalBacon43]

the way this guy secretly humiliates Gozney and prefers Ooni is amazing 😂

[@TomVoyageuk]

How come you say that? I try to be as unbiased as possible in my reviews and having owned and used both oven for the past few weeks, feel I can give a true representation of the pros and cons of both. The purpose of this video isn’t to say one is better than the other, but to give viewers the facts about both ovens to help make an informed decision on which one would suit their needs best.

[@LethalBacon43]

@@TomVoyageukwhy would you point out that you cant take the stone out at Gozney and at Ooni you can? my first question was WHY would you take the stone out for cleaning anyway? Than you waited 45min for Ooni to heat up so that doesnt mean that Gozney takes 45min to heat up obviously you waited Ooni these are two things, I dont want to start about the flour removing from cracks.. common. But yeah I get you, so each to their own. Cheers! #nohate

[@bbarnes4852]

⁠@@LethalBacon43 in Tom’s defence I also remove the stone from my ooni to clear the crumbs out before cooking.

[@LethalBacon43]

@@bbarnes4852as I said each to their own, but its definitely not something I would put into comparison video and especially not as an advantage

[@robintaberner]

@@TomVoyageukexcellent comparison Tom!

[@kenichi407]

neither... went down this rabbit hole, and the damn pizza oven just sits on the porch unused. very much a hassle, pizza's still not as good as store bought. we just order these days.

[@TomVoyageuk]

Practice makes perfect! 👌

[@johnishk]

Sounds like a “skills” issue

[@kenichi407]

@@johnishk perhaps, but perusing all the other youtube vids, pretty much looks the same. you can only achieve to a certain level, but still comes out somewhat "homemade'. i've tried convincing myself and rationalize the purchase, but the pies at the shop are still miles ahead.