Ora Funky Cat vs Fiat 500C Electric: Battle of the style-focused city EVs

[@newbeginnings8566]

My favourite lady reviewer on KZbin.. A Clear speaking , intelligent and all-round pleasant lady.. Unfortunately full prices weren't discussed.. This is where the EV should be.. Inner city/urban, short country run driving.. The petrol and diesel hybrids should be allowed to cover all other type of routes..

[@toyotaprius79]

If anyone could search the other EVs available from Ora you would wish they were here in Europe. There's the blackcat and whitecat. Modern range with a 2009 entry level price point

[@patriotbarrow]

Maybe in China. In the EU they have to conform to some safety standards which quickly adds to the price. Same reason why the Dacia Spring costs as much as it does, when the Chinese versions are almost half the price.

[@WEZ4136]

@@patriotbarrow and the amount of so-called legacy automakers that sell their vehicles far cheaper in China than they do here too, but to buy them and import them would push the price to around the same as it is here anyway.

[@jamesmccormack3229]

Expensive yes, however, I do like both of these. Have a soft spot for the 500e, love that it's proud to be a city car that can manage motorway miles too, and has no shame about it, we don't all need giant massive SUV's to drive around town every day. The Blackcat and Whitecat from Orla are models I think would do well over here.

[@peteinwisconsin2496]

All the still pix of the two cars together have the Ora Cat closest to the camera and the Fiat 500e farther away. The published sizes of the two cars are: (length, width, height, in mm) Ora Cat: 4235 long, 1825 wide, 1603 tall; 1504 kg empty weight 500e: 3571 long, 1627 wide, 1488 tall, 1395 kg empty weight.

[@richardhargrave6082]

The ORA has a massive boot lip, surprised you didn't mention it. If we s=didn't have to carry four adults, I'd go for the 500E Why have heated seats suddenly become a must have? I think the ORA looks a bit Boss Eyed, like that Morgan from years ago

[@manuel0578]

Actually I dislike seat heating and I never use 😂😂😂

[@elliskaranikolaou2550]

In Australia, Chinese cars have recently got a bad reputation for rusting out very quickly. Is the Ora cat body and frame fully galvanised ? I have read that Chinese cars made for the Chinese market aren't required to be galvanised, though the export models are. Yet it appears some models exported to Australia have developed rust problems very quickly.

[@davedavids9619]

The Fiat is a great car for use in a city and when the weather is nice you take the top off. There is never a need of a 400 nm range, most of the owners will do perhaps 50 nm each day (at most). Car fits in most available parking spaces, can even park it side ways and you have space to put the groceries in the back. Never ever will there be grown ups sitting in the back seat, most likely children won't sit there neither. I have no idea why anyone would want to have a convertible in the UK, but since we live in Greece this is the perfect car for us and it is also a hell of a lot cheaper than in the UK. 😀

[@philipc239]

Review I've been waiting for 👍👍😀

[@DebbieDaydream]

I have a 500e Red Edition and I love it ♥️

[@anthonydeas2173]

I'd have an MG4, cheaper and according the reviews as good as an Id3.... I had a twinair 500, and it was a great car...

[@MobilAvenue_]

She says the Fiat has no heated seats. But you can see the buttons on the top corners At 5:06?

[@bumbleo8993]

No mention of the constant beeping and alarms from driver aids as mentioned on various other reviews.

[@markymarkreviews]

Loved the 500e C when I drove it 2 years ago. Fun and efficient . But now at £37k+ you must be joking! Tesla are potentially going to announce the Model 2 tomorrow and what with the price cuts they have made already, why buy anything else? But they are too big so the Model 2 will break the market I am sure. A "small" Tesla with great efficiency and the SC network..

[@peteinwisconsin2496]

The Tesla Model 2 will be offered for sale when it provides more per-vehicle profit than their Model 3. Until then, the Model 2 is just talk. The Cyber truck was announced over four years ago and there are still none of them on the roads in the US. Elon Musk delivers very little of what he promises. I concede that the Tesla charging network is the best.

[@markymarkreviews]

@@peteinwisconsin2496 Investor Day was a bit vague/boring. Model 2 some way out yet. I know Elon is always late. Tesla Roadster anyone?

[@madev_channel]

now that the BYD Seagull is launched, fiat 500 has a new rival, maybe

[@pigeonpoo1823]

From the outside, if someone said the Ora was the 500X, I'd probably believe them. Real q. If you have a home charger, how do you prevent others from using it? Is there a padlock, an app to initiate charge? Could someone unplug yours and plug theirs in? Could kids prank you by unplugging at 1am? That type of thing. Cheers

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Re. the charger question - the Pod Point is termed a 'smart charger' in that you can set it up to ONLY deliver power between certain times of the day etc etc So, it's actually quite secure in that regard 👍

[@martinbeacher6165]

"Yet today there is an embarrassment of choices" - she forgot to add, "all of which are far too expensive for the ordinary person on the street to afford and have poor range when compared to ICE powered cars." 😆

[@toyotaprius79]

You forgot the reality that every new car, ICE or otherwise have gotten too expensive. Crossovers growing ever more expensive, larger, heavier and same-like, loaded with bells, whistles and door-thunking insulation because that's how profit is made in the auto industry.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

You're right... My wife's petrol car can do about 400 miles on a full tank... Would I ever DO 400 miles in one go...???? Er... no... I'd do about 200 miles max, which is over 3 hours' driving in the UK after all, then take a much-needed 30-minute comfort break... grab a coffee... have something to eat... catch up on emails... etc etc During that time, instead of my wife's car sitting idle in some service station car park, my 200 mile range EV would be plugged in to a rapid charge-point, juicing up for the next 200 mile leg of the journey. It's just a change of mindset, dude... 😎

[@KonsaiAsTai]

All I could afford would be something akin to the Silence S04. All these great "affordable" electric cars are still too expensive for the everyman. 32.000 pounds for something like the ORA or 500e? What used diesel or petrol at sub 10.000 can't match / beat them at virtually everything? I could go out and buy a used RCZ or something of the sort for sub 10k and maintain / fuel it for the difference (22.000 pounds) for more than a decade to come! By the time that diesel and this electric break even, the EV is going to need a new battery / plenty of maintenance over the years as well! Absolutely ridiculous. Then again, the same argument can be made against buying a new diesel / petrol over buying used, so whatever.

[@piglet5287]

​​​@@jonathantaylor1998 the other hand you might still be queuing for a charger after 30 minutes -or two hours - like the Tesla drivers I saw at Telford Services last Xmas. Just being realistic dude...

[@richardhowlett9424]

@@jonathantaylor1998 🤑

[@peteinwisconsin2496]

Fiat 500e a city car? Yes, that is the market for them, though as the speaker said, they are reasonable on the motoroway. The deal breakers for me on the Ora Cat are: touch screen for climate controls, four door only, space-wasting dog house between the front seats and essentially no tail lights. It is a bonus that the Fiat engineers noticed than an EV does Not need a gear selector knob. A row of buttons, ala the 1960-1965 Chrysler products is sufficient. For now at least, all the EVs are expensive until you factor in fuel and maintenance costs. I look forward to charging an EV for free on my 4kW PV array which isn't used much during the summer.

[@cloggsy1971]

Why would you buy either of these, when you can buy the MG4 SE SR for £26,000? 🤔

[@firstnamelastname9631]

Why does the Ora has 4 doors -not 5- while the Fiat has 3 -not 2-?

[@hondamonkeyboy]

What a strange comparison. Both cars aimed at a particular market of which I am not part of. Style focused, that's a new one on me.

[@alanwayte432]

How can this be a strange comparison, obviously for town cars it’s a price point, and yes a fashion choice...not a difficult concept...

[@piglet5287]

It beats me how anyone could consider the Funky Cat stylish

[@adrianbyron-parker5797]

just go for the MG4..sorted

[@kevinnicholson7722]

shouldve tested it against the hardtop 500eor the Peugeot 208e, or astra

[@ellisrochlin2267]

WHY BOTHER , one is based on a italian peoples car design from the 1950s built for in town and city. Price wise similar but size is much bigger , but perhaps the boot space is similar. Bad match up , try the entry id 3 or mg 4 . Get real . wILL SAY THE SHAPE OF ora is a bit olsd as well , it reminds me of a old suzuki swift

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

Electric cars - An impractical solution to an imaginary problem.

[@toyotaprius79]

Smog?

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

@@toyotaprius79 Pardon?

[@WEZ4136]

Sorry but cheap and scratchy plastics are unforgivable in a £30+ car that’s as small as 2 wheelie bins side by side, I’d have neither strictly down to the no heated seats as I need them for an injured back.

[@toyotaprius79]

Maybe decades of focusing on "scratchy plastics" is why ever car/crossover now is unforgivably expensive. Understand where that arms race has led us: complete devoid of affordable choices electric, petrol or otherwise. But how does that matter when everyone (who has the money for new cars) pays for them monthly? Who in their right mind would pay brand new just for 25-50% of the money to fly out of the window as depreciation?

[@WEZ4136]

@@toyotaprius79 the extra cost now is down to a few things, shortages of new cars still has the price higher, all the non essential “safety systems” like lane assistance and lane keep, in the rural uk those 2 are completely redundant. Parking sensors and rear cameras, when the actual costs are from the governments charging more on CO2 emissions which manufacturers are passing on to the customer in the guise of safety systems, most of the electronic parts are made in China cheaper than the costs of the scratchiest of plastics they can buy in the eu.

[@shaunm9928]

Great review - but not inspired by either - will stay with petrol until the death knell rings !

[@colingoode3702]

Both are fashion victim cars at stupidly high prices. Both at half the price might be worth a look for some people but neither floats my boat. Simply not practical or cheap enough.

[@toyotaprius79]

It's called profit. Every car, petrol or otherwise had gone the same path. Posh trims cost pennies, but can demand grand's worth of money. Have you seen Skoda lately?

[@colingoode3702]

@@toyotaprius79 It's not just Skoda. All car prices have jumped up considerably in the last few years & are now beyond what the mass market can afford. Even the "so called" cheap Chinese brands somehow seem to be double the price they sell for in China when they get launched in the UK. That Ora Cat is selling for around £15k in China. I currently own 2 Skodas (Superb Estate & Karoq). Both were bought at 3 years old & both are very good cars (IMO better than their VW / Seat / Cupra counterparts). I would never buy any car new, irrespective of make or model. At 2.5 to 3 years old most cars are 1/2 their price when new & depreciation thereafter is much lower. I do want to get a small-ish 5 door hatch EV with a decent range & useable boot space which we can charge at home & use for a local runabout. However, prices of 3 year old models need to well below £20k before I consider getting one.

[@13031983]

hard to belive FIAT will still exist after 3 years...............

[@pb5x5]

Can't see the other one been around any long either.

[@patriotbarrow]

Not having heated seats is a deal breaker? Talk about first world problems

[@tomcat7525]

Cute vs frumpy.

[@rasherbasher8203]

130 miles 🤣🤣🤣

[@mrepaws]

228 litres “is really poor” 😂 however the fiats 185 litres is restrictive😏 She needs to except Chinese cars are the best now and they will be the only reasonable choice due to other major car manufacturers going bust (Japanese car manufacturers) due to lack of ev adoption. Volkswagen is most likely not going to come back from being the third most indebted company in the world. The chinese might buy all the desperate European and Japanese car manufacturers who will go under due to being too expensive and not having good and/or enough EV vehicles. Buy chinese cars. Gwm Ora is superior😊

[@sssssneaker]

Why does the Funky Cat have fake exhausts in the front?

[@Егорка-н9р]

Busy soldier 32

[@robertlloyd7493]

Sorry...do not like either

[@zzhughesd]

Like one ,the 500e, not the rose paint. Funky cat I’d like to like. I don’t. Mini mash up stying

[@-DC-]

Electric Cars are Crap, Expensive, Terrible Range, And a Ridiculous Refuel Time , Review Over !

[@BHBeckenbauer]

I’d pick 500e all day long. The Funky Cat has a real air of naff-ness IMO

[@pereldh5741]

One of them is made in China, which uses 75% fossile electricity to the factories. So what’s their manufacturing footprint? 25tonnes CO2? 40tonne CO2…?

[@outfoxthefox]

I have had enough of Fiats in the past, so they are excluded regardless.

[@vihangapublic4908]

Black elk 36

[@needleontherecord]

Maybe if you did your home work you would discover thats pronounced Oar-rah not Oral without the L.

[@vihangapublic4908]

Black elk 36