Opening The Coffin Of Tower Hill's Last Axe Execution Victim

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@OcotilloTom Ай бұрын

I had an ancestor (Thomas Boyte 1665-1715) who was "Attained of High Treason for leveling warr against his Sacred Majesty James II under the Duke of Monmouth" after his name was found on a roster of rebels. The Duke lost his head. At age 19 Thomas was sentenced to servitude in the sugar cane fields in Barbados for 10 years. After James II was dethroned he and the other "rebels" received a pardon. Thomas came to Virginia in 1691, Thus becoming our family's first ancestor in the New World. Tom Boyte, Arizona USA

@abeonthehill166 Ай бұрын

Thank goodness that the British Parliament kicked out the King ( James 2 ,…..a Catholic ), thus allowing a Protestant Dutch Prince of Orange to become the English Constitutional Monarch . After freeing your Ancestor , your biological lineage has arrived at you ! Thanks for sharing your History man and i wish you & yours many more generations in the Future 🙏😉

@SurfCityBill Ай бұрын

And then what? He became a plantation and slave owner?

@peterrichards931 Ай бұрын

@@SurfCityBill No, a farmer and successful tobacco magnate responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people to-date. OH wait that was the native Americans who showed the English settlers tobacco in the first place with their Peace-Pipes...

@Camping-t6d Ай бұрын

@@peterrichards931 It wasn't tobacco 😂 in the peace pipe.

@swl9104 Ай бұрын

@@Camping-t6d It wasn't cannabis if that's what you were thinking. They smoked tobacco with a mixture of other plants, marijuana was rarely included.

@davidvaughn7752 Ай бұрын

Those blocks are used over and over again. The claim that it is "the exact" one is spurious at best.

@RHR-221b Ай бұрын

Agreed, David. Re: The axe that beheaded Baird's and Hardie's heads after the Scottish Insurrection (8 September 1820, outside Stirling's Tolbooth on Broad Street): Apparently, the axehead has been renewed, alongside its shaft, within Stirling's Albert Halls' 'Museum' section, if not on display, then within its 'basement' ... Stay free, Messrs. Wilson, Baird and Hardie et al. Much more Truth available, if you have the searching time.

@MountainRaven1960 2 ай бұрын

Lovett; ‘What! A used block?! I demand a fresh one!’ Executioner; ‘Sorry Sir, no can do, due to ‘CUT BACKS’ LOLOL!!!!!’

@warwickscram1656 Ай бұрын

I guess they 'axed' his budget 😂

@brianliggett9087 Ай бұрын

yes they didint like "chopping" and changing !

@willyspinney1959 Ай бұрын

it is highly likely that the skeleton without the head was passed-off as being that of Simon Fraser in a ruse to placate and console his relatives, and that as jackreacher5667 says below, his body was disposed in an unmarked pauper's grave.

@trevorgoldie1201 Ай бұрын

So, no opening of the coffins. CLICKBAIT

Ай бұрын

Thnx.

@robertedward9456 Ай бұрын

I agree hate click bait.if they say it could be, maybe is it possible so on but to make a video and say it was or is and they know it’s not what’s the point in making a video just make a video that’s true

@edgarlee2802 Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@lwscijunkie 2 ай бұрын

So...everyone got their own block? How would anyone know the two axe cuts on the block were from Fraser's execution?

@Peter_Kalve 2 ай бұрын

Provenance.

@Aussie3225 Ай бұрын

They asked his head when they opened his coffin.

@-kabepugs3009 Ай бұрын

DNA tests. 😮

@on2wheelz28 Ай бұрын

@Aussie3225 Too funny Man!🤣

@richardgibbins5612 Ай бұрын

He always was a chip off the 'ol block!😅

@jonathanaikman2285 Ай бұрын

The female pelvis is a different shape from the male pelvis. Does that mean that the male pelvis of a 'trans woman' changes instantaneously to that of a female just as soon as he gives himself a woman's name and vice versa? I don't think it does does it?

@marykayhawkshead3255 Ай бұрын

Drawing upon my 45+ years in medicine, I have seen many, many pelvic radiographs, (X-rays). Given that a pelvis is described as android, (male) or gynecoid, (female) does not mean that variances do not occur. Genetic information can be transmitted with errors that cause the pelvis to form with male or female traits that are not typical to the sex of a fetus.

@aaronjohnson9763 Ай бұрын

@jonathanaikman2285 how does it feel to be a mouth breather?

@stickmenwithrayguns Ай бұрын

"Herself" you biggot. 😂

@jonathanaikman2285 Ай бұрын

@@aaronjohnson9763 The usual lefty abuse with nothing else of value to add.

@jonathanaikman2285 Ай бұрын

@@marykayhawkshead3255 How many of these 'variances' are we talking about in relation to men pretending to be women? Then there's skull size, bodyfat distribution, hand size, foot size, facial differences, voice differences and of course breasts and genitalia differences. Surely I don't have to remind you of this. Chromosomes, oestrogen, testosterone etc etc. At least you gave a lengthy response instead of the usual left-wing abuse.

@th.burggraf7814 Ай бұрын

I always get a bit emotional when I see old traditions disappearing...

@thra5herxb12s Ай бұрын

CLICKBAIT. IT WASNT HIM AND YOU SEE NOTHING !!!

@williamcattr267 Ай бұрын

4:35 While mentioning that two marks on the block is an interesting observation regarding his execution, how can we be sure that this block was not used for two different executions? I mean, he may have very well had his head chopped of on this very block, but who can say with any reasonable certainty that either someone before or after him wasn't executed on the same block. Did they not reuse these blocks, or was there a new one for each person executed?

@HandyMan657 Ай бұрын

I'm curious, are you suggesting that they had an axe and block made for each execution?

@jackreacher5667 Ай бұрын

There where two types of Treason, Petty and High, High treason meant for a commoner that you where beheaded hung ,drawn and quartered, and your head was spiked and placed in a place for the public to see, the body was quartered and sent to four different places around the country. For a Noble person they where beheaded and placed on a spike but the body was not hung, drawn and quartered , the heads of all people accused of treason was left to rot . Its unlikely the authority's would of agreed to the remains of Lovat to return to Scotland (the English where particularly hard on Irish/Scottish rebels.) Because of t his its unlikely that he was buried in the chapel, perhaps the Fraser family crypt might be a better place to look, but in all likely hood the body was buried in a paupers grave near by.

@willyspinney1959 Ай бұрын

it is highly likely that the skeleton without the head was a ruse to placate and console his relatives, and as you say, his is body was actually buried in an unmarked pauper's grave.

@snapdragon6601 Ай бұрын

Petty Treason? In some ways the two terms almost feel like opposites. Like calling something a minor catastrophe, the concept of a jumbo shrimp, or using the phrase "That's a definite maybe." 😆

@jackreacher5667 Ай бұрын

@@snapdragon6601 Or a probable could be ?😊👍

@Will-nc7lp Ай бұрын

Obviously not hard on the Welsh then.

@jackreacher5667 Ай бұрын

@@Will-nc7lp Fair point, but revolts in Wales tended to be localised affairs rarely extending into England, of course when they captured (If they captured) leaders they where executed, When the Jacobite's under the old and new pretenders revolted the threat to the capital (London) was very real and scared the ruling elites. There reasons for revolt tended to be political not cultural (IE replacing the Hanoverians with the Stuarts) Ireland was a slightly different matter , here the revolts tended to be large dynastic and powerful family's taking sides and fighting each other along with religious issues. Wales was also incorporated into the English sphere a lot earlier with plantations of ex-soldiers being placed into Welsh towns for years after, thus Anglicising the population to an extent . This is a general overview and not specific in any way with lots of exceptions.

@langdonfairchild1st805 2 ай бұрын

Think you will find that the first swing was a practice swing. A dummy run.

@FloydCourtnell Ай бұрын

True

@jeffwalker7185 17 күн бұрын

I think there is a bit of a difference between skeletal remains where the head has been stolen to that where the head was removed with an axe.

@17losttrout Ай бұрын

Surely that block was used for more than one execution?

@geirjrstad4134 Ай бұрын

Where’s the opening?

@20PhantoM07 Ай бұрын

What on Earth was that all about

@TheCelticgirl62 2 ай бұрын

My ancestor on my mom's side!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@ericpettersen5874 Ай бұрын

My wife has him as an ancestor on the mom's side.

@TheCelticgirl62 Ай бұрын

@ericpettersen5874 then we are very distant relatives!!

@stephenhardy312 Ай бұрын

4:22 The quote would have come from the Roman poet Horace: "Dulce et decorum pro patria mori".

@Yakkityyak248 2 ай бұрын

I'm descended from the Lovat Frasers. I've had my moments

@AreJayCee Ай бұрын

We're aw Jock Tamsons bairns

@Yakkityyak248 Ай бұрын

@AreJayCee Fa's like us? Gey few and they're a' deid

@richardofsylmar Ай бұрын

Being considered a traitor depends on which side of the fence you are looking for.

@lemming9984 Ай бұрын

Clickbait title.

@kevinw9073 Ай бұрын

WHEW!! That WAS a close shave!

@marvwatkins7029 Ай бұрын

Said the Axe: 'Gimme head!'

@bobgorman9481 Ай бұрын

That block and axe have been displayed in the tower for many years , and I remember being told that they were very probably Victorian fakes , made for the emerging tourist trade in the 1800 s ?

@sirianstarseed1896 Ай бұрын

Will starmer get his own block??? 😂

@ianhunter6418 Ай бұрын

Moronic comment from a moron

@djolivierastro Ай бұрын

7:30 that's some very impressive quasi monobrow !

@scottmatthews172 Ай бұрын

Click bait!

@admiralbenbow5083 Ай бұрын

So there is no evidence that the axe and the block have a connection with Lovat. There is no evidence that the block was used only once, and there is no open coffin. Great start to a documentary.

@helenrushful Ай бұрын

The fact that the block had two cuts in it that in turn supports the claim that it was Simon Fraser's execution..........just wow. That sounds like some undergraduate pipe dream to me. When you consider the centuries that that block has gone through since. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm an academic, and I fully understand the excitement and seduction of anecdotal evidence...... But it's stupid, juvenile, and completely nonacademic.

@kenl9215 Ай бұрын

Interesting history. Could you start your vid with a date? Thx in advance, and forgive me if this has already been brought to your attention.

@hookywookywithmalarkyman704 Ай бұрын

What was "shocking" pile of bones minus scull,

@sheronasims6783 Ай бұрын

How was Lovat a rebel when he supported the rightful monarch?

@ai-d2121 2 ай бұрын

2 marks means 2 times full cut through. Illogic.

@joeblog2672 Ай бұрын

As for the number of marks, two would have been a very possible outcome. Even a third would not be impossible. But however many marks does not automatically indicate the axe passed through the heart of the neck. In fact, most of condemned dispatched by the axe, suffered more than one blow. A first impact may have passed through only part of the neck area and thus made its mark on the block without finishing the job. Throughout history, some condemned individuals have even requested a heavy duty sword be used in place of the axe which was known for its messy inefficiencies.

@JosephJohn-fb9wx Ай бұрын

You can't change sex cosmetically. Wishes and fantasy can't make it so.

@leod-sigefast Ай бұрын

Weird comment. Trump's "truth" social is over there ->

@marvwatkins7029 Ай бұрын

Related to Princess Diana?

@17losttrout Ай бұрын

Poor, ill-considered narration. Clickbait title. Down vote.

@HalySolomon Ай бұрын

80 years old! They could have just locked the old man he didn't had much time any way

@johnnapier8192 Ай бұрын

His ancestor led SS Commando brigade on D day 1944.

@slytlygufy Ай бұрын

His descendant maybe, not his ancestor, as your ancestors live before you, descendants live after you.

@sheronasims6783 Ай бұрын

His ancestors were braver. A Simon Fraser was hung drawn and quartered during Scotlands dark years in early part of Bruce's reign.

@sandyjack1901 Ай бұрын

Would one of his descendants be the Lord Lovat who founded and led the Lovat Scouts, a British Commando Unit If so, they would have been mortal enemies In WW2 if indeed a close relative was leading an SS Commando brigade. Any further information ?

@dr.d5920 Ай бұрын

Not a "victim" but a traitor.

@dennisfraser6896 Ай бұрын

From an English point of view not from a Scottish one.

@dr.d5920 Ай бұрын

@dennisfraser6896 Mmmm. I am of Scottish descent and of 1 of the 4 rebel/loyalist clans. But also a Reformationist through and through. Historical revisionism is not science.

@JakePurches-Base2music Ай бұрын

Cemetery is pronounced how its written, not 'Semi terry'.

@evanherk Ай бұрын

pronounced as it us written, about an English word? hahaha... though cough bough through thorough...

@slytlygufy Ай бұрын

Not in American or Canadian English.

@PaulBlundell-xf6mt Ай бұрын

Sounds like kier starmer , , turncoat 😊. ..

@ianbutler1983 Ай бұрын

CLICKBAIT.

@keithblaenshet5041 Ай бұрын

Thats no way to get ahead.

@egay86292 Ай бұрын

a traitor to you, perhaps, but not to most.

@JohnSmith-dn6fk Ай бұрын

Click bait

@markosterman419 2 ай бұрын

What a waste of time … speculation, the worst form of history.

@Ruairí-n7b Ай бұрын

No opening of the coffin. Clickbait crap

@davidstevenson9052 Ай бұрын

Macfarlane clan was a that calloden ! We were there and did damage google it ! We battled marry queen of Scot’s to !

@TheClann1 Ай бұрын

Freedom

@RHR-221b Ай бұрын

Hello, OWOH. Re timestamp 0' 42": The axe that beheaded Baird's and Hardie's heads after the Scottish Insurrection (8 September 1820, outside Stirling's Tolbooth on Broad Street): Apparently, the axehead has been renewed, alongside its shaft, within Stirling's Albert Halls' 'Museum' section, if not on display, then within its 'basement' ... Stay free, Messrs. Wilson, Baird and Hardie et al. 💚💚💚 Much more Truth available, if you have the searching time. Stay free. R 💀 ⛎ 🎄