Open Bar #89 - Last Orders

Catching up on superchats from Open Bar 89.

[@Gojeto346]

The highlights channel really is a gift, there’s so much EFAP lore and so many inside jokes that are “locked” behind day long podcasts, but Wolf being a chad and giving us those moments on the clips channel lets more people enjoy the little moments when those past EFAP things are mentioned

[@enderlain385]

Yep. There's only so much time. You really need to catch up on the lore

[@CorenDawg]

#ChadWolf

[@samwallaceart288]

Yeah soon we'll get a whole drove of fans who just stumbled in on the highlights only to find out there are 1000s of hours backlog

[@achtungfox]

So true. I never wouldve known the menace that is Diabeto of not for EFAP highlights.

[@Alakazzam09]

Wolf is the best! I love that pupper!

[@THEGM1234]

Best opening ever

[@Oetam8566]

Absolutely lol

[@MegaSpideyman]

Delighted to see my Superchat answered as the very first question and so thoroughly, too!! Very much appreciated, lads.

[@davidnierzwick2775]

Stellar Blade is getting loads of love👏👏👏!

[@dablackwizards5312]

Oh it's getting loads alright

[@davidnierzwick2775]

@@dablackwizards5312 😬😃

[@MelbourneArchviz]

It's too hard dammit!

[@GenesisXV]

@@dablackwizards5312I literally said that after I read OP’s comment 😂😂😂

[@realphoenixking]

I've given it 5 loads already!

[@kevinoneil5120]

I wouldn't say "the message" started with Ghostbusters 2016, but that film was definitely the catalyst for the trend of "let's deflect all legitimate criticism as bigotry"

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Yup. And the marketing started it before the film even released. This film's not for you.

[@pistolbobcat5374]

It was already slowly in preparation the moment George so stupidly signed Star Wars over to a cunt who secretly always hated him, in 2012 Then TFA succeeded upon release so they knew they’d get away with it and only lately people are fiiiinally getting fed up of this shit

[@chillpengeru]

It's crazy how that whole thing didn't die right there with the giant failure of the film. Somehow here we are 8 years later still pushing the same crap.

[@00marinevlad00]

1:22:09 🎉 ❤❤🎉 I also meant open bar superchat for #88 if drinker is up 4 dead by daylight. I thought The Lego Movie may have started it 😊

[@pistolbobcat5374]

Force Awakens was definitely the slow start, they already knew what they wanted to do with the new trilogy, after it made bank at the box office they figured "lets double down" and so TLJ was just full blown "the message", the girls are never wrong, Finn, Poe and Luke are muppets who spend the entire film getting slapped, tazed, stun gunned or talked down to by the purple haired girl boss and basically told "respect mah authorrity you cocky cocksure flyyyboy".

[@anddon3609]

Drinker and mauler just chatting away, so simple but it’s the only thing that brings me joy in life

[@Cobusftwmahoniez]

only? rip in pepperonies

[@anddon3609]

Yes. Pepperoni is better than pineapple on pizza but not my fav

[@Admin-hr1xc]

Yes the simple things in life can be the best. I do hope you can add a few more activities that bring you joy. Cheers

[@CorenDawg]

Shoutout to Endymion for interrupting people non stop last Open Bar, and for just talking in meaningless circles. It really added to the episode!

[@izclop1375]

Seriously. If he’s never on again, it’ll be too soon.

[@JohnGoetzGaming]

Is he the gamer dude with the FF background? Hell I can be their gaming guest if that's the best they can do lol I have 195 platinum trophies and won't interrupt I swear!

[@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden]

It was really nice to finally have someone distract me from how annoying I find George.

[@jleowags48]

He was ok for the first half, definitely got more indulgent as it went on.

[@gustavo_oviedo]

Not all his contributions were meaningless. Mauler even quotes him in this catch up. But he does take over the conversations quite a bit and interrupts a lot. Def not in the top 5 open bar guests. I'd much rather have the despot

[@Zenmaster_0-0_]

Buy Stellar blade. Sometimes, it's not about the money, it's about sending a message.

[@devilsadvocate9768]

That's what they said when they financed all the DEI movies ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@atlantah5496]

nahh I only buy games if they are goood and fit what I wanna play. Who buys games for a message, that's retarded

[@mrfafaa96]

Don't own a PS5, so think I'll wait and see if it eventually pops up on steam like other PS5 "exclusives"

[@Zenmaster_0-0_]

@@devilsadvocate9768 Always be prepared to use your enemies tactics against them .

[@devilsadvocate9768]

@@Zenmaster_0-0_ I don't have enemies 🤷‍♂You do you...good luck.

[@christophergillette7167]

My view of “Frozen” 1: Necessary emotional buildup for “Let It Go” 2: “Let It Go” 3: all the other silly stuff

[@MegaSpideyman]

But then she refuses to return home despite seemingly accepting her powers in that song, rendering it a waste of time and completely incongruent with the rest of it.

[@ChaoticYak1]

Honestly, I think they messed up with making Hans a villain out of nowhere. The tension of trying to come to grips with her powers was enough for the movie even if they didn't dare make Elsa the villain. The irony is that she declares that she's embracing who she is and throws everything to the wind and shows how powerful she is, but that power is hurting others even though she doesn't realize it. And later she admits that she has no control over what is happening, that she can't do anything. The only way that the winter was broken was when she actually took control of her power. I suppose self-control isn't a message that society wants to put out nowadays but whether they meant to or not, that is really the message of that movie.

[@christophergillette7167]

@@MegaSpideyman Correct. Part of why everything after that one great scene felt unnecessary.

[@christophergillette7167]

@@ChaoticYak1 Yep. One great scene, and then everything else chipped away at the overall film.

[@Doomchild2XL]

Confirmed: Best opening ever! 😅

[@tylergoodman3560]

This is my favorite opening ever. ❤🎉

[@mynameisnobody8597]

The “It’s not your fault” dialogue worked well in Jaws when Brody got slapped by the mom.

[@OGDanteZero]

1:03:40 I would say that my dad really got me into the movies that I mainly enjoy to this day. We never had much to say to each other until we talk about movies.

[@inferior3199]

Idk what Wolf's state on being on the internet is, but it would be so nice to have Wolf appear on an open bar

[@heikira438]

I'll put it this way. Wolf deleted his channel and streamed for the 1st time in 5 years recently. He even said he doesn't regret deleting his channel. It's not good for his mental health. I don't think he's thrilled about talking subjects that could piss him off and spiral down the same path that made him leave in the first place.

[@samwallaceart288]

I think it'd be nice for him to guest on a Bar or FAP, no pressure, and take off when he's done

[@snekks7497]

More skin = hard mode? I see what ya did there.

[@WayStedYou]

Anti games media filter since they won't be able to play hard mode

[@curtbolding5948]

Favorite Father Ted -- The one where the Bishops come to visit and they teach Father Jack to say either "Yes" or "That would be an ecumenical matter"

[@RikkSpencer]

Krull would be good to remake, if the remake was guaranteed to be good.

[@christophergillette7167]

If you ignore the lore destruction and character assassination perpetrated by the opening crawl, Force Awakens had some very promising moments early on. Then every promise was broken

[@MegaSpideyman]

What were they?

[@christophergillette7167]

@@MegaSpideyman Po, Finn, and Rey all had promising introductions. Captain Phasma and Kylo Ren seemed menacing. The first battle showed First Order stormtroopers appearing competent and dangerous. Loads of potential. Then the rest of the movie happened. Followed by 8 and 9 Mauler’s huge (and still incomplete) critique of Force Awakens notes the elements of the first act that had real potential. But as is so often the case with JJ, the potential was mostly squandered

[@davidnierzwick2775]

Time Travel movie, Donnie Darko! 💪😎👍

[@NuttBuster533]

7:04 a remake of brokeback mountain with an all female cast would be something I think would do better than the original

[@sebastianbillings7807]

Margot Robbie and .. gal gadot working on a ranch together. Their eyes meet across a cattle fence..

[@TheEducator89]

Not fuckin Robbie. Sweeney and Gadot im on board with.

[@MegaSpideyman]

​@@TheEducator89Why those?

[@sebastianbillings7807]

@@TheEducator89 i’m embarrassed to say I don’t even know who that is but I’ve heard drinker say the name lately

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

"FOOKIN' SCISSORING!" - AZ - 🤣🤣🤣

[@geirnp]

Frequently asked question about time travel was a surprisingly fun movie with loads of little details and eastereggs that are easy to miss. Worth a watch.

[@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden]

What?

[@jonbaxter2254]

To add to Drinker's point on a good TFA scene, where Rey is scrubbing the grime off some junk, looks up and sees a spaceship doing loops. And smiles. It's only a brief moment, but it is so good. Could have done much with it.

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

My favorite part of the movie I think. Just good stuff.

[@BlissfulZen]

I could listen to you two for days. Never boring, always entertaining....

[@DJ-fw7mi]

Best opener ever!

[@InverseFlash]

gday gents. You know that Wolf stream was really nice.

[@jasonr4518]

Would you happen to know the name of said stream?

[@InverseFlash]

@@jasonr4518 "An Afternoon Q&A"

[@martinw6371]

​@@jasonr4518 it's called "an afternoon q &a" on the efap highlights channel under the Live tab.

[@jasonr4518]

@@InverseFlash Thank you!

[@redmuskratt]

What dreams may come, makes me cry every time.

[@Decimus_Rahl]

Yall are the best.

[@bobulationnation]

A remake of Clash of the Titans where they don't alter the story

[@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden]

Another remake that’s not necessary but I think I understand the sentiment.

[@MakerMike94]

The soundtrack for The Final Countdown is so underrated.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

Surprised Josh Brolin didn't come up in the Joel from Last of Us casting discussion, I always thought he was the obvious ideal choice though I think Pascal did a fine job.

[@samwallaceart288]

I don't mind Pedro but Josh or Hugh were always the obvious choices. Wouldn't surprise me if during dev they described Joel as "rough Texan, y'know, a Josh Brolin type".

[@Novictus]

@@samwallaceart288 Ohhh hugh would have been great

[@Gguy061]

You want a guaranteed cry? Watch the original Grave of the Fireflies from 1988

[@Dexidoodle]

Most impactful/memorable movie moment - seen in the cinema... The first movie I saw in the cinema was Krull. I was 5. I will always remember Cyclops being crushed while trying to hold the door open so everyone could escape.😢 Crikey, I'm old. Last good Disney film... Zootopia 2016... or Coco (Pixar) 2017. It's been a while.

[@WordsCanBeLikeXRays]

I can listen to yall talk about whatever the subject, for hours.

[@finbarwhite9989]

Opening Chatting about boobs in a game couldn't help but laugh also when I hear the the word boobs I always hear the cinemasin guy saying booobzs lol

[@adamtwamley293]

If you want a good weep stick the futurama episodes luck of the fryish or jurassic bark

[@paulwade4058]

Good cinematic scene. Trinity's helicopter escape on The Matrix. With the circular glass explosion and Keanu being a badass.

[@Marcawesome56]

Angels ending is amazing!

[@winterwolfsden]

New MK movie for sure. They got Karl Urban coming in as Johnny Cage.

[@samwallaceart288]

_Tangled_ is GOATED though. My tower homegirl deserves the world

[@leedesigner1977]

Back to the Future over Alien and Aliens for me. With Will on this one, whole heartedly.

[@Aeonfell]

Thank you. Massive Algos.

[@TheEducator89]

Remaking the prequels wpuld be good. Keep the overall plot. Rewrite with natural dialogue and directed but someone interested in the outcome.

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

Yeah they had the general outline done well but key events and narration needs an overhaul. The SifoDyas plot point, the strange acceptance of an army from some dubious Clone makers; more of the jedi vs Republic struggle regarding the Chancellor, etc etc to facilitate a more gradual change of Anakin from a good Jedi to a more morally/ethically flexible man who is willing to dabble in the Dark Side. Also, please take Jar Jar out.

[@azrielisrael8505]

Awesome intro 😂

[@SilentEvil999]

46:58 - "They were studying the effects of nostalgia-baiting, I'll tell you what the effect is it's pissing me off" Ghostbusters reference FTW 😅

[@beardog7020]

Mauler shouting at the Coen Brother’s gives me great joy. They have produced some of the best movies of the 90s and 2000s. It is interesting how much of their work is portraying typically “bad” storytelling in a subversive and refreshing light. I’ve had dozens of conversations about how that abrupt death works incredibly well for what the film is attempting to tell with its storytelling.

[@christophergillette7167]

“Write what you know” absolutely needs the caveat that a writer can research subjects and talk to people who know the subject. An intensely rude journalist dismissed everything about Brandon Sanderson because he’s lived a peaceful, uneventful life. But who cares? He’s extremely creative and imaginitive, he takes the time to study a subject before writing about it, and he seeks the opinions of people who have more experience.

[@samwallaceart288]

I prefer "get to know what you're writing about"

[@christophergillette7167]

@@samwallaceart288 Way more useful

[@ODST_Parker]

Oh, The Final Countdown is so great! It's an old time travel story that takes itself very seriously, played completely straight. Half the movie is spent just trying to figure out what the hell happened, there's some profound stuff about history throughout, and while very dated, it does a great job with its production for both action and everything in-between. As was stated, it's onboard the real ship, using the real planes, featuring real US Navy personnel, etc. A very good soundtrack on top of everything else. One of my favorite classic military movies.

[@peterc3262]

Complete agreement about the RE2 remake. Whoever made the comment - im with you.

[@anthonymcgrath]

Soul is superb - make sure to watch it

[@bengordon4690]

The staunch silence regarding Red Dwarf from Mauler 😂

[@legoseanland1760]

Weepy movie, Passion of the Christ kicked my ass

[@Gator159]

Chippendale rescue rangers movie had the original cursed Sonic The hedgehog. A reference to something that ages worse every year

[@MrSupertallblackman]

The Girl in Question doesn't have the re used line from Buffy. That's in the episode Soul Purpose.

[@MauLerYT]

Oh yeah, I got em mixed up - You do see her from behind though cause I don't think they could get her

[@MrSupertallblackman]

@@MauLerYT Yes, but technically that wasn't actually Buffy. It was a Slayer decoy that just looks like Buffy...if you're going by the comic book follow up to the show.

[@paulware4701]

Movies and where you saw them: "Star Trek the Motion Picture". Saw it in Chicago, Christmas 1979. Missed the first twenty minutes but didn't care because it was Star Trek on the big screen. Magic.

[@lonepigeon68]

Add a vote from me for starting all Last Orders in a very similar way to this one.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Lordy, 2 hours. That's wfh radio sorted.

[@YikersGrossout]

Its funny ive always considered the fellowship anyone who is advocating for better movies and can be civil while doing so. I personally think the fellowship isnt something you join its something you are eventually recognized as part of. Mauler and drinker are foundational members of the fellowship without even knowing fully what it is.

[@J.Hermansson]

Regarding time travel movies. I remember liking The Philadelphia experiment from 1984.

[@graysonfenwick2701]

When Drinker and Mauler are talking about how we don't have IPs that we can call our own, that's because the IPs we claim are not Television or film, it's video games nowadays.

[@davidgannon5388]

1:47:44 - BttF2 is a tweener. You cannot enjoy it unless you first see BttF, and subsequently see BttF3. Aliens, on the other hand, explains *everything* you need in the opening minutes to enjoy it *without* needing to see the original first. Aliens is the superior sequel.

[@hariman7727]

For the last decent Disney movie I will argue Tangled. Because we need more awareness of narcissists and what they'll actually do in this world. EDIT: I can forgive a LOT of Ghostbusters: Afterlife, but the biggest thing that is the kiss of death looking back? Turning Egon into a cross between a deadbeat dad and Alexander Roivas from Eternal Darkness. I REALLY hate that they made him a completely absent father until after he's dead.

[@samwallaceart288]

_Tangled_ is my favorite of all Disney. It just nails every beat; accessible fun _and_ artistically gorgeous, great songs _and_ great dialogue, perfectly balanced. For me, _Frozen_ was the beginning of the "woke Disney" era. They made a _big_ deal about how that movie curbs the "true love" cliché with the sister angle. What started as an accident with how Frozen was written became absolute gospel for Disney; "remake the story, but take out the guy; make the awesome female character an object of worship at all costs" Tangled has zero of that, it's just a good movie minding its own business.

[@davidgannon5388]

2:00:19 - Lara Croft, Seamus (Metroid), and Chun Li. (But I was *so* tempted to say "Ms. Pac-Man!" LOL!)

[@mat_tamarin]

Was gunna make my own comment but will add to these very worthy suggestions. Miranda Lawson (Mass Effect 2) Faith (Mirrors Edge) Judy Alvarez (Cyberpunk 2077)

[@samwallaceart288]

I always respected Bayonetta. No need for cleavage or skin; just longass legs, impeccable skintight tailoring, and confidence for days.

[@shan4680]

Last orders, hot off the press.

[@derekpink]

14:26 “My friends… you bow to no one.” 😢

[@lordshaitan]

33:50 Yep, shows must maintain their internal logic. I will accept any stupid physics or rules in a fictional world right up until they break them for the power of plot.

[@fluxqemist4015]

Last good Disney movie for me would be Big Hero 6 or zootopia. Both use some pretty adult concepts in the story narrative which was rather surprising at the time. Frozen 1 was alright but agree it was over hyped.

[@774Rob]

I watched Jurassic Park a few times at the cinema, I loved it loads. The last time I went on acid and it was shit. The dinosaurs looked plastic.

[@BunnySkinning]

How dare you not mention Rhino as a Spider-man villain that Batman would struggle with!? Rhino > buildings, Bruce Wayne owns a lot of buildings, checkmate. Also he produces some potent milk, apparently.

[@MegaSpideyman]

The rhino milk 😆

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

🥛🦏🦏🦏🦏

[@THARG67]

Jonathan Pies 'Opression Obsession' video made me aware of the 'Message'..

[@J.Hermansson]

When it comes to what Disney movie was the last one you liked. Well for me, being a "bit" older then you guys, the last one I liked was The Great Mouse Detective, 1986. I was 21 at the time, I watched it with my younger cousin. I enjoyed it, mostly cause they used some really good Swedish actors for the Swedish dub. Sure I liked UP to, but that's about it. There have been good movies after that, but I never watched them in a movie theater, so it's not the same.

[@peteinthedesert7082]

I don't think Frozen is a "must see" at all. Frozen was made for girls (ages 2-18 mainly). Basically, its about a magic powered girl (Elsa) accidentally hurting and almost killing (twice, I seem to remember) her younger sister, Anna (who does NOT have powers). There's a redemption arc of sorts (Anna's love for her older sister, and Elsa realizing that love is the answer), ...but without the voice acting of Kristen Bell (Anna), and her singing in many popular memorable songs, and obviously a mega mega hit song by Idina Menzel (Let It Go - almost 5 billion views on YT among 4 "official" vids), and the film would have done about as well as Tangled ($600 million).

[@coltencurlin45]

Xbox is so dry on new games right now. I might just buy stellar blade out of spite.

[@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden]

I respect Drinker’s appreciation of Back to the Future II.

[@J.Hermansson]

Regarding memorable moments. I still remember, back in 1979, when I was watching Alien for the first time. At the end when Ripley is looking for the cat, I was gripping the arm rests, my knuckles white, screaming; -" Fu... the cat, RUN, RUN!!!!

[@2tone209]

AY UP DRINKER AND MAULER

[@Gguy061]

Yeah, but I don't wanna see Godzilla punching a giant monkey. I wanna see Godzilla trading lightning spit with Ghidora and Rodan and the giant lobster thing from the 1960s I watched on vhs as a kid

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

0:54 That's not the only thing that's harder heh, heh, heh

[@AutomationDnD]

I *SEE* what ya did there! heh (BAD man)

[@paulware4701]

I don't know when The Message started appearing in movies, but in TV shows it was probably Quincy. After a few decent (?) seasons, every episode was about some kind of public safety hobby horse for Jack Klugman to get on; I think the first one I can remember was driver awareness and people falling asleep at the wheel on the Interstates; the writing was so painfully bad that it made you wince. Later there was a show called The Trials of Rosie O'Grady that followed a similar path and in one episode the lead actress actually turned and delivered a monologue straight to camera, and she looked so embarrassed doing it, as if she wanted to beg for the viewers not to laugh their arses off at her. Good times.

[@christophergillette7167]

In terms of Angel’s ending, there are stories when you really need to focus on what matters most to a character, rather than a viewer’s/reader’s desire for a happily ever after. I wrote a story where literally every major character is killed, but it’s intended to be uplifting. Because each of them first gets what they want most, and their goals are achieved.

[@-EelsivarT-]

When Mel Gibson grabs the flag in the patriot and runs to the front screaming hold the line no retreat hold! The tears flow every time

[@wolfofthewest8019]

Batman would take out Sandman in one scene in a Sinister Six scenario where he's fighting the top tier of Spider-Man's rogues gallery. Sandman has an easily exploited weakness that would be quite obvious to someone as brilliant as Batman. Like if you asked me to write that comic, I would include Sandman as the chump who gets taken out first and easiest. Green Goblin is top tier and would present a serious threat to Batman, I won't even argue that. Other good candidates would be Chameleon, who would put Batman's detective skills to the test; Lizard, who is basically a very smart, even stronger version of Croc (with shades of Man-Bat); and Kraven the Hunter is another top tier threat due to his ability to match Batman in skills, outmatch him in strength, and his tactical flexibility. Hilariously, I can't think of a single Batman villain who would threaten Spider-Man. I mean, maybe the Joker? Until they were in the same room, where Spidey's superhuman speed and agility would win the day.

[@samwallaceart288]

I think Mr Freeze, Scarecrow, the League of Shadows, and the Riddler could give Spidey a run for his money; they'd just need to kidnap MJ and lure him into a trap.

[@wolfofthewest8019]

@@samwallaceart288 Yeah, Mr. Freeze and Scarecrow are good choices too. Not so sure about the League of Shadows, unless we're also counting Ras. A bunch of ninjas would get smoked by the combination of super agility and spider-senses. Maybe with Ras organizing them? Still, at the end of the day the League is pretty much that same thing as The Hand, and Spidey would rock the Hand. As for Riddler, it's the same problem as Joker. Sure, if he kidnaps MJ he can lure Spidey into a deathtrap...but once he's got Spidey in his clutches, he's gonna want to brag and do the villain monologue, and that's when super agility and spidey sense ensures he gets chumped. Batman's "thinky" villains, like Riddler and Joker, can't handle Bats in a fight either, but at least with Bats if you're standing 50 feet away you can run for it. With Spidey, he'll clear 150 feet and be punching you in your non-superpowered normal human head with enough force to shatter an engine block before you can blink. And like, all those sneaky traps and barriers you thought you put between yourself and him? Useless, because his spidey sense thwarts them all. Now, Mr. Freeze? Cold is going to slow down Spidey's reactions. And Scarecrow? Very hard to dodge a cloud of gas, and spidey sense isn't much help when you're hallucinating threats.

[@samwallaceart288]

@@wolfofthewest8019 Yeah, League of Shadows and Riddler, it's on the condition that it's a Civil War-style trap where the villains have a blast-wall to hide behind and they kill Spidey as quickly as possible before he finds a way out. Mr. Freeze could definitely do a 1v1 though. Between his ice powers and the lost love backstory, Mr. Freeze would be an excellent Spiderman opponent.

[@wolfofthewest8019]

@@samwallaceart288 "Between his ice powers and the lost love backstory, Mr. Freeze would be an excellent Spiderman opponent." Honestly, well-meaning scientists who turned themselves into mutant freaks and go on a villainous rampage is like two-thirds of Spidey's rogues galley already, he'd fit right in.

[@samwallaceart288]

On my "showing character to a black friend" superchat, I meant it more in the context of characters who fall under a stereotype but you're trying to do it right. With most characters this won't really come up, but supposing there was a black gangster who shows up from the inner city in my story, such questions help remind me not to fall back on 20-year-old movie clichés but put a little more thought into it. Whether or not I actually show anyone isn't really the point, just that if they _did_ see it, it would hold up to scrutiny quality-wise. It's mostly just me not being familiar with the culture first-hand and not having to deal with the stereotypes personally, it's useful to do research and question "am I getting the culture right or am I parroting what I saw in a movie somewhere?" Question invites me to actually look up videos of the people in question, whatever the class, race, location, or profession, and actually study the way they talk and what they prioritize. Black gangsters feels like a common example but really this applies to anybody you're trying to write. If I'm writing about a master welder, I wanna know that a real mechanic reading it will be able to enjoy it; that's more what I'm getting at. But again, that's to each their own; it shouldn't be mandated arbitrarily by some marketing yahoo

[@paulware4701]

Not my favourite cinema moment, but certainly the most unexpected and gut-wrenching was the destruction of the Enterprise in The Search for Spock. The death of Spock in Wrath of Khan had been telegraphed but the destruction of the Enterprise came out of nowhere. "My God, Bones, what have I done?"

[@xgodzhiredgunx]

Terminator came out in 1984, my favorite for sure. Forrest Gump for tears.

[@dannyolortegui3776]

Let me ask your opinion here: Do you think T1 is better than T2 or are they both on the same level, but in different genres?

[@Starwarslegorob]

“Let it go, Let it Gooo “ Drinker

[@bengordon4690]

After hearing that impassioned speech from Mauler about Angel and its payoffs- I am in no doubt you will have a field day with The Wire and its intricacies when it comes to set up/payoff and character work that is woven through out. Blah blah blah blah...treat yourself please 😂

[@farharbor3178]

I still haven't emotionally recovered from Drinker's god damn april fools video.

[@KelaVakuya1]

In American schools, they are teaching that January 6th was the worst event in modern history. Little to no mention of 9/11 anymore. It is sad for the people who died to just be forgotten in a horrible tragedy like that.

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

"The first battlefield is to rewrite history...take away the heritage of a people and they are easily persuaded." - Karl Marx - They're teaching the exact same rhetoric to kids in schools today. 🤨

[@curtbolding5948]

1984 -- The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai !!

[@marychocolatefairy]

13:35 Re Frozen and its hyper-popularity: Speaking as a girl with a sister (who I even saw it with, heh)- yeah, it was okay, and of course that one song was epic, but I wouldn't put it quality-wise with some of the other Disney films, like Beauty and the Beast. I remember thinking, "Why does Kristen Bell keep singing when Idina Menzel is in the cast?" This was after Bell's third song or so, and we hadn't even got to Let It Go.

[@DanielGonzalez-kr4ed]

You had my attention at "titty" 😂

[@Show4224]

Recent Disney, I did enjoy the new Haunted Mansion. Before that though, it was Encanto.

[@Banditt_Red]

Mauler is out of his gourd about pirates 2. It’s one of the sequels that surpassed the original

[@AndrewK-ps9wd]

Could someone explain why wolf doesn't stream with efap crew anymore? I'm new to most of these channels and haven't caught up with their videos. But seems like there is some drama that went down with them.

[@samwallaceart288]

Wolf got into a lot of heated back and forths with people he covered (prior to / separately from EFAP); basically he sought out toxic people to ridicule, they got toxic on him, and he'd be toxic right back. Turned into a vicious cycle of negativity and it cut too close to home. While MauLer and Rags on their EFAPs with him could brush stuff off or at least pick their battles better, Wolf had a way of getting genuinely pissed off at the internet and needing to take sabbaticals. Moreso than the others, Wolf had a dedicated and intense anti-fanbase (which his habits of picking fights didn't really help) and it just got to the point where his hobby was making him miserable. MauLer and Rags were cool with him at every step and when he was like "guys I need to just tap out here" they were like "sure man, whatever you need just let us know how we can help". Afterwards Fringy became their regular 3rd, which I'm happy with cause he was on every other episode anyways and is a good complement to Rags IMO. Wolf and the others are still on good terms in DMs, Wolf is just taking it easy, far as I know. Recently Wolf started the EFAP Highlights channel and does some editing for them, but it seems he's had enough of the main-spotlight big-name kind of viewer engagement.

[@GenMVeers]

Nice, but *_Gangs of London_* Drinker review, when 🤔?

[@donmongoose]

Season 1 silly but great, season 2 felt like fanfiction based on the first sadly.

[@soezsoez]

QQ MOVIE = 1. RADIO 2003 with cuba gooding jr or 2. Men of Honor 2000 when cuba gooding jr is a diver in the army with de niro as meanie trainer guy or 3. remember the titans is good too

[@Starwarslegorob]

Last Call

[@keatonkitsune4064]

Just to be kind of pedantic... A lot of the first Ghostbuster's aesthetic/feeling comes from how the ghostbusters were portrayed. They were all (aside from Winston and Janine) actually intelligent people, professors and the like. But they were basically just normal people. They busted and fought ghosts but despite the fantastic premise of their job, they were just pest control. It was very down to earth despite the absurdity and fantastic nature of fighting ghosts.

[@markusjanus2151]

Hey, How's it going guys Great show so far. Wanna touch base with you on a movie. Specifically, "The Final Countdown" you heard about. It's a movie I would HIGHLY recommend. 1. For a 'B" rated movie the production on it was top notch for the time. 2. It had live action shots from an actual Aircraft Carrier (it's a somewhat spoiler sorry). 3. Actors and Actresses did a good job action, they were in the moment and worked. Sorry for the rant but you guys like older war movies and this at least fits the bill. May your liquor always flow and the bill be just as low.

[@lordshaitan]

I'd love to see The Last Starfighter remade. I wouldn't even care about the inevitable recasting with a woman -- I mean Birthing Person 😉