Optimal GunZ Keybind Configuration

[@GSCnocturne]

It's great to see someone putting out GunZ content! I hope that we see more new players.

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

I appreciate the encouragement. I know that most players these days are way beyond the stuff in these videos, but anything that makes it easier for new new players is needed. I have seen a lot of new players on the server I play on recently, so it is nice.

[@flip_shifty]

im new

[@Jeviok]

Funny that we need a tutorial just to know how to place your hands on the keyboard. Key bindings is an overlooked aspect of the learning curve, thanks for bringing it to peoples' attention. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@filippkhan3935]

You can get pretty good with the default keybindings, but learning it that way will kinda... lock you in.

[@Yuieatspaint]

@@filippkhan3935 yeah, i play default keybindings but i suck lol

[@amers8264]

Hey man! Great video, I changed my keybinds after 13 years of playing with them because of you. Thanks! This makes way more sense than the default options.

[@dispuTe04]

I use 1/Q as my sword, 2/E as gun one, R for reload, and F for third gun

[@user-bt3ow3if2k]

bc of ur button setup maybe it would make sense to put shift as reload and block as right click since your pinkie finger is always gonna be on shift

[@johndeer3908]

yo thanks man sent a like and suscribe, just got back into this after 12 years since gunz. Not alot of people play the game anymore but the people that do don't fuck around. Felt like i couldnt even compete after one day of playing luckily met a couple in the community were willing to help (when i played before not alot of people in american servers actaully all knew k style etc.) im sure this will help me improve much faster respect brother👍

[@nonchalant0001]

I came back to it after 9 years of quittin too .. on freestyle gunz these days n might try fxp later

[@Method2k5]

Thanks for this, I've been trying to figure out a good setup to relearn and lose the rust

[@GuilteTV]

The only issue I have with this is it forces a 1 3 1 grip on your mouse. If you're full fingertip on your mouse, you lose a lot of control of your mouse. Especially if you're thumb has to reach up to the side mouse button.

[@Shumi_Tribe]

conceptually its explained well, but past that it comes down to comfort. Personally I like having reload and sword on m4/m5 and I chose to keep flip on rc for block rush spam. But overall it gets the idea to newer players very well. Great job friend :)

[@jocapoc]

nice vulfpeck at the end, and nice tips!

[@kataeiautsav918]

Thanks alot for uploading! We love gunz!

[@personalbest5445]

i know is a 5 year old video. But saying u cant do certain movements with default keybinds is the most horrorific shit ive ever read for this game. i have friend with default keybinds for over 10 years and can do every single movement.

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Yes. You are absolutely correct. I was being hyperbolic when I stated that. At the time I thought it was harmless and innocuous. I also hoped that my later statement that "as long as it's comfortable for you, it's a good bind" would sweep that comment under the rug (as well as the viewer's common sense). Though, it's actually one of the only few things that has made me consider redoing the video (or at least reuploading it with that edited out). Then again, I also feel like if it gets people to change from the default binds, then I'd rather people do so based upon misinformation. (That's a bit selfish, and probably not a good excuse. I should be able to convey and convince solely with correct information...) I appreciate the criticism, and I'm glad that someone has called that blatant falsehood out. It's good when the community keeps you in check. So thank you. Maybe, if I ever decide to come back to gunz I will reedit, but for now I just will have to live with the imperfection and hope that those who use my videos for guidance keep doing so with a healthy dose of skepticism. So, thank you for the call out. I do apologize for that one statement with no disagreements with your take.

[@loonsxxvi2818]

woahhhh, this video is absolutely darn right informative!

[@TRU3OGR3]

Bro this was a great video, I came back to find recently since late 2000s and with my new smarter not harder mindset I came up w some of these organically. Curious if doubling up on movement commands might do anything useful and practical. Also just not playing wasd and maybe position at rsdfg

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Thank you! RE: Doubling up on movement commands - This is very unconventional, but I do know there have been several players that have decided to do this because it makes dashing a fluid "rolling" motion with the fingers. I also have the notion that it unnecessarily adds more physical buttons to press, but it's not like adding an additional binding prevents one from using the 1st binding for traditional dashing input vs. rolling dashing input. RE: wasd vs. rsdfg - I think this is just preference. The "s" would effectively serve the same purpose as Shift. "E" and "T" would serve the same purpose as "Q" and "E". I don't really think it's significantly all that difference. Overall, keybinds should follow: 1. The best keybind is the one that makes you comfortable. 2. Allocation of as many finger digits as possible. 3. Reduce unnecessary stretching. 4. Close physical proximity of inputs. 1&3 are most important as keybinds are meant to make things physically more comfortable, and 2&4 assist in doing that. As long as your binds generally follow those guidelines its really up to you what you want to do. HOWEVER: I ultimate believe that if you do decide to rebind anything, it should be reload to middle mouse button and M4/M5, and sword on scroll down/up.

[@sebtc4607]

Thanks for the vid, super helpful as a new player Question about Reload Shot with these binds. Does it matter if you pull out your sword between the 2 shots? I am having some trouble clicking the scroll wheel(to reload) without scrolling and switching to sword while doing so. It seems the speed is still there even if I pull out the sword by accident but not sure if this is a bad habit.

[@nugget7323]

You don't want to swap to your sword after the first shot, only after the second. (Starting on gun 1) Shoot > Reload > Gun2 > Shoot > Reload+Sword > Gun1... (Repeat). I too, have trouble pressing the scroll button without swapping to sword which is why I also bind Reload to my M4 side button if I just want to RS. Does that answer your question? Is there anything else I might be able to help with?

[@flip_shifty]

ergonomic philosophy :O

[@jacksonwilliams2380]

So do people usually keep their pointer finger on the left mouse button middle finger on the mouse scroll wheel and ring finger on the right mouse button? I’ve never held a mouse like this so I’m just curious if I should get used to that.

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

You got it! Some people say that it does affect aiming if you're too tough on the scroll wheel for sword/weapon, but this is why playing relaxed and having good muscle memory for moves is important. Never use more energy than necessary, never do harder work when you can do more efficiently.

[@jacksonwilliams2380]

@@jumpdashslashblock5345 Nothing some good old jams and training can’t fix B) Thank you for the quick response! I’m actually about to practice so it was perfect timing

[@truthseeker2236]

Nice setup! I have similarish. Basically bounded reload and switch to sword on mouse. Gives me easy access to do moves in every direction with rs.

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Dope! I'm not sure if I explicitly stated it in the video, but if there are 2 binds you should reallocate to mouse it's Reload and Switch to Sword. It makes everything a whole lot easier and less physically demanding.

[@drallersouldust3054]

what mouse you are using? btw I see other people using m4 and m 5 as directional movement and it's like additional movement besides wasd

[@pitapat1161]

Hey do u still play it gonna make anymore videos? Your videos are so useful

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Hi! I took a hiatus cause my arthritis and tendonitis. I was thinking of completely quitting until GunZ has got a sudden boost in popularity, so I've been playing again on FreestyleGunZ. I do plan on making more videos, though they take a rather long time.

[@pitapat1161]

@@jumpdashslashblock5345 oh hope you get better bro hope to see more videos too so far your video makes the most sense to me for a beginner keep it up

[@soldierofjesuschrist1]

thank you ive used this and got better. what advantage is 1/sword? im curious.

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Thank you for watching, I'm glad that it's helped you! Sword being on 1 is just because you have an additional key you can bind it to, so you might as well be using it. Generally though, you'll pretty much access sword only by scroll wheel once you're accustomed to it. Your secondary keybind isn't nearly as important as the primary bind you will be using for any action. That's why if there's any advice you should be mindful of is that RELOAD and SWORD should be very easily accessible. Whether that be on the middle mouse button, scroll wheel, or m4/m5 button. You want to make sure that you can comfortably access the bind.

[@fuyufn]

i will try it today thank you

[@blazeiken2]

old video i know, but generally it just sucks because ive gotten so so used to using the basic keybinds so now it feels impossible to use others. I can perfectly fluidly use 1 2 for sword / weapon 1 respectively and got everything else down. My problem is with weapon 2 on 3, i CAN do it but sometimes I whiff causing me to either die or lose out on a potential kill. My problem is my finger placement but it just feels like muscle memory I can't break. I can't use scroll wheel because it feels extremely awkward in general due to me using RMB for reload (ik i never see people use it, but it just feels so much more fluid to RS) and M4 for flip. I use ring finger for A so it kindof just feels awkward to move left while fighting using 3. Is there any potential way to break these memories or at least find an alternative to 3? E seems weird as well to me, and I've been experimenting on a ton of other keys but they all feel clunky. I suppose playing more often with a different keybind will help but man if only i can successfully get down using wep 2, it would be a godsend and would immensely help improvement.

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

As the saying goes: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Trying to relearn new muscle memory to overwrite previous muscle memory is much harder than learning it from the beginning. I know it's easy for me to say, but I do so much heavily encourage good keybinds that I do feel like even for you, it's worth starting from scratch and relearning. It will suck, it will be frustrating, it will be boring to learn - but I think it's so much worth it. Either way, the most important is that your hands don't get hurt or fatigue quickly. As for weapons, E is definitely my preferred key for at least one of your guns. I also think that Capslock for the other gun is great as well. Both E and capslock are always assessable no matter what direction you're moving/dashing. And no unnecessary stretching.

[@mattwhite880]

Why 2 buttons for reload?

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Good question! Please bear with me as this response might be a bit lengthy. There are 2 buttons for reload, primarily because of comfort of usage during different actions: Reload on Mouse Wheel Button is typically for any time you want to switch to sword after a shot. Typically this is for more advanced moves/techniques such as Late Dash (LD), Late Dash Gear Tap (LDGT), Double Halfstep (DHS), and the infamous Grounded Double Halfstep (GDHS). Although, having Reload with Mouse Wheel Button greatly helps with chaining more fundamental movements: RHS, RHHS, RS. Why? Since we put Sword on Scroll Wheel Down we can effectively Reload+Switch to Sword in one motion. We just click down on the middle mouse button as we scroll down. In many instances, players find it very hard NOT to switch to sword as you depress the middle mouse button when using these keybinds. "So why do we have Reload also on Mouse Button 4?": Simply, because it's easier when just doing repeated Reload Shots (RS). As stated above, having reload on middle mouse button also means it's difficult to NOT switch to sword as well. This obviously isn't good when we're trying to RS. So for purely comfort, we use M4 for when we want to repeatedly RS and general reloading. You don't HAVE to bind Reload to M4. It is entirely possible to train your muscle memory to have the light touch and just purely use Middle Mouse Button. I just find it easier and more comfortable using M4 when I RS. If, however, there is one button you decide to bind your Reload to, I heavily encourage you to (I almost deem it necessary) put it on mouse wheel button. This also means you should have at least 1 of your sword keybinds to be Scroll Wheel Down (or scroll wheel up, whichever you prefer). If you're new to GunZ or trying to polish off the rust these two bindings (Reload on Mouse wheel button and Sword on Scroll Wheel Down) may not seem like such a big deal, but it's truly one of the few "optimal" bindings. I hope that answers your question. If you have any other thoughts, comments, questions, or concerns; please don't hesitate to comment. Good luck. Have Fun!

[@discographies]

ur glorious dude

[@sumtoz1132]

brooo how to activate training shotgun

[@S9staryu]

1:42 personally, playing this game 15 years ago made sure that would not be the case

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

You may train all of your fingers to be dexterous (any musician will tell you that), but it's - as I quote: "typically the least dexterous digit..." That is to say, the pinky, is naturally the least dexterous of your hands to do tasks requiring specific fine motor control. Most things that are difficult can be circumvented with diligent, consistent, and prolonged practice though the advice given is to instead work with pinky, relegate it less used input (flip). You'll still need to practice, but that's a truism.

[@freezero943]

Hey thanks for this man

[@Dreekuz]

some damn good content

[@Pufster_]

I have been playing gunz for decade 12 or more years but i have keyboard called corrosair K68 this keyboard is not good for gunz or i am i just that bad in game again i use to be pro with sword and weapon switching know days i suck

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Hmm, most mechanical keyboards with NKRO should be suitable for GunZ. If you've taken a long time away from gunz and trying to get back then the unfortunate news is that you'll need to start back and practice fundamental movement and game mechanics. This might seem disheartening, but it's not! Remember that it's not that you don't know it, it's just that you're practicing to remember. Additionally, players have gotten much much better since 12 years ago. I wish you the best in continuing your GunZ journey. Remember that FUN is the most important thing. Spend the majority of your time playiing in matches rather in training room.

[@qsuashi]

thank you!

[@user-c3jdf9lylzse]

im scared of using the middle mouse click and spamming it in game like gunz. last time used in gunz it made my scroll wheel a little broken like when i scroll down it goes up 1-2 ticks (if that makes any sense)

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

That is understandable. Typically, mouses now are more robust and better quality. However, what is most important for a good keybinding is: 1. Good distribution of inputs on left and right hands. 2. Easy to access binds (you do not want to have far away binds because that can lead to overextention of your fingers and wrist which is bad for hand health. 3. Most frequent inputs are easier to access than lesser used ones.

[@flip_shifty]

thx

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

No, thank /you/. Even after several years if just one person finds these videos useful then it makes me immensely happy. I'm sorry I haven't made any more videos since my last one. There are things I'd like to revisit and modify. Maybe some day. Haha~

[@flip_shifty]

@@jumpdashslashblock5345 Dont be sorry for not making new content mate. You put out a great video. Be happy with that. I subbed

[@flip_shifty]

Did you read text off a wiki or something? The script seems very well structured.

[@flip_shifty]

You took pictures and put them in the video this is some next lvl shit

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

@@flip_shifty Nope, no wiki! Every video is scripted, edited, and voiced by me. I have hundreds of failed takes whether it be the poorest of audio or mispronunciations. I think the one thing I should have done is overlayed text for which buttons corresponded to which input. Again, food for thought if I ever "remaster" the video. That said, if you have any thoughts or criticisms on how I can improve videos I'm always open for advice.

[@balintm5803]

Thanks

[@vnzgrx]

Thanks bro

[@TheColeTruth]

ugh i have to reprogram my brain after using shitty default keys all these years lol

[@ash0787]

Tried a few different ways but I was never able to go super fast. I can do some of the harder moves like DHS or repeated wall late dash thing but it feels too hard to consistently perform to be very useful in battle. It seems to depend a lot on what mouse, I can't do the middle mouse reload with 2 popular mouse, the razer deathadder or original rog gladius, but I can do it with the old microsoft laser mouses ( grey one ), I also can't do TBF with those mouses but I can with the old mouse, it has a low non adjustable DPI though and a low polling rate unless you do some hack thing which hasn't been working when I tried it in recent years. I sort of figured that the top gunz players use a secret special key bindings and hardware that they keep a secret between themselves.

[@gamewarrior9107]

ill tell u a trick. Q and E for Sg and literally everything else on mouse. Reload on right mouse. Sword and block on mouse side buttons. Heals on 2 and 3. done. So easy. You shoot then right click and when moving left you hit E and hitting Q moving right

[@drallersouldust3054]

you mean macro? that's illegal in top games

[@mitama-tunes]

Great content! Keep it up bro

[@lightstep3919]

I wish i knew the optimal config back in 2008, been playing with E as block Q as flip and 1, sword, 2, gun, 3, gun, R reload..... scroll wheel disabled also...

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

It is surprising how many people still use a rather bad configuration. Most of them are significantly better than I am, but when I ask why they do not change it is usually: "Because I am used to what I have now." Which, I understand as a valid reason despite that new keybindings can be picked up relatively quickly. The issue I have is the fact that non-optimal keybindings are a risk of hand, joint, tendon, and tissue health. For that reason, I think dismissing a better keybinding scheme is immature, reckless, and just plain stupid. No game should take priority of your health.

[@2saintfn184]

@@jumpdashslashblock5345 My thing ; I've used scroll wheel for weapons for literally 10 years. Tho it doesn't pull out guns faster to do certain movements such as late-dash... Tried a couple times breaking my self down to one of these configs.. but when I put them on I literally cannot do a wall climb because my head is to used to having guns on scroll wheel... how tf am I meant to do D:

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

@@2saintfn184 It is not mechanically faster (as in it has no frame advantage compared to any other keypress), however it is ergonomically superior and is physically more efficient/easier and thus it will overall speed your movements. As for you trouble with muscle memory: the only way to remedy this is practice and to rebuild your muscle memory. It is more difficult than just learning it as a beginner because you first have to undue your previous muscle memory first so it is another step in learning these particular keybindings. The question that many people ask is "why should I learn it now, even though I have learn another key config. already?" and my answer to this comes in two parts: 1. Do you want to be as efficient at playing GunZ as you possibly can be? 2. Does your physical hand health matter much to you? These two points are very easy to dismiss (and many GunZ veterans do). For 1, you may say that you are doing just well without optimal keybinds which is fair enough, but the philosophy of partitioning keypresses evenly to both hands (within reason) is going to be more optimal for ergonomic and physical efficiency reasons. It must also be said that if you are very serious about GunZ then the only downside of relearning the keybinds is exactly that - you have to relearn. The hassle is worth it in the end, you just have to bite the bullet and put in the work again. For 2, many will say that GunZ has had no negative effects on their hands, but the fact is that most are not old enough to feel the effects of extremely repetitive and taxing keypresses. Additionally, as a person who already has arthritis - the default keybindings caused me serious pain, while the optimal one significantly less so. I will stand by my word and say that NO GAME SHOULD EVER BE SO IMPORTANT AS TO COMPROMISE YOUR PHYSICAL HEALTH. And in long term hand health, GunZ is a huge risk without proper hand care (which 99% of players will not diligently ultilize). An ounce of prevention is worth more than a ton of cure. All in all, I say this and I say this because GunZ players need to hear this the most: Put your ego aside and learn good/efficient gameplay. If not for being the best you can be - then for your actual physical health.

[@2saintfn184]

@@jumpdashslashblock5345 Don't think I have enough free time to completely break down to a new config :X but yeah fo shure I heard people got tendinis and stuff off fortnite so no doubt GunZ can cause hands injuries considering the speed pace of that game bruv :O

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

@@2saintfn184 That is fair enough. We all have to make choices and sacrifices in life. As long as you are aware of the risks and have due diligence then it should be alright. Remember that these videos are meant to be for new players. Having them start with good foundations is invaluable.

[@vsnei]

best fov / mouse sens ????

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Hi! The FoV depends on the server, but I like to keep mine in the 70-90 range. For Mouse Sensitivity I recommend using a cm/360. I like mine at about 32cm-36cm/360. All preference though. I have really bad aim so I like to keep my sensitivity lower. For Gladiator, you want an extremely high cm/360 as it will make phasing and angling much easier.

[@johnperez9132]

#Revive

[@EthixGunZ]

GunZ is still around? I played since kgunz and when the international version hit (ijji gunz) I was addicted, made many shitty KZbin videos that I deleted other than a few of them I like to look back at from time to time. Think I had almost 20 shitty montages lol But was all for good fun, I look back at how ego everyone was in the game, including myself and laugh.

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

Only private servers with populations ranging 70-200 players, but I urge you to check them out Freestyle GunZ and Universe GunZ are the most popular servers right now. /r/GunZ on reddit has frequent posts of users asking what servers they should play on. Those might help you decide.

[@EthixGunZ]

JumpDashSlashBlock thanks I’ll check them out, wonder if there’s still any OG players still playing.

[@jumpdashslashblock5345]

@@EthixGunZ There are at least really really old players around, though a lot have stopped playing. There are whisperings going on the rumor mill about GunZ being released on Steam, because of covid and other setbacks it was pushed back, but it might happen later this year.

[@redknep4363]

@@EthixGunZ started playing casually again. Im from 2005… didnt play for 9 years

[@nonchalant0001]

​@@redknep4363i came back after 9 years of quittin too

[@L1JAY.]

get the spit off ur mouse big dawg

[@JOHNNY-qi2vm]

no