Opie and Anthony: Jimmy Vs Ant on Trayvon Martin

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@spellboundty
@spellboundty 7 жыл бұрын
Opie at his best.
@jakebulgarian7319
@jakebulgarian7319 2 жыл бұрын
His best show
@funnywhiteroots
@funnywhiteroots 8 жыл бұрын
Kudos on Opie for shutting up.
@shahatboy
@shahatboy 6 жыл бұрын
he was edited out
@RedmayneDeadmayne
@RedmayneDeadmayne 3 жыл бұрын
@@shahatboy no he wasn't, he's there from the beginning. Or have your ears completley tuned him out
@ynots38
@ynots38 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedmayneDeadmayne lol he was edited out...
@WaldoCarmen
@WaldoCarmen 2 жыл бұрын
No. No kudos. He was always horribly incapable of contributing to any slightly meaningful discussion.
@LaChartre
@LaChartre Жыл бұрын
do you jerk off to the amount of likes on this comment
@TheCorpseshredder
@TheCorpseshredder 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ as long as these guys are opening up a dialogue about this shit without starting a riot, I'm happy with it.
@CinesterCharlie
@CinesterCharlie 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah Jimmy, Zimmerman is an irresponsible gun owner because he doesn't flash his gun to everyone he sees.
@MrBackoftheface
@MrBackoftheface 8 жыл бұрын
Trayvon was not "everyone he sees". Its someone hes pursuing in a possible violent situation.
@lo-fiFromChicago
@lo-fiFromChicago 7 жыл бұрын
Only pull it out if you plan on using it.
@WiGgYof09
@WiGgYof09 6 жыл бұрын
Why should anyone need to flash a gun to not get beaten? Its ok for Trayvon to beat a defenseless person? I dont get it. I hope Jimmy is never on jury duty.
@claytonhusted
@claytonhusted 2 жыл бұрын
So here is what I'm getting from Jimmy's argument: George Zimmerman is not a cop.
@cleesely
@cleesely 4 жыл бұрын
Jim "how dumb are you if you have a gun and you're following someone and they wind up on top of you?" nice job illustrating the justification for zimmerman's behaviour in a single sentence jimbo. he's watching guard, approaches, walks away and then is attacked - exactly when a gun becomes necessary
@esotericksoul7156
@esotericksoul7156 3 жыл бұрын
Cops told him to leave him alone...he didn't listen and a child ended up dead.
@dennisarchibeque1435
@dennisarchibeque1435 2 жыл бұрын
Ant,at the end of the show, used to talk about how Opie brought the show down with his negativity and depression. This clip is an example where good ol' "Im so fuckin cool Ant" brought it down!!! "GregShells" wasn't the only "DebbieDowner" on the show Anthony!! Lol
@LambertBowden56
@LambertBowden56 2 жыл бұрын
@@esotericksoul7156 Someone following you doesn't give you the right to assault them when they turn their back and start walking away. Trayvon was 17.... not a toddler. Your old enough at that point to know not to blind side someone who has their back tou you. Zimmerman didn't know how old he was. Trayvons physical dimensions were that of a grown man.
@saltynameredacted9117
@saltynameredacted9117 Жыл бұрын
​@esotericksoul7156 And cops never once said that to him. 'You don't have to do that' from a 911 operator is not anything that would require you to 'leave' anything alone. 911 officials are NOT LEO. They have zero ability to give lawful orders. And after all that, still not a justification for a stupid kid to attack someone.
@MikeHegemen
@MikeHegemen Жыл бұрын
@@esotericksoul7156 no cops told him to leave Martin alone, a 911 operator said “we don’t need you to do that”.
@Fridgemusa
@Fridgemusa 6 жыл бұрын
Treyvon belted the shit out of Zimmerman and Zimmerman defended himself. Don't wanna get shot then don't beat up on people, nuff said!
@Daniel_25
@Daniel_25 11 ай бұрын
Don’t wanna get the shit kicked out you by a 17 year old kid don’t follow them around and harass them till they do.
@eg4515
@eg4515 3 ай бұрын
​@Daniel_25 nah gayvon was still in the wrong and he got what was coming
@Peter-f1z
@Peter-f1z Ай бұрын
@@eg4515if you let somebody follow you around and didn’t confront them then you are the spineless sap that I suspect you are.
@Big_Steve11
@Big_Steve11 5 жыл бұрын
Lol Jimmy basically thinks if you don’t threaten someone with your gun then you shouldn’t have a gun
@BlairBurnz
@BlairBurnz 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best picture of Norton you could've chosen hahaha
@RunDAZ
@RunDAZ 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting listen in 2021.
@BillyBong
@BillyBong 9 жыл бұрын
Jimmy's aregument is that Zimmerman is guilty because he "is a dummy" because he waited till the last second to shoot him. Weirdest illogical argument I ever heard, regardless of what actually happened on that night. And yes Jimmy, some people are brave enough, with or without a gun. Anthony hit it on the head, if you look at Zimmerman as a victim, because of the initial "attack" from Treyvon, then Jimmy is victim blaming, blaming Zimmerman for getting hit by Treyvon.
@Jmatrixxxxxxxx
@Jmatrixxxxxxxx 9 жыл бұрын
Billy Bong Jimmy tends to do that,I question his logic sometimes.
@torgo4ever
@torgo4ever 9 жыл бұрын
+Billy Bong The argument for Zimmerman's guilt is plain and simply that he is guilty. He created the entire situation that led to an INNOCENT UNDERAGE CIVILIAN being shot to death. Zimmerman's testimony did not match the evidence at all.
@BillyBong
@BillyBong 9 жыл бұрын
Bullocks
@BillyBong
@BillyBong 9 жыл бұрын
I can say trevon created it by being there.
@BillyBong
@BillyBong 9 жыл бұрын
Yea. You got all the facts straight, and all the ones i heard are wrong. Sure that's how it goes. Who threw the first punch? Sure it was zimm according to you.
@corporalsanders9981
@corporalsanders9981 2 жыл бұрын
Zimmerman didn't break one law. Trayvon did.
@PLANETQXCIM
@PLANETQXCIM 11 ай бұрын
What law was that being black ?
@corporalsanders9981
@corporalsanders9981 11 ай бұрын
@@PLANETQXCIM assault
@stiguy894
@stiguy894 10 ай бұрын
He murdered someone you fucking retard.
@JP-ht6nm
@JP-ht6nm 5 ай бұрын
@@PLANETQXCIMRace card. Race card. Race card. Forget about race. Then think about the situation.
@Nick-RiffsPit
@Nick-RiffsPit 6 жыл бұрын
Jimmy just makes me CRINGE in this argument. You don't pull gun unless it's your last option, also as a concealed carry holder, you don't escalate a situation.
@mr.smithgnrsmith7808
@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@d.jparer5184
@d.jparer5184 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy talks like a real tough guy its embarrassing
@dudemanbroguy1770
@dudemanbroguy1770 10 жыл бұрын
Jimmy honestly does not understand the responsibility of owning a gun. He thinks you can just pull a gun out and aim at somebody's head to diffuse a situation. He is infuriating.
@BillyBong
@BillyBong 9 жыл бұрын
Roger Pedactor He is usually logical but not on this, and I'm surprised Anthony didn't go on him harder, about the gun safety, and you DO NOT pull a gn until the last second. Who cares if Zimmermann is "dumb?" If that's his only crime, what is Jimmy's point? Weird.
@michaelvigil3436
@michaelvigil3436 7 жыл бұрын
leo sky So Zimmerman was wrong for not threatening him? It's the same thing as brandishing the gun, you can't just run around pulling your gun out like Jimmy was saying and you can't just threaten people on the street by saying "I have a gun" regardless if you actually have a gun or not. The whole problem with this situation is fuckheads like you who 1) don't understand how to properly own and carry a gun and 2) who constantly bring this back to race when race literally has nothing to do with it.
@VashTheDamnFiend
@VashTheDamnFiend 7 жыл бұрын
almost as infuriating as ant saying "he fit the profile!!!"
@bigmoose99
@bigmoose99 Жыл бұрын
@@VashTheDamnFiend and we all know Ant fits the profile of a back alley Tunisian knife fighter.
@VashTheDamnFiend
@VashTheDamnFiend Жыл бұрын
@@bigmoose99 sorry for the rant but yeah I’d have to disagree and say that Ant fits the profile of a 18th century Pimp from Corsica much better
@D-Fens_1632
@D-Fens_1632 6 ай бұрын
Jimmy probably thinks Mike Brown actually had his hands up and was stopped "for no reason." He's so wrong on this in so many ways.
@Legal_Sweetie333
@Legal_Sweetie333 7 ай бұрын
Jimmy made the direct opposite argument for Anthony when Anthony was attacked while Anthony was armed.
@magic3383
@magic3383 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a follow-up to this? I'd like to hear Jimmy admit how wrong he was here.
@antonio8904100
@antonio8904100 7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy is so wrong. You may not agree with the specific laws but they are the laws. Ant explained them perfectly, Jimmy just can't understand them. Ugh...
@jordanwillett8456
@jordanwillett8456 6 жыл бұрын
Zimmerman was told by the cops DON'T FOLLOW DO NOT EDIT YOUR VEHICLE he ignored police officers orders them shot the kid period
@LambertBowden56
@LambertBowden56 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanwillett8456 Following someone is not against the law. Trayvon was shot because Trayvon blindsided him and ASSAULTED him... while Zimmerman was WALKING AWAY.
@akaMouse
@akaMouse 7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy doesnt understand brandishing a weapon is a felony
@gilfiazon2575
@gilfiazon2575 7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy is just flat out wrong here. Anthony argued his points very well and he's completely right. Zimmerman was correct to not brandish his weapon and to follow a suspicious individual when robberies have been occurring. Trey Von initiated the violence with no just cause, Zimmerman did what he had to do to defend himself.
@fucklayne
@fucklayne 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, another racist. Please use a real pic at least.
@stiguy894
@stiguy894 10 ай бұрын
Argued very well? He's on the side of a grown man who killed an unarmed teenager. You have no fucking idea what happened, just say you're racist.
@D-Fens_1632
@D-Fens_1632 6 ай бұрын
It's mind boggling how people see this as racist. The only time race was even an issue in this incident was when Trayvon referred to Zimmerman as a "creepy ass c."
@dylanthomas7680
@dylanthomas7680 3 жыл бұрын
Norton is a very sharp guy, just ignorant on this: brandishing is a crime.
@shinybeast8946
@shinybeast8946 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know what Norton is trying to say here.
@jeririce4928
@jeririce4928 Жыл бұрын
he was trying to further his career. he’s relatively talentless yet quite successful
@SlickArmor
@SlickArmor Жыл бұрын
Sharp as a cue ball.
@ReacherHound
@ReacherHound Жыл бұрын
Jesus Nortons logic is non existent here in this argument. You can't just brandish a weapon in the open dummy. Zimmerman was attacked and defended himself by taking out that crim. NUFF SAID.
@anneominous7172
@anneominous7172 10 ай бұрын
Norton's take here lacks so much thought it's unreal. If you brandish a gun and the guy keeps coming the only next step is to use it - this is specifically why you don't take your gun out unless you feel it's absolutely necessary to either save your life or prevent serious harm. Jimmy is incredibly quick witted but he can be a real idiot sometimes.
@DaRealBenRichards
@DaRealBenRichards Жыл бұрын
Jimmy has no idea. Never pull your gun for show
@pdon9425
@pdon9425 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy's hindsight could be used against Trayvon too. Trayvon shouldn't have punched the guy because you don't know what strangers are capable of. Maybe he could've called the police and said he was being followed by someone. When you assault somebody for any reason you are risking your own life because Zimmerman had the right to defend himself. I agree with Jim when he says Zimmerman could've handled it better but I think Trayvon was a big part of the escalation of violence too. If I was getting the shit kicked out of me I would use a gun too. I don't think Jim understands how impulsive and reactive people can be in these situations. Its human instinct
@plokoon4
@plokoon4 Жыл бұрын
I love Anthony’s little “mhm” while jimmy is opining with zero knowledge and ants listening like jimmy is his 12 year old son arguing with him cuz some kids at school told him something else
@timdavis1988
@timdavis1988 9 жыл бұрын
The game of telephone proves to be the death of modern civilization.
@TeenageMutantNeckTurtle
@TeenageMutantNeckTurtle 9 жыл бұрын
Dee Dee dumb
@aiborland4835
@aiborland4835 8 жыл бұрын
+KnotTop "Dexter, how do you feel?"
@axeman6598
@axeman6598 5 ай бұрын
This might just be the smartest 9 year old comment I have ever read.....Congrats sir.
@-Twotonepony-
@-Twotonepony- 7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy made a more compelling reason as to why HE would be a poor gun owner. He’s arguing with a guy that is an avid gun enthusiast about good gun judgment with evidence clearly coming only from T.V. and Movies. He sounds like he honestly believes that had he been the one in this situation, he would have whipped out his gun at the beginning and wouldn’t be sitting in court explaining why he thought it was appropriate to have pulled a gun on an unarmed kid. NO ONE WANTS TO HAVE TO GUN THEIR GUN!!!!! You almost convince yourself that nothing bad will happen and don’t wanna even acknowledge that you were wrong this time and it’s time to pull out the gun. The actual appropriate time. That being said, I have always and still am split on this thing. It’s just too much in favor of, yet also discounting, for both sides. Everyone picked sides from the moment the individual races were known...... kind of.... Zimmerman wasn’t white, but whatever. He looked like us enough for the MSM.
@-Twotonepony-
@-Twotonepony- 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Bowman I mean, the video covers both narratives. So the reasons I'm split is because I can see the logic of both sides and we can't hear both parties sides of the story. I could see him being attacked and being forced to use the gun at the last given moment, but I could also certainly see him provoking the situation and escalating it. But unless he physically attacked Trayvon, then Trayvon had no reason to attack him because provoking isn't illegal. That's not to say he didn't make it physical first. But that's my whole point, we can't be 100% certain of anything and so we just have to trust that the system came to the correct conclusion. So I'm not trying to seem rude by any means, but how exactly could you specifically clear it up unless you were there? And even if you say you were, this is a KZbin comment section. That wouldn't make me any less split on it. But I'm more than happy to hear a different aspect from anyone if it's something that is factual and not just an emotionally certain feeling.
@BrobiwanKenobi1313
@BrobiwanKenobi1313 3 ай бұрын
So the argument Jimmy is making that he didn’t shoot the dude fast enough? He was supposed to shoot him before he feared for his life?
@ImDarthGamer
@ImDarthGamer Жыл бұрын
Crazy to me that jimmy’s argument is “if you have a gun this shouldn’t have happened”. That directly contradicts his gun control point. If you believe guns can stop things like this from happening, wouldn’t you be opposed to gun bans and limitations??
@james-bv7bm
@james-bv7bm 6 жыл бұрын
Drink every time norton says "again"
@stonefallknives5518
@stonefallknives5518 4 жыл бұрын
Your going to drown people!
@josephcavey5128
@josephcavey5128 3 жыл бұрын
Norton's a spineless Slug
@cazinger
@cazinger 9 жыл бұрын
Jim Norton seems to be arguing that, contrary to the police dispatcher's advice, Zimmerman SHOULD have continued to follow Martin, after being told "We don't need you to do that". That is the exact OPPOSITE of what every other critic of Zimmerman has been saying. Almost in unison, Zimmerman's critics say "He shouldn't have followed Martin". Norton seems to be saying "Once he started following, he should have continued "The Hunt" until he found him". Seems Zimmerman would be facing criticism for virtually every possible action he could have taken.
@WiGgYof09
@WiGgYof09 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly dont think Jimmy understands gun laws, gun safety, or the laws on self defense.
@810wasaninsidejob9
@810wasaninsidejob9 3 жыл бұрын
If only people cared more about morality over legality. If rape became legal would you become a rapist? It's legal after all. Just something to consider. The law is fucking shit sometimes. There is no justice on stolen land.
@sickpuppy6365
@sickpuppy6365 6 жыл бұрын
And I really wanted to hear Opie connect The Trayvon Case to his early days as a model.
@Firetrainer60
@Firetrainer60 9 жыл бұрын
All this time after and all this stuff has come out about Zimmerman. He has beaten and threatened random girlfriends with guns numerous times, he has assaulted a police officer, he had the road rage incident.. it turns out everyone was wrong. Zimmerman is out of control and needs to be put away.
@Firetrainer60
@Firetrainer60 9 жыл бұрын
I agree, I dont think he's racist, I think he's a madman. He is a true sociopath.
@ynots38
@ynots38 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see if Jimmy would argue the same argument in 2021...
@d.jparer5184
@d.jparer5184 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what jimmy thinks about the ahmaud arbery case
@World_Wide_Web_Wyyzrd
@World_Wide_Web_Wyyzrd 3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@dudemanbroguy1770
@dudemanbroguy1770 10 жыл бұрын
Jimmy- " the media is irrelevant in this." Holy fucking shit Jimmy. He is such a boob.
@markvickroy6725
@markvickroy6725 7 жыл бұрын
Roger Pedactor A veritable Dunderhead.
@nicholasesparza2978
@nicholasesparza2978 Жыл бұрын
Jim saying just shoot him in the leg......
@LambertBowden56
@LambertBowden56 2 жыл бұрын
Call Zimmerman stupid, "unqualified", wannabe cop... Once Zimmerman turned his back and started walking away, Trayvon had no right to blind side him and start beating the shit out of him. End of story. Trayvon could have been a white teen and Zimmerman a middle age black man and I would still give you the same answer.
@nathanholland7754
@nathanholland7754 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, legally Zimmerman was innocent but he’s a fucking moron. He put himself in a position to get hurt and because of that a kid got killed
@robertwhitley6233
@robertwhitley6233 5 жыл бұрын
Jimmy is funny but spineless.He serves *THEM* and that is why he kept his job for all this time.
@stiguy894
@stiguy894 10 ай бұрын
Them?
@MrEvanNoyes
@MrEvanNoyes 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy is so far off.
@rphxleonine
@rphxleonine 9 жыл бұрын
tray tray a good boi he tryna git his life togetha u leef him alone
@Hilder78
@Hilder78 7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy is ALWAYS taking the weak ultra liberal stance on these racial issues and it beyond pathetic
@todd020981
@todd020981 7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy likes peckas
@stiguy894
@stiguy894 10 ай бұрын
So much restraint Zimmerman had, so much so he murdered a guy.
@momo2cool4skool
@momo2cool4skool 7 жыл бұрын
this entire argument could've been 10 minutes long they just went around in circles.. this is why I only like when Patrick or Louis is on
@DaveLeperre
@DaveLeperre Жыл бұрын
I would have asked for Kenny’s expertise.
@mmouse18
@mmouse18 Жыл бұрын
what would Ant do if someone was following him? gimme a break..
@damagedgoods3811
@damagedgoods3811 8 жыл бұрын
I would have been nervous if some Hispanic guy was following me. Trayvon probably though he was gonna get robbed, while Zimmerman thought Trayvon was gonna rob something.
@DawnOfTheDead991
@DawnOfTheDead991 8 жыл бұрын
Baby Trayvon had more than enough time to go home, but he doubled back to confront Zimmerman.
@KC-bg1th
@KC-bg1th 7 жыл бұрын
Damaged Goods Trayvon afraid of robbers? That's like a pot calling the kettle........ Oh.
@D-Fens_1632
@D-Fens_1632 6 ай бұрын
But he called him a "creepy ass c," if we believe testimony from the totally fabricated witness, he thought Zimmerman was white.
@jasonkost8772
@jasonkost8772 9 жыл бұрын
Disagree with Ant on this one. I believe any good intentions dude had, ended when he left the car and confronted dude. We don't know what happened when Zimmerman confronted him. For all we know, Zimmerman could have hurled insults, and antagonized him. He should have kept an eye on him and called the police. If Martin actually engaged in beehavior that warranted confrontation, then I wouldn't have a problem. Walking down the streets not worthy of confrontation. Jury was wrong on this one.
@TeenageMutantNeckTurtle
@TeenageMutantNeckTurtle 9 жыл бұрын
Dre-von Dyndu Nafyn
@quintquint5946
@quintquint5946 7 жыл бұрын
You say confront/confrontation 3 times. The neighborhood watch guy WATCHED a suspect that looked exactly like the burglars burgling this neighborhood. The evidence at trial proved Martin confronted Zimmerman by attacking him.
@michaelvigil3436
@michaelvigil3436 7 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't believe anyone, black or not, thinks Zimmerman did something wrong. Was it reckless and dangerous to follow him, absolutely, was it illegal or wrong, absolutely not. Even if he antagonized him I don't see how he did anything wrong, this is a free country, you're allowed to follow, watch and speak to people, you aren't allowed to attack them and if someone does attack you then you have a right to defend yourself.
@puremercury
@puremercury 6 жыл бұрын
Ant's characterization of the timeline was all wrong.
@tonyburke8166
@tonyburke8166 6 жыл бұрын
@@michaelvigil3436 pretty sure there are laws on following people, also you either forgot or just want to ignore the fact that the office told him not to purse. So thats two crimes he committed, 1 is stalking and 2 is disregarding a clear order by a cop, but yet travyvon is the one in the wrong...crazy
@joshmann3905
@joshmann3905 2 жыл бұрын
Also didn't Zimmerman autograph Skittles bags at crazy white rallies?
@PlayNiceFolks
@PlayNiceFolks Жыл бұрын
He might have been 100 percent right during the incident..and then decided to act like a complete ass in everyway afterwards.
@Andy_Sidaris
@Andy_Sidaris Жыл бұрын
@@PlayNiceFolks Might have also been affected by everyone being told he was the worst person in history 24/7 on the news.
@axeman6598
@axeman6598 5 ай бұрын
What are those.....never heard of that.
@poguer6872
@poguer6872 8 жыл бұрын
12:58 Holy shit
@jarnold3415
@jarnold3415 3 жыл бұрын
The irony
@LesterBrunt1983
@LesterBrunt1983 11 жыл бұрын
well that is because what you typed has no bearing on reality whatsoever.
@jacobgalloway8570
@jacobgalloway8570 8 жыл бұрын
You can't pull your gun out unless your I'm need of it.
@creeg84
@creeg84 5 жыл бұрын
Ant makes a great point from 17:50-18:50.
@MarmaladeSally
@MarmaladeSally 2 жыл бұрын
Almost nothing worse than “intellectual Jim”.
@hatelibtards4292
@hatelibtards4292 3 жыл бұрын
The only time Anthony & Jimmy had a disagreement but are great friends today, Opie is hated by everyone!
@michaelramsey176
@michaelramsey176 3 жыл бұрын
They also argued about the black panthers doing voter intimidation in Philly during obamas presidential run.
@Chris-yj2di
@Chris-yj2di 7 жыл бұрын
The worst era of the show right here. Got so tired of hearing Ant ball washing Zimmerman, guilty or not, it go so annoying.
@jakeklutts864
@jakeklutts864 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, I can’t imagine paying to listen to this crap. It’s not funny or insightful in anyway. If I wanted a straight news report I’d listen to NPR, and if I wanted to hear hateful rambling than I’d be listening to Rush Limbaugh. Even disregarding the racial overtones, the animosity and tension is just straight up not fun.
@IDWIE
@IDWIE 6 жыл бұрын
Jimmy’s wrong on this one
@farneyblakeley
@farneyblakeley 10 жыл бұрын
I didn't know neighborhood watch guy is supposed to interrogate people walking down the street. I thought you were supposed to keep your eyes open, report suspicious people to the police, write down plate numbers etc. Anthony seems to have an expanded view of what these people should take it upon themselves to do.
@americangoy5182
@americangoy5182 9 жыл бұрын
+farneyb It's not legal to attack someone for asking you questions. This is a good lesson, you can't go around bashing people in the face when they make you angry. You might end up dead.
@theguywhoisaustralian1465
@theguywhoisaustralian1465 6 жыл бұрын
But there are too many paranoid, jumpy douchebags who carry guns and want to be superheroes who start these neighbourhood watch groups. He wasn't qualified or trained for this sort of thing.
@teamhex
@teamhex 6 жыл бұрын
If your area had multiple break ins that have gone unsolved and you see someone after dark wearing a hoodie and peering through windows...you have the right to question them. You also have the right to defend yourself from someone beating you. He was a giant 17 year old that fought and had some training. He learned the hard way...sucks for him.
@SkinnyGuinea88
@SkinnyGuinea88 6 жыл бұрын
lol...arguments regarding guns from the perspective of people who evidently know nothing about guns
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr 3 жыл бұрын
10:45 …crystal ball into Anthony’s future…
@crochetbyrhiannon
@crochetbyrhiannon 4 жыл бұрын
idk why I expected the comment section to be less comfortably racist
@danilo.castelli
@danilo.castelli 9 ай бұрын
Imagine Patrice in this.
@tz1843
@tz1843 6 жыл бұрын
Jimmy's argument is fragmented and messy . . . .but I know what he means . . .He should of said this: Zimmerman's guilt is that he had a CHOICE to not get involved (aka stalking him) . . . and when he chose to follow him, Zimmerman took on the RESPONSIBILITY of the situation and any outcome of that situation . . . If you have a choice, and decide to get involved in a situation . . . any situation . . .you are now at least . . . partially responsible for any outcome of that situation . . that is where Zimmerman is in the wrong.
@williamdollar
@williamdollar 9 жыл бұрын
"He has gun balls, but not gun savvy." END OF DEBATE. Beautifully put.
@joshmann3905
@joshmann3905 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what side your on, you have to admit Lil Jimmy is one of the few people who could go toe to toe with Ant.
@numerodez6558
@numerodez6558 Жыл бұрын
Not really. They're both trying to respect each other because they are good friends but Jimmy has no ground to stand on, all he does is repeat the same stupid argument over and over again and Anthony is trying to keep calm and not just ruin their friendship.
@AndrewBarsky
@AndrewBarsky 7 жыл бұрын
Anthony made some good points, but ultimately neighborhood watch is tasked with Watching. If Zimmerman had stayed in the car and followed in his car, he couldn't have been ambushed. Inb4 libcuck, I get that you can be a 'responsible gun owner' but being a neighborhood watch vigilante and taking it upon yourself to tail someone who is merely looking suspicious and then making egregious errors in how you handle the situation and allowing it to escalate is blatantly ignorant. The media sucks, they were both wrong in the situation...but a chain of errors led to the death of Trayvon.
@RetroArtisan
@RetroArtisan 8 жыл бұрын
wow I love Jimmy but he was sooooo stuck on he wasn't trained as a cop n he should shown his gun n held onto it. he kept saying if he has a gun be ready wit a hand on it n threaten him but is saying he's wrong for carrying it n being discreet n concealing it until he was being beating . whether u agree wit ant or not that 1 point Jimmy Harped on made noooo sense at all I love him n got the rest of his points but him saying he should of flashed the gun after saying he shouldn't od followed him he's jus jumping from 1 defense 2 another haha wit no real base for the argument jus changing depending on the convo
@Breezy-bv9te
@Breezy-bv9te 6 жыл бұрын
I think that Anthony would change his mind now knowing the trouble Zimmerman got into after the Trayvon issue.. Zimmerman had an issue with his gun with his wife, his wife's father, his girlfriend and a traffic issue where he pulled his gun out for no reason... Zimmereman over-reacted with Trayvon.. The kid was walking thru the neighborhood on his way home and Zimmerman over-reacted and chased the kid AFTER he was told to stand down.. Trayvon was probably scared that some guy was following him and fought back and Zimmerman killled him.. Zimmerman should never had gotten away with what he did!! Trayvon was never accused of breaking into someones house or doing anything wrong other than wearing a hoody on a rainy day!!
@erict.5678
@erict.5678 6 жыл бұрын
you are right interesting to hear this now knowing what we know about how nuts zimmerman was.
@conradsz
@conradsz 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know the case that much and I'm not from the US but isn't it possible that Z got weird (or even "crazy") after what happened to him and Trayvon??? I mean you can't take what happened later and then go "see ... see...?"
@benholt06
@benholt06 Жыл бұрын
Anthony is incapable of objectivity in any scenario involving a black person. Infuriating.
@MrBackoftheface
@MrBackoftheface 8 жыл бұрын
Ant loses the argument at 9:20 when he says "thats the world we live in". Bullshit. Ant never tries to think about things from the black perspective. If Ant was in that situation he would have been just as freaked out as Trayvon.
@mattapplebong
@mattapplebong 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf?! Whatever Jimmy. Anthony is 100% correct!
@bobsacamano4284
@bobsacamano4284 Жыл бұрын
This was a tough case, self defense cases always are trayvon shouldnt of attacked him yes but george shouldve left it up to police. Neighborhood watch is not a licensed position to do anything its in the name "watch" this is the same reason why security guards dont carry guns on them
@jordanwillett8456
@jordanwillett8456 6 жыл бұрын
But Zimmerman does have a record for abuse and he was told not to follow treyvon by the dispatch officer he shoulda followed the orders given to him treyvon had broken no laws he was simply walking home
@dluvv19761
@dluvv19761 4 жыл бұрын
Those weren't orders and said ok when told not to follow
@conradsz
@conradsz 3 жыл бұрын
I believe he broke a law or two when he was pounding Zimmerman
@corporalsanders9981
@corporalsanders9981 2 жыл бұрын
He stopped following when the cops told him to
@nigelwilliams4203
@nigelwilliams4203 Жыл бұрын
​@@corporalsanders9981If that happened, Trayvon would still be alive.
@Caressiive19
@Caressiive19 Жыл бұрын
What makes norton qualified lol
@deansparks6753
@deansparks6753 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t the 911 operator tell Zimmerman not to follow him?
@gregsmith1641
@gregsmith1641 Жыл бұрын
A dispatcher, nltheyre not the authorities
@gregsmith1641
@gregsmith1641 Жыл бұрын
They literally explained in this have you not listened.
@sethrobinson28
@sethrobinson28 3 жыл бұрын
There should be a “Watch, Not Follow” law or something like that
@CloveCoast
@CloveCoast Жыл бұрын
I love Ant but his take on profiling is insanely racist even by right wing standards..
@Darth_Man_X
@Darth_Man_X 6 жыл бұрын
We needed patrice o'neal there to stop ants stupidity
@RockPuncher
@RockPuncher 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, when Ant was assaulted, he reacted better than Zimmerman.
@orokusaki8670
@orokusaki8670 2 жыл бұрын
any is his worst during this. his reaction is the same ones that he was complying against when it was OJ
@brucecampbellforpresident1393
@brucecampbellforpresident1393 4 жыл бұрын
Damn he sounds full of hate even for a racist. But Jim is just wrong as hell and exacerbated tensions with his feelings.
@reillyobrien4372
@reillyobrien4372 6 жыл бұрын
I see what Jimmy is saying in a way, from now on we should learn from this incident and make sure everyone in the neighborhood watch and law enforcement is trained to attempt to defuse the situation in a way that at least gives both parties more time to think
@MrEvanNoyes
@MrEvanNoyes 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds cheap to do for every neighborhood in the country
@amarreddy5616
@amarreddy5616 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Jimmy tried.
@ChaosTheory9
@ChaosTheory9 7 жыл бұрын
This must be the racist talks that Opie was referring to when the suits were getting annoyed with Ant, which led to his termination from Sirius
@jacobsmith1997
@jacobsmith1997 5 жыл бұрын
I love Anthony when he's funny but his racist bs literally ruined the show.
@thekavestation
@thekavestation 7 жыл бұрын
"its not illegal to follow someone" neither is walking around in a hoodie
@thekavestation
@thekavestation 7 жыл бұрын
no shit
@Vurdox
@Vurdox 6 жыл бұрын
No shit he says but misses the point. The point is no one is acting like walking around in a hoodie is illegal, Trayvons fault is when he attacked him not for putting a hoody on that day. Idiot.
@anonymousguy1188
@anonymousguy1188 6 жыл бұрын
Assault is a defendable offense. Stand your ground
@tonyburke8166
@tonyburke8166 6 жыл бұрын
@@Vurdox oh so you know for sure that travyvon starter the fight? really? please give me your source because everyone else says they didnt see the initial altercation, they saw when trayvon was on top of zimmerman. So if u have some damning info that no one else has please share it with the class or shut the fuck up forever. thanks
@admctr373
@admctr373 5 жыл бұрын
fast forward to now jimmy was right
@dluvv19761
@dluvv19761 4 жыл бұрын
No he wasn't
@johnconstantine1130
@johnconstantine1130 Жыл бұрын
Spoiler: Jimmy never got the hollywood career he was virtue signaling for.
@InnerDness
@InnerDness 6 жыл бұрын
I love Anthony except for most of his politics and pretty much all of his views on race relations in the United States. He's just so unwilling to see anything but the views he's already decided upon, and when anyone presents another point he just screams like an insane person over them. I don't know if it's his actual views or the way he presents them, but any time they try and have a serious discussion about politics or race relations I can never finish it
@done1675
@done1675 6 жыл бұрын
Ant's a racist? That's a shock.
@mr.smithgnrsmith7808
@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 5 жыл бұрын
Truth teller
@royalwins2030
@royalwins2030 6 жыл бұрын
Trayvon got what he deserved, another thug off the streets. Yay
@barnyfraggles
@barnyfraggles 10 жыл бұрын
Dumb argument from Jim Norton. He's not a cop but he had a gun BUT he should have had it drawn on the suspect and shouldn't have allowed himself to get jumped on by said suspect. So he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't apparently.
@Willow216p
@Willow216p 8 жыл бұрын
Trayvon was walking in a neighborhood from a store, he was wearing a hoody cause it was raining on and off that day, he wasn't breaking in anyones house nor bothering anyone. Zimmerman started to follow him and Trayvon pounced on him out of self defense as anyone would if they think they are about to get attacked, Zimmerman does not have a look of a friendly neighbor. Trayvon did not garnish any weapons, there was no need for Zimmerman to pull out his gun and shoot. No one can tell me any different.
@damagedgoods3811
@damagedgoods3811 8 жыл бұрын
+Willow216p Shave the head and give him a Sanchez goatee, and he looks like every Mexican henchman in every movie ever. I realize he might not be Mexican. He's hispanic. Same difference.
@CtheDead209-zt8tj
@CtheDead209-zt8tj 8 жыл бұрын
Shit you should be testifying in court you apparently where there seen it all. FYI good kids don't post pictures with wads of cash from illiegal activities and drug talk it is what it is he probably tried to check his nuts and ended up paying with his life
@LeoSkyro
@LeoSkyro 8 жыл бұрын
Funny how I heard Anthony multiple times saying that use of lethal force for self defense is not only justified WHEN ATTACKED, but when you BELIEVE you are in danger. Really funny how he didnt seem to have that belief in this conversation too, ehm...ehm cognitive dissonance ehm...ehm
@Willow216p
@Willow216p 8 жыл бұрын
You have stated your opinion, but, Zimmerman did not know who Trayvon was and I'm sure Trayvon did not know who or what kind of guy was following him. If I was being followed like that I would've been ready to fight myself. If that makes me retarded, then so be it! Zimmerman was told not to pursue, he is not law enforcement and he has gotten himself into trouble for being overly zealous after the this trial was over. Zimmerman started the whole thing so he got his ass kicked a little, at least he is still alive. Can't say that for Trayvon now can we?
@markvickroy6725
@markvickroy6725 7 жыл бұрын
Breezy 1994 nope, no weapons were garnished. Not a gun, knife, or sword was adorned with a nice sprig of parsley, nor a tiny fruit carved in to a flower likeness that night.
@jarnold3415
@jarnold3415 3 жыл бұрын
12:58 oh the irony
@harrydrake4173
@harrydrake4173 2 жыл бұрын
Ant argues in bad faith. If the roles were reversed, he'd say Trayvon was in the wrong for playing cop and following Zimmerman.
@FSinWCR
@FSinWCR 11 жыл бұрын
It's hard to take Anthony's side when you know his mentality on this was that Zimmerman was in the right for this.
@MEEG0L
@MEEG0L Жыл бұрын
Did Norton where that head dress during the entire argument ?
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