FF7R - EASY WAY to defeat THREE-PERSON TEAM VS TOP SECRETS

All explained in the vid with commentary, this is my BEGINNER'S GUIDE in Final Fantasy 7 Remake on how to defeat the Chapter 17 Shinra Combat Simulator Three-Person Team VS Top Secrets on HARD mode easily!
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[@LeafDew]

You've clearly helped a lot of people with your FFVII guides, they are well done and accessible. I personally did not want to bother learning the game again to beat the 'Pride and Joy' combat simulator. Your set-up and stagger sequences are not only easy to understand, they helped me quickly re-learn this battle system after three years of not touching the game. Well done!

[@mrowcp]

looks like you stole my comment man... This channel is the only reason that I believe that I can beat the HARD mode .. 😊

[@Optinooby]

Thank you for the extra support. Are you a new member as I need to get you added to the intro/outtro if so.?

[@mrowcp]

​@@Optinooby yeah I'm a new one here :) Your tips help me a lot so I wanted to support you in some way... :)

[@nicholasbearden8165]

I dunno. I am not getting the same results here. I’ve gotten both magic up on each of them but I’m running out of mana and getting blasted with Bahamut. Thanks for the guide but it’s not working for me

[@benst.hilaire8695]

Finally cleared it! Thank you so much! I'd tried several other "easy" guides and never could make it past Bahamut. This one was a close call (kept missing my arcane ward just long enough for Bahamut to escape from stun lock), and then didn't manage to stay behind P & J with Tifa for that first beam cannon, but fortunately the Thundara on the leg strategy can be adapted for just Cloud and Aerith if you're quick enough on the trigger.

[@2Negativecool]

Holy shit. Your guide got me through this on my FIRST try! I'm not even very good, and hard mode has been a huge headache for me and I really didn't think I could do this. I thought I would be practicing/dying/repeat until I finally got it..or gave up; but once I beat Leviathan I started thinking I had a chance. Bahamut summoned Ifrit just as I was getting off my last focused strike/combo to take Bahamut down. Luckily, knowing I'm not very good, knew that would probably happen and put elemental + fire in my armor (as you suggested) and the Ifrit fight gave me back quite a bit of HP back as a result :). Oddly, the hardest part for me is switching to control the character I intend to control. Tip for noobs, since timing is very important in these fights, as soon as I got another team member ATB while using Tifa - I paused the game and thought out which D-pad direction (L or R?) I'd have to push to get to the intended character - otherwise I usually fumble about and lose really important time. I paused the game and this guide quite often to make sure I understood the next step and the next, etc. I really can't thank you enough. You deserve more likes/subscribes for sure.

[@novaguy81]

Another outstanding video! One thing that can't be undersold is the importance of the fury rings. I tried this challenge with and without fury rings (to compare) and it makes a huge difference on the amount of damage dealt and how quickly you stagger enemies.

[@Optinooby]

Best accessory after Gotterdammerung, think Fury Ring gives like 33% more damage to all types (Mag+Str), improves dmg taken too, but if u have a plan, that's not a big problem

[@davefarris1255]

Holy cow, thank you so much for these guides. I tried this a year or so ago and couldn’t get the whole timing of the focus strike ap assist for Tifa so I gave up. Just started playing again and decided I would just start on easy mode through the game specifically to practice this pattern, and it’s a game breaker once you get it down. I went in with the recommended setup plus some extra materia help (gave everyone revive) and it still didn’t go according to plan (leviathan was awful and I had to tangle with both Bahamut and Ifrit, and both cloud and Aerith ran out of MP that fight) but whenever I had a chance I did my best to stick back with the original plan. Managed to just squeak out a win in the end.

[@joshuabennett3430]

It took me over a day, but I finally did it! I honestly don’t think I would have ever gotten past Bahamut without your help and I breezed Pride & Joy - Thank you so much do the step by step. Awesome video 👍

[@lordshavron]

Oh my goodness I've been struggling on this for ages. Your guide beats the heck out of every other one I've seen. Thank you so much! Just need to clear the last two chapters on hard and the platinum will now be mine!

[@Optinooby]

I have another version of this which is a cleaner method with slight variations btw, and if you need any easy guides for future hard boss fights, you should find them all here! Though the Jenova Dreamweaver boss is only boss where the fight is kinda messy, I just couldnt figure out a clean strategy for that one, so its a case of healing and using certain attacks

[@lordshavron]

@@Optinooby Good to know. I'll have yo check them out if I get stuck somewhere.

[@lordshavron]

​@@Optinooby And I just got my platinum! Seriously, your videos made those last two chapters so much easier than I expected. Hell, it was probably easier than my initial playthrough on normal. Thank you so much!

[@starkiller4557]

This guide is still just as useful as it was 2 years ago. I decided to come back for the platinum medal and complete the play log in this game after rebirth, and I now have the hardest enemy to asses and the hardest trophy to earn under my belt. I’m about to have 100% completion in both remake and rebirth thanks to you, king 👑

[@robertspicyweiner4770]

Finally a real strategy! Most videos only alude to having a strategy but they only show edited clips and yours shows in detail the specific movements. Awesome video!

[@Optinooby]

I have another version of this mate which is a lot cleaner, if you enjoy this one, will likely enjoy that 1 even more kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaSkk35qgtStr9k

[@VanitasvisaviJSD]

Saw this last night. Today I tried twice then watched again and took notes, then succeeded on my next attempt. 2 years ago when the game first came out I was unable to complete this challenge in spite of great effort. Thank you for the guide!

[@obscurity3027]

Dude thank you so much for this. I’ve been struggling to clear these last two hard mode challenges, and your videos helped me tremendously. You’re a legend!

[@stevenc1900]

I usually never subscribe to people but after following your guides, I was able to finally platinum FF7 Remake. Thank you for your easy to understand guides. I have subscribed to your channel and I will be using you for other games as well.

[@Optinooby]

Appreciate that, welcome to the channel 🙂

[@rubenvanoppen6578]

Thank you very much for this video. Got to chapter 17 hard mode on my own, but didn't get past the last arsenal boss. Decided to go for götterdämmerung but couldn't get past this challenge. Following your vid on a separate screen, I made it first try. Thank you so much for your contribution to the community. Respect!

[@joonbyun385]

Amazing guide!! After couple tries, I was able to breeze through the whole challenge. Thank you so much and what an amazing game. Just shows how deep the gameplay is. This is the greatest game of all time and can't wait for Rebirth!! ❤

[@beatsandmel0dy]

Thanks again Optinoob! Btw, most of my battles, despite my setup being close to yours (I think my MP up on Cloud was only level 3) kind of devolved after the first stagger and I was really having issues at Bahamut, particular not being able to get him down at stagger. The last time that i completed this, he called Ifrit without even doing Umbral Strikes! BUT I put fire absorb on both Tifa and Cloud. When Ifrit was out, I realized I could beat on him with Tifa and use the ATB fill for Aerith and Cloud to cast magic on Bahamut. I actually ended up killing Bahamut first and Tifa went down, so I used Cloud to keep Ifrit facing away from Aerith and getting healed. Then, on P&J, I immediately took Tifa behind him and he still turned around and 1 shotted her. So I had to manually toggle between Aerith and Cloud to keep them in the Arcane Ward and use Thundara which was enough. Cloud quickly ran out of MP so kept hitting with focused thrust. Double Thundara was enough to keep P&J stunlocked until death. Phew!!

[@reszzz]

Finally did it. Took about 20 tries. I was about to give up on the game. Watched your video a dozen times and each section before each fight. Helped a lot. Especially against Pride. Thank you!!!!

[@sleptyl]

Thank you so much for this guide!! You really helped me out with the combat sim and I got platinum finally 😭🙏 THANK YOU

[@ryanclark6887]

Man I didn't have any trouble with pride and joy on the PS4 version but for some reason he wiped the floor with me countless times on PS5. Finally beat him with this guide. Thanks man!

[@patg4670]

I slapped tifa with a healing and revival materia incase shit got messy which it did :P. I failed to stagger leviathan, he quickly took down aerith, and got me low, but I got her back up and healed, and kept going. Bahamut gave me no issues, and neither did the final battle! I also healed a tiny bit on final battle with tifa, and had a first strike materia on her to start the battle off with one gauge. Fury rings are a must, I went back and collected 3 in ch14. Once again another flawless guide, it took me two tries only cause I messed up first battle and had to reset!

[@michaelgodfrey5745]

6 days I tried this and always failed, the battles dragged on no matter what Materia I tried, then I found this guide. I had so much doubt when I saw not even all slots filled, lowest def armor on, no heals and no raises. I was like this guy is off his rocker. This, was the most simple fight when you actually cast in the same manor you show. The enemy doesn’t get a chance to move. I finally beat it. Thank you so much!

[@Optinooby]

My other guide for this has even less of a build ;)

[@Foremost-time]

thank you so much, dude. I’ve been stuck on this for entire day.😁

[@ssharif0402]

Your guides have been helping me so much as I go for the platinum trophy before Rebirth comes out! It took me 5 attempts but I was finally able to beat this challenge today!

[@Nicky297x]

cannot thank you enough for this guide 😭 i never ever thought i’d beat this after a few goes of trying and failing miserably. i went back and grinded all my materia, gathered the extra fury rings and following your guide (admittedly i kept pausing to refer back but still), i completed it first try SO easily and even went and completed it a second time straight after as i forgot to assess pride and joy prototype 🤦🏼‍♀️ amazing guide, couldn’t have done it otherwise 💛

[@Optinooby]

Wow, that's awesome back, from zero to twice back to back!! Glad to assist.

[@chrisread2895]

@@Optinooby I second this ... I still wipe on Bahamut ... just grinded and got all fury rings ... came back and wiped on Shiva lol ... Im 52 ... played the original in '97 (fave ever game) ... seems my brain isn't what it was heheh ... playing on PC/Intergrade so I have Serphetic Earings ... I thought Fury only works on physical damage ... but anyways ... Im loving every moment and your guides are the best I've come across ... just chaps 17 & 18 left on hard thanks to you ... massive thx, cos without an official guide, this game is tough for an old timer that is used to turn-based combat ... you have literally been the difference between me enjoying the game and not ... so much thx from an old-timer! :) x

[@chrisread2895]

JUST completed this ... by pausing every 10 seconds and following your every move ... ended with only cloud alive ... patience is the key ... prob 7th attempt ... thankyou Opti ... THANKYOU :)

[@chrisread2895]

Love to you too Nicola :) You show appreciation and love ... respect! :) x

[@cru5h0n3]

@@chrisread2895 dude stop saying you are an old timer - you're only 52 (maybe 53 by now)

[@Succi17]

Thank you so much for this guide. Even with the help this took me like 50 attempts (Probably because I did it before Hard Mode and didn't fully level the magic up materia). The first time I got to the Pride and Joy, my heart sank because I failed to dodge the laser and lost Tifa; Luckily the Pride and Joy was so easy that I was able to beat it just by switching between cloud and Aerith and manually building ATB.

[@azza8099]

Huge thanks for the guides, they've been so helpful, I've used a guide for this and almost every boss except the early game ones 👍 didnt quite beat bahamut before ifrit was summoned but because of the fire-elemental armor it was a cake walk, it actually just helped me heal up before the P&J 😂

[@mickeyphree]

Earned my sub and like. Video is straight forward and to the point, while providing a winning strategy. Good job.

[@ConeDefense]

Perfect video. I did throw Elem-Fire on Aerith/Tifa in case of Ifrit, which worked perfect for me. Otherwise this is the only successful video I found (worked first time)

[@CyberMetalhead]

Thanks alot, watched the guide, took some notes, went into it and got it done on my first attempt. Didnt manage to stop Ifrit, but because tifa was using fire protection it was a breezer. Last boss was braindead following your starts. Big thank you, great Teacher!

[@Optinooby]

I love stunlock strategies as they remove most the problem ;)

[@nunndato_]

I gotta thank you for this guide man! I've been on the road to 100% this game and this was one of the BIG obstacles in my progression, let alone this being arguably one the hardest thing's I've come across in a game so far lol. But with a little improv on Pride and Joy, as I ran out of MP, I managed to pull through!! :D A very thorough and concise guide, thank you :)

[@scottishfeller]

One year on from my last comment, I gave this another try. Did it first time. It helped I learned I could reset things chosen in weapon cores. This video was a massive help. Followed it down to the very last attack. I thank you good sir.

[@Arc_Viper]

Finally! With your guide I was able to do it! Your strategy with bahamut was SO much easier to follow than other guides that for some reason wanted to stagger bahamut. THANK YOU

[@NewFoundTerror]

Thank you so much for this video. I was able to finish this whole fight in about an hour once I learned all the patterns for each enemy. The platinum is actually looking obtainable for me. Here we go with hard mode. Got you saved and subbed for hard mode bot fights!!

[@boydbenjaminjr3688]

gotta say i usually don't comment, but thanks to your vid i beat pride and joy the 1st(and only lol nfk) time i fought him so mad props(i wasn't as lucky to stagger bind bahamut and ran into his good ole buddy Ifrit) and tyvm for sharing the knowledge

[@MichaelEntwistle]

Just completed it today thanks to your guide! I'm really surprised at just how powerful Fury Rings are, having all three equipped makes the difference is staggering each boss.

[@nonny_elder_gamer]

After two years this still work. Of all guide out there your the one that very clear with step by step guide. Just back for Plat and your vids help me many time. Now only finish a hard mode then plat. Thanks a lot!!

[@amaturemenace]

Wow. You just saved me hours possibly DAYS worth of trying on my own ONCE AGAIN. your combat sim guides for rebirth had me coming back when I replayed this one. Thank you for your service sir. Looking forward to returning for part 3 remake ❤

[@mofodm]

Best guide for this mission on the Internet! I’ve tried several but most depend on luck, or even if I follow them exactly they don’t work. Should have done it first time but I got Tifa KOd by P&J’s beam cannon a couple of times. If you make sure you have over 6000HP on Tifa you can survive it.

[@Optinooby]

If you like this, you will sure like my other version. I made 2, the other is much cleaner and a little more minimalistic

[@mofodm]

@@Optinooby too late now man I already cleared it! Thanks so much! Really saved me a ton of time.

[@SkotKozB5]

Seeing a lot of positive comments. Watched some of your other guides to get to this point and was very satisfied. Going for the platinum before Rebirth so any good and FACTUAL guides I can get my hands on are great. Will be using this in about 5 minutes but I gotta mentally prepare myself lol.

[@Do7a1337]

Thanks bro, Finally got the platinum trophy. after trying few times this is the best guide to beat Bahamut. Like you mentioned there is no room for error for this to work lol

[@Maraaass]

Thank you for the guide! I beat it a month ago on FF7RIntergrade version but now was looking for again on more safe strategy. Your strat is very impressive especially with how you did it with such little materia so it would be possible for all players. I failed with Bahamut and did too much dmg on him so he summoned Ifrit, but I equipped Cloud with maxed Elemental+Fire on armor so Ifrit's attacks were healing him. Honestly I remember struggling with this challenge but now it was almost too quick. Thank you, very nice guide for all kinds of players.

[@Thelgow]

Thank you sir! I already had platinum back on PS4 release but replaying on PC and looking to speed through and all the other guides fall apart at Leviathan or Bahamut. I held off on spamming Bahamut near the end around 2% hp to not waste mana but he summoned Ifrit. No big deal as I put fire/elemental just in case with all the empty slots your build had too.

[@DukeAB]

The most helpful guide out there 100 % 💪🏾🙏🏿

[@henrywalker1153]

Thankyou so much. After struggling for ages I’ve finally done it. You sir are a genius ❤

[@NullSp3ctre]

Just cleared this on the 2nd try. Couldn't get the timing with Bahamut right so added Elemental + Fire Materia to armor for Cloud and Aerith. Didn't have to worry about Ifrit anymore. Kudos to you sir, great guide!

[@lotusroot4087]

i just killed this on my 2nd try without using any guides, but damn u kill it a lot faster

[@wolf-marks9353]

I've watched a lot of videos and none have worked. I'm going to give this guide a chance

[@priteshpatel8273]

Got to be quick with it sometimes but this guide makes it very manageable.

[@Daniel-San-Kenobi]

Thank you soooo much. I didn't even struggle through hard mode until I faced that Bahamut fight. It took lot's of timing ( and Carbuncle saving me vs Bahamut ) but your guide finally helped me beat this epic battle. Hopefully Weiss will be easier lol. Thanks again bro

[@loki1984siemce]

THANK YOU! This guide worked for me perfectly and I hope it will get more views. I tried other more popular ones, but actually I was able to beat it with yours! Thanks again!

[@mijulee6783]

Thanks to your guided with hardmode I finally after long last beat the game that final chapter I was struggling with,I'm so glad you mentioned that ither guides don't always work as I found that out when I tried following guides how to beat this one qnd at shiva and leviathan they don't always go in the direction or do the same things other guides claim they should do ,Thank you again for down to earth clear concise info a lot of us were lacking that and with rebirth around the corner I'm sure you will set us all straight with that also

[@xStanyyx]

Cant believe I have done this finally after 2 years of a break. As always is you my guy. What the hell would I do without you ❤

[@krayziethomas9111]

Man. Thanks. I finally got it. Somehow he summoned ifrit but he died as he did. Then, pride n joy killed Tifa right away and had to 2 man him with no mp on cloud. Kept him stunned with just arieth and thundara (lvl2) but it was your guide that got me there. So thanks mate.

[@HaidaNim]

Thank you, I was able to mostly follow the guide up til Bahamut when he summon Ifrit, but I managed to win with no mp lmao. Then Pride and Joy because all mp was gone, i just yolod and managed to win barely. Felt so good.

[@adlinajay9953]

Yasssss!!! Got this!! Took a couple of times at least 8 to get past leviathan and understood her. Then I rest mode my ps5, sleep while really studying this guide, attempt this morning, pass both bahamut and pride and joy first try! I did summon ifrit but I already equipped elemental fire on both cloud and tifa so thank God! 😂

[@Hayleylconnor]

Thank you so much I just completed this!! Realised half way through I forgot access though 😂

[@barry951]

Tried this for hours without any luck. Watched your video and got it first time, was shaking near the end of Bahamut!! Thank you so much, you get a like and subscribe

[@DividedSky83]

Awesome, thanks dude! I never thought I would beat it. Took a good many tries for me to get it down especially Bahamut. Pride and Joy knocked Tifa out right away and I decided to just go for it alternating Cloud and Aerith building ATB then hitting it with a Thundara, two Thundara stunned it then I was able to keep doing that sequence repeatedly on one leg and eventually beat it!

[@VItasichka]

Dude, thank you so much. I watched alot of guides and yours was the best one. Followed it every step and beat him on the first try using your guide. Followed the other guides and couldnt get past Bahamut. Thank you!

[@briandavis2183]

After about 20 times replaying I finally beat this! Things didn't go perfect with Bahamut. He was almost dead summoned Ifrit but I just kept up the pressure and made it through! Thanks for making this guide.

[@louisegibson3100]

Oh my god I've finally done it after using your guide! 😁 I used a mix of this one and your other minimal build one. Leviathan I spent ages on, but was able to sail through bahamut and pride and joy first go with this guide 😁 Thank you!!

[@user-mv1xn6yy5f]

Thank you,man, this guide is only one, that really works

[@Optinooby]

What about my other Top Secrets guide XD

[@supersaiyanzero386]

For now I'm gonna memorize and master the first three so I never fail that way I can get to bahamut in about 2 mins, keep trying and then get that, once it's all done i can quickly get to the last guy. First two are a shaky 1 min 1 second. To preserve the strats(I'll come back to edit) Shiva, fire with Cloud and Aerith Slide over build one ATB Use stop while she's pressured Focus strike to full ATB Stop again Cast firaga with cloud and Aerith *Sloppy method but makes sure that she doesn't run kill with any stupid moves in the beginning Fat choco: Cloud firaga with arcane ward Or firaga cloud blizzaga Aerith Few hits Truex2 All out with spells or ray of judgement and braver while spamming triangle to get that true strike x2 again, finish with braver/ray/whatever Far as I am now, but I'd rather have it down and be confident than go in shaky (Editing as I go)

[@brendand1543]

If anyone was stuck on Bahamut like I was I have some advice for Ifrit and beyond. Once ifrit is spawned, focus him down while avoiding Bahamut as much as possible. Do not worry too much about rushing Bahamut to death if you're too weak to keep him in a stun lock, use manawall to survive the megaflare then the fight basically resets. Much more manageable with Ifrit gone and the countdown reset.

[@Maraaass]

Also to add to that: since Optinoob didn't equip all slots with materia, it leaves you some slots to add your own if you want (MP up, HP up, Magic up, etc.) but you can equip up to 2 characters with either 2 star or best maxed out Elemental+Fire on their armor (bangle) and it will either make them absorb all the fire damage or all Ifrit attacks will heal them (if mastered). Then just cast attack spells on Bahamut to finish him off while the one character can keep Ifrit occupied.

[@ryanhorvath6718]

A massive thank you for this guide! After trying many others' this one worked for me. Having only one fury ring that I put on Tifa made it slightly harder than it should've been, and had to do a few runs before nailing it. The elemental fire in defense worked wonders for me as Bahamut summoned ifrit which allowed me to restore health and also MP for aerith using her ability which came in useful for Pride and Joy as Cloud ran out of MP few the last few rounds. Thanks again!

[@icephoenix_sa]

Thank you so much for this guide! Decided to try to finish the plat before rebirth comes out and this got me through what I expected to be the hardest part faster than some of the chapters have been

[@SpdrCp]

ay man can u help through share play if possible?

[@joeradloff6526]

This was an absolutely incredible breakdown. Easy to follow steps. also... ATB assist is insane, how have i not used this like at all before. I tried following a "normal" guide for these fights but holy hell speedrunning them with tifa is the way to do it. incredibly easier (i know it probably wasnt easy coming up with the strat, but you laid it out so well it took me one attempt pausing between fights and watching your guide)

[@Darkmuffin9827]

Just wanted to say huge thanks for this guide. I tried a couple others and could barely get past Leviathan. Although there were some touch and go spots (Bahamut almost KO'd the party when I forgot I didn't put Elemental+Fire on Cloud's armor and nearly running out of mana for the Pride and Joy fight) I managed to beat it on the first try. Thanks so much!

[@Optinooby]

First try, great job mate, you join the club only few heroes can join ;)

[@Darkmuffin9827]

@@Optinooby Naturally I forgot to scan Ifrit though so I had to make my way back, but it was quicker this time, and if I didn't have to scan, it would have been a clean sweep! Again, thanks so much and keep making these videos! You rock!

[@willgriffin2340]

Ditto, I was following a similar guide re strategy but much stricter with materia requirements and I couldn't get it to work. This, with Tifa generating constant ATB with ATB assist works much better and is MUCH simpler and easier to pull off. I could even add a Revive materia and thank god I did, cos I messed up and died immediately on Pride and Joy but was able to rez Tifa. Did it first time. Thanks a million!!

[@Optinooby]

First time, wow, very well done sir, you deserve a Gotterdammerung!! Btw, if you have the PS5 DLC, you can get 2 more!!!

[@FapDotExe]

Once again, great strats. I opted to link Aerith’s fire with synergy for some extra damage. This made me shit my pants because I accidentally dealt too much to Bahamut, and he summoned Ifrit. I had elemental slotted to fire on Tifa and cloud so all that boy did was heal me and he went down quick with some starshowers and a ray of judgement. I also ended up staggering Pride and Joy and was like uhhh what do I do, so I just gave him some true strikes and a level 3 Thunder from cloud and Aerith to end it first try. 4:21 on monsters of legend, and 4:22 on Top secrets thanks to you homie. Appreciate the guides, and for opening my eyes to Tifa, she’s the absolute GOAT 🐐

[@FapDotExe]

Didn’t mean for those time stamps to be there, those are just my completion times ^^

[@Optinooby]

i have another video for this by the way, much cleaner ;)

[@BrandonHeat1985]

You genius! Despite having done this on PS4, I since couldn't on ps5 so just have fluked it but this method worked except i couldn't avoid irritating spawning lol

[@cristianmerino5085]

I was finally able to complete this challenge thanks to you! I just now have to beat the game on Hard and I’ll unlock the platinum. Thank you for the amazing guide!

[@3PercentNinja]

After many tries! And watching others, yours is the the one that allowed me to win!! Thanks for the guide man! 🙏 that was so frustrating!! Lol

[@supersaiyanzero386]

Omg i did it. I actually had him summon ifrit who lingered after bahamut died so i thought i was cooked but a blizzaga knocked him to like 20 percent. Small break and Weiss, with the most cheese possible My only regret is that we don't get that endgame in these games, that insane blast to bits combo thing like in the original (W Summon, mime type thing for super bosses), where if we just do a lot of grinding we can be stronger but I guess that's the arpg direction. Thanks for the vid it showed me that i could kill in one stagger phase. And im glad i got pride and joy stunlocked with just Aerith. Im worried about the FInal part taking away the moderate amount of cheese we have so far, but who knows. On to the anime character fight in the sim. (From what ive seen it's dodge attack dodge but its a lot easier to see it done. Wish me luck on that)

[@Late_tothe_GAME]

My god. So, third try and I did it thanks to this. I even let Ifrit out so I could get the assess. Honestly, amazing. Thank you

[@Optinooby]

You know you have mastered it when you have to 'allow' him to spawn xD

[@josvdbersselaar3518]

I managed to do it. You are now officially my best friend. It got a bit messy against Bahamut but in the end it helped me because it gave me the chance to siphon some needed MP from Ifrit. Great video(s)!

[@Penxx]

Amazing guide that leave us a little bit of freedom on materia setup. Took me a couple tries since Bahamat was cosplaying Yuna with Ifirit... Now it's done and let's do Weiss! Thanks!!

[@Optinooby]

my newer guide gives u even more freedom mate as i tried to strategise that one around doing Top Secrets straight after normal story

[@insomniaddictesp]

This guide has been really helpful, thanks. I have beaten this before, got the game on PC and playing through it again, feels like ten times harder, enemies act so unpredictably, one change and it will ruin a whole run. I'm almost at the point of just playing to outlast instead. So annoying, but these strats are super strong.

[@Optinooby]

Try my other Top Secrets guide, it's a lot cleaner

[@insomniaddictesp]

@@Optinooby thanks, I was able to get it. could never get weiss and watched your other guide, it's just way more clear than other guides i watched in the past.

[@patrickjcollett]

Well i gotta say a big "THANK YOU" .. i had to adept alittle with my playstyle but 95% was from your guide.. Now to finish chapter 17 and 18 in hard mode..

[@xluisadrianx1891]

Great guide. First tried it following along. I just paused in game every few attack strings you said and it worked out. Leviathan was a little random at the start but it still worked out.

[@Crescentarcher]

I just finished it! As soon as I got Bahamut down, Pride and Joy was easy. Thanks so much!

[@santidelgado8838]

Bro!!!, Thanks a lot, about 1 month to get this achievement. So easy this guide. I finally get it, at second try, nice guide mate. Platinum!!!

[@changuk_biased2010]

I can’t thank you enough for this guide! I went from doing okay to terrible to omg I did it! Took me twice your time but at least I only had to retry about 10 times and not 20 xD

[@thesovereignspark]

Lol, Holy shit, i was kinda worried but i got it on the first try, just pausing, watching what you did and then copying. I only slipped up on Fat Chocobo & Leviathan. I let Chocobo come out of Stagger with a sliver of health and he knocked 2 party members to half health making the next round risky. Leviathan then used a stunning attack and knocked out Tifa but spamming Thunder with Arcane Ward like the Pride and Joy part was enough to finish him off easily. Then Bahamut and Pride and Joy were very easy. Thank you for this. 2 more chapters till Platinum.

[@thesovereignspark]

I think i also got lucky with Pride and Joy. My Arcane Ward was next to him, So Cloud and Aerith never left it lol.

[@AlfredoEscalante]

Finallyyyy I did it! Thanks for the guide!

[@AlisterBarnes]

Just wanted to say a massive thanks! I looked at quite a few guides and this strategy was perfect. Did it second try.

[@DAonYT]

Thank you for this. Had a few scary moments (Bahamut summoning Ifrit at 1% HP, Pride and Joy taking out Cloud and Aerith in a single attack and having to solo as Tifa) but I got this on my first try!!

[@gregorybishop4761]

Fantastic guide! I was struggling even when I did your strats well, but I had only picked up one fury ring during my playthrough - definitely need everyone equipped with it as you did, so I went back to Chapter 14 a couple of times to fix that. I also needed to redo my weapon upgrades for Tifa, since I had picked several magic upgrades, which is pretty much useless for this fight. I got my stats to match yours, and after doing that I beat the challenge on my 2nd try. Thank you!

[@Optinooby]

Well done mate, it all matters, especially when trying to be efficient with your actions. I did do another guide for this afterwards, it's a little cleaner and I tailored it more to be used straight after finishing 1st playthrough. I never use Tifa for magic now, she us useless. Only time she will ever cast is if she us on support like with barrier or somet or for the knockdown dmg, like she does in my Weiss fight

[@oexnorth]

The last boss is laughably easy. The first time I fought him I lost Tifa immediately by getting hit by his ray blast. I literally just took turns with Cloud and Aerith building ATP and casting thundara from the arcane ward. As soon as Tifa went down I thought it was over. Turns out all you need are two spell casters.

[@RafaelBelvederese]

Got it on 2nd try. For anyone still struggling: the key is *timing* and you gotta be *fast* . You use Tifa to fill ATB gauges, magic to *interrupt* their attacks, then repeat. If you are just a second slow, they won't get interrupted and you'll miss the window to put them on pressure. This strategy has little to no room for error.

[@Optinooby]

Had you checked out my other Top Secrets in the playlist, it's a little more specific and explained and aimed at a build before hard mode. Yea, u do need to be spot on with this, I think any method needs you to be

[@Bmwaheed]

Another great guide man, although I did run out of MP halfway through Pride and Joy lol, still got him though. Working on all chapters on hard now

[@arez0769]

Thank you very much, I was stuck like 3 weeks everytime I get to last boss I always run out of mana but now I can continue with rebirth much appreciated.

[@ctn6982]

thanks for this guide. I messed up a bit both on fight 4 and 5, but still won, thhis guide is so good it leaves rooms for mistakes

[@zpmad7873]

OMGGGGGGG FINALLYYY THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Im crying!! I should relax my self now... :DDDD

[@RodrigoAndresGuerra]

I can't believe I beat it. I was trying my own and similar strategies, then came here (knowing I should have come first place), decided to try once to warm up until I got it (I was having a hard time making Shiva work) and once I got here I got all (Ifrit was summoned since I'm not as good a player as you, but those tips for element fire and using my own Arise made it happen). You are truly the best. I hope to find more videos of other FF from you, and I already know I will for Rebith once it comes to PC.

[@JOYINIT]

Thanks man I just get the platinum because of your video ❤

[@mattmills97]

After nearly three weeks of trying different strategies and set ups, I finally got it done. I nearly threw my controller in excitement lol

[@ninadtagde]

Thanks a lot for your guide. Been following your guides for some bosses and stumbled upon this. Did this after grinding materias and beat it on third attempt. 👍

[@alba5]

First try with your guide. Thank you!

[@FujiAlb]

Hey man, thanks for all your guides. I was really stuck in the final chapter in hard mode I followed your guide and managed to breeze through the whispers with no issue, then I realised I had this monstrosity to go up against, I was intimated to say the least but thanks to your guides for this entire combat simulator and especially this one I was able to do and finally get the platinum. It took a few attempts, mostly reseting on Shiva and fat chocobo, Leviathan was whatever but Bahamut had me a bit worried, Ifrit got summoned too because I failed to kill Bahamut for like 10% hp, after him and Aerith killed each other at the same time I was left with Cloud and Tifa to fend of against Ifrit and to be honest, I'm glad you made that comment about Tifa wearing fireproof armor because that was definitely my saving grace in that fight. Pride and Joy on the other hand was a joke compared to them or anything in this gauntlet. Once again thank you, and whenever I get Rebirth I'll be back for your help, cheers!