You go way outside the mainstream. That's what makes you channel great!
@VisioRacer3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it! Thanks
@cdjhyoung3 жыл бұрын
I hardly agree. Great, great content you don't find anywhere else.
@rifkyfahrana11413 жыл бұрын
Besides that. He always compiling best sounding sounds so we don't have to search them one by one ourself
@llucjofre3 жыл бұрын
+1
@JC-zg4xe3 жыл бұрын
@@rifkyfahrana1141 Even better when you see the exact same truck in person and recognise it from a Visioracer video haha.
@thirdpedalnirvana3 жыл бұрын
"my tractor won't start" "is it out of gas?" "what do you mean, it runs on diesel!" "but the starter motor runs on gas"
@davidsignor79313 жыл бұрын
Had that happen in the field quite a few times with a 720 the tank only held about a quart of gas
@navelriver Жыл бұрын
Sometimes irony can be ironic.
@jaredkennedy65763 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of an inertia starter. It's what they used for the sound effect on the Millennium Falcon when the hyperdrive wouldn't engage, so always carries a bit of suspense for me. Hearing big diesels start is awesome too, like locomotive and power plant engines.
@jamesgeorge48743 жыл бұрын
Thank you pointing that out, it seems glaringly obvious to me now, especially because it sounds like failure, until that double row wasp belches a little smoke, and comes up on two rows of odd cylinders music, making perfect harmony.
@craigmclean82603 жыл бұрын
The sound was also used for the Tasmanian Devil cartoons!
@jamesgeorge48743 жыл бұрын
@@craigmclean8260 damn. You are correct. I don't even have to confirm that, audio files in my brain have already acknowledged this as the truth. Preach Craig McLean. The taz almost sounds like a magneto off, clear flood sound to me, although it could be looped, thank you for opening my eyes.
@SAPD.3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the tractor my grandfather had. Good old vladimirec t-25
@ffjsb3 жыл бұрын
@@craigmclean8260 That's what I was thinking as well.
@clinkerclint3 жыл бұрын
Anyone that's ever heard a really, really big motor start on air knows that this is not a desperate video idea! I really enjoyed it. Many of the off-road trucks in surface mining used air start. As well as most offshore boats. By the way, offshore crew boats would definitely be a video in itself. Some of those big beasts are absolutely amazing.
@Devilacme3 жыл бұрын
Standing next to Wärtsilä 16V46 while it is started up with pressurized air is a great feeling.
@MedusalObligation3 жыл бұрын
A pair of V-12 Supercharged Cummins with Air Start on our 83' Utility Boat in the 70's. What a glorious noise! (And 2 2-56 or 2-53 I don't remember which powered generators. All that in a steel engine room was deafening even with muffs.)
@TommyWylie3 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see the shotgun cartridge starter again!
@skylined55343 жыл бұрын
I think I first saw that featured in the original Flight of the Phoenix as a kid!
@bill36413 жыл бұрын
The Field Marshal tractor , right ?
@TommyWylie3 жыл бұрын
@@bill3641 Yep.
@rogerrendzak80553 ай бұрын
@@skylined5534 EXACTLY, what first came, to my mind. Love that part, in the movie.
@Thoroughly_Wet3 жыл бұрын
Pony motors we're almost REQUIRED on those John Deere up in the north US, especially if you were using it for other duties besides seasonal field work. You either kept it in a heated shed or lit a fire underneath it if you had an electric start and needed to start it in the sub zero temps.
@jamesgeorge48743 жыл бұрын
And pony pre-heated that diesel intake, also.
@RJ1999x3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgeorge4874 preheated the intake and also circulated warm water around the diesel
@jamesgeorge48743 жыл бұрын
@@RJ1999x yup.
@randymagnum1433 жыл бұрын
Funny, Detroit Diesels started easily in nearly any weather. Maybe Deere, Cat, and Ih should have licenced Shephard diesel?
@jamesgeorge48743 жыл бұрын
@@randymagnum143You should start a kinda tired TIB 6-71 in -5 degree weather.
@coinslotsandjoysticks25723 жыл бұрын
I always loved the sound of the old mopar starters in the 70s and older. You could always tell when a mopar was cranking over
@rogerrendzak80553 ай бұрын
Yessirie. That's what we Mopar fans, call the 'crow'😁!!!
@Kristian-us7wu3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a list of coolest kickstart bikes? Or hand crank start cars?
@alexzeyos3 жыл бұрын
Great idea , i agree
@_JosKO_3 жыл бұрын
YESSS PLEASE!!
@crazyyoutubeuser24443 жыл бұрын
Oh yessss
@jamesgeorge48743 жыл бұрын
For sho.
@michaelharrison10933 жыл бұрын
I can still remember years ago watching a guy kickstarting a large displacement Vincent motorcycle which was quite temperamental and kept on kicking back
@Fireball-il7mr3 жыл бұрын
A Mack air starter was our alarm clock, on a construction job, 35 years ago.
@terrancebrown71493 жыл бұрын
The starter noise of the Mack truck is so nice. It reminds me of the bus I used to get on as a child. My bus stop was at the end of the route so I would always catch the driver on their break and she would let me on the bus while her break was going. And I was get on the back of the bus and wait for it to start up. Nice maybe these buses had Mac engines cuz they sound exactly like this
@DeathHead13583 жыл бұрын
Brings back a lot of good memories with my dad. He has a Mack B-85 that was a former fire truck with the 711 Thermodyne in it (it only has the standard electric starter), and a John Deere 70 diesel with the V-4 pony motor.
@Bata.andrei3 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of big engines sputtering to life. And i especially LOVE the sound of inertial starters. The whine of the flywheel struggling against the compression of the engine has something that draws me to it.
@stanw67753 жыл бұрын
That whine of a Mack before it started back in the day was a massive “hold my beer” moment
@hernandovillamarinbuenaven74763 жыл бұрын
So many thanks to YOU VR, for your outstanding work!!; I myself, (Old School MD/ ER / ICU), cannot imagine our world without ICU engines, very specifically, diesel / turbo.diesel ones. (Just gotta love old Detroit 2.stroke ones, as well as newer Cummins ones..). Thank you kindly & many Blessings to you & family!!. 🤗🙏🙏🙏🙏
@powertothesheeple54223 жыл бұрын
You missed the coolest one - A Coffman Combustion Starter - most notable from the dessert place scene in Flight of the Phoenix
@danielsugarman75473 жыл бұрын
I have never personally seen a Coffman starter, but in all the youtube videos that show it, the engine starts with the first cartridge, even the one that's 40 years old. Makes me wonder if the starting sequence in Flight of the Phoenix was more Hollywood than reality. Also, the place that has no water is the desert. Dessert is pie a la mode after dinner.
@patrickporter65365 күн бұрын
@@danielsugarman7547 saved me the trouble.
@paaa26833 жыл бұрын
Visio, your willingness to go further into details that most channels overlook, makes you unique and very interesting. And your interest in the aural aspect of engine-dom makes it very interesting for me personally. The sound engines make gives them life and character, most people don't think of this. Again thank you for what you do.
@jasonnoteboom44893 жыл бұрын
That inertia setup is pretty interesting. I can see why it’s used for movie sound effects.
@dejjal86833 жыл бұрын
I think the German Panther had the same setup, took two guys to get the flywheel spinning.
@codychickadee50953 жыл бұрын
I loved the John Deere v4 pony motor. I was young last time I saw one, not realizing how cool it was. Now I kinda want one.
@upsidedowndog12563 жыл бұрын
I loved this one! Especially the air start Mack. The JD V4 pony starter motor has potential for other uses!
@vintageyamahasquid3 жыл бұрын
I can’t find anyone that has made a motorcycle out of one. Would an interesting bike.
@randymagnum1433 жыл бұрын
They cost more to overhaul than the main engine. They were frail and finicky.
@upsidedowndog12563 жыл бұрын
@@randymagnum143 My favorite kind of machines then. I love to work out "the bugs" on old engines. I do aircraft engines for my day job but love to work on old engines in my free time.
@DFX2KX3 жыл бұрын
That V4 would make for a fun soap-box/go-kart engine, just for laughs.
@GearheadStew3 жыл бұрын
@@randymagnum143 Very true! We had a JD730 waay back and it had the V4 pony motor (though we called it a pup motor?). It grenaded twice on us and cost a small fortune to repair. The second time it went we actually got rid of the tractor. Too high of rpm for the construction of it, if I remember correctly I think it threw a rod both times.
@thegit86983 жыл бұрын
Inertia start is definitely my favourite out of these
@peerieman23 жыл бұрын
I used to think the Mad Max 2 truck just had a funky sound effect for the starter, but to know that was actually the sound it made is soooooo much cooler! 😃
@kingduck3192 Жыл бұрын
That’s why there is a big cloud of dust when it starts all the air flowing through the air starter. It is just like a big air impact wrench motor instead of an electrical starter motor.
@ZIGZAG123453 жыл бұрын
That rorty little John Deere petrol V4 roaring away like an early VTEC to start the big diesel twin-cyl is fun! The spring starter system is something I never saw before, so simple but by the looks of it damned effective since those were some big engines they were attached to. Good for folks building apocalypse vehicles too!!
@undefined4282 ай бұрын
Definitely not a run out of ideas video, i searched for this and was thrilled to have watched it all the way through.
@trustyoldiron54163 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you included some electric inertia starting radials this time. They are some of my favorite, The Pratt and Whitney R-985 in particular.
@pieterbezuidenhout27413 жыл бұрын
In your own way you are TOPS on giving us technical info mostly forgotten bringing back beautiful memories of days gone by. Thank you very much for something appreciated a lot from a South African Boer.
@keenan32013 жыл бұрын
Lekker tjomma! Nice to see another south african here🇿🇦
@DonziGT230 Жыл бұрын
I love the sound of an air starter. I worked at a place where all the trucks had air starters, hearing them never got old.
@SinkkingTurrtle3 жыл бұрын
The starter motors on the 5.3 L lm7 in the chevy silverados from around 2005 have my favorite startups. They're just consistent and remind me of my childhood
@realityhurts86973 жыл бұрын
When super cold ya get the wrap wrup start lol as it torqued that crank over
@aussiebloke6093 жыл бұрын
Love the inertia starter. I remember watching a couple of guys starting a tank with one of those, just cranking up up gradually for about 5 minutes...then pull the pin to engage the flywheel and the huge engine leaps into life. :-)
@aussiebloke6093 жыл бұрын
@@alfabeech I think it was a Russian tank...but there's a lot of them with crank starters, i suspect.
@billyboots37303 жыл бұрын
While the mack air starter still acted like a normal started in that it engaged the flywheel, it would have been interesting to see the airstart used on large marine engines such as wartsillas, that uses compressed air in the cylinders to get the engine to turn over, it sounds pretty cool, like the engine is coughing before it wakes up to get to work :)
@kingduck3192 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think he was confused about how the Mack starter worked. Still cool glad it is in the video but agree hopefully in the next video he can cover large motors with compressed air in the starter.
@danhard84402 жыл бұрын
that Riedel engine was really cool i bet it has a good sounding powerband the one in the clip wasn't tuned correct
@RXYannick3 жыл бұрын
I love the Shvetsov starter Sound. Its just so out of this world.
@clinkerclint3 жыл бұрын
Many of the oldest caterpillar diesels started with a pony motor and also, the John Deere model R used and opposed twin pony starter motor. It had its own unique sound. Wonderful video as always!
@carsondaly15213 жыл бұрын
Definitely a unique sound. I have a D2 cat that has a pony motor. It is even a more unique sound when it starts knocking. I took it apart and found a broken rod cap.
@oscarcasallas41443 жыл бұрын
i love the sound of the John Deere V4, looks very interesting engine by itself
@carsondaly15213 жыл бұрын
A little v4 to start a 6.8l 2 cylinder. Definitely a unique to John Deere setup.
@peterzpictstube3 жыл бұрын
@@carsondaly1521 JD 2cyl is one unique beast the greatest achievement in their 2cyl era. While the were creating their greatest tractor ever the 4020. Which they never looked back after.
@alibokhari43283 жыл бұрын
We need more starter videos. You're doing a stellar job!
@hugobloemers44253 жыл бұрын
Visio racer running out of ideas??? Never!!! I love your passion for engines, keep on going.
@danm24223 жыл бұрын
You know I’m a motor head if I’m watching a video on starter motors! Lmao love your videos bro been watching for a long time
@nightwingzero89053 жыл бұрын
You know When i learned on this very channel that there was a tractor engine that used a shotgun shell to start it I was impressed by that info, cheers from Ecuador :)
@xaenon9849 Жыл бұрын
I used to work on and around marine EMD 16 cylinder 645s that had a pair of air starters each. It was a lot of fun bringing those big mamas up from cold iron, and by the time they were idling, the air starter motors were caked in frost.
@skylined5534 Жыл бұрын
I particularly love the sound of inertia and air starters!
@tocarules3 жыл бұрын
Been here for years and never doubted you'd run out of material. This starter motors was extremely interesting.
@rickreid813 жыл бұрын
This channel just gets better & better. Love the engine start videos. And everything else that comes with it!!! Keep up that excellent content!!!
@waynemanning326211 ай бұрын
I had an inertial starter on the first DHC Beaver I flew up north, the passengers loved the sound of it!
@Tom-Lahaye3 жыл бұрын
The combination of two of the systems in the video also exists. One is a pony engine which charges air cylinders for the startup of the main engine is used on many ships. The other I know is the Ruston & Hornsby 165DS shunter locomotive I worked with, that used a 1 cylinder pony engine to start the 6-inline diesel, the pony engine had to be started with a heavy hand cranked wheel. You had to spin up that wheel and when it spun fast enough you had to engage a dog clutch to start the pony engine, so this is an inertia starter and safer than a direct hand crank start as you have your hand off the crank when you engage the wheel with the engine. When the pony engine was running you could start the main engine with it. Because the main engine also had a manual oil pump to bring oil into the engine before starting and a manual fuel pump to fill up a header tank from which the engine was gravity fed you could start it without having a working battery. The loco had an electric system to run lighting and the instrument panel, and an electric fuel pump and stop valve which took over once the engine was running
@jetstream013 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the most interesting videos you produced! Great job. That Russian inertia starter was definitely my favorite. Very sci Fi!
@Hydrogenblonde3 жыл бұрын
I have just been working on a hard to start engine and your video suggested some alternatives. Fantastic!
@CarputingYT3 жыл бұрын
Now this... Is one I was hoping for!! I don't know if it's weird, but I love starters and the differences about them. Thanks for the awesome video, VisioRacer!
@itsbradmin34233 жыл бұрын
So glad to see another one of these!
@a_alkotob3 жыл бұрын
bringing those details takes your channel to another level bro🖤
@fishrsa904611 күн бұрын
The sound of electric inertia starters is something else man. You rarely see them outside industrial or old school diesel equipment here. I heard one on a 2000s Jeep of all things earlier this year
@rotaryboots3 жыл бұрын
Very impressed you remembered the Jukers jet engine starter. Great content, keep it up.
@Nafeels3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea early German jet engines used two-stroke engines as an APU! Thoroughly researched and musically pleasing to my ears!
@bloodykills75093 жыл бұрын
I loved the "clink clink" sound of NASCAR motors starting up
@themadscientest3 жыл бұрын
This video dug up another v4 layout engine, one of the best sounding layouts!
@mrfixitman75 Жыл бұрын
I love to hear the sound of an old air starter!
@JazzbLu3 жыл бұрын
I doubt you'll run out of ideas. There is a vast variety out there as we are learning from you! Thank you!
@AustinRBa3 жыл бұрын
My dad's JD 70 Diesel has that V4 pony motor. Always loved the sound of that motor, it sounds so furious!
@cnat_sepll3 жыл бұрын
My dad has a campervan, and I have fond memories of him trying to start it and the sound of the starter motor before finally bursting into life
@willymack51963 жыл бұрын
I just found this and I love it. To hear an engine start is just awesome thank you.
@T_Schnydz3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! That's our red Mack! Thank you for including one of our videos in your own! That's cool!
@st.christophorus3 жыл бұрын
thank god im not the only person who appreciate starter motor sound, especially those BMWs R9T/R1200R/R1200GS K50s electric starter motor
@carguybikeguy3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you & your efforts to delve into even the weirdest, out-of-the-mainstream stuff at times. This is great content & needs no apology. Keep it up.
@robertpierce19813 жыл бұрын
Very good sir. My grandfather had a rear engine riding mower that had a wind up spring starter. From early 1970 The only type missing from your engine starting types is the Shotgun shell starter. Insert shell, close up and strike with a hammer.
@glenngray31193 жыл бұрын
A starter system I always found interesting is the gunpowder cartridge start used on some jet engines like the B-57 bomber. Other aircraft used this system for piston engine also I believe.
@christianschneider5973 жыл бұрын
Great video! As others wrote I missed the Coffman Starter, a small turbine power by gunpowder, but it might be difficult to find any engine nowadays. There are different types compressed air starters. In bigger engines (ships) one or more cylinders are switched to compressed air for starting instead of using a starter motor.
@rolanddutton47233 жыл бұрын
This is why I love your channel; cool stuff that other channels don't cover.
@exothermal.sprocket3 жыл бұрын
Potential energy and kinetic energy. Springs, air pressure, electrical, supplemental engines, rotating flywheels. All pretty cool stuff.
@Mikepet3 жыл бұрын
There is something special about starting an engine, when you were able to start ist and the Sound it makes. Those Videos are Just as intetesting as your Other Videos, keep Up the great Work!
@2losersinbasement3 жыл бұрын
I love vids like these because I used to be a heavy duty mechanic for a shop that maintained and restored old farm/construction equipment and I've worked on plenty of equipment with cool types of starters. My favorite is the shot gun shell starter👍
@CrazyWeeMonkey3 жыл бұрын
Propeller-Planes usually have sweet sounding starter motors. My dad's 1975 Piper Cherokee Warrior has a 5.4L Flat-4 engine and it sounds *awesome* whenever he starts it up.
@Diesel2573 жыл бұрын
The SR-71 Blackbird had twin Buick Nailheads on a cart for a starter. 14 liters just to get its jets spinning. I love it.
@csonkaperdido3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel... The more strange and obscure the engines are you talk about, the more I learn! One of the best channels on KZbin! You should start another channel where you try to find examples of these strange vehicles... I click on a visioracer video IMMEDIATELY every time I see a new one!
@Dan40963 жыл бұрын
My old E34 530i V8 had that "spool up" starter sound which was awesome
@crazyguy321003 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the sound of a 2stroke Detroit Diesel starter, very distinctive.
@seanparker963 жыл бұрын
That JD v4 sound so good 👍 sounds like an old sport car from the 60s
@skylined55343 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise you'd done another video about starters. I love the sound of just about all these, especially the Mack air starters and the inertia plane engine starters! I remember rewinding that bit in Mad Max 2 where he was starting the Mack tractor unit over and over as it sounded so good! I believe that system could also use air tyre pressure to start, nifty! Thanks for your great videos, always informative and interesting!
@chefp0l065 Жыл бұрын
You make great videos. Please keep making such interesting content! I live the sound and sights of engines starting.
@jamesengland74613 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! The inertial starter was the most unusual to me.
@paulchristensen28543 жыл бұрын
You wont be running out of material anytime soon. Far too much to go over when it comes to engines and the various systems that the manufacturers cooked up. Great stuff this video. Keep up the good work
@fsj1978117 ай бұрын
I have to agree that I like both the sound of inertia and air starters. Spring starters are pretty cool too but no 'sound' to speak of. Thanks for sharing.
@CS-oo6hs3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. They’re interesting, and eventually there will be no more combustion engines, so we need these sorts of videos to continue their legacy and remind us of some of the most interesting types of engines!
@martinwalker93863 жыл бұрын
The International Harvester WD-9 had one engine that started on gasoline and then when the engine was warm a valve lever closed off the top of the cylinders, thus raising compression, and diesel was then injected.
@paulmaxwell88513 жыл бұрын
My elderly neighbour has one, and he uses it every year to rake hay. I've looked at it quite closely and it's an unbelievably complicated design. I just can't figure out why IH designed something so odd. It's pretty collectible, and no, he won't sell it. I asked.
@martinwalker93863 жыл бұрын
@@paulmaxwell8851 I think part of it was that the farmer could hand crank a gasoline engine while diesel were much harder to crank because of the compression requirements to warm the fuel.
@flyingdutchman47942 жыл бұрын
@@paulmaxwell8851 It looks more complicated than it is - there's an additional valve in each cylinder for compression release, a two-path intake manifold, the mag and plugs for the gasoline side, and a couple of shutoff valves. IH had been building diesel tractors since 1934, and as Martin Walker pointed out, this starting system doesn't require a starter motor or, apart from the magneto/wires/plugs, any electrical system at all (transports of joy!). A pony motor setup has all those parts plus a separate cylinder block and head(s), rotating assembly and valvetrain, &c. My family ran an IHC dealership when I was a kid, and I sold equipment parts. I refer to any motor vehicle electrical system as the "starting and charging system" to this day....
@aidy0124123 жыл бұрын
Not a "desperate " video at all. Your videos are some the best on here. Keep doing what your doing. I love watching your videos. As a petrol head. ALL your videos keep me well entertained. So thank you and keep up the great work. Looking forward to many more.
@butterh23 жыл бұрын
i dont know why, but i absolutely love the starter motor sound of a 12th gen f150. maybe it's nostalgia or something, but it's just so good.
@robinsage19643 жыл бұрын
John Deere had a lot of models that used auxillary gas engines to start the diesel engines. Cool video!!!!!
@1987FX163 жыл бұрын
Love you man been watching your videos for a long time. Thank you for all your time and effort you've put into everything you do and have done.
@cluricaun783 жыл бұрын
another cool and informative VisioRacer episode! No wonder you have such loyal fans :)
@Rundumsfliegen3 жыл бұрын
I loved the spring starter. Just flip a lever and the engine is running. Requires a reliable engine tho. Cause if it doesn't start you'd probably be standing there winding up the spring several times. But all in all the inertia starter is best. Gives the Antonov An 2 its lovely sound.
@papabits57213 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely correct, the start is the best part. Keep up the good work
@tymac33063 жыл бұрын
you NEVER cease to amaze me man,....ALWAYS something cool and new to me, and i am a gear head...i wrote this comment before the ending of the video,....lol,...that was weird,...you do never run out of ideas man.
@38911bytefree3 жыл бұрын
I recall a series of vids of the International Harverster DIESEL dozer with a compression lever that changed the ratio, making the engine able to run on GAS and using just car-like battery to start. It had distributor, sparkplug coil and for the diesel, a mechanical injetion pump. Once it was on temperature, they push the lever to change the compression ratio. The engine running on gas had enough power to move the machine. Not to operate it, just to move it. Pretty clever also, one engine for all.
@carsondaly15213 жыл бұрын
The 4 cylinder gas that was used in the M was able to drive when running off only 1 cylinder.
@crusinscamp3 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of an inertial starter. On diesels, my brother (the truck mechanic) told me the latest pre-heaters to assist starting diesels are large heating coils in the intake manifold. They heat the incoming air charge which makes for a faster, easier start. The only thing is, you NEVER use starting fluid, you'll blow the intake manifold apart.
@littlerougue3 жыл бұрын
The pony motors on the John Deere tractors are super rare. I have started a 820 diesel with one and it is a process for sure.
@hridaypradhan4999 Жыл бұрын
I love the way the Suzuki Jimny Stater Motor sounds.
@zonie19533 жыл бұрын
Just keep making videos Samuel ! You are doing just fine !
@djaydeved3 жыл бұрын
the air starter was also used on a few detroit 2 stroke diesels, a glorious sound to go with a glorious engine no doubt
@chuckg20163 жыл бұрын
Sweet, sweet sounds! All music to the ears.
@Oddman19803 жыл бұрын
Spring starters were also used in the tiny Cox engines, which were as small as .010 cubic inches, but more commonly .049 cubic inches. There was a spring around the shaft with a hook on it, and you'd hook it around the propeller, turn the engine backwards a couple of times, and release.
@Mk-uploads9113 жыл бұрын
super cool information. interesting to know. gasoline to start a diesel. mr. visio you can never run out of pretty cool ideas.
@phil955i3 жыл бұрын
The inertia starters on those aircraft radials is such a great sound
@Moondoggy19413 жыл бұрын
Funny my coworker just spoke about a John Deere lawnmower that had a motor so he could start the real motor, I never heard of that before and here is this video. Hopefully I can check out his tractor soon.