Operation Green - The Nazi Plan to Invade Ireland

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Operation Green - The Nazi Plan to Invade Ireland
Part of Raids and Operations Week on WW2TV
Dr Joseph Quinn, a London-based Irish academic historian, is a specialist on Britain and Ireland during the Second World War. In 2016, he received his PhD from Trinity College Dublin. His thesis research focused on the recruitment of Irish volunteers in the British forces during the Second World War. He taught at University College Dublin during 2017-19, and in 2020 held the post of Second World War Research Associate at the National Archives, Kew. Joseph has since worked as a member of the Imperial War Museum’s Second World War & Holocaust Partnership Programme, and is currently developing a new podcast series for the IWM.
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As part of Raids and Operations, Joseph will guide us through the details of Operation Green and the prognosis for its success, along with an outline of Anglo-Irish wartime cooperation and joint-planning in preparation for a Nazi invasion of the island of Ireland.
Operation Green - The German invasion of Ireland. Throughout the Second World War the independent southern Irish state, now known as the Republic of Ireland, resolutely maintained a stringent policy of neutrality. Irish political and military strategy had oriented on the idea of non-intervention in a major European conflict almost from the moment that the country gained its independence from the United Kingdom in 1922.
Nevertheless, Ireland would become the object of hostile intent on the part of Nazi Germany.
The Abwehr, Germany’s military intelligence service, gathered remarkably detailed information from German civilians who visited the country during the 1930s. After the outbreak of war, efforts to gather further intelligence on Ireland intensified, including Luftwaffe reconnaissance flights which photographed urban centres, military facilities and coastal areas all over the island.
It was from this intelligence that a five-volume invasion plan named Unternehmen Grün or Operation Green was formulated. Conceived by German Army Group B commander, Generalfeldmarschall Fedor von Bock, and drawn up by a German High Command staff officer with the alias ‘Hadel’, Green was intended as a supporting operation for Operation Sealion, the planned invasion of Britain.
However, the plan was dogged with numerous flaws from the start, including poor, incomplete or outdated information. There was also a clear acknowledgement that an invasion of Ireland was impractical due to Germany’s lack of supporting naval resources, the logistical difficulties in landing and sustaining an expeditionary force on the island, plus the fact that the German armed forces lacked experience of amphibious warfare.
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@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation which will help dispel the all too often repeated nonsense about Ireland being on the side of the axis,Refueling uboats,guiding the Luftwaffe, etc. Many thanks Joseph and Paul.
@wilfredwilde9559
@wilfredwilde9559 9 ай бұрын
He’s an “ expert “ on Irish primary school history.Describing the republic as “ Southern Ireland “ he’s been living in England too long .What part of Ireland is Donegal in ?. Why is he doing an American ish accent????. Oh I suppose that’s posh .
@patm8622
@patm8622 9 ай бұрын
@@wilfredwilde9559 what should he describe it as ?
@Richard500
@Richard500 8 ай бұрын
@@wilfredwilde9559 He's talking about the geographic "southern Ireland" north, south, east or west NOT a political Southern Ireland.
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 7 ай бұрын
​@@Richard500There's is no "political southern Ireland" anymore than there is a political southern England. The official name of the country is Ireland.
@richardpealling9706
@richardpealling9706 6 ай бұрын
There is a wonderful quote in the 1946 film, I see a dark stranger. It,s not a question of neutrality but what side you are neutral on. This is a wonderful description of the way neutrality was interpretated by various countries. Compare Franco,s Spain and the United States, prior to Pearl Harbor.
@johnmcgrath6192
@johnmcgrath6192 8 ай бұрын
From USA. My Irish born and raised uncle served in the US Army, Normandy, etc. Although Irish born and raised parents and Irish born aunts and uncles stressed certain things to us (Catholic school kids), he was the most motivated in teaching us those things: that there is no such thing as one true church or eligion, or any one race superior to any other race, and that we had to think for ourselves and we could disagree with what priests had to say. That uncle loved his time in England and even performed in English music halls.
@davidlavigne207
@davidlavigne207 2 жыл бұрын
This was a good way for a Yank, such as me to learn something about Irish history during WWII. I had no idea of the complexities of Irish relations with the English government. I had always thought that given the large number of Irishmen serving in the British Army that Ireland was in full support during the war. To learn that Ireland was neutral was new to me. Seeing how independent minded the Irish are, I can't see Germany having it easy if they ever did succeed in invading the country. I believe that would only have united north and south against them in the end. To my fellow Irish WW2TV audience members, please forgive my ignorance. Great show.
@chrisberkeley6921
@chrisberkeley6921 2 жыл бұрын
Not WW2. The Emergency.
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisberkeley6921 it was known as The Emergency in Ireland.
@tomcarl8021
@tomcarl8021 2 жыл бұрын
David, never call yourself a Yank. When Brits call us that, it is not, in any way, a term of endearment. The term is actually loaded with hostility towards us.
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomcarl8021 I am not a Brit, but I have often heard them to refer to someone as a Yank with the deepest respect.
@tomcarl8021
@tomcarl8021 2 жыл бұрын
@@patm8622 The deepest respect? That's a little overly dramatic, don't you think? Did they remove their hats and bow as well?
@marks_sparks1
@marks_sparks1 2 жыл бұрын
A great presentation by Joseph Quinn. Really laid out the context of Irish neutrality regards its roots. Prevent a war with a bias towards the UK due to practical & geographical reasons. Op Green was really a non-runner for the Germans to land & supply an invasion force while the Royal Navy & RAF were undefeated. The influence of the German legation minister Hempel upon Berlin to make the case for non-intervention can't be overstated. Thankfully Raeder & Dönitz seemed to agree with his recommendations and convinced Hitler that the U-boat campaign was the only way to defeat Britain and put all their efforts in that 1941 onwards. A good thing too as my late father was serving in the reserve (LDF) at the time.
@colleenquigley2761
@colleenquigley2761 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation by Joseph Quinn! He's smart, extremely knowledgeable about his subject, and a pleasure to listen to.
@paulgazeley5246
@paulgazeley5246 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant show, really interesting. I’d love to hear more from Dr Quinn in the future. Thanks.
@fxdci
@fxdci Жыл бұрын
Great show on a subject I knew absolutely nothing about. Thank you Paul & Joseph!!
@davidnemoseck9007
@davidnemoseck9007 2 жыл бұрын
Took serveral days, but finnally finished it. Another interesting topic you have brought up. One of the many reasons I love this chanel, get to see and hear all these untold stories of what was really going on during that time, and not just the high lights. Keep them coming!
@angelaschwenn9595
@angelaschwenn9595 2 жыл бұрын
Now I can say that I know something about Operation Green! Another enlightening show! Thanks gentlemen 👍🏽
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jimwatts5192
@jimwatts5192 Жыл бұрын
Hello folks. Great show looking forward to more from Mr Quinn. Lots to learn here. Thanks.
@scottgrimwood8868
@scottgrimwood8868 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent presentation. I was not aware of this plan. As was said in the presentation, the Irish were more concerned about the Brits invading than the Germans.
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 4 ай бұрын
True especially in 1940 and 41 at an razors edge
@KevinJones-yh2jb
@KevinJones-yh2jb 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent presentation by Josep Quinn, another topic I have never heard about before. Really enjoyed this, thank you both
@jamesholden6661
@jamesholden6661 2 жыл бұрын
Great show, I live in the south-east of Ireland in the planned invasion area and find the idea fascinating.
@daddust
@daddust 2 жыл бұрын
Thx woody! Makes a change from the usual!
@tomduggan51
@tomduggan51 Жыл бұрын
Paul, Thanks for interesting discussion with Dr. Quinn on proposed German invasion of Ireland and good explanation of Irish neutrality policy. Like another contributor I too originally come from South-East Ireland and a possible landing-plan would have delivered German divisions to my front door! Great analysis on your channel of many aspects of WWII.
@bikeman9899
@bikeman9899 9 күн бұрын
Dr Quinn is a pleasure to listen to. Id love to hear a future talk with him on how the WW2 neutrality which served IRL well, has endured to today. Neutrality has achieved an almost religious status amongst the anti war crowd, with zero understanding of the real threats to IRL from Russia and drug cartels.
@shady12319
@shady12319 2 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed that, very interesting stuff and explained quite a lot to me as an Irishman.
@CavalryClub
@CavalryClub 5 ай бұрын
Like a good book, once started I could not put it down. Nice job guys.
@TheVigilant109
@TheVigilant109 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks Joseph. Look forward to hearing more from Joseph
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 2 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@provjaro
@provjaro 2 жыл бұрын
Very smooth presentation, really enjoyable, interesting watch.
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@lau03143
@lau03143 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting show. So many areas that you could have shows on. Irish Neutrality...Chamberlain's offer... Irish Volunteers...
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 Жыл бұрын
You mention ‘pillboxes pointing towards Ireland in Wales’. When I was a kid in the early seventies we used to go on holiday to Talybont just up the coast from Barmouth and sat on the edge of the sand dunes by the beach were two pillboxes from WW2. They were basic concrete ones, a firing slit at the front for a machine gun an opening to the rear. As kids we played in them and when it inevitably rained, as it does in Wales, we used them for shelter. There was also barbed wire strung along the dunes that had been buried by sand but did show in places. I would think there were plenty of other pillboxes further up and down the beach as nearby was RAF Llanbedr. Last time I saw the pillboxes was in the mid eighties when shifting dunes were covering them I presume they are still there.
@alanansara2190
@alanansara2190 2 жыл бұрын
There was simply no way Germany could've successfully sent an invasion fleet around England/Scotland if they couldn't even do so across the English Channel. The 1st attack would've had to be airborne (from Norway???) and even that would've been a complete disaster. The only way for Germany to "invade" Ireland would've been after a successful invasion of England, which was never going to happen. It's quite fun to talk about counter factual/what if's, which is what this episode is. But Napoleon had a better chance of making this work than Hitler, and we saw how that worked out in 1798. This is still fun stuff to talk about. I may be wrong, but to what has been said, there were a huge number of native Irish who defied Irish law to serve in the Commonwealth forces against the Nazi's. Also, the last thing England needed after the fall of France was to send occupation troops to Ireland, which would've been a massive quagmire and draw huge amounts of troops from the defense of England. Which I think leads to Dr. Quinn's conclusion that this was probably never a realistic plan by Germany, but an attempt to trick England into hopefully making a massive mistake (occupation of Ireland), or at least diverting resources, which is never an awful idea.
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 2 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is 20/20
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 7 ай бұрын
There was no need to defy the law for anyone to sign up to fight with the Allied forces. The British government in the Cranborne Report even noted that the Irish government placed no restrictions on volunteers joining the allied forces. Way too may loyalists myths being repeatedly spread about WW2.
@ckolonko86
@ckolonko86 Жыл бұрын
A really interesting talk. From my experience, the focus is always on the South coast of England, but it's not until we consider that the entire coastline of the UK in June 1940 was vulnerable to invasion. Another interesting thing to do would be to consider Operation Green alongside the additional Operation Herbstreise which was a planned feint to strike the East coast with bombardment by Battleships and landings at locations between East Anglia and Scotland.
@rickklumpenhouwer258
@rickklumpenhouwer258 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion. There was a quick reference to neutrality in the war and would suggest that a good question for your neutrality session would be -- why did Germany invade some neutral countries (Belgium and Netherlands, eg) and not others (Sweden and Switzerland) and how did countries like Sweden twist and turn to remain out of the gunsights of the Axis?
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Жыл бұрын
Good question Belgium and netherland had coastlines close to Germany Sweden let German army troops transport by rail through in their invasion of their fellow scandinavians Norway in 1940
@mikejames5743
@mikejames5743 7 ай бұрын
Sweden had lots of boys in the Wiking division that's how.
@georgewnewman3201
@georgewnewman3201 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation, Woody, again. Another spotlight on a forgotten part of WW2. Sorry I had to leave in the middle of the live. Hitler did seem to misread people a lot, didn't he? I wonder how much the presence of 10 group and the RN Irish channel forces may have contributed to German cancellation of Green. Need more on the Irish, says a Scots-Irish fan.
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 2 жыл бұрын
You should really do one on Irish “neutrality” we were (and continue to be) neutral in name only We just don’t actively participate in combat A lot of secret assistance was given to the allies That continues to this day
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Жыл бұрын
So true
@philipevans9443
@philipevans9443 Жыл бұрын
Such as flying the Swastika at half mast in the German embassy at Lisbon on Hitler's death.
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 Жыл бұрын
@@philipevans9443 we are discussing Ireland ?
@user-jk8ur7sj3t
@user-jk8ur7sj3t 11 ай бұрын
Lots of Irish fought on the USA side. Really the Irish were just as suspicious of the Germans as they were the English.
@AlamoOriginal
@AlamoOriginal 11 ай бұрын
​@@philipevans9443 Lisbon? You meant Dublin? 😂😂😂
@mathewkelly9968
@mathewkelly9968 2 жыл бұрын
1:08:22 didnt the British and Irish government have a counter plan already agreed for this ?
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The idea was that the Irish army would fight a delaying action to allow British forces to come south to engage the Germans.
@FlyingDutchGirl1998
@FlyingDutchGirl1998 Жыл бұрын
The 4th army corps in particular had a horrific reputation of inflicting mass civilian casualties as they secured the Polish corridor to Warsaw during the invasion of Poland in 1939. They also perpetrated war crimes against civilians and POWs as they took Minsk and Smolensk on their advance to Moscow in June and July of 1941. So you could only imagine the brutal and horrific fate Irish soldiers and civilians had waiting for them at the hands of this blood-thirsty German unit, it’s kinda eerie to think about. Ireland dodged a bullet, literally.
@MrRugbylane
@MrRugbylane 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the Live Show. Love this channel. One topic that perhaps would be worth talking about in the future is the 1938 Treaty Ports hamdover. I still cant figure out why the British Govt agreed to handover three incredibly strategically important ports on the eve of War.
@mathewkelly9968
@mathewkelly9968 2 жыл бұрын
I know this will come as a shock to an Englishman , but those ports where in Irish sovereign territory and the Irish had had enough of your unequal 'treaties' ............ let's not forget England is a country that fought two wars so it could sell illegal drugs in China .
@MrRugbylane
@MrRugbylane 2 жыл бұрын
@@mathewkelly9968 Assumptions....they can make u look foolish ...
@LeMerch
@LeMerch 2 жыл бұрын
@@mathewkelly9968 Jeez Matthew, relax will ya. This happened before you, I or the guys questioning it were even born so why take all this so personally? I'm Irish myself and I always cringe when people lash out over something that happened almost 100 years ago!
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 2 жыл бұрын
@@mathewkelly9968 don’t think there was actually any requests to hand back the Treaty Ports… given the “Sea Blindness” of the Irish State since 1922
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 Жыл бұрын
It was devalra great diplomatic feat his tactic with the British was to make so many hard demands mostly for the British to depart from northern Ireland knowing full well the British wouldn't agree to that but as moderating sop they satisfied devalra in giving him Ireland the treaty ports in 1938 which basically by the hairbreadth copper fastened their neutrality since wwtwo started a year later with hotheaded Churchill over the deal became prime minister
@ignaciomondragon99
@ignaciomondragon99 Жыл бұрын
Germny was absolutely insane, and they're alwys so far head of us is astonishing and terrifying at the same time
@jonathanmillward1231
@jonathanmillward1231 2 жыл бұрын
Great show 👍🏻
@seanbrady6731
@seanbrady6731 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please to more on Chamberlain's offer.
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk Look forward to hear about hearing about potential allied invasion & talk just on neutrality
@mathewkelly9968
@mathewkelly9968 2 жыл бұрын
56:33 see the Germans where silly , as if the British weren't aware of how badly a pre-emptive occupation of Ireland would of gone . Ignoring the hornets nest Ireland would have become theyre also going to upset the not unsubstantial population of Irish descent in Australia and the US .
@waynedaly100
@waynedaly100 2 жыл бұрын
They did it to Iceland
@mathewkelly9968
@mathewkelly9968 2 жыл бұрын
@@waynedaly100 Iceland is a different case , iceland hadn't been occupied for however many hundreds of years by the English previously . And iceland doesn't have substantial numbers of people of Icelandic descent living in the US and Australia that you're going to upset either .
@Canadian_Skeptical
@Canadian_Skeptical 7 ай бұрын
Interesting subject!
@Richard500
@Richard500 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure I missed it somewhere, but would the Irish Army have put up a fight as the Germans landed or not?
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 8 ай бұрын
Hard to be 100% but we expect so
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 7 ай бұрын
Yes there were detailed plans to tackle any invasionary forces, including the use of a similar type gorilla warfare as had been used to success in the Irish War of Independence against the British.
@johnboylan3591
@johnboylan3591 Ай бұрын
Yes they would have.
@simonbroberg969
@simonbroberg969 2 жыл бұрын
The least talked about is the Irish priest V priest battles in 795 AD at least 30 desecrations and the Cork V Clonfert priest raid where there were no one to say the Mass in Cork )Note Clonfert is where Brendon was from) to Quote Dr A.T. Lucas former National director of Ireland : "The Irish priests could have taught a lot to the vikings about raiding". The Irish Annals is full of these things. That was before the Vikings arrived, and there was no such thing as a place called "England" then, so the Irish "troubles" are a lot older than most think! They never mention the Irish Invading Scotland, and the Siege of Dumbarton 870 AD when Ivar the Boneless was king in Ireland.. There is quite a lot of that in one good book written by Magnus Magnusson (who hosted the BBC show Mastermind) in his book "Vikings" so it's not just "not about Ireland in WWII" Ireland has a very long colourful and rich history (bet you didn't know it was Bjorn who bought the first of the blumen over which he bought in North Africa along with the Irish priest who had converted them.. it was his fault they ended up in the slave market in the first place as the Tribal elder/leader didn't think they fit with the rest of them)
@12kerryman
@12kerryman 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting presentation
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 3 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@user-pt5vy1uu6j
@user-pt5vy1uu6j 6 ай бұрын
Historians are a bit like Doctors, they can have variant opinions about the same event. Ireland was less than 20yrs out of a conflict with the English and Dev was never going to allow the man who sent the Black and Tans into Ireland to commit many atrocities to re occupy Ireland again. Churchill had already mounted an invasion force on the North of Ireland border as a pressure whilst negotiating with Dev. It is a fair assumption, that it was influence from America that stopped Churchill invading Ireland, as they relied on American money and input into the war. It is a known fact that SF the IRA were in talks with the Germans to facilitate their entry into Ireland to stop or fight off Churchill's invasion.
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 6 ай бұрын
Historians are SUPPOSED to have different opinions about the same event, that is historiography in a nutshell
@simonmccullagh278
@simonmccullagh278 5 ай бұрын
I enjoyed that chat
@louisburke8927
@louisburke8927 Жыл бұрын
41:10 pretty grim to hear this. That is a real failure of political leadership. Although not overly surprised with the likes of De Valera.
@michaelmccotter4293
@michaelmccotter4293 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is, the Irish, not having the firepower to defend against either the Germans or the Brit/Americans, they would roll out barrels of Guinness so as to allow the enemy to get snockered and more friendly, then sack them with a burlap sack? Sorry,............Glad my Irish friends kept mostly out of the frey.
@LeMerch
@LeMerch 2 жыл бұрын
They kept mostly in the frey..
@stevekildare4053
@stevekildare4053 2 жыл бұрын
British comments regarding made up u-boat conspiracies incoming 🙄
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly some of them come from the US too.
@stevekildare4053
@stevekildare4053 2 жыл бұрын
@@patm8622 You surprised? My friends convinced a group of them leprechauns existed and all lived in one town outside Clare but no big people were allowed to go there 🙄
@davidlessenberry8736
@davidlessenberry8736 9 ай бұрын
Most Americans of Irish ancestry get extremely mad/upset when they first learn that Eire remained neutral in WW2. Irish Americans were and are extremely patriotic, precisely because of their initial discrimination within Protestant America. However, when both Eire and the US were "neutral," it really neutered some of the Battle of the Atlantic, because US merchant ships would go straight into Cork, Bantry, Galway, etc. Obviously, this helped the UK.
@Neil-yg5gm
@Neil-yg5gm 7 ай бұрын
Nope. With Irish neutrality there was a gap where British could not protect the convoys. That is where the german submarines hunted. Thousands of merchant marine seaman are at the bottom of the Atlantic because of Irish neutrailty. The Irish President signed the German leaders condolence book at the German Embassy in Dublin 2 days after he killed himself
@davidlessenberry8736
@davidlessenberry8736 7 ай бұрын
@@Neil-yg5gm You are correct about the long-term problem, but my understanding is that there was a period in the early war in which US merchantmen were actually getting goods to the UK via Eire. At any rate, not the proudest moment in the history of the Republic, that's certain.
@Neil-yg5gm
@Neil-yg5gm 7 ай бұрын
@@davidlessenberry8736 It is surprising how few people know that Ireland was neutral in WW2. I am not British but if i was i would make sure the whole world knew that Ireland was neutral in WW2. Apparently just before D-Day the Brits put some US troops into Northern Ireland because they were running out of space in England. The Irish thought they were going to be invaded then protested that Irelands neutrality was violated.
@blueocean2510
@blueocean2510 6 ай бұрын
The President in Ireland at time was US , that is why he was allowed to live after the 1916 rising. when others were not. Are people from the US not aware of this.
@blueocean2510
@blueocean2510 6 ай бұрын
​@@Neil-yg5gm The President was US he protested
@paulbabcock2428
@paulbabcock2428 2 жыл бұрын
How the fuck were the Krauts supposed to take Ireland, which was way further than England when they couldn't take England, couldn't win the battle of Britian, and absolutely did not have a navy that could compete against the royal navy.
@waynedaly100
@waynedaly100 2 жыл бұрын
They could have if they beat the Russians quick in 41, 43 or 44 they could have invade the Atlantic Islands
@paulbabcock2428
@paulbabcock2428 2 жыл бұрын
@@DE-zh4jo I suppose. Tho w the Germans losing the Battle of Britain as badly as they were, Idk how many p as r as troopers they could land on Ireland. And w the Germans losing as many paratroopers as they did in Crete, I am pretty doubtful they could have succeeded at anything bigger and more ambitious than their invasion of Crete. Hitler ceased all succeeding airborne operation after Crete due to the high losess. So Ids him trying that w Ireland.
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 2 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is 50/50 Part of plan was to use Ireland to attack Britain
@brianlarkin9160
@brianlarkin9160 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of German U-boats were spotted off Ireland north Atlantic during ww2
@paulbabcock2428
@paulbabcock2428 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianlarkin9160 Ok. Tho Idk how they would have helped out much w any landing or invasion, other than dropping off comando units or sinking allied ships if they got lucky. Idt subs have ever played any significant role in transporting any significant portion of the necessary invasion force. So Ids how their presence near Ireland would help the Germans out too much.
@johnphair333
@johnphair333 6 ай бұрын
Read robert fiskes book ireland in a time of emergency
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 4 ай бұрын
True the best book really on Ireland in wwtwo
@buonafortuna8928
@buonafortuna8928 6 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed that Paul. Eye opening stuff. Though I "thought" that there were strong Irish protests when HawHaw was executed - most likely wrong.
@BingoFrogstrangler
@BingoFrogstrangler 7 ай бұрын
Funny you didn’t mention the IRA bombing campaign in England during WW2.
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 7 ай бұрын
Because it's a separate subject, interesting but has nothing to do with the German plan to attack Ireland
@DavidHConnary
@DavidHConnary 3 ай бұрын
Very few videos on ireland , hitler and its part in WWII , thank you.
@colleenquigley2761
@colleenquigley2761 2 жыл бұрын
Please invite Joe on again
@lisakurkowski9131
@lisakurkowski9131 2 жыл бұрын
Great!
@blueboats7530
@blueboats7530 2 жыл бұрын
Until now I've not had any certain overall judgement of Neville Chamberlain, but now today I am settled. His idea to trade Northern Ireland for Irish Republic alliance against the Axis was completely unhinged from reality. Had it been undertaken it would have enraged the North, then Britain would have had to renege, which then would have enraged the Republic.
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just Chamberlain, Churchill tried the same thing when the US came into the war.
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 2 жыл бұрын
Would have caused another Civil War on the island of Ireland (bearing in mind we have politically only recovered from the previous one in 1922/23 in the last 20 years or so)
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmulligan0 I have the feeling that 'recovery' will be short lived.
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
@Blue Boats, what is your judgement of Chamberlain overall, considering he was very supportive of the re-arming/expansion of the British military, especially the RAF, from the mid 30s onward, while at the same time not miring himself in the minutiae in the same way Churchill did.
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 2 жыл бұрын
Hm... Invading the island of angry militants that just finished winning a guerilla war against Britain and likely was still heavily armed... All while having a pretty crappy navy... Great plan, Jerries. Great plan.
@matthewwhitton5720
@matthewwhitton5720 2 жыл бұрын
I can only suppose that a successful Nazi invasion of Eire would’ve led to a split of major proportions within the IRA, between those who’d have been delighted and satisfied enough to see the 6 counties links to London obliterated, and those who’d have responded viscerally against the presence against yet another foreign occupation.
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 2 жыл бұрын
The IRA was collaborating with the Nazis for the duration of the war That’s part of the reason De Valera interned them
@stallthedigger2599
@stallthedigger2599 Жыл бұрын
"We don't serve King nor Kaiser" is an old Irish saying. The Germans would have been targeted by the IRA same as the British.
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 Жыл бұрын
@@stallthedigger2599 even though the IRA collaborated with the Nazis?? It’s possible but not guaranteed Another one is “England’s difficult is Ireland’s opportunity”
@mikejames5743
@mikejames5743 7 ай бұрын
wrong the dissidents were pro Germany @@stallthedigger2599
@mattbillings3224
@mattbillings3224 Жыл бұрын
If it had happened….Hitlers car would be a tickin laddie.
@garwood.5993
@garwood.5993 Жыл бұрын
What about operation magic carpet.
@WW2TV
@WW2TV Жыл бұрын
I don't see the connection with Ireland?
@MrVorpalsword
@MrVorpalsword 2 жыл бұрын
"we're constantly sending over missiles to the dominions office" ;) good un
@michaelmulligan0
@michaelmulligan0 2 жыл бұрын
The Irish Army didn’t form divisions until around 1941/42
@BrianGarrigan007
@BrianGarrigan007 5 ай бұрын
Irish Lives Matter
@seanohare5488
@seanohare5488 4 ай бұрын
Especially in Ireland
@vincentvanwyk5522
@vincentvanwyk5522 10 ай бұрын
The Irish should have welcomed them in. Now it's bringing in migrants. Good show
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 10 ай бұрын
I don't agree but thanks for the nice comment
@mikejames5743
@mikejames5743 7 ай бұрын
EU and United Nations policy is destroying Ireland culturally. Literally an invasion going on right now.@@WW2TV
@TangledUpInBlue631
@TangledUpInBlue631 4 ай бұрын
An interview from a local pub. That explains it.
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 4 ай бұрын
Explains what?
@crunchytheclown9694
@crunchytheclown9694 2 жыл бұрын
Dont go there Paul, so much malice still.
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 2 жыл бұрын
Too late
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
Malice?
@crunchytheclown9694
@crunchytheclown9694 2 жыл бұрын
@@patm8622 both sides still carry a grudge is all i meant
@patm8622
@patm8622 2 жыл бұрын
@@crunchytheclown9694 as in FF & FG?
@stevekildare4053
@stevekildare4053 2 жыл бұрын
@@patm8622 I think he means Ireland and Britain. Apparently Britain feels like they deserve to have a grudge against us. As always, best ignored.
@robertmalseed7376
@robertmalseed7376 Ай бұрын
Britain also planned to invade Ireland
@WW2TV
@WW2TV Ай бұрын
? Britain DID invade Ireland
@robertmalseed7376
@robertmalseed7376 Ай бұрын
@@WW2TV oh yeah, and we couldn't get rid of them for 800 years. What I should have written was that Britain planned to re-invade
@garyb5998
@garyb5998 10 ай бұрын
Again I'm sorry Vomit......your Irish expert insults and spouts a revisionists Free State option........ 2 Defence Ministers in Ireland...........no 2 in the Republic of Ireland 🇮🇪.........shame on you for abdication of the 6 Occupied ounties ........not Northern Ireland 🤮
@WW2TV
@WW2TV 10 ай бұрын
Okay, thanks for the comment anyway
@domenicozagari2443
@domenicozagari2443 Ай бұрын
Stupidity at its most, why would they invade Ireland if they would not invade England?
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