I Switched to a Glass Mousepad for 30 days

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@vSirKev
@vSirKev 11 ай бұрын
"I thought the sleeve might be too much" says bro as he's holding a battery attached to a scroll wheel and 2 switches instead of a mouse 💀
@bajnokwatta
@bajnokwatta 3 ай бұрын
hi
@puffii_
@puffii_ 2 ай бұрын
@@bajnokwatta hi!
@kannonfps
@kannonfps 2 ай бұрын
definitely what i was thinking lol
@palps797
@palps797 Ай бұрын
@@puffii_hi
@delly2766
@delly2766 16 сағат бұрын
lmao
@manny655321
@manny655321 Жыл бұрын
The OG glass pad is actually the SteelSeries IceMat that came out almost 20 years ago. I used one for years and loved it. The disadvantage is that if any small bit of hard dust gets between the mouse feet and the glass, it feels really bad until you clean the mouse and the glass pad thoroughly.
@CalgaryCalamari
@CalgaryCalamari Жыл бұрын
I'm still running my IceMat this day! You'd have to rip it from my cold, dead mouse before I'd give it up... I really love how precise it is for work (graphics & animation) too! :D
@mazedmarky
@mazedmarky Жыл бұрын
I had the compad Speedpad which had a bit more texture (basically a hybrid) to counterweigh this, CS 1.3 days lost it unfortunately, must have happen on some Lan
@torontowill
@torontowill Жыл бұрын
I have a modern day Razer glass pad, and even though I love it, I do agree with that awful feeling. I find it is easy to quickly clean by simply wiping my hand across the pad a few times, but if some dust settles and gets caught under the mouse, look out. It feels like grinding a rock pebble against the glass, it's terrible.
@mazedmarky
@mazedmarky Жыл бұрын
@@torontowill ahaha I can feel that. yea sometimes I think you need like 2 desks, 1 for gaming in a vacuum dude
@unrealcyberfly
@unrealcyberfly Жыл бұрын
Everyone had to get a glass mouse pad back then. I bet that thing still sits in a closet somewhere.
@vincentzhou824
@vincentzhou824 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to try all these products just to still be silver
@saiprasad8078
@saiprasad8078 Жыл бұрын
Imagine you rank down 😂
@MistxCL
@MistxCL Жыл бұрын
🤣
@1honeybun
@1honeybun Жыл бұрын
change your mentality and the way you treat playing the game. you will start to rank up. hold yourself accountable for your rank or gameplay, not the products you by
@abduktedtemplar
@abduktedtemplar Жыл бұрын
Emotional damage
@limutip9184
@limutip9184 Жыл бұрын
@@KillerInstinct1someone took the joke to serious
@darkySp
@darkySp Жыл бұрын
To me, the idea of "registering every small movement" is closer to "registering every small imperfection/jitter" I think it's a really cool idea and it might suit some people, but sensitivity in 3D games is not just software settings. The friction between the mouse and arm against the mousepad is important and it's all part in how the aiming feels. The more of that friction you take away, the more of the stability you take away from it and thus, every little thing will ultimately affect your in-game aim. I think there's definitely a sweet spot with friction and if you have too much you lose control, if you have too little, you lose stability. I think this kind of mousepad would definitely not be a positive for me, but then again I've spent years playing mostly FPS games on a cloth pad and I'm used with the feel of it. My muscle memory has developed side by side with friction, so it's all just natural to me. I don't think that trade-off is worth it to get less friction. Who's to say some people that have gotten used to glass pads will be the same or better, though ?
@Zelenity
@Zelenity Жыл бұрын
PERFECTLY worded.
@Ashevlyn
@Ashevlyn Жыл бұрын
I made the drastic switch from a 5 year old QCK to a Pulsar superglide, the first month or so was really difficult to get used to but after that I just felt like I was playing the same but without the downsides of a cloth pad.
@salus5319
@salus5319 Жыл бұрын
I mean just look at what he said 6:45, "If you've ever wondered what glass on glass feels like (glass sliders on a glass mouse pad), it's basically like your mouse is on an air-hockey table: there is no feedback underneath the mousepad." He notes that there is "no feedback" to the hand, or in other words, no friction, yet he then seconds later says "so yeah probably don't do this", implying that too little friction is bad. What I'm trying to get at is that he has drawn a line between too much and too little friction, but I'm on your side in that I don't entirely know that it's in the right place. The same thing also applies to his mouse itself, and how light it is, and the bad ergonomics are. In the end, this whole problem can be simplified to training your brain to know how much force to apply to your mouse to move it a certain amount of pixels, and whether you have 0 friction or tons of friction, as long as your mouse pad friction, mouse sliders friction, and mouse mass are consistent, your brain can learn the force to pixels ratio at any point. Then we look to see what's easier to be consistent with, and though this is an unproven belief, I believe that your body naturally has better control over larger forces than the tiny ones required to move his nearly frictionless and massless mouse.
@Archoles
@Archoles Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you're mentioning all of this from the perspective of swapping from cloth to glass or just in general, but if it's the latter I don't agree with calling it "imperfections" because I find that to be fundamentally biased to say if that makes sense? They're not necessarily imperfections, it's just with the guaranteed minimum friction there is using a cloth pad and standard mouse, the minimum threshold of force to move the mouse will naturally be a set value higher than on a glass pad, meaning that until you use enough force to reach the threshold, there will be no noticable movements of the cursor/crosshair. With a glasspad this threshold is lowered and therefore the amount of force we might passively apply to our mouse will be noticed because previously the friction that increased the threshold would prevent our passive or minor force to engage the cursor whereas now it would. For someone who starts with a glasspad this would be a nonissue as they would be equally clueless on how to comfortably maneuver a mouse anyways, right? It's just about being used to it. If you just meant everything just from the perspective of swapping over from cloth to glass, I can moreso understand where you're coming from though I still don't think they're imperfections so to speak.
@kuratse205
@kuratse205 Жыл бұрын
Nope. This isnt an issue about friction, but about sensitivity in general. It's the exact same as high vs low sens; where low sens gives you far more control, but loses speed. While high sens gives speed but loses control. With this, your effective sens is actually affected by your 1) mousepad 2) dpi 3) in game sens 4) any imperfection on your mousepad (grime, sweat, oil). The whole "imperfections showing because its more accurate" bit is literally just the same as a higher sens. So play around with sensitivity, it will fix the issues. My opinion is that a smoother mousepad combined with far lower sens (like super duper low) and far higher dpi is the way to go.
@ChrisBa303
@ChrisBa303 Жыл бұрын
Subtile flex with the Deadlift and Squats weight 😂 Got to love Optimum for that
@samserious1337
@samserious1337 Жыл бұрын
Imagine he had worn the gaming sleeves while doing it, +20kg instant!
@ChrisBa303
@ChrisBa303 Жыл бұрын
@@samserious1337 Would have doubled his precision when lowering the weight😂
@caen-un9cw
@caen-un9cw Жыл бұрын
He's squatting 180 kilos. He should be flexing hard
@fastuncio
@fastuncio Жыл бұрын
bro repping >230kg
@holm511
@holm511 Жыл бұрын
Wish he had a lifting channel!
@TheVoiTube
@TheVoiTube 7 ай бұрын
That arm sleeve would remove one issue. Dirt on mousepad from skin grease. No more constant spots where tracking is weaker than other spots.
@norcobick
@norcobick Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I forget how buff this man is
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 Жыл бұрын
would bang
@TacticalKR3W
@TacticalKR3W Жыл бұрын
@@BOZ_11 Bro?
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 Жыл бұрын
@@TacticalKR3W Don't worry, I'll put in a good word
@DelScully
@DelScully Жыл бұрын
@@TacticalKR3W did he stutter?
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
sometimes I forget how inbred many youtube viewers are... but then I see comments
@torontowill
@torontowill Жыл бұрын
I got Razer's glass mouse pad (the "Atlas") a couple months ago, and it is the best gaming peripheral upgrade I've made in... maybe ever. I think the implementation of different glass mats may give a very different experience, but the Razer mat totally works for me. It is so smooth and consistent (totally agree with the video, way better than using glass skates), basically infinitely durable (some of my cloth mouse pads were ruined almost instantly by a cat claw puncture), and impossibly easy to clean with a simple wipe (again the cat, hair is a problem). I find I can easily adjust how fast it is by how much of my hand I let spill over the mouse and touch the pad. I do use a sleeve from the wrist up, but I don't find that it's a problem to have some of my palm touching the glass. I tend to actually prefer it, it slows movement down enough to give control comparable to a cloth mat, and gives me tactile feedback that I find comforting. My hands generally don't get sweaty, so it's still plenty fast, just not as slippery. In a situation where I need to make bigger and faster movements, I can just lift my hand up a bit to reduce the amount of contact with the pad, and movement is blazing fast. And again I can't emphasize enough how much better it is versus glass skates on the mouse, a totally different (and much better) experience.
@griefwnl7641
@griefwnl7641 4 ай бұрын
I’m going to try it out because of this comment.
@torontowill
@torontowill 4 ай бұрын
@@griefwnl7641 hope you like it! 11 months later I stand by it. I tried switching back to cloth for a bit, and hated it. Still feel strongly that glass is superior.
@zertbrown4642
@zertbrown4642 Жыл бұрын
I like that optimum is actually taking the time to try out niche products like this
@pcmasterracetechgod5660
@pcmasterracetechgod5660 Жыл бұрын
Now everybody just needs to take the time to get good on a low DPI like 600, and use over 100cm/360 so they can actually hit shots and stop worrying about copying some esports player
@Danuxsy
@Danuxsy Жыл бұрын
why? it's pure marketing, the products are crap and not needed, thanks but no thanks.
@TheACTIONZ
@TheACTIONZ Жыл бұрын
​@@Danuxsyhave you tried one? Lmao, it's perfect for tracking games like apex
@DvisN
@DvisN Жыл бұрын
@@TheACTIONZ Well I personally still prefer Fast MousePads like the Artisan Shidenkai instead of the GlassPads. I personally think you still need a bit of control that is just not existing in the GlassPads. Played multiple Shooters competitively and tried out many different pads.
@TheACTIONZ
@TheACTIONZ Жыл бұрын
@@DvisN you can definitely get good with a glass mousepad like some creators, but it does need a lot of determination
@VaderHater1993
@VaderHater1993 Жыл бұрын
Would have been neat to see a before and after comparison with an aim program: cloth vs. glass pads
@rcarter1690
@rcarter1690 Жыл бұрын
Definitely earned the like for those lifts alone! 220kg deadlift is impressive! 💪
@gr3123
@gr3123 7 ай бұрын
Looks like 235
@Trevor31lv
@Trevor31lv Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late to this, just found your channel tonight and have been binging through a lot of your old vids, but the discussion about the sleeve REALLY spoke to me. I'm also a powerlifter and I think that comparison is perfect. I started playing with a sleeve about a month ago and it's seriously made a massive difference for me. My room in my house doesn't have any airflow due to it being part of an original bigger room that was later made into 2, it's on the side of the house that gets sunlight all day, and most of my gaming comes between 2-8PM. All these factors basically make my room feel like a sauna while I'm playing and I'm already someone who sweats more than the average person. The struggles on playing and constantly sticking to my mouse pad and frequently having my inputs messed up because of that were beyond irritating. For me specifically with all that context, putting a sleeve on seriously may have been a bigger buff to my gameplay than going from 60hz to 244hz, it was that extreme. Obviously this is probably a more extreme case, but for anyone who has regular issues or even just annoyance with sweaty wrists or arms, I think trying out playing with a sleeve is someone you should heavily consider. Having the friction between your arm and mousepad always be constant is big and consistency is something we look for in other areas. I mean imagine playing with your chair 6 inches higher or lower or playing a foot further back from your desk. Maybe you think you'll feel cringe doing it, but that feeling will go away quickly if you feel improvements. I felt the same about knee sleeves in powerlifting until I tried them and started loving them. Really love that you spoke about sleeves and I related big time since my gaming experience has gotten so much better recently since I started using one.
@_yet_8457
@_yet_8457 Жыл бұрын
'I used to do power lifting' no wonder Ali is so buff
@kaisersolo76
@kaisersolo76 Жыл бұрын
This is how you compete!
@techoutlet6251
@techoutlet6251 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit like I can see you are working out in your videos (big biceps, traps, and chest) but I didn't expect you to be a fellow powerlifter! with a decent 500+ deadlift too
@vrrdragon
@vrrdragon Жыл бұрын
Glass Mousepads he used (4:06): *Cerapad KIN* - Highest friction, most stopping power *Pulsar Superglide Pad* - In the middle, some stopping power, but still extremely smooth *Skypad 3.0 XL* - Lowest friction, least stopping power
@GL-Red
@GL-Red Жыл бұрын
Thx
@ahmadhaziq3802
@ahmadhaziq3802 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@Swixtee
@Swixtee Жыл бұрын
He went over this
@5n0w55
@5n0w55 Жыл бұрын
@@Swixtee its for people who don't remember and need a quick reminder and don't wanna have to scrub through the video time and time again :)
@Absey32
@Absey32 Жыл бұрын
we love u
@jackzheng2451
@jackzheng2451 Жыл бұрын
I got myself a Superglide pad after watching this video, and suprisingly my experience is a bit different to Ali's. I immediately feel that I can track better and flick more accurately in games like Apex because of the low static friction. Also, the high friction between skin and glass pads cause little to no issue to me. Since I am using wrist aiming, playing without a sleeve is doable as most of the time there is no need to move my arm across the pad.
@T94869
@T94869 Жыл бұрын
How is the durability? Does it still feel the same as when you first got it? Mine is getting delivered today
@jackzheng2451
@jackzheng2451 Жыл бұрын
@@T94869 I’ve been using it on and off during this time. It still feels the same as day1.
@Its-Just-Zip
@Its-Just-Zip Жыл бұрын
Im hyped for the ultralight mouse to be available. Being able to get something so light hopefully without shelling out absurd prices will be nice.
@breakies
@breakies Жыл бұрын
2 months till the ULX will be shipped out, i wanna see how a 200€ mouse from a company that prides itself with its mice stacks up vs a youtube boyos 3d printed fun project.
@carlomatik6392
@carlomatik6392 Жыл бұрын
I just hope there will be an affordable option to just buy the 3d files instead :(
@breakies
@breakies Жыл бұрын
@@SedatedSloth if you include shipping and import taxes its closer to 230€ for europeans till shops like maxgaming get batches sent out like with the last batch. also waiting 2 months and playing the first batch lotto on such an expensive mouse is bonkers and i understand why people would spring for a lamzu atlantis for 100€ and just have it instead of dealing with final support and waiting longer when the QC is bad again. its all just preference and willingness to deal with bullshit really.
@Inconsistense
@Inconsistense Жыл бұрын
@@breakies They now have duty paid shipping for £15 via Fedex so you shouldn't pay any additional import duty or costs. I agree it's preference and the mice are pretty different shapes too, but personally I've never had any issues with finalmouse but could just be luck of the draw.
@breakies
@breakies Жыл бұрын
@@Inconsistense oh thats actually freakin dope. im more than happy with my lamzu, but honestly this makes me consider an ULX in a future batch maybe.
@C0lbyte
@C0lbyte Жыл бұрын
2 extremes in the complete opposite direction. Day and night guy should be his name. Literally doing the heaviest strength sport and then go out of your way to do the lightest possible way to play another sport :D
@alexanderosinubi5154
@alexanderosinubi5154 Жыл бұрын
Bro you have actually become my new favourite tech channel. Thank you for making such high quality vids
@yourlocalhuman3526
@yourlocalhuman3526 Жыл бұрын
I'm telling you man. I legit jumped to my bed to watch the video. Everyone else I watch on my monitor
@nanuuki8989
@nanuuki8989 Жыл бұрын
Fr this guy is an absolute chad
@xW3rder
@xW3rder Жыл бұрын
Just casually squatting 180kg and deadlifting 230kg to show wrist sleeve might be useful when gaming 😂 Dude you're a beast!
@Brownboy42069
@Brownboy42069 Жыл бұрын
Even this dude’s hair dryer is aesthetically pleasing
@jwlafferty
@jwlafferty Жыл бұрын
If that's not his GF/wife's hair dryer I'm disappointed. I use a $15 Conair I bought at the drug store 7 years ago in university and that works perfectly fine.
@Lethal_Bite
@Lethal_Bite Жыл бұрын
​@@jwlaffertyI mean, yeah, it works perfectly fine. I could say the same thing about getting 30 fps and using a membrane keyboard for gaming. It works fine. But it isn't as enjoyable or good as it could be, is it? Nicer hair dryers do make a difference and let you dry your hair much faster.
@xKILLRL
@xKILLRL Жыл бұрын
@@jwlaffertythat shit is gonna light on fire any day now
@jwlafferty
@jwlafferty Жыл бұрын
@@Lethal_Bite I have trouble believing there are significant differences between hair dryers. And I spare no expense on important things. Currently running a 4090/7800X3D rig. 4X 3090 and 2X 3080 last gen (plus other cards, mining), new Land Rover Defender, etc. But a man should not be spending hundreds of dollars on a hair dryer.
@jwlafferty
@jwlafferty Жыл бұрын
@@xKILLRL the last one survived several years before that until I dropped it in water or on the floor too many times. Go blue $15 Conair hairdryer!
@Murphy877
@Murphy877 10 ай бұрын
His mouse is probably like -2 grams
@IvanOfficial01
@IvanOfficial01 Жыл бұрын
Most cracked gamer techtuber award goes to Optimum Tech 😂
@derekbancarz4530
@derekbancarz4530 Жыл бұрын
Awrsome vid! The razer atlas is also inbetween the super and the skypad friction wise, i found that to be my favourite pad :D
@sora6573
@sora6573 Жыл бұрын
Being someone who lifts and cares about his physique, I knew this guy had big ass forearm but man 4 plate squat and 5 plate deadlift, that was something quite unexpected. I mean you don’t imagine Austin Evans or Jayztwocent or Linus repping over 400 lbs on Squat and Deadlift right?
@jinjinjinrou
@jinjinjinrou Жыл бұрын
and have really good fps aim as well.
@Not_Bed
@Not_Bed Жыл бұрын
Jay is quite big now tho
@Tekka87
@Tekka87 Жыл бұрын
Too right, could always tell he was jacked but those were some impressive lifts.
@laczikmarton2745
@laczikmarton2745 Жыл бұрын
And after that amazing lifts, he got time to do high quality and entertraining tech videos! Truly insane imo
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
He has no child so he has time for that
@MrJules2U
@MrJules2U Жыл бұрын
Best gamer tech channel on KZbin. Great vid as always mate.
@CutePetandDogs
@CutePetandDogs Жыл бұрын
I think one big benefit of glass is the longevity, with cloth pads youll get some dust and crumbs in it with time
@lain2236ad
@lain2236ad Жыл бұрын
Just wash it
@aqyx
@aqyx Жыл бұрын
​@@lain2236addestroys the fabric
@diligaf1000
@diligaf1000 Жыл бұрын
On the flip side the hard surface mouse pads scrape the pads on the bottom of the mouse. Maybe not so much the glass ones though .
@jairusclement1725
@jairusclement1725 Жыл бұрын
@@diligaf1000 Glass ones scrape even more
@SerratedPVP
@SerratedPVP Жыл бұрын
@@aqyx my 120x magnifying glass says otherwise
@kittehLORDZ
@kittehLORDZ Жыл бұрын
I think the problem people have with glass mouse pad being "unstable" is due to the sensitivity they are using. I play on really low sens (61 cm/360), so the matter of small movements isn't an obstacle, but improved with a faster surface.
@BornInArona
@BornInArona Жыл бұрын
61cm sounds like work 😅 I'm on 32cm...
@SubzeroBlack68
@SubzeroBlack68 Жыл бұрын
But another issue with that is having to move your mouse 3ft across the room just to do a 180 turn
@Wavy_NL
@Wavy_NL Жыл бұрын
I love quality of these videos, the effort that go's into these videos is like no one else. Keep it up man👍
@redjoysftw572
@redjoysftw572 10 ай бұрын
I have used a glass mouspad for over two years know (Sykpad), and to answer your question how people can use it without a sleeve. I have really dry skin, when I game my hands/arms are getting colder, so little to no sweat for me, so I can't really stick to it. Alltough after a really hot today I stick to the pad yes, but fixable with a cool room. Furthermore, pre prepared to buy new mouse skates, the glass doesn't wear down, but your PTFE Saktes will, after a really long time after use you should definitely change your skates. You can really feel your mouse getting slower and slower and lossing the speed of the pad if you're skates have worn out. Something you didn't say in your Vid. I would recommend the pad ecspecially for people that have trouble with aim tracking like me, combined with a light mouse it helped me get better tracking compared to my old cloth pad. I agree to the rest of the Video completely, ecspecially getting used to it. As you said Dust can be a problem, if something like a hair gets stuck under your mouse you instantly feel it and breaks you outta game, so you can clean your Mouse skates or Pad. Great Videos keep posting :D
@JeetFN
@JeetFN Жыл бұрын
Squat is at least 160 (not including bar so more than that. Deadlift hard to say cuz theres little plates on the end but the normal plates are 20kg 5 on each side so very munimum 200kg (without bar) which is absolutely nuts
@JeetFN
@JeetFN Жыл бұрын
@@sexhaver_420 rough estimates
@Shieftain
@Shieftain Жыл бұрын
You're forgetting the weight of the bar, which adds at least another 20kg (44lbs).
@caen-un9cw
@caen-un9cw Жыл бұрын
180 with 20kg bar no?
@caen-un9cw
@caen-un9cw Жыл бұрын
and 220?
@illegitimate0
@illegitimate0 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure? It looked like 4 and 5 plates respectively, with an additional 15-30 lbs on the deadlift. So squatting 405, deadlift of 510 or 525.
@Inconsistense
@Inconsistense Жыл бұрын
I am sure I remember you trying the Skypad before and not being a fan, so it is kind of cool to see you revisit glass pads and stick to it for 30 days. I've got the Skypad 3.0 and Cerapad Kin, haven't tried the Pulsar yet because I'd heard if you have Skypad it's not hugely different; but kind of intrigued by it now. I think for me personally I found that my micro corrections when using say flatline/R301 long range on Apex were much better (I tend not to jitter aim because it just feels like it's going to mess my wrist up and I'd like to be able to play FPS for a long time to come) but I also found that my close range click timing (PK/Wingmang) was off but that is probably just my mouse control. One thing I did really like about glass pads is how unique/fun they feel to use. So many cloth pads these days just feel the same or are ever so slightly different. I think glass really challenges your aim too.
@boujeebaboon
@boujeebaboon Жыл бұрын
2:50 is the lore to why he is so jacked
@Maxxilopez92
@Maxxilopez92 Жыл бұрын
What I really like about you man! Just a cool, fit dude who plays and is good at games. A really good example for a lot of younger people. Videogames are nice, but go to the gym aswell! I am a fit and healty old 30 year old guy, who loves videogames aswell. So it's good that you show how important it is to be healty aswell! Your video editing is next level aswell
@arthurdr4w135
@arthurdr4w135 Жыл бұрын
Are we seeing the beggining of optimum lift? 3:06 great form btw
@swagmode420
@swagmode420 Жыл бұрын
Omg finally I saw Optimum LIFT WEIGHTS 🤩🤩🤩
@Collin_J
@Collin_J Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize your mouse was headed to production, cool as hell
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
it's probably just a shell. if it's under 20$ it's gonna be a massive success
@inatej
@inatej Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very interesting video. Top marks as always, sir! What's also interesting is why you chose to wear such a relaxed fit shirt and deprived your viewers of appreciating those Optimum Biceps. ;)
@lukas.im.
@lukas.im. Жыл бұрын
Dang, buddy is strong as hell, casually squating 405 🔥
@ChrisWilmshurst
@ChrisWilmshurst Жыл бұрын
I remember in the early 2000s a lot of my friends who I played Cs:source with played on a glass mouse pad, I always wondered why people stopped. Definitely considering trying one out, but I had no idea that they were so expensive!
@MelodyWarp
@MelodyWarp Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's an area that would be a sweet spot where you have low enough friction to not restrict input, but enough friction to help you *stop* moving. Physical mouse smoothing of a sort, where the tiniest inconsentencies get smoothed out. It makes sense that jitter would show up when friction gets low enough and I think the best solution is just... enough friction.
@Dizzeke
@Dizzeke 8 ай бұрын
I've had the skypad for like 2 years and still cant find anything to gain a little friction. need grippier harder feet maybe, or a heavier mouse who knows
@descai10
@descai10 Күн бұрын
​@@Dizzeke or a different pad
@Dizzeke
@Dizzeke 20 сағат бұрын
@@descai10 honestly i just started using the feet till theyre VERY worn down and they grip a bit better. corepadz ctrl grip decently when very worn out
@joanofarc3319
@joanofarc3319 Жыл бұрын
Received my glass superglide pad after watching this video, I've been loving it. I use no gloves seems fine for me, also required almost no adjustment.
@datdudeinred
@datdudeinred Жыл бұрын
2:43 "are you insane?" says the guy who made his own world's lightest mouse.
@mrmangoiii
@mrmangoiii Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the new finalmouse Ultralite review 😉
@Mefju23
@Mefju23 Жыл бұрын
so after all, will you stick with the glass pad? Are you actually better on it? (or predict to be better after like another 30 days of practice?) Would you say superglide pad is noticably more stable than skypad 3? I have the skypad 3 and I might consider the superglide one.
@Vaibistalnik
@Vaibistalnik 5 ай бұрын
Im late af to this, but i own a superglide pad and its perfect, not too fast, but still quick, and you can control your movement very easily
@danfg7215
@danfg7215 Жыл бұрын
I've been using a shin sleeve on my forearm for the longest time when playing games and even for regular computer use. It protects my skin from friction against the table and mousepad, and it's pretty easy to put on and off.
@nightismonochrome
@nightismonochrome Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, have you done an incline test for friction? It might be able to give more consistant values to compare, although the blow test was pretty cool. Basically, set the mouse on the pad and raise the mousepad from one of its edges. Have a level (some phones have a tool built in) and see at what degree does the mouse start to move. This only measures static friction between mouse and pad. Friction scales linearly so the weight of the mouse has no effect. The kinetic friction is always lower than the static friction so it gives you a general idea on that too.
@descai10
@descai10 Күн бұрын
static friction is the most important as well, high static friction is what causes that sticky feeling when trying to micro adjust
@korosoid
@korosoid Жыл бұрын
800k subs already. That was fast. Congrats.
@Santiago-lg3yt
@Santiago-lg3yt Жыл бұрын
You are my go to tech man for everythingg.
@itachiqt
@itachiqt Жыл бұрын
For tournament players always bring a soft pad to place under the hard pad. Helps with leveling out tables/desk setups where there can be inconsistency. Shout out to OGs users that remember the icemat days.
@descai10
@descai10 Күн бұрын
no issues with the pad digging into your arm with that?
@mattsoares608
@mattsoares608 Жыл бұрын
I've always played w/ a max weight G502 for years. I'm gonna give this a go. What I'm thinking is w/ the heaver weighted mouse + accuracy. Cool idea.
@marinealien705
@marinealien705 Жыл бұрын
def recommend from my experience and imo. me going from heavy mouse 108g or so with any hard mat, I aimed way better then now with a 60g mouse and a cloth mat. I couldn't put my finger on it until a bit later on why my aim got worse.
@oldfrend
@oldfrend Жыл бұрын
you're dead on. i play with a g502 on a textured metal corsair mouse mat. the heavier weight negates the micro jitters, while the low friction makes bigger movements so, so precise.
@gangrenesmith9999
@gangrenesmith9999 Жыл бұрын
Hope there are smaller pads. Those things are huge. Thanks for your channel, BTW. Really informative. 👍
@fluid8888
@fluid8888 Жыл бұрын
I think glass pads are a cool idea, and I sure some truly talented and practiced aimers can pull it off, but I think the slight amount of friction gained from a cloth pad give you better control and consistency in game. I also wonder if over time your mouse feet will become more worn down with a glass pad, but it seems that you didn't deal with that after 30 days so maybe its a non issue. Really appreciate your thorough review of these products because its really mirrors what my thought process and methodology would be if I were to buy something like this! :^)
@rauthe6842
@rauthe6842 Жыл бұрын
Feet still going strong after multiple months, barely any wear. Consistency of the pad is beautiful. Suits me to the ground. Skypad 3.0 XL
@Sl0wmoon_OW
@Sl0wmoon_OW Жыл бұрын
From my experience cordura pads have similar levels of friction and are more consistent in temperature changes. Glass also reveals if you have any sort of crumbs on your pad which is annoying
@Sl0wmoon_OW
@Sl0wmoon_OW Жыл бұрын
Id also recommend higher sens, its just generally better. Around 30 to 25 cm
@mortFPS
@mortFPS Жыл бұрын
I have cordura
@dg-dm1rr
@dg-dm1rr 3 ай бұрын
I think the issue is most of us here have probably been using cloth pads for almost 20 years (or more) I wonder if say in another 20 years the kids of today would have the same issues mentioned if they grow up using a glass pad
@superduperbob
@superduperbob 3 ай бұрын
glass mouse pads are laminated with plastic so its just plastic you are gliding on.
@descai10
@descai10 Күн бұрын
​@@superduperbob They're not laminated, they're etched, meaning they make little scratches in the surface to provide something for the sensor to read. It's all glass.
@superduperbob
@superduperbob 20 сағат бұрын
@@descai10 oh ok
@ZombieRommel
@ZombieRommel Жыл бұрын
I've been using a Skypad 3.0 since May of 2022. You really don't need a sleeve, but keeping the room cool or having a fan blow directly on you helps. Baseline skin friction isn't noticeable. Sweat is.
@sasukedark30
@sasukedark30 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait till an update video on the custom mouse
@MountleZz
@MountleZz Жыл бұрын
Same Most excited for that onr
@MountleZz
@MountleZz Жыл бұрын
One*
@AnthonyAdrianAcker
@AnthonyAdrianAcker 4 ай бұрын
I've been using a glass Steelseries pad a friend gave me a decade ago and it has been absolutely amazing. I love it.
@MooseMan
@MooseMan Жыл бұрын
skypad the OG? now listen here son. Let me tell you the story of the icemat. It came out in 2001 and was for a while the preferred pad for FPS gaming. Together with teflon pads for your mouse it was unparalleled. I do not know why people stoped using it but i can assure you that skypad is not the OG. Not even by a long shot.
@MooseMan
@MooseMan Жыл бұрын
For a while you could also get a textured plastic mat. was actually also quite good.
@taifabutalib5192
@taifabutalib5192 Ай бұрын
Ain’t no way bro is a retired powerlifter💀
@mauvais6196
@mauvais6196 Жыл бұрын
my alcohol stained anime deskpad keeps me in global so thatll do
@Kook4Life
@Kook4Life Жыл бұрын
duuude i know this is a tech channel but Im sure we'd all love to see some gym content!!
@DarkRRider
@DarkRRider Жыл бұрын
0:46 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH WTF !!!!
@TheLostO5
@TheLostO5 2 ай бұрын
thats the zero mouse
@jorgenbjorn
@jorgenbjorn Жыл бұрын
Wow blast from the past! We used glass with teflon under the mats in the past. I think Steelseries were really popular with a "Steelmat" series. I think it was in the early 2000s :D
@mfruity5
@mfruity5 Жыл бұрын
We need Optimum Gym content !
@user-md2iq9vb9z
@user-md2iq9vb9z Жыл бұрын
6:20 dude that mccree outplay was insane. blinked at the exact time he pulled his ult trigger.
@AntiEverythingg
@AntiEverythingg 11 ай бұрын
I switched to the Skypad 3.0 last week and it was one of the best upgrades I've ever done, I'm upset I was so late to it. Compared to my old cloth mouse pad the glide is soooo smooth making my tracking and flicks 100x better. For a fast sens wrist player like me, this was perfect. I'll NEVER EVERRRR go back to any other mouse pad
@Aeorthian
@Aeorthian Жыл бұрын
Hey @OptimumTech. I am happy to see you have added a scroll wheel to your custom mouse! I would be very interested in buying one as I am a light mouse glass pad enthusiast. Please keep us posted on the production of the mouse and where to buy one.
@mrcapucino
@mrcapucino Жыл бұрын
optimum tech is the only one do a review and actually play the games. so thats nice. not like any other reviewers that never play games. lel.
@RiFT1986
@RiFT1986 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this detailed video of your experience with glass mousepads, mate. This got me really curious as I've been a cloth mousepad user my entire life, and wanted to try a glass mousepad for something different. I purchased and have been using the L sized Pulsar Super Glide mousepad and Pulsar arm sleeve for 2 weeks now with a Logitech G Pro X Superlight. Early thoughts are that it definitely takes a little getting used to, especially if you're coming from a cloth pad with more control. Regularly cleaning dust from the mousepad is a must, otherwise it feels like sand gritting under the mouse and it's just awful. This was really annoying at first, but I'm kind of used to it now. I've experienced 2 spin outs from my mouse sensor, but thankfully in the Apex firing range and not a live game. Still, something to be wary of, at least with the G Pro Superlight. Maybe it had some light dust on it that I didn't realize, and I should quickly clean it with a microfiber cloth before every use. I use 800 dpi 1.8 sensitivity for Apex and 5 in Overwatch. Using this mousepad when it's clean does feel pretty nice for tracking. While it seems okay for tactical shooters like Valorant and CSGO, it's probably not ideal due to lower stopping power, and I would agree players focused on tactical shooters should get a cloth mousepad with more control. I could be wrong, but I don't think a single CSGO or Valorant pro uses a glass pad, and probably for good reason. I know of a few in Apex (i.e. Zer0), but that could just be a Skypad sponsorship thing idk. The idea of never having to buy another mousepad again as long as I clean and look after this Pulsar Super glide is somewhat appealing, but I'm not sure if this is for me long term yet, as I have mixed use cases and don't just play track heavy FPS games like Apex. I'll stick with it for at least 3 months as I'm not underperforming in games, and definitely need more time to get used to it. Give it a go if you've got the money to spare and want to try something different/fun, but don't' expect it to improve your game at all, especially not in the first several weeks.
@FullyChargedSRG
@FullyChargedSRG 7 ай бұрын
hey man I've found this comment super interesting as someone whose considering upgrading my mouse & pad setup as I get more into aim training and shooters like Apex on PC, (was a console player until a year or so ago and haven't gotten into the competitive side of games on pc till now). As this comment was several months ago now, I'd love to hear if you're still using the superglide and what progress you've made with it, both from a performance improvement and end user experience perspective.
@KutsuuG
@KutsuuG Жыл бұрын
What I've found with glass is that training with it regularly improves my mouse control when using my "competitive" cloth pads.
@884tomato
@884tomato Жыл бұрын
I swapped from softpad to hardpad and had a similar experience. I used it for 1 year and swapped back because I didn't feel comfortable with the sensitivity, it hurt my wrist and I had less place to move as there are no desk-wide hardpads. You can have the exact same settings on a mouse, as soon as you swap your surface, your sensitivity can change drastically.
@sandrovitalini1629
@sandrovitalini1629 Жыл бұрын
Pulsar has the XXL glass, which is 90cm wide
@Vlek
@Vlek 6 ай бұрын
3:15 also keeps your hands warmer! and as anyone with cold hands can confirm with me, theres no harder nerf to your skill than your frigid ice witch hands unable to stay warm lol
@kanz1287
@kanz1287 Жыл бұрын
Please do some deadlifts with 2 heavy PCs next video pls. GOATED tech channel as always.
@ryanlebowski4018
@ryanlebowski4018 10 ай бұрын
w song choice, love the production on the new pinkpanthress
@mazedmarky
@mazedmarky Жыл бұрын
Nice Video! By the way regarding the compression sleeves, I intuitively used one of my painting gloves for graphic tablets and it actually made a difference while playing, which was pretty cool :D
@mazedmarky
@mazedmarky Жыл бұрын
it basically serves as an Anchor Point
@mazedmarky
@mazedmarky Жыл бұрын
Would be cool if you could give some updates on the Mouse Wear on these Pads aka how often you would have to replace the Skates compared to using them on a Cloth. Keep it up
@PaulMCH
@PaulMCH 10 ай бұрын
Tracer movement 1:56, dude's handing out tech tips, informing you about the new tech products, and giving you game tips.
@christopherjarrett9067
@christopherjarrett9067 Жыл бұрын
I've got the XXL and XL size to coat the entire front part of my desk. I love it!
@ToastedTater420
@ToastedTater420 Жыл бұрын
So as a glass mousepad user, if you are experienced and feel like you are hitting a ceiling go ahead and get one, but it should not be your first mousepad. Having the cloth smooths out some of your inconsistency’s of aiming such as being jittery. After you get good with cloth pad Glass will help you build off of the basic skills and force you to master the fine details in your aim, it won’t come instantly and it takes time and practice to master but after you do you feel like can hit anything.
@korfenkeil
@korfenkeil Жыл бұрын
In the end it's all about physics. The coefficient of static friction should be as close as possible to the kinetic coefficient of friction, like in human joints for example. That way you don't have this breaking loose effect to throw you off. I personally use the glorious ice pad with ceramic skates
@Demon09-_-
@Demon09-_- Жыл бұрын
My biggest love for them is a spray of dirty cheap windex and a microfiber and it feels like day one. No more random slow spots over time or worn out dirty cloth pads.
@TiborMiklosAE
@TiborMiklosAE Жыл бұрын
I used to have a Steelseries hard pad for multiple years about 15 years ago. Abrasion has occurred over time in the areas where I moved the mouse frequently. It was more difficult to move the mouse in those areas. It felt slower. Imagine sliding on an ice sidewalk it's gonna be super smooth. Now try to do the same thing after Sidewalk Salt has been applied. You can still slide but it's gonna be much harder. I hope it makes sense. Another issue was the desk surface. It was okay on my computer desk but when I went to a LAN with my friends then it was a different story. I had to use a cloth pad to create a smooth surface and then I put the hard pad on the top. So I was using two mouse pads at the same time. Another thing was the friction. It wasn't super loud but it was noticeable.
@rafezetter8003
@rafezetter8003 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing with rubberised fingerless (just the tips) gloves and a neoprene compression fitting for padding my wrist for years. Bonus is no RSI because that's what an RSI wrist strap does. - also helps to keep my fingers warmer in colder months so they don't get stiff after long sessions either. With rubberised gloves (basic fabric work gloves with the palms and fingers rubberised) using a Hotas style joystick there's also much less need to grip hard to maintain hand placement. Win all round.
@willhelterbrand3785
@willhelterbrand3785 Жыл бұрын
fire content as always :)
@chanm01
@chanm01 Жыл бұрын
Dope. Now all I need is a glass mousepad + special video gaming fingerless gloves to go with the free mouse that was packed into the prebuilt I bought 15 years ago, and I'll finally be ready to take on ranked.
@GorgonJob
@GorgonJob Жыл бұрын
As a compression sleeve user for more than n a year now, I just can play without it. In Brazil, we have a very hot and humid climate, so you start sweating, and in my case, the cloth of the mousepad starts to get a little wet, and you have an inconsistency os speed. With the sleeves, both glass or cloth, will be a more "stable" feeling. And helped me to improve on aim. When I didn't have, I was plat 1 on Valorant, now I'm Diamond 3. There is some cheap ones you can try, I recommend
@MumrikDK
@MumrikDK Жыл бұрын
The friction noise is what killed them for me when they first were a thing many years ago. Constant noise when moving the mouse, and it seems to be there here too with everything but the glass pads on glass mat.
@youngskunk
@youngskunk 7 ай бұрын
God damn i could tell you had gains but the deadlift shocked me good on ya m8
@WallahNein
@WallahNein 5 ай бұрын
I've been playing with a 100 gram sensei and a razer goliathus control for over 10 years and now coming back to the market is just insane. I feel like in a year people will move just their hand over a air hockey table and say "too heavy, too much stopping force"
@ceo_lidl961
@ceo_lidl961 3 ай бұрын
I've tried multiple mousepads before but what I found best was using the flat wood tabletop of my desk and an arm sleeve. its very smooth and comfortable and if I need more slick movement I can just polish my desk
@skizzarz
@skizzarz Жыл бұрын
appreciate your info on the subject!
@slurplace
@slurplace 3 ай бұрын
I think that sleeve looks sick af. Does give some badass ninja vibes.
@janvollgod7221
@janvollgod7221 Жыл бұрын
i bought one on amazon and tried it for a week. My old one was a corsair mouse pad out of aluminum. It has two different surfaces, one side slow and the other superfast. Both side have some friction, give me the feeling i move the mouse against some kind of resistance. The Glass Pad on the other side, has absolute no friction. And no matter how hard i tried to like it, it just not worked out for me in any fps game. It is fast, but it also glides out of position when i try to aim. I must use more pressure to hold the mouse on this spot when in firing situation. It's hard to describe. At the end of the day, i switched back to my old corsair alu pad and gave this glass pad away
@Desenrad
@Desenrad Жыл бұрын
5 or so years ago I cut a large sheet of aluminum to size, rounded the edges and painted it. Best mouse pad I have ever used. It’s super easy to repair when paint wares out.
@gabrielwildman
@gabrielwildman Жыл бұрын
5:09 that ignores the main reason most people switch to glass mouse pads, their cloth pads get worn out or dirty and they want something that lasts longer and is easier to clean
@sirsnipesldr
@sirsnipesldr Жыл бұрын
I would watch Optimum Tech lifting content
@Maned_X
@Maned_X Жыл бұрын
I swapped over with the release of pulsars Superglide glass pad. It def took a bit to get used to it, but man oh man, once you get the feeling and hang of glass pads down, it just becomes like cheating. It’s sooooo worth it to put the time in. One other thing I will say is that I don’t really ever get the skin sticking to the glass to where I need a sleeve unless it gets real hot. For the most part since I’ve got super hairy arms it doesn’t bother me. But to each their own on that front
@Thiswayisyours
@Thiswayisyours Жыл бұрын
Ahh the good old days of using Icemat while playing Counter-strike in my teens. This was 20 years ago and man does this make me feel old..
@progz5232
@progz5232 Жыл бұрын
I have always wore a hoody when playing PC games. I just cannot slide my arm good enough without one. It helps so much. Surprised Optimum Tech did not just suggest that.
@theartofcompetition5965
@theartofcompetition5965 Жыл бұрын
I HAVE MAINED GLASS PADS FOREVER. I love the glass pads for sniping because you use your fingers and hands to get an amazing feel for small adjustments. but close quarters are rough because your hand sweats and sticks. The sleeve helps with removing this aspect from your arm but it still exists in other parts of your hand. another reason glass pads aren't good is the oils in your hand is constantly changing the slide on the glass. I recently made the switch to pads and am having greater success in close quarter battles.
The best mousepad I've ever used.
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