OP-1 Field - WTF is Teenage Engineering Smoking!?!

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Ave Mcree

Ave Mcree

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@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
$2000 for a portable synth with only 256 mb's of internal memory, no undo function for the sequencer, & no time stretch....... April Fools came late this year😆😆😆😆
@RobertoVillegas-vincent404
@RobertoVillegas-vincent404 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. I’d be super curious for you to do an update on this whenever new firmware features kick in. I don’t own any of their synths, but they have shown in the past they do update their software and add new features. Edit: this also would have to be way reduced in cost as I just realized what the cost of a maschine plus was compared to this. I’m wondering if they are getting hit with chip shortage cost increases.
@SC36DC
@SC36DC 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahhahahahha.
@VIRALBEATS360
@VIRALBEATS360 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the $500 T shirts.
@SleepyMontana
@SleepyMontana 2 жыл бұрын
Oh .. Damn... They den lost their Damnnmn minds. 🚫 🧠 🤯
@Zzzz...7
@Zzzz...7 2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen their $1200 mixer?
@DJ_PROMO_PR
@DJ_PROMO_PR 2 жыл бұрын
The OP-1 always been overpriced, period. I mean it's in the name. OP= Over Priced. You're probably the only production channel that has touched on this and with other products. This is why I stopped watching many producer/review channels. They NEVER really criticize a product, like they don't care if their subscribers buy it and regret it later. Why? They just want dat FREE gear to keep coming. Don't get me wrong, free gear is awesome, but there's a line to be drawn somewhere. Respect. 👊
@junkfoodbad7395
@junkfoodbad7395 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChazSeamus28 op-1 channels?
@ChumpyDumps
@ChumpyDumps 2 жыл бұрын
Literally every video out on the OP-1 field is criticizing it for the same exact thing though lol.
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky 2 жыл бұрын
@@junkfoodbad7395 gear review and producer channels, aka G.A.S. farmers
@seanarooni
@seanarooni 2 жыл бұрын
So that’s what it stands for
@dodgingrain3695
@dodgingrain3695 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Tired of youtubers claiming everything is great, please be honest guys and stop worrying about offending someone.
@Blogspierre
@Blogspierre 2 жыл бұрын
OP-1f SOLD OUT on the website.
@SauceSoundz
@SauceSoundz 2 жыл бұрын
Best reaction video I've seen yet on this. I just bought an OP1 like 3 weeks ago so too late to return it... and was pissed when I saw they made a new one but once I saw that price tag i didn't feel so bad. They smokin sum good shit
@carbonvibes
@carbonvibes 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed how you ended this video, great job Ave. 🔥
@Unders
@Unders 2 жыл бұрын
Got hands on with it while i was in Berlin. It's absolutely great, its portable AF and sounds awesome. Its about $1200 too expensive for what it is.
@frantsel5711
@frantsel5711 2 жыл бұрын
800 would be fair? Who brainwashed you believing that?
@boarderking133
@boarderking133 2 жыл бұрын
@@frantsel5711 whose calling who brainwashed
@frantsel5711
@frantsel5711 2 жыл бұрын
@@boarderking133 phuurrrrrrrrr...
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly....exceptI would subtract another $300 AT LEAST!
@Unders
@Unders 2 жыл бұрын
@@deelux5519 to be it’s a great bit of kit. An everything about it is custom. Perhaps if they were made on mass in China they could be that cheap.
@1UpBebop
@1UpBebop 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when the OP1 first came out and its price was $850 and reviewers said it was insanely fun but overpriced? Yeah..... that was at $850! TE has kept upping the price of the Op1 every year since it's been out, from $850 to $950 to $1000 etc. etc.. Now we got MK2 here at $2k. This is purely insane. I've never seen anything quite like it.
@Unders
@Unders 2 жыл бұрын
The  of synths 😂
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unders Oh damn that’s cold 🥶
@byakka
@byakka Жыл бұрын
The thing about pricing is it’s usually whatever people are willing to pay. TE seem to be doing well building expensive stuff people want, so more power to them.
@matthewgaines10
@matthewgaines10 2 жыл бұрын
Teenage Engineering made an incredible, compact, portable, powerhouse unit. The price is also incredible. I’d take that money and get a Fantom 06 or MODX6 first. Then I’d get a 404MkII. There just isn’t enough nice to justify that price. It isn’t about having the money. It’s about what I’d rather do with it.
@opart
@opart 2 жыл бұрын
in the end, its all about the gear that a person would use. Sure, you can buy bunch of other things for that price, but if they are there just collecting dust - even the cheaper price is not worth it. But then if you spend a lot, but use it all the time, it's totally worth the price. Just a matter of what works for a particular individual.
@ZenMountain
@ZenMountain 2 жыл бұрын
What's "incredible" about the OP-1???
@opart
@opart 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ZenMountain Form factor + great interface. Have you tried it? Clearly not.
@gladtobeangry
@gladtobeangry 2 жыл бұрын
@@opart I have tried it though, and found the interface and engine a bit simplistic, limited and cumbersome, and the looks very aspirational and cheesy at the same time. Good for you if you connected with it, but don't give us that "pauper, don't bother us important people who have 2000 euros to throw into the trashcan with your peasant opinions" attitude. It is actually possible to know this device and just not like it, believe it or not.
@opart
@opart 2 жыл бұрын
​ @Moo-sheep nobody is giving you the "pauper" attitude. Again, you work with what you have or can afford and try to make the best of it. Should I be hating on $1000-$7000 Fender Strat or a Gibson Les Paul, when you can have an amazing Squire Vintage vibe for $200-$300 of the price? Nope. Thanks to that "simplistic" interface TE made music making concepts accessible to people who would not pick a regular synth up - is that a bad thing? No. If you do music professionally and make money from it, and OP-1 is what you need to achieve the goals - you won't care about the price, as it will pay for itself. So I assume all the hate is because people can't afford it? Otherwise, if you don't care for the device, why bother posting comments about it?
@fernandochapa1433
@fernandochapa1433 2 жыл бұрын
As a maschine + user, knowing that the OP-1 Field made my insanely priced purchase more valuable is beyond hilarious
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO!
@JeanLucConnery
@JeanLucConnery 2 жыл бұрын
When NI made my older Machine gear incompatible. I swore never again.
@tali813
@tali813 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, after that last update, I decided to sell my M+. I'll llikely get an akai force to pair with my mpc live 2 :D
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeanLucConnery I have a love/hate relationship with NI myself, I will stick with Reaktor and leave everything else NI alone.
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 2 жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree what is life brother😂😂
@Brdo666
@Brdo666 2 жыл бұрын
I was chatting to a guy from TE about this at Superbooth and I asked him what was new about it - and he was like “it has better stereo functionality now and a new enclosure”
@dodgingrain3695
@dodgingrain3695 2 жыл бұрын
LOL.....
@andrew6889-p5c
@andrew6889-p5c 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the “teenage” that confuses me. Just call yourself “Mid-Life Crisis Lawyer Engineering” and we are all good. No disrespect to any lawyers or people in a mid-life-crisis.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 2 жыл бұрын
Oof 😖
@umrasangus
@umrasangus 2 жыл бұрын
for REAL, wanted one of those since a teen and now I'm like 20, still young. I just don't get it why it's called "Teenage Engineering", no teenager can afford these machines, no way. I have always thought this, they have to diminish their overly pretentious prices and their fanbase need some self-steem.
@latinjones
@latinjones 2 жыл бұрын
lol - feeling this comment hard at 43 and figuring out how to pay $2000 for this without dying from buyers remorse
@PiotrstrashcanŚmietnikPiotra
@PiotrstrashcanŚmietnikPiotra Жыл бұрын
I still haven’t found one single video with this device doing something that would make me say wow! Any recommendations?
@soundinmind
@soundinmind 2 жыл бұрын
Your title made me laugh and the ending cough and no f..ing way made me laugh. Good stuff
@pixelomo5180
@pixelomo5180 2 жыл бұрын
The MPC X is a full blown mini studio and costs £2300
@Zzzz...7
@Zzzz...7 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the $250 leather case!
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@BillVincent
@BillVincent 2 жыл бұрын
The keybed on the OP-1 was the biggest mistake (IMO) of the first unit. They didn't make it any better this time around, from what I can see. For this to be taken really seriously, it needs to have velocity/touch sensitivity. I can't believe they want 2K for a non-touch sensitive keyboard, I don't care how small it is.
@ltfringr
@ltfringr Жыл бұрын
The new one actually is is touch sensitive
@BillVincent
@BillVincent Жыл бұрын
@@ltfringr Yeah, at the time of me writing that they hadn't provided that firmware update yet, at least I'm pretty sure that was it - either that or I had bad info during it's initial release.
@ltfringr
@ltfringr Жыл бұрын
@@BillVincent yeah, I did some more research and you are right. I assumed because I played it with velocity that it always had it
@traviscrum5860
@traviscrum5860 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing your video like this, where you compared it to all the others you own. I've wanted something in this category for a while, but could never decide which one I actually wanted to get
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 2 жыл бұрын
The OP-1's functionality is roughly on par with a Circuit or a SP404. The OP-1f is a decent upgrade, like a SP404mk2. So far so good -- it's a decent entry-level groovebox. But it costs like 4X as much as other items in its class. For the price of an OP-1f with a soft cover, I got myself a brand new Akai Force and Sequential Pro 3.
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 2 жыл бұрын
I want a pro-3 bad! Had a pro-2 and regret parting w/ it badly.
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@fentanyljones6956 It's my favorite synth, and the only one I don't want to sell. With just the Force and Pro 3, I have everything I need... and they totally cured my GAS.
@smaudd_labs
@smaudd_labs 2 жыл бұрын
For the price of the OP-1F I could get almost every other groove box on the same category. Or a freaking Macbook Pro 14inch model. Isn't the Macbook Pro already a "premium product"? This makes no sense at all. OP-1 was already over priced and they decided to roll out some features that could be added via software if they didn't under power the unit on the first place. A freaking raspberry pi is like 1000x times more powerful and costs $40. TE, if you want to overprice synths like your bros from Off-white do with their shitty clothes, clearly you are on the wrong industry.
@thechronicnoizeco.6675
@thechronicnoizeco.6675 2 жыл бұрын
I thought i had too many guitars but you are catching up. You probably have less hassle storing those devices.
@Roguetrainer
@Roguetrainer 2 жыл бұрын
NO FUCKING WAY!! Absolutely pissed myself laughing at that. Just about sums it up perfectly.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
lmao thanks for watching
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Ripcord plug for my Model: Samples. I just plug the Ripcord into a small USB power bank, and use double sided velcro tape to fix it to the side of the Samples. Works really well, Ripcord cord is a little bit long but not a big problem.
@subiesojourner777
@subiesojourner777 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%. I've already got a slew of gear, but when you're a synth head like me there's always room for one more piece. There is NO WAY I would spend 2K for the OP-1 Field. I've looked at picking up a used OP-1 because I know some folks will be looking to upgrade, but after watching a slew of videos I decided to get a SP-404 MkII and will get my name on the order list for a DirtyWave M8. Oh, some nice gear your got there too. :) Give Behringer a year or so and they'll have a knock off version for $399.95.
@alexanderlane
@alexanderlane 2 жыл бұрын
*a year or so to announce one and then we'll be waiting like 4 more years for it to actually come out haha
@nalaeel219
@nalaeel219 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I’m going for a sp404mk2 and I’m very happy with my purchase when compared to a 2k op1 field
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderlane 🎶 _bum, bum, bum. Waiting on the chips!_ 🎶 _bum, bum, bum. Waiting on the chips!_ 🎶 _Another new synth, and another new synth. But we’re waiting on the chips._ 🎶 _Hey, we know you want this shxx. Waiting on the chips!_
@alexanderlane
@alexanderlane 2 жыл бұрын
@@crnkmnky haha I heard the melody of that as I read it, even a little bass hook
@IanKilpatrick801
@IanKilpatrick801 2 жыл бұрын
Op-1 has been out for over 10 years and I don’t see a Behringer knock off yet. If you haven’t used an OP-1 you really should it is an amazing piece of equipment
@ReadeMoore
@ReadeMoore 2 жыл бұрын
Then don't buy it. Keep it moving. Dude has a KZbin award on his wall, we see where his head is at - "Create engaging video content." This is the world we are in: Selling "sound kits" is the new "song writing." Hipster comment section filled with people worried about how others spend their money, while simultaneously talking about their own expensive gear choices. If you're heated over this comment, consider creating a beat instead of replying. Go create something. See where your heart is really at: Hating, or creating?
@Riktenstein
@Riktenstein 2 жыл бұрын
Rubbish reverse psychology by the way. Your comment sounds like you are the one hating. I had the original and it wasn’t for me, however some of my friends swear by it. Still, charging 2K for their fan base seems a bit off, hence why they are going to have to deal with the criticism.
@CinemaReagle
@CinemaReagle 7 ай бұрын
Lls, your comment sounds a bit sus....... he created a vid about his opinion, and you post in the comments about "Hating or creating" lls you don't even have a visible icon picture 🤣🤣🤣 u anonymous comment leaving haters are bold as Eva these days! Where ur content at? Anybody watching or leaving comments on your videos??? Yea, I thought so
@FairchlldMusic1
@FairchlldMusic1 2 жыл бұрын
Marketing department: “let’s price this thing at $2k, and the industry will make memes about how absurd the price is, and that there is our publicity….”
@stolencoats63
@stolencoats63 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, free marketing. Don't mean much if nobody is buying though.
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky 2 жыл бұрын
@@stolencoats63 there’s _always_ somebody willing to buy…
@brandobrandobrandobrando
@brandobrandobrandobrando 2 жыл бұрын
@@stolencoats63 there will absolutely be a shit ton of people who purchase. Thus, from TE's view, the price was accurate.
@_greenleader
@_greenleader 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest purpose is its ultra compact size, for traveling nothing comes close
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
Still not worth $2000 and there’s several compact synths that sound better 😂
@marclemar
@marclemar Жыл бұрын
😂 just search OP1 and this came up !!! Too funny
@MurrayDagostino
@MurrayDagostino 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got myself an akai MPC live II instead, it's not as portable, but I stuck a 480GB SSD in it, so plenty of space. And for half the price a done deal. Goodnight TE.
@therealrussellsmyth
@therealrussellsmyth Жыл бұрын
The mk1 wasn’t worth 400€ let alone 800€. Bland and completely overrated. However the field is a totally different animal imo, a remarkable bit of kit even if it’s overpriced. Listen to a demo on YT of someone who actually knows how to work it, regretfully most don’t. Definelty worth €1500 anyway. It’s the first synth I’ve been excited about in a long long time. Im certain there’ll be some serious music made with this machine
@cookingwithtone
@cookingwithtone Жыл бұрын
Bro I had an OP-1 and all sorts of other gear and can definitely say the OP-1 stuck out and I loved it i think i bought it for like 800 bucks at the time. I made some crazy shit with that thing and ableton but The 2,000 tag on that new one is CRAZY! I'm with ya on that no fuckin way. I rocked with the SP404 this past year and loved it as well but I just ordered the Live 2 and can't tell you how hyped i am for the batt, speaker, and the ableton link is looking so sick. Bouta cook up some heat for the winter! Dope content btw. Right on for all you do on here bro!
@Zsklar
@Zsklar 2 жыл бұрын
The wrap up was brilliant. Yeah, no clue what TE is thinking. Hell, you can get the MPC X for around that price if not cheaper 2nd hand. Yeah, for $800-$1000, the OP-1 is worth it. I got one and it's a definitely not a "toy". I look at it as more of a swiss army knife. I will also agree with you, the MPC Live 2 is the KING! That thing comes with me everywhere with no wires. I still can't believe you can bang out tracks that I make in my studio while sitting on the beach for 3-5 hours. INSANE!
@Yemoe777
@Yemoe777 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing is I bought my MPC One for 600 sumthin dollars brand new….which makes the idea of paying 2k for THAT thing not even an idea that would cross my mind
@gooneybird808
@gooneybird808 2 жыл бұрын
I mean...I want it. Honestly really bad
@Brendan-Black
@Brendan-Black 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Ave. Thanks for keeping it real. Most other reviewers suck off whatever Teenager Engineering puts out no matter what, so it's much appreciated.
@BIGLARRY100
@BIGLARRY100 2 жыл бұрын
I don't need it because I have the OG-1. It sets next to my MPC Live II. The Live II has a way better screen. Way better connectivity (the USB ins/outs w/ 1 cable!) Way more memory & storage, SD card, better fx, better sample time, better speakers, better sound quality, & so on. It's better in every way but 1. With all the MPC's advantages the OP-1 makes better beats imo. Idk how to explain it but it just does. Maybe it's more fun or maybe it's just more effecient. I generally use the MPC to polish/garnish what I built on the OP. The biggest frustration to me w/ the new Field is it's only 4 tracks still. Would it be so hard to give it 8,12, or 16? Give me 16 & I could finish a beat w/o a DAW or MPC. I just can't believe nobody's taken it's formula & made it more powerful for less $$. The OP-1 was the best selling synth in the world last year even after being 10 years old. The reason why is because it just works well to make music. Somehow, some way it does. I don't disagree w/ this video but in my life 2 things worked better than the other stacks of gear I've owned. The ASR-X Pro & the OP-1. To each they own.
@TellAVi5ion
@TellAVi5ion 2 жыл бұрын
Your wall is a representation of childhood.
@shankiphonic
@shankiphonic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the laugh at the end, cheered me right up!
@station2station544
@station2station544 2 жыл бұрын
Sold Out Everywhere....including Teenage Engineering. That's all you need to know.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
yeah that what companies do to increase hype.
@ShaighJosephson
@ShaighJosephson Жыл бұрын
It's not worth more than $300... The funny part is how owners try to justify the purchase with BS... Lol... 🤣
@91crey
@91crey 2 жыл бұрын
This video made me feel better. Thank you Ave
@yodab.at1746
@yodab.at1746 2 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion As to what they're smoking? Probably something very expensive seeing how they seem to be ripping people off.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@HoldMyBeerFam
@HoldMyBeerFam 2 жыл бұрын
Smokin' your money!
@Koopakid917543
@Koopakid917543 2 жыл бұрын
Im really glad people aren't falling for this. I have the original OP-1 and (kind of) I love it, but dude $2000 are you kidding me, there are so many other better alternatives.
@tavionslaps
@tavionslaps 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so good. I think they are honest and respectable. Always going to check your channel before buying things.
@ItsDMoneyBabyOfficial
@ItsDMoneyBabyOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO "No Phuccin Way" 🤣😂😭
@VIRALBEATS360
@VIRALBEATS360 2 жыл бұрын
Not so low key been trolling the OP comments on KZbin...the last one was from this morning where I said that my biggest issue here, is that Teenage Engineering is attempting to create a class system within our community...there is already enough of that shit, going around. Thought you were going to spit take.... haha, yeah. Not worth it.
@nintendoor1
@nintendoor1 2 жыл бұрын
you crack me up, man lmao. subscribed
@electronicfury
@electronicfury 2 жыл бұрын
That's how I valued it too, looking at what else I could buy with the money. For portable fun I instead bought the MPC Live II, Dirtywave M8 and 1010 Lemondrop. Still have 300 quid left over for something else in the future.
@crime_wavez
@crime_wavez 2 жыл бұрын
it's nice to know some people are giving honest opinions and views on some of these machines. bro you should start doing some of the keyboards. would love to see you get your hands on a prophet rev2 or 5 rev4. i have about as many groove boxes as yourself. nothing gives me as much joy as sitting down with the rev2 and grabbing those neo soul clusters.....
@116boogie
@116boogie 2 жыл бұрын
Dope joint at the end.remind me of that 90s nyc club life.big up
@op-1g.s
@op-1g.s 2 жыл бұрын
The Mpc live 2 is def my fav on this planet. The next update is coming soon guys. 2.11 update.
@krhym21
@krhym21 2 жыл бұрын
Haha Great Video!!!Thanks Ave for Keeping it Real!!!
@michaelheath1194
@michaelheath1194 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you showed off your groove boxes. I was somewhat interested in seeing what the OP-1 Field was about until I saw one too many 9's in the price tag 🤣
@jdtorian
@jdtorian 2 жыл бұрын
Love my op-1. Ordered the mkii field.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Hope you enjoy
@jdtorian
@jdtorian 2 жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree but agreed that Live2 it it.
@IanKilpatrick801
@IanKilpatrick801 2 жыл бұрын
I got the last OP-1 lightly used for $800 and it has been with every penny. I love this machine. People dismissing it as a toy are missing out. You are showing thousands of dollars worth of other products to bash the OP but it can do what all those other things do. Does it do the best version of all of them? No, but that’s not the point. I have a little carrying case that fits neatly into my bag, and along with some decent headphones or an aux cable, I can take all that with me. I have charged the battery less than 5 times since I got it, just insane. No setup required. For me, it is 100% worth it. If you don’t get it you don’t get it I guess.
@jimmypierson1980
@jimmypierson1980 2 жыл бұрын
What are you on mate ? Just an mpc one 200bucks cheaper than a used op1 does considerably more... there's no proper sequencer or timestretch, undos, and basic quality of life editing tools. You're quite delusional if you think it's worth the price. But yeah, every business needs a target audience. I think you're the ultimate fit for this machine and i'm glad she owns you.
@IanKilpatrick801
@IanKilpatrick801 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmypierson1980 The MPC is a fine piece of equipment too if you like loading up samples and making beats and menu diving. I can do that in my DAW though… For on the go music creation I like my OP-1. You seem jelly
@IanKilpatrick801
@IanKilpatrick801 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmypierson1980 Like I said though.. If you don’t get it you don’t get it. Clearly you don’t.
@jimmypierson1980
@jimmypierson1980 2 жыл бұрын
@@IanKilpatrick801 See, you stray away so easily, you're talking emotions and flow of creation, when this is simple business that's at hand... any pricetag is meant to reflect components cost and attributes. OP1 and Field are far beyond what's considered normal and fair in the industry. This is pure greed. No one cares that you create better with your machine, if you can't understand simple economics i don't even see what you need to come and shill about.. it's like you felt targeted for being a fool or something,
@IanKilpatrick801
@IanKilpatrick801 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmypierson1980Haha I definitely don’t feel like a fool, I love my OP-1. It’s just funny to see so many tired takes about how expensive their products are (yes, I know they are expensive) without any mention of the functionality of the actual unit. If you don’t get it you don’t get it.. Like I said….
@mkII.
@mkII. 2 жыл бұрын
When i was looking for a all in one groovebox sampler, the Op1 and the live 2 were stacked up against each other because of price and similar features. But then you look a little closer in videos right here and all over youtube and you see the live 2 is leagues ahead of the Op1. So i grabbed a used live 2 and its been wild so far. I just couldnt see the Op1 being worth $1300, the new one is just lmfao. Then you look at the rest of their lineup and you see oh they wanna be the apple of the music gear world with a $1200 mixer.
@Superanima7
@Superanima7 2 жыл бұрын
The mixer is an audio interface and a 6 input mixer portable, built in fx and hardware compression, synthesizer , and FM radio transmitter yes transmitter not receiver. Portable and small for quick setup and it works for iOS and OS I believe. That to me since I need a new interface is totally worth it. Plus I wanna broadcast my jams on fm radio.
@mkII.
@mkII. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Superanima7 I mean really if you like it, and it goes with the rest of your gears looks and you can afford it. So be it, i just think they could have left out the synth and sequencer and maybe gave it something else worth $1200. As it sits i think the mixer is worth about $800-750.
@elekktrikk_home_video
@elekktrikk_home_video 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, one can buy a lot for 2k. Same is true in photography and cinematography. Some people buy Hasselblad or Leica although there is Fuji and Canon - and normally those ppl don’t lose when they decide to sell stuff after years. People still pay 1500 EUR for an MPC 3000 - although it is really limited. And you could sell a DMX or original TR-808 for 1k or 2.5k - despite digitakt and Behringer etc. I don’t get the discussion about the price of a thing. If the price is too high, it won’t sell.
@johnfath
@johnfath 2 жыл бұрын
The point of the OP-1F is to have all of these features in one extremely portable package. Funny to say no to this device and then feature a laundry list of limited-feature devices that add up to be more expensive. Just my thoughts
@Rilkir
@Rilkir 2 жыл бұрын
The Dirtywave M8 is even more portable, has 3 onboard synth engines, 4 sends FX, can load and edit samples, has a full sequencer with all kinds of precise sequence editing/modulation and is only $600.
@johnfath
@johnfath 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rilkir M8 is a tracker. Completely different workflow which is in my opinion much slower and less intuitive to a live (pianist) musician
@Rilkir
@Rilkir 2 жыл бұрын
@johnfath Have you ever used one? I think you'd be surprised by how fast it can be. Especially considering the M8 has all the quality-of-life and basic workflow features for working on songs that the OP-1F still lacks after more than a decade.
@johnfath
@johnfath 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rilkir i have not but I’ll look into it!
@Alckemy
@Alckemy 2 жыл бұрын
Nevermind you can get a decked out mac of various entry points and just about any daw you want. I want to try the op 1 field but tbh it’s just a flash of wealth
@folkscience-ftw
@folkscience-ftw 2 жыл бұрын
I hope someone does a video mashup of the youtube community laughing at TE.
@cheater00
@cheater00 2 жыл бұрын
rofl that vid really sums this whole debacle up really well
@rhampton1914
@rhampton1914 Жыл бұрын
i'm not tooo much into grove boxes anymore. i only use Modular Synths now. Make Noise, Erica Synths, XOR NerdSeq but i appreciate your input on these grove boxes...The OP-1 Field is a cool device and i considered it...Watching your Video i get nicely educated. i'll probably stick to Modular gear. Only Stand alone device i may consider is the Polyend Tracker Mini..I think that's very motivating ...Thanks for your Video
@thekhamisiproject
@thekhamisiproject 2 жыл бұрын
This OP-1 burn was f***ing BRILLIANT
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 2 жыл бұрын
that so true bro no cap
@Hakucho64
@Hakucho64 2 жыл бұрын
I am so sampling that laugh of yours at the end!
@jmahoneywaav
@jmahoneywaav 2 жыл бұрын
I have an mpc one and an op-1 v1 and the only advantage of the op-1 is portability. I am not buying the op-1 field for 2k at least. I still like ableton live suite and a push 2 best.
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i see i got ableton live suite also i do more dubstep And drum & bass and more
@Beautyoutofruin
@Beautyoutofruin 2 жыл бұрын
May I suggest having a look at Dirtywave M8? Got me one in February, now it goes everywhere I go 🙌🏻 8 tracks, is a tracker and sampler with built in soft synths, 3 of them and the sampler, midi and audio I/O
@4444-s3x
@4444-s3x 2 жыл бұрын
Gem of a channel love fr👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Drrolfski
@Drrolfski 2 жыл бұрын
But with the OP-1 you can get to be a hipster..
@MpcLiveBeats
@MpcLiveBeats 2 жыл бұрын
2.11 update is now
@erik_gerhard
@erik_gerhard 2 жыл бұрын
That laugh after “No. Fuckin. Way.” 🤣 that brought joy to *my* heart. I honestly feel the same way. If TE would have sold the original at half the price they would have sold 3X as many units or more. Always been interested in the stuff they make, but what we needed was a price CUT, not a price BUMP! Jeez Louise.
@junkfoodbad7395
@junkfoodbad7395 2 жыл бұрын
greed
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 Жыл бұрын
how would they afford to? I don't believe even at 3x the production level, they would reach an economy of scale to bring it to market at a reasonable price.
@redbirdsaraceno
@redbirdsaraceno 2 жыл бұрын
good to see teenage engineering gettin called out by so many youtubers .
@lofiprototype
@lofiprototype 2 жыл бұрын
Roland and Akai are killing it right now! But that OP-1 Field is just an insult to musicians. That little piece of stool is more expensive than a MPC X.... So many companies bringing out heat these days, and teenage engineering acts like their OP-1 is made out of unobtanium. GTFO 🤣🤣🤣 that piece of crap should be 200 dollars at most. I don't even hate that thing, but that price brings my piss to a boil 😂
@philippeleblanc856
@philippeleblanc856 2 жыл бұрын
Did you say piece of stool as in shit???? I'm on the floor. Brilliant bruh!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@BrettCarstens
@BrettCarstens 2 жыл бұрын
"Unobtainium!" 😂🤣
@arqfran75
@arqfran75 2 жыл бұрын
PERFECT. Thank you, sir.
@channelz3363
@channelz3363 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Loved every second
@koea2104
@koea2104 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought an MPC One and when I press track mute it doesn’t show me all the instrument individually? Any idea what it is
@blix1200
@blix1200 2 жыл бұрын
Notice that the Maschine+ has gone down in price by $200 recently while the MPC One has gone up that same amount since it was introduced?
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
it's still $1400 on NI's website and $1300 at Sweet Water. Tbh, it should be cheaper.
@Randuski
@Randuski Жыл бұрын
2k is too much for sure. But TE is like a luxury brand. And the thing is, people will continue to buy them. So they'll charge what they want. I bought an op1 field because it just speaks to me idk. Also, there are veeeery few keyboard based instrument samplers. And the op1 is the only portable mini keyboard sampler
@KnowledgeOfSelf144
@KnowledgeOfSelf144 2 жыл бұрын
How do I link it with the MPC One via USB adapter into input on mpc.. Also, I would eurorack with another synth
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 2 жыл бұрын
It looks the 80’s are in effect at Teenage Engineering’s office (playing “Whitelines” by Grandmaster Flash) 🤣🤣
@roy6090
@roy6090 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, yet there is Synthstrom Deluge too, amazing chunk of gear, testified by many. Have you tried it? What's your opinion on it?
@__cal29
@__cal29 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t catch your last stream on the syntakt - did you send it back? Wondering if it grew on you at all since your initial few videos since I’ve been eyeing it
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
No I kept it... I don't think the Elektron Syntakt is trash or even close to being bad. I just hate their corny fanbase.
@__cal29
@__cal29 2 жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree I never go on Reddit, but I went on there the other day to scope out some opinions and ya you are right about their fanbase haha worse then the normal Reddit crowd which is saying something. I’m thinking about pairing the syntakt with my Live 2 since I’ve been getting more into sound design. I just wanted your opinion since we make similar music and you always keep it real
@eightoheight
@eightoheight 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for your input all weekend long 😂😂😂
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
I was busy lol
@ChazSeamus28
@ChazSeamus28 2 жыл бұрын
this why I watch this channel, the honesty
@ChumpyDumps
@ChumpyDumps 2 жыл бұрын
I understand what you’re trying to say but every device you listed is a MIDI sequencer based device. Every single one of them is an iteration of an age old style of making electronic music. The Op-1 still doesn’t have any true direct competition because no one is doing the tape emulation thing. $2000 is expensive but all I’ve wanted since I bought an OP-1 10 years ago was a stereo OP-1 and this is it. It’s definitely worth $2000 for me because I get an experience no other gear has given me. I own a Maschine+, every piece of Elektron gear except the Rytm, I’ve owned multiple Deluges, MPC live and Live 2, I have a Dirtywave M8, Isla S2400, OP-Z, they are all basically doing the same thing. The OP-1 is still super unique.
@knobsbuttons2632
@knobsbuttons2632 2 жыл бұрын
Makes since I love the op products even as someone who can’t afford them BUT I also accept they are bad value for money. That argument is super valid now days value for money is extremely important to the average person and even more so to the average producer especially when it comes to gear.
@ChumpyDumps
@ChumpyDumps 2 жыл бұрын
@@knobsbuttons2632 value is in the eye of the beholder. All hardware is a luxury. Making music in general is a luxury. No one bats an eye when someone buys a Moog Matriarch utilizing 1970s technology for $2200. No one seems to care that the Rossum SP-1200 reissue which is literally a remake of the 1980s sampler with 6 seconds (might be 12 seconds now) is selling for $4000. And fact is, no one cares how your music is made. They just want to hear it. You can do things on the OP-1 that aren’t possible or would be ridiculously hard to do on an MPC Live. Like I’ve stated, I own and have used a lot of gear. You can look at a tech sheet of features and say “hey, this one is clearly better” but if it ends up not sounding that great (MPC, Deluge) and ends up not being inspiring than it doesn’t matter, that’s bad value for the individual. At the end of the day I get music made on the OP-1 that I couldn’t get made elsewhere. That’s value to me. Not to mention over the course of life my OP-1 has increased in value since when I originally bought it. Any MacBook or MPC live isn’t gonna be worth shit in 5 years.
@WavetableMetaphysics
@WavetableMetaphysics 2 жыл бұрын
Hey yo he said wtf are they smoking the title and thumbnail are all you need to confirm. Great content as always Ave! Had one in the past. Not trying it again.🤣🙏
@Sieism
@Sieism 2 жыл бұрын
its a trade in program for everyone that bought the original at $1200. its been established you'd spend $1200, so just sell your current one for $800 and throw it in with the $1200 for a new one and boom, youve now got the update. just dont think about this too much LOL
@Sieism
@Sieism 2 жыл бұрын
For that price it better come with its own small child to harvest adrenochrome from.
@johnsuggs3952
@johnsuggs3952 2 жыл бұрын
08:01
@MS-1
@MS-1 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Ave I was waiting for you to make this video and, am equaling laughing until I cough (and, I don't even smoke). TE rely on ripping off hipsters who buy their toys. (The rest of us use our better judgment based on features and, experience). There is a sucker, skipskag, scallywag, mark ass trick, and herb born every minute.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
It's just not worth it lol..
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 2 жыл бұрын
@@AveMcree 100% dude
@cellophaneriot
@cellophaneriot 2 жыл бұрын
For about half the price we’d consider the OP-1. And if we’d ever find one around 1K we’d probably pick one up. But this video nailed it…no f’n way at 2K…
@tali813
@tali813 2 жыл бұрын
You can pair the 2k OP1 with their $650 radio :D
@psychoutsounds
@psychoutsounds 2 жыл бұрын
Unison ads before your vids still make me chuckle. “Gonna Try something don’t expect it to sound good” neither do we pal. Neither do we.
@philippeleblanc856
@philippeleblanc856 2 жыл бұрын
No fucking way! Muahahahahaha.. One of your best videos yet bruh. Mpc all day!
@atozee1500
@atozee1500 2 жыл бұрын
Now THAT is putting things into perspective!
@redroomsufferingcounty
@redroomsufferingcounty 2 жыл бұрын
If you never had one…. If you didn’t spend time to unlock its capabilities… your opinion may be different
@deelux5519
@deelux5519 2 жыл бұрын
I had one......Not impressed.
@sleeper6000
@sleeper6000 2 жыл бұрын
You can get an sp404, and analogue heat from electron, after everything still come out for less than what you would spend on an Op-1 Field. I really hate this "premium" label as a means to just slap on additional cost. WIth their mixer too I think it's a little bit near $4K? It definitely meets some people's needs, but just feels like you are paying more for aesthetics, brand ownership over function and something that will last/ be used often. Also good luck with TE's customer support if and when the damn thing breaks.
@outdatedgear5036
@outdatedgear5036 2 жыл бұрын
I got a OP-1 and play it like an instrument. I try not to use it like a sampler or a groove box. There’s no way I’ll pay 2k just because someone on KZbin told me to buy it or it’s new. That’s just me outdated and don’t care haha
@Quantumedic
@Quantumedic 2 жыл бұрын
They on dope and dog food for that🤣 The buildup to the end of the video was priceless.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 2 жыл бұрын
lol thanks
@vonzo55
@vonzo55 2 жыл бұрын
Insane price. Instead I could buy a mac mini, a decent display, speakers and a midi controller and emulate op-1 into it :D
@boarderking133
@boarderking133 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Why do people fall for this? For 2k I can get a PC and controllers to emulate any synth in want. But ohhh the "workflow!" Shut up. If you can't figure out a different workflow you're just dumb.
@derbinhamler2103
@derbinhamler2103 Жыл бұрын
...or an Ipad Mini! Load up Koala, Beatmaker 3, Korg Gadget then go to work! Korg Gadget is like an OP-1 that can also utilize Rex files.
@urbannpa
@urbannpa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone said it!.
@DennisTaylorKnatural
@DennisTaylorKnatural 2 жыл бұрын
Yo Ave u seen the nerw MPC OS 2.11 update wowzers!!!!! so many new features its insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@michaeltrenier
@michaeltrenier 2 жыл бұрын
Who else DIED at the end laughing at that NO FN WAY 🤣🤣🤣as a proud SELLER of his OP1 those guys are NUTS 🥜
@AlekseiDroganov
@AlekseiDroganov 2 жыл бұрын
I liked your Big Question! 👍 Thank you.
@johnsuggs3952
@johnsuggs3952 2 жыл бұрын
07:56 - This video was good. But hands down, no contest the part I was waiting for and the best part of the video....."NO fucking way ahahahah"
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