Optimal Cholesterol Level

Why don’t authorities advocate a sufficient reduction in cholesterol down to safe levels?
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[@VeganWalk]

My LDL is 60, my total cholesterol is 121. I just got my blood work done last week. I'm 44 and have been vegan since 2010. Can't wait to look at my 2010 blood work! It's in the mail! :)

[@leonardodicuckrio8879]

did you get them? what were they?

[@johnnyboy6429]

We must know!

[@kaushalgogula2138]

We want to know!

[@christoffernilsen747]

We need to know!

[@Mooneater57]

Thank you Michael, a Jewel of Information! Sad that on low carb forums people complain with their total cholesterols in the 250-400 range. Sad that everyone around me walks happily with their 150+ cholesterol telling me that mine is too low. It is indeed murder.

[@zukodude487987]

And doctors told me my cholesterol was too low. My health has improved so much from this channel. Even cheat meals like refined sugar snacks got better by adding in fruit before consuming refined carbs.

[@MrSmallANDLoud]

What is your cholesterol?

[@ColdCutz]

@@MrSmallANDLoud I'm not the OP, but I just got my cholesterol results back tonight: Total is 109, and LDL is 68. Meeting my doctor for a physical on Friday, so I can't wait to see what she says.

[@giladkingsley]

@@user-ej7ss8ei2g are you eating plant based?

[@andrewj4426]

What are your TG and your HDL more importantly.

[@thanhngoc3181]

Nig. Nm

[@OpenBorders4isengard]

So the frustration of being given some inconvenient information is worse than dying of clogged arteries. Did I really just hear that?

[@thatallergychefkatie]

it doesn't surprise me. this logic is used all the time by Dr's ''yes vegan diet & exercise will help...BUT WILL the patients do them...no'' . well its because you didn't tell them in the first place idiot.

[@mig6789]

@Dennis That's in the us, here in europe that doesnt happens as much due to public healthcare

[@goku445]

@Rip van Winkle Lol dude, there are still some good people on this planet that are not greedy fcks. Dr Greger is a good example, Esselstyn, Barnard, Klapper, etc.

[@gabitamiravideos]

Lorenzo Van Matterhorn How do you intend to do your own research. Are you running double blind intervention or clinical trials, with control groups? Or are you just suggesting that just watching any KZbin clip that tells you something you want to hear is equally valid?

[@johnnyboy6429]

I eat a complete whole food plant based diet. I do it on the dot. Oatmeal for breakfast, nuts n seeds, 0 oil, 0 meat, etc etc. Im spot on. My total cholesterol is 101. Hdl and ldl are both about 40. ✌ i used to be high in all of these. Blood pressure 140/90 even though i trained cardio. Resting heart rate was near 100. Nows its in the 50s and i do triathlon training.

[@user-oj2is7eu5h]

Spot on. My doctor who's a well meaning, nice guy said my LDL was fine because of my HDL/LDL ratio. I know better than that. I'm willing to do the work to lower it, why not just tell me the truth.

[@jacobusbaker9285]

Im probably an unhealthy eating vegan, just got my blood work in...bit of a shocker. Total 263, LDL 139. I feel like crap, very tired, constantly wanting to sleep. I'm 52, weight is 66 kilo by 180 cm. Gave up smoking 5 years ago, alcohol 2 years ago. Stressful job, too much coffee and fatty foods, no or little exercise. Wakeup call.

[@biophoton7545]

to people from eu: 50 to 70 mg/dl = 1.3 to 1.8 mmol/L

[@elibenson4586]

Great presentation. I was lucky be born with a pcsk9 polymorphism that keeps my LDL around 30 even when living on taquitos in college, but I still prefer the Vegan diet for ethical/ environmental reasons and other health benefits 💪🏻

[@garethbaus5471]

Does this mutation have any negative health consequences?

[@unclejake154]

Excellent information. I appreciate it. Thank you.

[@rachelgilbert8931]

I've been vegan for almost 10 years... I am not a junk food vegan and very rarely eat rubbish fried foods as I don't really like them. I am more of a WFPB vegan but until earlier this year I also used to use oil, vegan cheese (made from coconut oil) and coconut milk products. I had a blood test and found out my cholesterol was really high in January so cut out all of these things. Today I got my results and they are as follows; serum cholesterol has gone from 5.9-4.1 (228-158), HDL 1.5-1.4 (58-54), LDL 3.9-2.4 (150-92), triglycerides 1.08-0.66 (95-58)! Pretty happy with that! I would like to get my LDL below 1.8 (70) if I can. Any suggestions? I eat nothing but whole grains, fruit, veg, legumes and seeds and the occasional raw cacao chocolate bar! Maybe cut out the chocolate? :(

[@rickylahey724]

good results. thanks for doing the conversions (i'm writing this comment as a reference for later lol)

[@thalesnemo2841]

One of you subscript to the disproven cholesterol hypothesis and it works for you then you are probably very carbohydrate tolerant! For me I do the opposite and it works for me . Do not believe all this vegan propaganda read more references! The cholesterol and calorie hypotheses are both dead - it is time to focus on the real culprit: insulin resistance www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/opinion/insight/the-cholesterol-and-calorie-hypotheses-are-both-dead-it-is-time-to-focus-on-the-real-culprit-insulin-resistance/20203046.article The cholesterol corundum and root cause solution( technical talk) **** kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKbNZ6GueKl1kJI

[@PewPewPlasmagun]

Never the chocolate. It must be that you do not ingest enough kale.

[@SimranWasu]

Try working out more?

[@ilikemangos1531]

Thales Nemo this is an expert opinion, literally means nothing

[@Lars-Peter-Lueg]

Great video! Thanks from Germany :-)

[@manmango4126]

The optimum is 50-70 ;-)

[@angelastuff107]

Perfect as always.

[@alpinelove6225]

I would like to add to Dr. Greger's message: If you have the ApoE 4 allele and are a postmenopausal woman, keeping your LDL below 100 can be frustrating even on a 100% plant based diet even without saturated fat sources. Therefore, hormone replacement therapy (as long as you are within the estrogen "window of opportunity" - within 5-10 years of last exposure to estrogen and are without pre-existing cardiovascular disease) may help to decrease LDL as long as you continue to adhere to a 100% plant based diet without saturated fat sources.

[@susanlaprelle9066]

Keep up the good work!

[@christopherhepp1503]

37 yo male, vegan, total cholesterol 103, LDL 52

[@samsungfanboy]

Great video to share with family and friends

[@vascoamaralgrilo]

Thanks!

[@dominiqueblagojevic9447]

My LDL is 65 and I'm 95 percent plant based. My total cholesterol is 130.

[@fifteenbyfive]

They didn't want to frustrate us. Oh how sweet.

[@juno6]

I´m vegan, male, 43 yo... LDL 63, Total cholesterol 117.

[@Mordecai06]

I never had Cholesterol problems, 6 years ago LDL went to 134, with a semi vegan diet it went down to 50.

[@johnbemery7922]

There are also studies that people over the age of 60 with high cholesterol actually live longer and healthier than those with low or average cholesterol levels. Cholesterol performs many functions in the body, and focusing only dropping LDL for CVD will likely result in problems elsewhere, it's all about balance. Nutritional facts are always mushy....

[@NoCommentChick]

1:50 Loren Cordain was an author of this study?

[@MusTaFa-wg8nl]

Yes

[@Chrisisms]

Yes, Cordain differs from most Paleo dieters in that he suggests high protein instead of high fat diets because he was somewhat aware of the dangers of high cholesterol. They are all confused and use different models to try to support their low fiber diets.

[@leonardodicuckrio8879]

Chrisisms Lol the problem is that the "high protein" animal foods that he recommends is also high in cholesterol.

[@colemctarmach4558]

Hi, what's the easiest way to raise hdl?

[@Julottt]

Excercise and healthy whole food plant based fat.

[@Felipe00162]

I have been on a plan-based diet (or healthy vegan diet, no oil, no sugar, little processed food) for 5 years. My cholesterol levels had never been lower than 190 (total) and 120 (LDL). I started taking statin drugs to reach lower levels. I am still on them. I am not fat or obese although I could loose a few pounds (my weight is 135 pounds). PLEASE, LET ME KNOW WHAT I SHOULD DO TO LOWER MY CHOLESTEROL AND STOP TAKING STATIN DRUGS. THANK YOU!

[@shayla3238]

I'm Canadian. My overall cholesterol is 2.9 when it was last checked. Do you if that's in the ideal range?

[@davea4159]

converting that to the same units used in the video would be 112mg/dl. Although the bulk of the video was looking at LDL, but with a total of 112, it's likely that your LDL is in the 50-70 range.

[@leonvanderlaan]

We're looking here at studies from 2004, 2005, 1989, 1998. Where are the studies from like 2017, 2018, 2019?

[@tcatm100]

I 've got a question. What exactly happens to dietary cholesterol in the digestive system ? doesn't it get broken down to HMG-CoA and fatty acids? so why does taking dietary cholesterol being directly correlated with higher cholesterol (HDL and LDL ) levels in blood? Doesn't human body naturally make cholesterol from almost everything (fatty acids, Carbs) ? so if the body at the end makes its cholesterol itself why should we monitor the cholesterol intake ?

[@garethbaus5471]

Dietary cholesterol is found almost exclusively in foods that have relatively large amounts of saturated and trans fats both of which contribute significantly to LDL production, so dietary cholesterol may not be inherently damaging and may simply be corollated with disease (this might also be the case with dietary hemoglobin, there haven't been enough studies with isolated hemoglobin to indicate that it causes disease)

[@emiquevedo4901]

Actually, LDL-C molecules do infiltrate into your blood stream. The smaller ones can easily pass the border, so to speak. Moreover, the small LDL particle size allows it to penetrate the vascular endothelium and deposit into the subendothelial layer. The other answer is correct, saturated fat is mostly what raises serum LDL-C levels, but LDL itself also does on its own. It's a very skilled killer particle.

[@PlantSugar]

I have been eating whole plant foods for 3+ years and I have an abnormally high LDL. I am wondering if the starch solution way to lower the intake of fruit would be beneficial... I really enjoy my fruit so I don't really want to do that. I understand that I have destroyed my body for many years, but wonder if there is something I should be aware about? I don't add any oils in my cooking, but there is a bit of oil in the bread I sometimes buy in the stores. And recently 1% oil in the date and fig mix i also eat when on the run. Thanks any way! Here are my blood results (Danish spelling): 24. februar 2014: Kolesterol;P = 4.6 mmol/l (Max. 5) Kolesterol HDL;P = 0.86 mmol/l (Min. 1) Kolesterol LDL;P = 2.2 mmol/l (Max. 3) Triglycerid;P = 3.5 mmol/l (Max. 2) 22. januar 2015: Kolesterol;P = 5.3 mmol/l (Max. 5) Kolesterol HDL;P = 1.0 mmol/l (Min. 1) Kolesterol LDL;P(fPt) = 2.7 mmol/l (Max. 3) Triglycerid;P(fPt) = 3.6 mmol/l (Max. 2) 22/01/2016: Kolesterol;P = 4.7 mmol/l (Max. 5) Kolesterol LDL;P = 2.9 mmol/l (Max. 3) Kolesterol HDL;P = 1.2 mmol/l (Min. 1) Triglycerid;P = 1.3 mmol/l (Max. 2) 27/10/2016: Kolesterol;P = 5.0 mmol/l (Max. 5) Kolesterol LDL;P = 3.0 mmol/l (Max. 3) Kolesterol HDL;P = 1.1 mmol/l (Min. 1) Triglycerid;P = 1.9 mmol/l (Max. 2)

[@PlantSugar]

Date smoothies, banana smoothies, steamed vegetables, rice, potatoes, pasta. No oil no salt.

[@A_A828]

You might be one of the few unlucky ones who have genetically extremely high cholesterol levels. It might actually be worth it to look into medication in your case. Do you exercise?

[@PlantSugar]

I have been living a quite turbulant life, but yeah I exercise quite a lot. Even long trips on the bike: www.strava.com/activities/1098724707 Maybe the hardest ride of my life.

[@Denis-ou1pt]

it's inflammation, the body just wants to repair itself and it does so with cholesterole. therefore you have high LDL lipoproteins lvls.

[@internetexplorer789]

Plant Sugar do u take a b12 supplement?

[@JennaRyanShow]

Wow

[@MrSmallANDLoud]

My ldl is 55!

[@OurBengals]

What about all the studies that say the ideal cholesterol for the lowest all cause mortality risk is 220? It shows that there is almost 2 fold increase in all cause mortality if the TC is lower around 130.

[@mattzilla331]

I know what study you're talking about. They looked at the cholesterol of ppl who are dying and showed low cholesterol levels in sick ppl. Well ya if you're on your death bed you're not eating much so your cholesterol goes down naturally. For some reason the media got ahold of it and tried to blame the cholesterol. Its really fucked up

[@OurBengals]

@@mattzilla331 I was thinking that maybe it was showing higher mortality in people with lower cholesterol because those people had bad atherosclerosis already and were on meds to lower cholesterol. I remember reading the study that there were people on meds. My cholesterol is low from being WFPB. Got kind of worried when I saw these studies. But I feel and look so good these days that theres no way it could be bad to eat WFPB. I've been vegan for 9 years. Pretty strict WFPB for the last 2. I dont think I'll ever eat different now that I'm used to it a d have a full arsenal of WFPB recipes. I do like to look at all the science from all sides and have tried to do unbiased research over the years. They are really good at hiding the details and shaping these meat industry funded studies to seed doubt.

[@Veganphobic]

The carnivore guy has 482 total cholesterol 103.6 triglycerides 69.9 HDL 392.1 LDL He needs to get a plaque test though I hope he doesn’t get hurt It would be a paradigm shift for a lot of people if cholesterol isn’t the problem I hear them argue it’s the processed sugar I’ve never totally understood the details

[@emiquevedo4901]

It's already a global scientific consensus that the cause of atherosclerosis is hypercholesterolemia, which is exactly what your guy has. Refined sugar is not a healthy food, but it has absolutely nothing to do with serum LDL-C levels. The dude is definitely killing himself.

[@dustind8969]

I've been Vegan for about 8 months now and my LDL is sitting at 45. Since it's lower than 50-70 is that considered 'too low', i'm sure this is a good thing, right?

[@internetexplorer789]

Dustin D89 yes it is

[@kaitlynmyran5266]

I've seen stuff about how too low cholesterol is actually bad and has health risks but idk

[@owenduck]

Why and how does the cholesterol penetrate our artery walls?

[@chriscollins8019]

I just got my blood work back for the first time since I went vegan. My total cholesterol was a "you must be kidding me" 125 and my LDL was a very pleasing 62, both of which make me very happy. However, my HDL was only 39, which is, according to some, too low. Is it? If my total cholesterol and LDL levels are both good, should I be worried about HDL?

[@Julottt]

From new datas , HDL is not as important, the important thing is LDL.

[@chriscollins8019]

@@Julottt That's good news, because my LDL is now up to 87 with total of 178 and HDL of only 72. Short story - eating plants works.

[@Julottt]

@@chriscollins8019 perfect.

[@kiliantreminio]

So is it possible/more likely for cholesterol to be much TOO LOW from a vegan diet? If so how would you bring your levels back to normal (without consuming animal products of course)?

[@annababi2077]

Eat saturated fats from plant sources like coconut oil. It has been shown that the more saturated fats you eat the higher you cholesterol level. Dr Greger has a video about this. I don't know if it helpful to you six months after posting the question but oh well :)

[@internetexplorer789]

Nana Babi id like to point out that dr greger doesn’t recommend ingesting coconut oil. It is not good for LDL levels. Stick to nuts and seeds for good hdl

[@ramikla_146]

This would be disputed by the low carb community

[@ivark8201]

I have been vegan (or 99.5-9% plant based) over 2 years now, and my total cholesterol is 150 mg/dl. HDL is 46 and LDL 92,8. That's supposedly "optimal", but not according to this.

[@Julottt]

genetic maybe or others unknown factors, i cant go below 80 LDL neither and i know other vegan in the same case, thats fine.

[@giladkingsley]

10 months vegan at 18 y/o, and my LDL Cholesterol is at 53 mg/dL

[@NLR759]

Isn't it more costly to overwhelm the medical system with a high number of people getting heart-attacks and needing by-pass surgery? Seems short sighted to be cheap on trying to get the public cholesterol level down to a truly safe level, and instead pay for the cost of treating major cardiac events later in life.

[@cm1906]

I would like to have the topic of menopause and worsening cholesterol profile addressed / explained as well, please. We are 50% of the population. 😊 It is established science that estrogen loss in women causes LDL-C to rise, HDL-C to fall, among many other negative effects in the body. This happens independently of a woman’s dietary habits. How should women and doctors understand this with regard to our CHD risk? The number one cause of death in postmenopausal women is heart disease.

[@Veganphobic]

After 7 years of vegan diet My blood test is 178 total 65 Triglycerides 60 HDL LDL 105 My b12 is 30 points below the minimum

[@leonardodicuckrio8879]

Your LDL is still kinda high pal. Try to get it below 70.

[@internetexplorer789]

Do u take a b12 supplement

[@goku445]

Did he change his name or did you guys genuinely answer his question?

[@lneasy2]

It seems evident to me that "peer reviewed" does not mean accurate or true.

[@Chris-MusicTheoryAndFretboard]

Science isn't perfect but what's the alternative? Would you rather trust the local gypsy? Science is the best way to figuring out what's accurate and true.

[@thalesnemo2841]

Most dietary studies are associational which is bad science ! If one reads the abstract at 2:10 is groups humans with other mammals! Really !!

[@leamiscool]

is cholesterol an effect or a cause?

[@betsycosmos7786]

I am part of the (mostly) vegan frustrated public! I have had a high LDL for years (recently it was 138). My HDL is also pretty high (52) but my total Cholesterol = 218. I refuse to take medication and my doctor thinks it may just be genetic. However, I really do try to eat a mostly whole-foods plant-based diet but my numbers are consistently too high. Not sure why???

[@betsycosmos7786]

Tom, thanks so much for your thoughtful advice! I had no clue coffee could be involved -- don't gag but I drink instant. I'm definitely going to look at the links you provided and am grateful for your response!

[@betsycosmos7786]

Thanks again for all the great response. Love the Esselstyns, "dabigisland1"...will look into that. And you're right, Tom, I'm not overweight (thank you, God!) but I now have many good ideas to follow up on to see about wrestling this cholesterol under control. :-)

[@betsycosmos7786]

Again, thanks Tom! I'll look into them, too.

[@zukodude487987]

Betsy Cosmos No, thank you science!

[@dabigisland1]

Betsy Cosmos I was over 200 eating dairy and eggs but no meat, now 99% Vegan and 168 with 110 LDL and 47 HDL. I should exercise more and take the test again. Maybe you should exercise also and report back here what it did for your numbers for the benefit of others.

[@Akurima]

LDL 55 here ✌️

[@robrae14]

I eat vegan Whole Foods....can’t solve my problem of inherited Lp(a) which PREVENTS me from having optimal lipid numbers no matter how hard I try. So I have no option.

[@vlatkopopovski2685]

THE FIRST BIOREGULATION Plasma triglycerides below 0.6 mmol/L (50 mg/dl). Vitamin D (calcifediol): 140-240 ng/mL (350-600 nmol/L) or more subject to need, with precautions and according to protocol. Parathyroid hormone (PTH intact) 5-25 pg/mL (0.5-2.5 pmol/L), if needed around the lower reference range. Love for more oxytocin hormone.

[@vlatkopopovski2685]

It is very simple, low level of plasma triglycerides means low number of LDL-P, apoB100 and apoB lipoproteins.

[@vlatkopopovski2685]

THE FIRST BIOREGULATION Plasma triglycerides below 0.6 mmol/L (50 mg/dl). Vitamin D (calcifediol): 140-240 ng/mL (350-600 nmol/L) or more subject to need, with precautions and according to protocol. Parathyroid hormone (PTH intact) 5-25 pg/mL (0.5-2.5 pmol/L), if needed around the lower reference range. Love for more oxytocin hormone.

[@peterfaber9316]

The problem I have with this logic is that LDL's main purpose is the transportation of triglycerides. The cholesterol in LDL is not harmful if it stays in the LDL and the LDL gets back to the liver once it has delivered it's triglyceride content. The LDL level of 70 is the level you get when you're eating just enough fat so you don't get an essential fatty acid deficiency. I get that. What I also get is that when there is more fat in your diet, LDL levels will be higher, simply because more triglycerides need to be delivered to the body. Then there is the fact that the amount of cholesterol used by the body doesn't depend on how much is available in the blood. Cholesterol ends up where it is needed in the quantities that are required, regardless of how many LDL particles pass by. We also know that cholesterol is a basic building block for all cells in the body. It goes where it is needed. Where ever there is damage, more cholesterol is needed to repair damage. So I have a question: Why do you believe your low cholesterol levels are responsible for your healthy heart and not the healthy wholefood plantbased part of your diet? There are many vegans with high LDL. They eat low fat, but they still have high LDL. If fat would be the cause of high LDL, vegans on a low fat diet couldn't have high cholesterol levels. But many do. So why is that? The simple answer is: Sugar! You can eat vegan while still eating loads of processed carbs and because of that, eating many times a day. That causes insulin resistance which causes prolonged elevated insulin levels which causes inflamation and damage to arterie walls. And that damage increases the need for cholesterol, which your liver is more than happy to make and release into your blood. So clearly, just eating low fat has nothing to do with your cholesterol levels. One of the benefits of a whole food plant based diet is that damage and inflamation is reduced to very low levels. So again, I ask: why do you believe that it's the low fat in your diet that reduces your LDL levels and not the inflamation and damage preventing whole food plant based part of your diet? If you want to respond with that the wfpb part is a contributing factor to the low LDL levels, then please don't because I clearly showed that low fat makes no difference to LDL levels. It's also what the science shows: cholesterol goes where it is needed. It doesn't get dumped in your arterie walls for no reason.

[@happycamper4416]

Just google all cause mortality and cholesterol level. I have found studies done in Korea, Israel, Brazil, China all agreeing that total cholesterol level of roughly 180 to 240 has lowest mortality rate. The above conclusion is also confirmed by W.H.O. I am searching the web for a single study that contradicts the above conclusion. Please post the link if you are aware of any. Thanks

[@MoreChannelNoise]

50 to 70mg means nothing to me being european. I wish they would all get together and standardize these things!

[@vegforce4518]

100 mg/dL = 2.6 mmol/L ~ UK test results tend to be given in mmol/L

[@MoreChannelNoise]

thanks, when it comes to health i wish they would give results in a standard international way.

[@Mylada]

+MoreChannelNoise First USA would have to stop using buckets and rocks to measure volume and weight; or whatever heck they are using now..

[@MoreChannelNoise]

LOL, the uk was like that until the EU forced them to behave, but now they are thinking of leaving the EU, not sure if there is a connection, lol

[@A_A828]

50 to 70 mg/dl = 1.3 to 1.8 mmol/L

[@daniellugo4272]

why do i need cholestorel

[@rosiejonasson6752]

My dr told me I will be just fine, I just have bad luck and don’t worry. I have Very bad cholesterol and I feel like there must be something that I am doing wrong that I am unaware of. I eat a plant based diet already. What are other things that cause high cholesterol besides food and exercise? I need help.

[@goku445]

Eat a whole food plant based diet and walk a lot. Take B12, D and EPA/DHA. That's it

[@grewalparminder2003]

Sugar,stress, sleep deprivation, a few. Stay away from junk foods. If u r on a low fat diet your cholesterol could be oxidised which is much worse. Research Ronald Krouss, director at the Athlorescosis institute. He's very good. Good luck.

[@Veganphobic]

2:15 populations free of heart attack epidemic? Which populations are these considering there’s no vegan population anywhere in the world

[@dou40006]

Yes there is , Hindous people are vegan probably 500 millions people, also in China many people only eat plant

[@jeremylavine]

Look at the paper he's referring to: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109704007168 The hunter-gatherers referenced there are the Hadza, the Inuit, the !Kung, the Pygmy, and the San. None of these were at all vegan and of course the Inuit were essentially the opposite of vegan - their diet all meat, blubber, and skin. The two papers referred to there supporting the claim that these hunter-gatherers had low cholesterol and no.atherosclerosis were authored by Cordain, promoter of the Paleo diet, and these papers explicitly argue against the modern notion that eating meat brings heart disease. This undercuts Dr. Greger's message here, and the fact that he doesn't mention it in this video shows that he's not being entirely honest. Of course all of his videos are thinly-veiled vegan propaganda.

[@jeremylavine]

@@dou40006 The Hindus aren't vegan. They just don't eat beef. Some Hindus in northern India are vegetarian, but they have quite bad health. The Chinese aren't and weren't vegan either. The traditional diet includes pork and chicken.

[@conginh2489]

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[@spiderjump]

Eat oatmeal and wholegrain rice and lentils as staples. Eat meat and eggs sparingly.