I’m been a diesel mechanic for 20 years I’ve never seen that. Bloody brilliant!
@SuperDirk19653 жыл бұрын
I wonder where you went to school learning how to be a mechanic. This is basic stuff in any teaching programme.
@mickcarson85043 жыл бұрын
@@SuperDirk1965 He meant it in a different way. He meant, he hadn't seen one of these types.
@SuperDirk19653 жыл бұрын
@@cptthumper6281 He said he's been a mechanic for twenty years, not since yesterday
@hydraulics3 жыл бұрын
35 years for me. Today is my first time ever seeing an engine with this type of starter. I've seen 6V, 12V, 24V, pup engines and air starters. But never seen a spring starter before. Nothing in the red seal curriculum and justifiably so because for the most part, these don't exist. Maybe military applications... dunno - worked on lots of coast guard engines and LAV's none had this.
@jeremykamel96553 жыл бұрын
@@SuperDirk1965 I attended Bates Technical College for Diesel and Heavy Equipment Repair in Tacoma, WA, USA. I went for 2 years. I passed at the top of my class. Seen plenty of air starters and of course direct and gear reduction electric starters and pony motors. The course covered marine, generator, construction, and road. It covered gasoline, propane, natural gas, and of course diesel. I’ve worked for a Caterpillar dealer, a school district, and on multiple marine cargo termnials. I’ve never seen one of those starters. So maybe it was basic in your program but it wasn’t covered in mine. 🤷♂️ I’m not sure what else to tell you.
@mickcarson85043 жыл бұрын
This is in my opinion a very good idea that should be adapted to 4x4s that do rough country trecking where there are no way to start the engine if the batteries run flat due to using it to run night camp lights. 🙂👍
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90173 жыл бұрын
Yeah it seems like a clever emergency device. Like compression/push start but for when you can't get it going fast enough this would be the bees knees.
@joshuaatkins5197 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what im here for. Researching for that exact purpose of incorporating it to my expedition vehicle. I know a manual transmission works too but moving the rig isnt always an option by yourself in the boonies.
@52templar3 жыл бұрын
I saw and worked on these diesel engines on hd41 bulldozer and many other machinery in nort pole during the 70. Some had air startors. .some spring startors and some électric startors. It all depend of the startor location . Whent the temperatures were minus 30, the spring startor were very efficient.
@arm2791453 жыл бұрын
honestly i want one of these as a back up starter for my truck. just run an extrention for the crank through the inner fender wall like a lowering crank for a spare tire does with the rear bumper, and make the starter lever a hole with a hex key slot. all you'd need would be a tire iron to crank it, and a special rod with a 90 degree turn and a hex key at the end, like an awning pull rod. not hard to come by. then, never worry about starting a truck if the battery goes dead ever again.
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
Same, even the starter can blow, so having this would be bulletproof! :)
@Mb1981293 жыл бұрын
This is used on Marine emergency generators as a secondary means of start in case the Battery fails . Many ships have this type .
@catsupchutney6 ай бұрын
I've seen pneumatic accumulators on old USCG cutters. As I recall it took hours to pump enough pressure to turn over a 12 cylinder engine, but it was better than nothing if your electrical power was out.
@cobymortin10913 жыл бұрын
Love that they used a detroit
@migueldesousasantana61k73 жыл бұрын
that,s a 671 right?
@raygale41983 жыл бұрын
@@migueldesousasantana61k7 A very tired 6-71 yes.
@ianboard35553 жыл бұрын
Bigger version of the starters they had on lawn mowers when I was a kid.
@rickyjohnson47173 жыл бұрын
I remember the hand crank on top of the motor you had to wind, them turn a knot on the side. Usually had to do it multiple times.
@ianboard35553 жыл бұрын
@@rickyjohnson4717 Oh man, I remember those. Endless cranking hoping this time will be the one. We had a rope starter, which seemed more straightforward to me.
@anthonyxuereb7923 жыл бұрын
We had one, Kirby-Lawson was the make if I remember correctly back in the 60s /70s Australia and the motor was a mustard type yellow. You'd start winding with one hand but soon be using both as the spring loaded up. The handle was hinged, unfold to extend to wind up and fold it before starting.
@66oggy4 жыл бұрын
One of the first basics on using a combination spanner ( Wrench in the US )..... Only use the open end when you cannot get the ring end on...... That means try the ring end first, but at least he didn't use mole grips I suppose.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90173 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really matter for minor jobs like this.
@After_Tech_Industries3 жыл бұрын
This thing is about to get algorithm'd
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
Almost there! :)
@johnneytilley41653 жыл бұрын
Nice to have had one of those on cold mornings cranking over the old lister by hand
@konasteph3 жыл бұрын
I love the inertia starters even better..is more of a workout and start a tank engine or an airplane engine with those wow sound effects!
@THET1916 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thorough demonstration.
@Rebecca_The_Dragon3 жыл бұрын
This is some Leonardo Da Vinci level tech here, still being used in modern day, so cool.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90173 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long one of these suckers lasts. I could see using it as a regular starter if it had a gear mechanism to wind the spring slowly as the engine ran until it reached tension. That might make it too complex/expensive compared to a regular electric starter. Not sure if these are only used for massive diesel engines.
@grahamc8877 ай бұрын
Remember these from my days at sea. Trying to start a Lister emergency fire pump most Sunday afternoons. I only wish it had been as easy to start the cold damp Lister as this engine was😀. Great when it worked, I was always grateful that I never had to use the Emergency fire pump for real as I was never confident it was going to start. Still it was a safer way to start the engine than the starting handle in the end of the crankshaft that other small Listers had.
@Greenmachine3053 жыл бұрын
I could have done without 2 minutes of watching you attach it.
@raymondthumper22673 жыл бұрын
Ah, but you would have missed the fact that this engineer uses an adjustable spanner to correctly torque his attachments. Also note that you need to rev up cold engines just after start to keep them healthy.
@cooliobob12743 жыл бұрын
I could have done without you bitching...
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90173 жыл бұрын
Could have done without seeing this idiotic comment.
@teamember3445764 жыл бұрын
May I recommend a ratchet,extension and socket
@TheLightningStalker3 жыл бұрын
They used to make something called a speed wrench.
@MechanicTipss2 жыл бұрын
Its my first time knowledge ..Good information video
@MrAvant1233 жыл бұрын
Great idea not far removed from on some WW2 aircraft that were designed to be started with no ground equipment when (fragile) aviation batteries were flat
@MangaleGurung-e9m Жыл бұрын
Wow 😳😳😲😲 wonderful 👍👍 tech idea 💡💡💡💡💡 brother
@N8-T2 жыл бұрын
That's the coolest thing I've seen in a while
@jeffreysheldrake81263 жыл бұрын
These are ideal for remote travellers that may have no back up or occasional use machinery. Awesome. Quiet a change to the old Inertia starters on Tanks and trucks
@joshuaatkins5197 Жыл бұрын
I'd take an inertia starter if I could find one that would work on my rig. Hell, I'd use a Coffman starter if I could make it work on my truck.
@waynejsampson71623 жыл бұрын
Starters on trucks aren't generally accessible like that one but great idea.
@josecampos24693 жыл бұрын
Es muy bueno x que no necesita electridad, segun lo q estoy viendo. Gracias, muy budn futuro.
@madmax20693 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me, I'm just winding up my 2 stroke.
@Varunkm1106 ай бұрын
Thanks bro it was useful
@trivialinsignific Жыл бұрын
thanks for the demo Sir !
@stevecarter5293 жыл бұрын
Used these many years ago to start Lister HR3`s and 4`s. They were absolutely useless for the job intended. The type I used had a tendency to jam in the primed position. The amount that had to be sent back to the manufacturers for repair. I believe the starter had to be cast into concrete to take the spring force, this may have been untrue and put out there by the starter manufacturer. To bleed the diesel system there was a lever position that allowed the starter to turn and not prime. After many handle rotations sometimes it would work other times not. I hope the technology has got better.
@jackblack92083 жыл бұрын
It's a great idea but what about cold starts or engines that don't fire off that quickly? Or what if you have to replace the fuel filters or injectors and have to spin it over a good bit to get the fuel system primed?
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90173 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing this is an emergency backup or something.
@janvisser22232 жыл бұрын
The engine can be barred over with the starter (the mechanic showed that feature in the video) Cold starts: you may end up with several attempts, but that can be quickly done.
@LeDaart16 ай бұрын
Same type reduction configuration as used in the Lewmar Mamba autopilot.
@moquinlocuaz59743 жыл бұрын
You should make one that reloads the spring inside before you shut it off to save time for next start
@mindeloman3 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but I think long term storage of a loaded spring isn't a good idea. It weakens the spring.
@seancalcote66343 жыл бұрын
A cold day with an ether baby motor and you wont have a burnt out starter. Youd have a bum arm
@ท่อสูบนัําแรงดัน3 ай бұрын
How is it better than starting with an electric system?
@yogeshkumar7402 Жыл бұрын
Today, every engine have need two starters(one battery starter & second spring starter) thanks
@electriccoconut3 жыл бұрын
Didn't show the actual lever position before the engine started. There two actions to make to start the engine which are never shown in detail.
@carlthornton30763 жыл бұрын
Very Good!..
@NhatCoKim2 жыл бұрын
Giá bao nhiêu vậy bạn
@codygardner71854 жыл бұрын
Imagine if all cars started like this cars would be stolen all the time 😆✌
@FireX7_2113 жыл бұрын
Ignition switch has to be on to start it
@deepsleep78223 жыл бұрын
@CG: not likely, a thief isn't going to take the time to crank one of these things up. And if the engine is cold, it could possibly take multiple attempts.
@reverendlawrence75843 жыл бұрын
Some old tanks and trucks had inertia start which I believe was like flywheel stored power
@johnsawyer25163 жыл бұрын
The Spitfire off ww2 had that type of starter, great if it fired on the first try, if not wind the flywheel up again. It took 2 men to get it up to speed
@ДенисПотапов-ф9с3 жыл бұрын
Круто изобрели велосипед!
@stasstas78183 жыл бұрын
Для хорошо настроенного двигателя.
@joshgreen21643 жыл бұрын
Thats genius level.
@billmoran32193 жыл бұрын
What good is it other then a stationary engine? Is that the same principle as to what they used to use on old aircraft.
@Alex4620473 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be much use to me in a -27C frost. The beauty of an electric starter then is you can wind for up to 10 seconds, stop, then begin again. You'd have to rewind this after 2-3 seconds of use, it would be a complete pain in the backside. In summer, it looks like a funky idea.
@arsaeterna42853 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking to myself does this mean we could replace modern batteries with this manual starter? have the electronics run off the alternator while the engine is running? that would be interesting to keep in mind
@nextlevelgamez92433 жыл бұрын
No. Without batteries the alternator will not last.
@joshuaatkins5197 Жыл бұрын
Dont be fooled. I run my jeep all the time without a battery. Bump start because its a manual and drive it fine. Now, you idiots that bought cars/trucks with too much electronics (read-amenities) or auto transmissions (read- lazy or ignorant) deserve the tow bill.😂
@os4753 жыл бұрын
How many seconds does it crank? I wonder about cold start conditions? 🤔
@bonusnudges3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had engines with those things on and you barely get one turn of the engine . If you have to wind it over any your stuffed
@grahamc8877 ай бұрын
Cold damp starts can be a nightmare. In my experience the starter turns the engine less than a full turn if the engine fires first time it is a great system, but when it fails to start you have to start over again. Most small engines I came across with this system had a “favourite” position to start from and if you were lucky some had painted a mark on the flywheel to give the best chance of starting.
@crazyfvck4 жыл бұрын
That is AWESOME! I was going to go with an air starter for my project, but I may have to buy one of your spring starters instead! It may not sound as cool as an air starter, but it would eliminate the need for an air tank, lines, and valves. I can't believe that I've never seen these before :)
@nFlames24 жыл бұрын
I found like 2 or 3 reman air staters I'll be putting them on FB Market Place on 05/14/ 20 in Bryan Tx. I'll price them at $500 or Best Offer if your still looking for one.
@deezelfairy4 жыл бұрын
Is it in a vehicle? Might be embarrassing if you ever stall the engine in traffic 😂
@jerrykinnin79413 жыл бұрын
@@deezelfairy so don't stall the vehicle.
@tomthumb54453 жыл бұрын
Very nice, but what is the application today? electric starter much cheaper and easier to operate. I could see this is a backup.
@_monti1424 жыл бұрын
very cool
@smokerules00214 жыл бұрын
What about cold start
@vmsysprog3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I’ve watched a number of vids regarding this type of starter and I would bet that almost all of them were warm starts.
@Bbonno3 жыл бұрын
Knowing these things exist takes the magic out of other engine starts. Are these excessively expensive or something?
@benchamp67933 жыл бұрын
Половину ролика закручивает три болта -вот это круто!
@adelarsen97762 жыл бұрын
Z.
@Durwasav5 ай бұрын
Starter, Battery, charging system and alternators are getting out.
@punkerpanda1313693 жыл бұрын
This starter only works on an engine like the 671 or simmilar. Detroits that are in good condition are famously easy to start and they are two stroke. Show one of these starters working on a 4 stroke diesel.
@michaelsorrentino74093 жыл бұрын
In s,florida they had hyraulic starters on the pumps for the sugarcane fields.engine were usualy 671 jimmies!!
@raygale41983 жыл бұрын
Yes I've worked with Hydro starters on GM 92 series diesels, they have a gear pump on the engine that charges the reservoir while the engine is running. As well as a hand operated pump to charge the reservoir if it loses pressure. Often used in flammable atmospheres like oil rigs or gas fields.
@ericpham82053 жыл бұрын
this is safe because air compressor make pressure can be cooldown by thermo then no pressure remain on air starter
@summerequinocio91717 ай бұрын
and this device could also be powered by a battery-powered screwdriver!
@АлексейСычков-у3л3 жыл бұрын
Вот бы мне такой стартер на трактор т 25 и на мтз
@Сегуб3 жыл бұрын
Зимой заипешься крутить )))
@ЮрийГанджа-д8е3 жыл бұрын
@@Сегуб на пускач)
@jackscott10364 жыл бұрын
nice detroit
@pussycat64692 жыл бұрын
Ww2 zero had this type of wind up starter
@Elbribon1 Жыл бұрын
A four inline 53 or a 71?
@danahadiana5136 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@ronernst39913 жыл бұрын
You need a spring wrench to run them bolts in.
@RakeshKumar-sbg3 жыл бұрын
I watch it in KZbin videos, I can't imagine what is this, how I get it for my #ROUSTON 6YDX ENGINE
@endprg64773 жыл бұрын
Интересно, что там за конструкция? Пружина?
@farhadtorkaman62823 жыл бұрын
Bravo , Here we go 👌👍🛠🔩🌷
@ngkhuihiang9254 Жыл бұрын
Where we can buy it?
@skidlyane3 жыл бұрын
2х тактный, насос-форсунка.😎🤣💪✌
@user-6x6truck3 жыл бұрын
Родственник нашего Яаз-204
@pipespb3 жыл бұрын
Зачем к концу видео на станине появился аккумулятор?
@agregat-eo8if3 жыл бұрын
Это он со своей машины снял,чтоб не нарезали,пока он мясорубку крутит.
@muhammadnur27593 жыл бұрын
where can you buy such a starter and for how much?
@Константин-л6н5ю6 ай бұрын
Зверь, двигатель двухтактный дизель ЯАЗ 206
@danydavidgamboa3 жыл бұрын
me encanta muy practico
@MitzvosGolem13 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@johnbelwell24613 жыл бұрын
Wondering why they don't use something similar in cars, i always thought of either a mainstream pneumatic or spring starter that would draw minimal battery to prime or one that would pressurise a small air tank as the engine still runs, this way even an almost flat old battery would be able to start the engine and there would be much less waste in money and batteries. This would allow a reliable start-stop function that would not only allow hassle free starting but would also be able to start the car with the engine engaged in manual cars, meaning it could thrust you up to some speed at the green lights at the same time the engine starts when you'll let the clutch and off you go seamlessly!
@yerlanbissembayev55543 жыл бұрын
Где можно купить?
@peanutbutter25973 жыл бұрын
Yep can we say “lawn boy “ ?
@eliezertorres68664 жыл бұрын
Woow very nice
@jamescline69373 жыл бұрын
Damned good thing thats not on a grnerator that needed to start yesterday
@josephgador2383 жыл бұрын
where can i buy this spring starter?
@K9River3 жыл бұрын
I bet using a cordless drill would make short work of that.
@hansknutson23273 жыл бұрын
I want one !
@SOU69003 жыл бұрын
Got one that can start a 20 cylinder 710? 😉
@assassinlexx19933 жыл бұрын
They do . You just have to crank it for two hours to get it ready😆🙈
@Panghal20173 жыл бұрын
@@assassinlexx1993 😂😂😂😂
@hongpham47023 жыл бұрын
Rất quý kĩ thụât cơ bản cho mọi ngừơi.
@wherret_TLT3 жыл бұрын
Отличная идея, но неудачное видео.
@РусланУАЗ643 жыл бұрын
Сколько ориентировочно стоит такой стартер?
@arslanahmad25483 жыл бұрын
How could I own it......
@B81Mack4 жыл бұрын
What's with the sirens? Is this guy in a nuclear power plant during a meltdown??
@martinroldan70733 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@MagnetOnlyMotors3 жыл бұрын
Why not try it on a very cold engine, instead of one that was just turned off.
@raygale41983 жыл бұрын
With a healthy GM it wouldn't matter much, the one in the video was very tired.
@H4rleyBoy3 жыл бұрын
Then off for a kipper tie.
@simonharris18048 ай бұрын
I guess no one answers questions on this page anymore 🤷♂️
@francovance16 ай бұрын
On a proper engine too!!
@АлИва-п8е3 жыл бұрын
кароч, мотайте на 4.00
@samw21953 жыл бұрын
Umm nice rev the nuts off the motor before the oil pressure is up top class fitter !
@tandemwings47333 жыл бұрын
It'll cope. There's oil everywhere in it. Nothing's dry, and it's a 2 stroke, so it's going that hard anyway.
@thomaskarlstrom48153 жыл бұрын
@@tandemwings4733 2 stroke diesels are lubed by pressure, has cam and valves, just like a 4 stroke.
@thomaskarlstrom48153 жыл бұрын
2 strokes sounds like they are revving to the moon and back.
@tandemwings47333 жыл бұрын
@@thomaskarlstrom4815 You're very smart, I can tell. Why do you feel the need to explain something so blatantly obvious?
@thomaskarlstrom48153 жыл бұрын
@@tandemwings4733 From you´r comment i assumed that yuo thougt the lube was in the fuel, like a gasoline twostorke. "There's oil everywhere in it. Nothing's dry" I ment no offense, just trying to be informative.
@cemalyenigocmen72993 жыл бұрын
Motor bozuk çalışıyor enjektörpompaları elden geçirin