HIKMICRO Stellar SQ50 Pro vs Pulsar Thermion 2 XP50 Pro Thermal Weapon Scopes.

[@garyhoward2186]

I installed this optic on a crossman 760 air rifle.I have now shot the riffle around 500 times during target/plinking practice, and the kzbin.infoUgkxc4K63Fd5LglDMObu7-Bgapxp_ef0W8hE scope has done well.With this optic, I have neutralized around 30 pigeons that were invading one of my buildings.For my short range air rifle, I will continue to use this scope, but will be upgrading to a more powerful scope, when I buy a more powerful air rifle, in order to shoot at longer distance.For the money I have spent, this scope has truly been a great buy.

[@breckfreeride]

Thermeon is a bit more grainy but temp difference is significantly better

[@spacolour]

I'd go HIK as it looks like after you've blown your wad on a Pulsar you can afford a barrel!

[@tommyberntsson832]

800m yes, but you hunt and shoot from 10 to 100m. Then no one hits the pulsar with the field of view, which I consider super important.

[@thaireesj41]

Nice one. what are they like at 100yds or less? Thanks

[@roseybut]

Good to see Pulsar no longer have it all their own way. With the new boys on the block the prices are coming down while the specs are going up. Good for the consumer but I don't have £3.5/4.5K to spend on a thermal scope. For the time being I'll carry on spotting with thermal (HIKMICRO Pro) and shooting with NV (Wulk4K). Good comparison video. I'll take the Stellar.

[@crysdan9719]

First need to see how it groups on target and then we talk about prices not how it looks, That’s why we buy one of this not to look at it

[@stephenjones9868]

Hik Micro are smashing it out of the park, Pulsar had the market and now Hik Micro are taking over

[@ImNoBSING]

Tq50 is running 2.5k at the moment at lowest. Yet used sales are still high at 2k+. Probably 640 sensors have demand so they keep the price better (as nothing clearly better is not coming any soon)

[@simon6ppc246]

Shame it wasn't at like the distance we shoot at like say 100 to 200 meters 😉

[@epicsiege8508]

We use them. Excellent.

[@FARLIXdk]

i love your videos. especially those where you put two or more next to each other so that you can really see the difference between them. have you made a video comparing hikmicro TE19 TE25 and TQ50? It was a video I've been looking for for a long time.

[@michaeldekoker6728]

Can you do a front thermal clip-on comparison video, BUT those that will work on a 5-24 x 50 power scope? Budget to mid-range

[@brucemcpherson8832]

I've used both the Pulsar Krypton XG50 and the HIK Micro Thunder TQ50 thermal front add-ons and they don't like scopes with base magnification higher than x4 and the maximum scope magnification that can be used with a thermal front add-on is about x8 Above that the image becomes too pixellated to be much use So, a thermal add-on fitted to a 5-24 power scope will be limited to a usable magnification range of x5 - x8 The HIK Micro costs around £3k and the Pulsar costs around £4k and they are the only thermal front add-ons worth any consideration If you consider £3k budget to mid range then fine, but there's nothing cheaper that's even worth bothering wirh. Frankly, front add-ons are a PITA

[@jamesturner7728]

why does my xp50 pro keep freezing its new

[@antcorke4485]

A couple points, the HikMicro is a Chinese made copy of the Pulsar Thermion, so is bound to be cheaper than its European made counterpart. Also, the Pulsar Thermion uses a Lynred Pico640S sensor that is a NATO accredited Thermal Weapon Sight Qualified : MIL-STD-810 / MIL-STD-833 milspec sensor. Chinese thermals use whatever sensor is available, usually the same as used in security cameras. They all look good when on a tripod though.

[@crysdan9719]

That’s right Chinese copying everything on this wold but it’s not the same quality, I really want to see the group on target not how look and then we talk

[@stephenjones9868]

Funny but the Hik Micro is a better picture and you try and shit can it

[@stephenjones9868]

You call the Pulsar European but it was part of Russia up until 1990-91, I ll take the Chinese quality thanks, 10yr Warranty on the Sensor too

[@longyx321]

Hik looks nice....bit cheaper today also

[@180del]

Always wondered why these spotters and scopes magnify up to these figures as the pixilation is horrendous lol

[@brucemcpherson8832]

He did not explain the difference between optical and digital magnification very well Optical magnification is the result of the physical dimensions of the: a. objective lens focal length b. Dimensions of the thermal sensor - the smaller the sensor the higher the magnification c. Dimensions of the near eye display d. Ocular lens focal length Those values are all fixed for a given thermal scope so the base or optical magnification is a fixed value. Digital magnification is achieved by reducing the number of sensor pixels used to create the image. That effectively makes the sensor smaller and thus increases magnification For example, if the sensor has 640x480 pixels and x2 digital zoom is used then only the central 320x240 pixels will be used to create the image. However the image form those 320x240 pixels will be spread over the whole display making each sensor pixel appear twice as large As digital zoom is increased, the size of the sensor pixels as seen on the display also increases and this apparent enlargement of the sensor pixels is pixellation

[@brucemcpherson8832]

I disagree with your assertion that the Stellar SQ50 and Thermion 2 XP50 pro are the best 2 thermal riflescopes on the market. Both are well beaten by the Senopex S7 and S10 I've had an SQ50 alongside an S10 and there is absolutely no comparison - the S10 wipes the floor with the SQ50 IMHO the Senopex S10 is far and away the best long range thermal riflescope available at the moment - and for some time to come. There are significant magnification advantages when using a 12 micron sensor over a 17 micron sensor with the same number of pixels and the same focal length lens. The next step in thermal sensor development will almost certainly be a pixel size of 10 microns - but that will not confer anything as large a magnification advantage over 12 micron as is achieved by moving from 17 to 12 micron - and the NETD number for 10 micron will at least initialy, be poorer than for 12 and 17 micron sensors Similarly, there is a practical limit to the focal length of lenses that will still fit onto a riflescope and 100mm f1.2 is about as big as it will get and still result in usable thermal scope So, a thermal scope with a 12 micron 640 sensor and a 100mm lens is about as good as it's going to get for some time to come. Fortunately that scope is already here, available and cheaper than the Pulsar Thermion2 XP50 Pro That scope is, of course the Senopex S10

[@christopherwinton6858]

Totally agree I've got the Senopex A5 and that beats them hands down ...and that's at a lower 384x288

[@elkbow]

N-Vision Halo XRF

[@brucemcpherson8832]

@@elkbow That thermal scope is not available in the UK because of ITAR

[@elkbow]

@@brucemcpherson8832 and the Hikmicro and others are not here for some reason.

[@brucemcpherson8832]

@@elkbow The HIKMicro scopes are sold in the USA, but branded AGM. The HIK Stellar SQ50 is sold in the USA as the AGM Adder TS50-640 but, unusually, the price in the UK is significantly lower than in the USA. The SQ50 sells for $3267 in the UK, while the Adder TS50-640 is on the AGM website priced at $4720 AFAIK, there are no Senopex sellers in the USA, but that's a great opportunity for someone in the US because they are great thermal scopes

[@scottkessler186]

‘You won’t get better’, I see you haven’t heard of Trijicon REAP IR 60mm.

[@disco_richy6467]

Optics Warehouse is a UK-based company - we are largely blocked from importing/owning the Trijicon thermals due to ITAR.

[@theNfl_Esq]

Also the NV Halo lrf… but both are 10k range.

[@MrRockstar1968]

If they don't have an LRF then that's a fail for me.

[@brucemcpherson8832]

What did you do before LRFs that work in the dark became available?

[@MrRockstar1968]

@@brucemcpherson8832 I didn't shoot in the dark, simple.

[@brucemcpherson8832]

@@MrRockstar1968 Then why do you need a thermal scope ? - even the cheapest and nastiest glass scope will give you a more detailed image than the best thermal scopes

[@MrRockstar1968]

@@brucemcpherson8832 Are you right in the head? Can you read? I said: "I didn't shoot in the dark", meaning "I did not" but I now do and I now have a night vision scope with a built in LRF and have done for several years now. Though before then "I didn't shoot in the dark". I own a PULSAR DIGISIGHT ULTRA LRF N450 and I'm very pleased with the quality and performance of it. I also don't need your advice as I'm quite capable of making my own decisions, thank you.

[@lukehayward8042]

Pulsar breaks alot yet all the comments saying the other one is cheap and chinese

[@crysdan9719]

nice presentation but don’t forget Chinese stuff are cheap and short life

[@darrenrichardson6803]

Load of crap James?

[@christhomas4260]

its not a thermal weapon scope . the weapon is not thermal. can we just call them rifles not weapons