Oracle is destined to beat Amazon at cloud database: Larry Ellison

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@daborshy4089
@daborshy4089 6 жыл бұрын
Damn. I've never heard of a company dishing it out on one of their own customers like this.
@dotamaze
@dotamaze 6 жыл бұрын
He didn't dish out, he was explaining how AWS can't compete with Oracle.
@dkchen
@dkchen 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Oracle ....
@AznS0ulja
@AznS0ulja 6 жыл бұрын
they're not a customer, they're a competitor - are you fucking stupid?
@mnb9162
@mnb9162 6 жыл бұрын
You have to be super confident in your position to start needling Amazon. Especially when they are actively trying to enter the market you are in. For some reason I am routing for him though.
@mnb9162
@mnb9162 6 жыл бұрын
@@AznS0ulja They are both. One Arm of Amazon is in the Database market but at the same time they buy Database for their primary business to function. Oracle provides it for them because its the best....at the moment.
@hamusuta7941
@hamusuta7941 5 жыл бұрын
0:52 “Amazon does not use AWS to run their business.Amazon runs their entire business on top of Oracle, on top of the Oracle Database.They have been unable to migrate to AWS because it is not good enough.” So sad, Larry. Amazon just migrated.
@CodeTalkerLooter
@CodeTalkerLooter 4 жыл бұрын
and why did they took so long?n They just migrated AGAIN, how long it will take to crush again xD
@DanielK1213th
@DanielK1213th 3 жыл бұрын
@@CodeTalkerLooter do you have any idea how huge AWS is and what it takes to completely change the entire database systems.
@charlygarciagza9357
@charlygarciagza9357 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanielK1213th Not only the database system, in Oracle there also program units written in PL/SQL, Views, Indexes than also needs to be reviewed and migrated accordingly with the new Scheme and if you have customers using r12 or fusion also they need to migrate their customs programs to be able to work in the new version
@flanadu
@flanadu 5 жыл бұрын
The only people still running Oracle are legacy customers. They treat their customers like total dogshit and are prohibitively expensive. Any startup would be INSANE to adopt Oracle as their database.
@thefan12345
@thefan12345 5 жыл бұрын
That's why they use mysql... still Oracle though lol and of course someone will jump in here and say Mariadb, Cassandra etc. but you get my point that mysql is the most used open source database.
@dmarks0630
@dmarks0630 5 жыл бұрын
postgress is picking up the steam because mysql getting more closed sourced.
@ijazkhan3335
@ijazkhan3335 5 жыл бұрын
Postgresql is the best for startups.
@ashishtiwari6014
@ashishtiwari6014 5 жыл бұрын
I moved from Oracle db to postgres. Right decision
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph 4 жыл бұрын
@@ijazkhan3335 the best database for startups are managed serviced databases that can incude postgres or mysql or mariadb or dynamodb. That really dpeends on what youre building
@VoxKaizen.
@VoxKaizen. 6 жыл бұрын
This man does not look 74 years old..
@jfojw21dfs9
@jfojw21dfs9 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Adams exactly my thought. Nothing is 74 about him.
@tdreamgmail
@tdreamgmail 6 жыл бұрын
That's what the blood of the young will do for you.
@GizmoMaltese
@GizmoMaltese 6 жыл бұрын
74?? OK, he got plastic surgery...excellent billionaire quality plastic surgery
@skycizzy599
@skycizzy599 5 жыл бұрын
@@tdreamgmail Seems you know something... What exactly do you mean here
@TabsT-vy5jy
@TabsT-vy5jy 5 жыл бұрын
Because he has pulled his face back and injected himself.
@sauda7038
@sauda7038 6 жыл бұрын
Ellison: Oracle database is number one in the world. Interviewer: What's your goal? Ellison: To beat AWS and become number one in the world.
@sauda7038
@sauda7038 6 жыл бұрын
Sakti Sarjono He’s talking about AWS database services like Arura, DynamoDB and others.
@benjamin7114
@benjamin7114 6 жыл бұрын
@@sauda7038 Aurora is simply repackaged Mysql that Oracle made . He just wants to beat them in cloud that he accepts he got in late . He already owns the tools .
@sauda7038
@sauda7038 6 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin7114 Oracle didn't make MySQL. It was an open source project and continues to be under the new name MariaDB. Oracle only acquired the company MySQL AB a few years ago. AWS has many data store services, some of which are built on top of open source projects.
@sauda7038
@sauda7038 6 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin7114 AWS at this stage is simply unbeatable. Both Microsoft and Google failed to reach a fraction of their size. Oracle on the other hand couldn't even move its existing customers to the cloud, so, how on earth are they going to take someone else's customers?
@Staytruegoggins
@Staytruegoggins 6 жыл бұрын
In cloud
@thefan12345
@thefan12345 5 жыл бұрын
"I had all the disadvantages necessary for success" now that's a quote!
@kingrazor5280
@kingrazor5280 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually from a novel which he read.
@ty814
@ty814 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingrazor5280 Which novel?
@LeonardTavast
@LeonardTavast 5 жыл бұрын
Amazon just finished migrating their business software from Oracle to AWS today.
@CodeTalkerLooter
@CodeTalkerLooter 4 жыл бұрын
and why did they took so long?
@lukasaguiar9159
@lukasaguiar9159 4 жыл бұрын
@@CodeTalkerLooter because is not that simple migrate so much data, Netflix took 8 years to migrate to AWS without interruption to end users.
@CodeTalkerLooter
@CodeTalkerLooter 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukasaguiar9159 sorry mate, but it was barely the 40% of the entire 100%, many companies like Google and Microsoft migrated the ENTIRE-aka. 100%- of their data in one blow. So don't tell me that it so much data, becausae Google and Microsoft have more data that Amazon.
@JPFielding
@JPFielding 5 жыл бұрын
Larry having having his steve balmer iphome denial moment. Rip Oracle.
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 5 жыл бұрын
Duh-velopers! Duh-velopers! Duh-velopers! Duh-velopers! ... ... Duh-velopers! Duh-velopers! Duh-velopers! ... :-/
@mosialive
@mosialive 5 жыл бұрын
Oracle is for Life. There's nothing anybody can do about it.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 5 жыл бұрын
Another victim of the Indian Mafia. Just like they killed Sun.
@yourgaragesale
@yourgaragesale 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think that is the case. AWS is the leader, but Oracle has better tech in both Dbaas and IaaS
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourgaragesale customers dont seem to think so. Oracle in cloud is going almost nowhere. It microsoft and Amazon that have the majority stake.
@FitnessChaos
@FitnessChaos 6 жыл бұрын
Larry looking mad sharp for his age. 74 and looking like a 45 or 50 year old. i know 74 year olds that can hardly walk
@kimjongun1413
@kimjongun1413 6 жыл бұрын
But that thin beard of his is hiding the stitching that is pulling his face
@daleravic
@daleravic 6 жыл бұрын
He definitely has been taking the right amount of stem cells HGH.
@Bruce.-Wayne
@Bruce.-Wayne 5 жыл бұрын
When you're worth $57 billion, you dont go to the Hospital, you buy the hospital with all the doctors and get the best health/surgery/drugs/treatment/and then some.....😁.....oh, he gets a new babe every 12 months...that will keep a 74yr old Multi Billionaire fresh and happy
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bruce.-Wayne How many #DongTransplants is he up to now? :-/ #Eccchhhh
@Bruce.-Wayne
@Bruce.-Wayne 5 жыл бұрын
@@RogerBarraud ....I'm sure hes had many......probably got the best surgeons money can buy and then some
@SM-tw4ug
@SM-tw4ug 6 жыл бұрын
You can tell Maria has no clue what he is talking about.
@geraldbachlmayr7758
@geraldbachlmayr7758 5 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have either
@DeependraTube
@DeependraTube 5 жыл бұрын
@@geraldbachlmayr7758 true 😀😁😂 He's scared of Amazon now, even in his dreams.
@shingamikid
@shingamikid 5 жыл бұрын
MariaDB?
@adityag485
@adityag485 4 жыл бұрын
@@geraldbachlmayr7758 How does he have no clue what he is talking about he literally created Oracle
@adityag485
@adityag485 4 жыл бұрын
@S & M Literally you can see these words go over Maria's head and even the way she talks to him you can tell she doesn't understand a word he's saying I honestly don't understand why they would send in reporters that don't even have a basic grasp of what is going on like get someone that understands the industry and can ask tough question jeez
@Heavy_Distortion
@Heavy_Distortion 6 жыл бұрын
Larry forgot to wear his eyebrows.
@crimsonnite9291
@crimsonnite9291 5 жыл бұрын
Hahah savage.
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 5 жыл бұрын
The Sun burninated them off.
@smoothuncut
@smoothuncut 5 жыл бұрын
Is he related to Trudeau? (False Eyebrows)
@Bobby_Digital37
@Bobby_Digital37 6 жыл бұрын
Larry forgot to mention that you can use oracle databases on the amazon cloud, and many do.... also oracle databases are the most expensive and thus also why there are so many other options..... oracle is the bmw of databases, but Honda works just as well for a fraction of the cost, especially when you can’t afford a bmw....
@AtlasFullsun
@AtlasFullsun 6 жыл бұрын
You know that Amazon has to pay Oracle for using Oracle database in AWS cloud right?
@RajAmzn
@RajAmzn 6 жыл бұрын
Completely agree...and to add to this , the advent of microservice architecture requires thousands of database instances with less data instead of a Monolithic database with lots of feature holding huge amount of data. The current pricing model of Oracle just does not fit the bill for so many small instances. MySQL, Postgres, Maria just about serves the purpose wonderfully , so the market share of Oracle RDBMS is dwindling.
@sguillory6
@sguillory6 6 жыл бұрын
@@AtlasFullsun Actually, AWS passes the cost on to the customer Oracle RDS instances are 50% more expensive than comparable Aurora instances
@mickey8973
@mickey8973 5 жыл бұрын
rajorshi sen Exactly. It really is laughable that he is even trying. We're replicating data to many microservices running aurora MySQL, and it will still be cheaper than our monolithic legacy oracle db
@scooobydoo27
@scooobydoo27 5 жыл бұрын
If Oracle is doing well, it's in part to their strong arm techniques with their customers. A couple of years ago, Oracle sent notices to customers that they had audited their licenses. Many companies keep poor track and would likely be in trouble. However, if you chose to upgrade to the next version, the Oracle sales guy took care of any issues that you previously had.
@vinny1010
@vinny1010 6 жыл бұрын
Amazon is such a threat that Uncle Larry keeps bringing them up
@sepirocth
@sepirocth 6 жыл бұрын
interesting, he did the same to microsoft when they came out with windows, he was once on oprah talking about a small portable computer he created back in the 90's
@Bruce.-Wayne
@Bruce.-Wayne 5 жыл бұрын
Lol....old Larry did the same thing to Microsoft back in those windows 95 days, we know who won.....
@boneynerd
@boneynerd 5 жыл бұрын
Larry has ALWAYS gone full crazy on any competitor he fears. Look at his old videos; it is a complete poker tell.
@laurejon
@laurejon 5 жыл бұрын
@@boneynerd Well its not really as the worlds financial systems chose Oracle, the auditors chose oracle, and the legislators chose oracle. Unfortunate as it may be, the protection of Data is no longer something you think about after the event, its something you think about before you even put pen to paper.
@CripplingDuality
@CripplingDuality 5 жыл бұрын
@@laurejon I don't know how true it is that Oracle rules in finance; lots of banks and asset managers seem to have chosen SQL Server, too.
@OpEditorial
@OpEditorial 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta love a guy who's worth $57 billion who's essentially telling a guy who's worth $160 billion he can't live without him 🤣
@darmanhashim
@darmanhashim 6 жыл бұрын
that make any sense, amazon creates for him a business, he is a fool.
@MsShirshendu
@MsShirshendu 6 жыл бұрын
In that way Apple is 1 trillion dollar company but Amazon is not ...Mr bezoz has more steaks in his company
@RajAmzn
@RajAmzn 6 жыл бұрын
The fact is , Amazon has been traditionally into retail & then Clould . Oracle has been traditionally into making RDBMS software and then ERP. Then they diversify and try to get into each other's business. Amazon never even bothers to mention Oracle as a competitor in cloud because Oracle needs to compete with IBM / Digital Ocean first. in the contrast ,AWS starts providing managed database solutions in cloud and that is freaking Larry out because he knows Amazon is grabbing share in database because of dominant cloud ecosystem.
@OpEditorial
@OpEditorial 6 жыл бұрын
@@RajAmzn true, and it's also mildly hilarious that the number 1 richest man in the world has to depend on the 8th richest man in the world
@RajAmzn
@RajAmzn 6 жыл бұрын
@@OpEditorial well..i am sure Larry Ellison or somebody in his family is a customer of Amazon too. And also ...somebody in his family or himself might have a customer of amazon when larry ellison was the 2nd richest and ceo of amazon was nowhere near...Also unfortunately Larry could not be the richest ever...and now it seems he will be never.
@marcusaureliusfanboy
@marcusaureliusfanboy 2 жыл бұрын
giving my 2 cents here as a techie(also, ocassionally calling out Larry's bs): 00:50: "Amazon does not use AWS to run their business and runs their whole business on top of Oracle" [BS. They do use AWS all the time] 01:00: "They have been unable to migrate to AWS" [As of 2020, Amazon Consumer business has shut down its last Oracle DB] 01:38: "...Amazon tried to migrate away from Oracle and went down" [Any engineer worth their salt can tell you, any kind of data migration from any source to any destination is prone to failure. Once the outage due to transit is resolved, the migration succeeds ] 01:50: "...Oracle db manages most of the world's DBs" [True, but this is fast changing. Oracle, due to its licensing policies and its other corporate shackles, is falling out of good books of devs, especially when there are equally good, if not better, open source alternatives available]
@adventurellama7444
@adventurellama7444 5 жыл бұрын
As a developer I can say that Oracle, if tuned correctly, is a great RDBMS. The downside is cost. Plus 98% of the companies that I have worked with use sql server. Unstructured data is the future anyways so relational databases will fall at some point.
@esasamulilaari7327
@esasamulilaari7327 3 жыл бұрын
I am 54 years old single, Master of Science degree graduated, smart, clever, kind, helpful and straight Gentleman in Knowledge Management Mr. Esa Samuli Laari from eastern side of Lappeenranta, South Karelia, Finland, Nordic country! According to my deeply religious cousin Leena I am too kind, I have been huge help to my mother after my father died last September 2020 after long and severe heart illness, not even aggressive towards nobody since summer 1991
@rafdnaah6078
@rafdnaah6078 5 жыл бұрын
Oracle software is the best in quality...and you know, good things aren't cheap and cheap things may not be good. People are looking for cheaper computing and software alternatives. This is the truth. If Oracle lowers its prices, everyone will be switching back to Oracle.
@aminumunir
@aminumunir 6 жыл бұрын
It just looked to me that her soul was yelling "SHOWER ME ME-LORD WITH YOUR INFINITE KNOWLEDGE" as he speaks.... What a great listener.
@charliemopps4926
@charliemopps4926 5 жыл бұрын
What a joke... Oracle customers are tripping over themselves to get away. They're the biggest pariah in the industry.
@kamaltalukder7390
@kamaltalukder7390 5 жыл бұрын
Larry, keep on dreaming. Cloud train left a long time ago for oracle. Your cloud support is the worst in the industry. I have a SEV1 ticket for almost one week. Still no answer.
@mikes2460
@mikes2460 5 жыл бұрын
True... its Amazon vs Azure... Oracle and IBM are like "hey were here guys ! were gonna take over!" what a joke...
@pallavmishra
@pallavmishra 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikes2460 GCP is catching up. A lot of companies not wanting to use Amazon for reasons beyond just the platform (healthcare industry sees Amazon as a potential entrant/disrupter and do not want their provider/payer/patient data on Amazon). Plus, it is becoming expensive. Enter multi-cloud strategy. GCP is very clunky and barebones, but is far cheaper than standard AWS services.
@karthikkirubakaran
@karthikkirubakaran 6 жыл бұрын
LOL.. Larry living in his own cocoon.. No wonder Oracle is not innovative
@doncorleone3901
@doncorleone3901 6 жыл бұрын
He is right. AWS doesn't develop any tech. They package other open source tech. Kinesis=kafka, elasticcache=redis, aurora=mysql, elasticsearch=well, elasticsearch etc etc
@SiddharthKulkarniN
@SiddharthKulkarniN 6 жыл бұрын
That's no less an engineering feat
@jfojw21dfs9
@jfojw21dfs9 6 жыл бұрын
Correct. Bezos won't even dare to bark without Ellison giving the go-ahead.
@EduardoRodriguezRocks
@EduardoRodriguezRocks 6 жыл бұрын
dynamo db ?
@EduardoRodriguezRocks
@EduardoRodriguezRocks 6 жыл бұрын
that is just a stupid comment, they have created the cloud, and oracle just a data storage solution, for sure at the scale amazon retail works, for sure they need Oracle, but Oracle is loosing more and more market given most companies don't require Oracle, just look 5 years ago, you wanted to build any system you needed Oracle, but today you need to have a strong reason to justify Oracle in your company.
@icbevan
@icbevan 6 жыл бұрын
Are you misinformed, ignorant, or stupid?
@hthetiot
@hthetiot 6 жыл бұрын
One word "PostgreSQL". "I'm your worst nightmare"
@ditisnietpablo
@ditisnietpablo 5 жыл бұрын
This, there's no reason to use oracle in 2019 when Postgres is this mature. You can setup a new database in 5 mins and you wont have to change the config files until it starts getting larger than the memory of the server it runs on. Setting up standby servers, clusters and backups can be done by an amateur with some google skills. No sane company starts a new project in oracle.
@mosialive
@mosialive 5 жыл бұрын
@@ditisnietpablo You have no reason to use oracle. well we do.
@CripplingDuality
@CripplingDuality 5 жыл бұрын
@@ditisnietpablo Work for a large enough company that is subject to nontrivial levels of regulation and these notions take a backseat to bureaucratic concerns and having to sell solution choices to nontechnical business units and customers. Oracle and MS have invested in security, redundancy, and auditing and more importantly, marketing all of the above to the executive class. Often, you don't have a choice but to invest in a shitty tool because it has a shiny logo and you need to pay your bills.
@andyvandenberghe6364
@andyvandenberghe6364 2 жыл бұрын
He's actually right. I ran Oracle databases for twenty years in several companies. Oracle was consistently the most stable component of our IT landscape.
@rkara2
@rkara2 6 жыл бұрын
god father of technology ... lol its a database lady.
@soflynn22
@soflynn22 5 жыл бұрын
Larry's net worth 64.1 billion usd. he's not created a shopping list
@einarabelc5
@einarabelc5 5 жыл бұрын
It's called Fake News!!
@salmankhan-gb5hr
@salmankhan-gb5hr 4 жыл бұрын
I am proud Oracle DBA and Oracle user since 1991.
@ramanaindugula5909
@ramanaindugula5909 5 жыл бұрын
As a CEO, I understand Larry's sentiment and statement to stay positive and potential to use Oracle's years of experience in the databases space. But when the rubber meets the road, when new technologies are rolled out by Oracle, they are so buggy. Think about their cloud implementation for applications, BI in the Cloud for example. I am not sure if customers are as satisfied as they were promised. Customer Support is terrible. Oracle databases experience is totally different story though.
@louismaltese8329
@louismaltese8329 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr.Ellison, I have been following Oracle's growth and I have admired / followed your work for year's. I belive Oracle to be the best software solution in the world period. On this note, I think that with the correct equation's Oracle could compete and very well over take AWS. I have conducted an social experiment and I have found that the majority of end user lean toward AWS due to three exact causes. 1. AWS is Fast, Cheap and Easy. 2. AWS is super super super simple. 3. AWS has a 24 instant support line for there product. 1. I belive that if you took Oracle and refined the software into a more simple version just for cloud computing, something a lot more user friendly, then you would see a very large increase in sales. Worrie about the more comlex systems later in the contract. 2. Offer the best software customer service in the world. 3. Make the Cloud package readly available. No phone calls, no emails, and simple to get started / check out. I belive that the advantages to Oracle are in it's complexities, how ever for a first time user it is to much at first sight. So if you started with a very simple package that is super user friendly, then I belive you would see a significant increase in sales. Eventually, end users are going to reqest some of the more complexe features, so if you were to offer the features in packages this would be a great.
@a88888888a
@a88888888a 6 жыл бұрын
Larry is a class act who lives life to the max. True hustler... Even friends had a character based on him.
@ITUnwrapped
@ITUnwrapped 5 жыл бұрын
She said that Larry is the godfather of technology!!!! Why doesn't she just give him a reach around? She is such a sellout.
@yoloswaggins2161
@yoloswaggins2161 6 жыл бұрын
lmao this guy is stuck in the 2000s
@letyjay9715
@letyjay9715 6 жыл бұрын
you gotta love his balls though. hes so explosive and uses polorised statements i love it. "we are 10 times better and 10 times cheaper. let me prove it. amazon failed. they need us. who owns aurora, ORACLE. its just a chunk of open source we are responsible for. you know who else hates oracle and uses us ?" LOL in other words, even his enemies cant live without him. " they all run on oracle, a decade later they still use oracle , only 99 of 100 uses oracle " thats just slicing them all.
@collinmayer3183
@collinmayer3183 5 жыл бұрын
He is the Steve Balmer of DataBases. He will fall away and Oracle will continue to lose customers and continue to lose expansion rate.
@Nimitz_oceo
@Nimitz_oceo 5 жыл бұрын
It’s more like he is stuck in the 90s
@brandonhunter3036
@brandonhunter3036 5 жыл бұрын
Christian Martin I was gonna say the same...2000’s is a bit generous 😉
@rmzzz76
@rmzzz76 5 жыл бұрын
He's a great marketer and a great storyteller and he's fired up about this. Good to see Larry Ellison being Larry Ellison! Regarding Aurora, there is partial truth being spoken here. Yes it is based on MySQL, yes Oracle owns MySQL, but also it is Open Source. Amazon just used MySQL as a foundation on which they built Aurora...
@tiberiodigiorgio2032
@tiberiodigiorgio2032 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I Heard that Ellison was a Grest Sales man but I could never Imagine that he has this great communication ability.
@billwebb8561
@billwebb8561 5 жыл бұрын
when you have to explain, you ain't winning Larry.
@bryanbill3692
@bryanbill3692 5 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Charlie Sheen.
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 5 жыл бұрын
"How did you do this, Larry?" True answer: "I got shitloads of taxpayer money from NSA."
@mt-qc2qh
@mt-qc2qh 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with Oracle is the fact that they make migration away extremely difficult. It's not that they are better, they trap clients to their product. His comments on MySQL makes Monty throw up. Oracle didn't write MySQL they bought it and made it private. Use MariaDB instead.
@emmieevans4305
@emmieevans4305 6 жыл бұрын
Started as a developer in Oracle back in the 90's. Still the best database out there. Robust, fast, and very stable. Good job, Larry!
@DenisG631
@DenisG631 6 жыл бұрын
In which universe are you living in? Oracle is one of the shittiest DB according to all benchmarks. Expensive and nobody uses it to build new solutions nowadays, same with IBM DB2. Legacy systems use it, because it always hard to migrate. That's it
@RajAmzn
@RajAmzn 6 жыл бұрын
I have been supporting Oracle databases last 13 years and I have seen things changing over time. Yes , Oracle was the best solution some 15 years back till last 7 years back. But as the open source RDBMS databases like Mariadb, Postgres, MySQL matured, the features that applications needed are very much there in these and with the advent of microservice architecture , there is no more need of monolithic solutions like Oracle. Also, pricing model of Oracle will cost a lot to run so many instances. All in all Oracle might still be the best RDBMS software but the market has alternatives with way better price points.
@SwapanD
@SwapanD 5 жыл бұрын
The best analysis.
@vectorhacker-r2
@vectorhacker-r2 2 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@ansilh
@ansilh 5 жыл бұрын
Amazon shutdown the last Oracle database recently.!
@boboandpenelope2354
@boboandpenelope2354 6 жыл бұрын
Ten bucks says Amazon wins
@imsrini
@imsrini 6 жыл бұрын
Amazon's market cap is about 800 Bn $ now ( Oct 2018 ), Oracle's is 180 Bn $ - Amazon's left Oracle in the dust already. And the good old days of Oracle are long gone, only the people in retirement homes use an Oracle RDBMS now. All the latest tech's moved to No-SQLs these days & even their pride & joy, Java, which Oracle got their grubby mitts on by their acquisition of Sun, is on the decline. New installations of Oracle RDBMS must be really down, which is probably why Larry's on TV peddling his ol' wares. Oracle would've been swallowed up by any of the "biggies" by now, only thing is that nobody's interested as all Oracle has is "legacy" tech ! They might as well be selling IBM PCs - beige ones at that ! :)
@GeorgetheArchitect
@GeorgetheArchitect 6 жыл бұрын
Destiny tran Oracle cloud is no comparison to AWS, will likely never be. Oracle is facing existential threat and it’s only savior is it’s SaaS business
@benjamin7114
@benjamin7114 6 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgetheArchitect You know what AWS uses ? Aurora .... who made Aurora ... ORACLE .
@RajAmzn
@RajAmzn 5 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin7114 well.. if you are tracing back , lets trace back further . Aurora -> MySQL ->founded by Monty Wedinus & commerically supported Sun microsystem which was bought by Oracle. So , historically it was not build by Oracle's Engineers.
@YoungDen
@YoungDen 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter who built it but who owns and controls it which is Oracle.
@jimcolabuchanan6579
@jimcolabuchanan6579 6 жыл бұрын
Asked Alexa, "what is your favorite database management system?" Alexa answers "Oracle"
@leixia6415
@leixia6415 6 жыл бұрын
Oracle amazed me when they were clairvoyant enough to takeover Sun and thus become the owner of Java
@gtopcu
@gtopcu 3 жыл бұрын
Well with a background on all fronts - SAP, Oracle, Microsoft, AWS - I truly agree with every word Larry says. Oracle DB has great engineering behind it. The only problem of using it today in any new architecture is what Oracle did to Java and all other services - "Corporate Greed". Otherwise, I would still be biasing most of our new global SaaS on this solid database. And your competition with AWS is so out of league. So no, it is not a database or technical choice anymore, Oracle just made us tech guys and customers hate them for their Java, licensing strategy & army of lawyers. What are we left with? AWS Aurora & PostgreSQL unfortunately, although we know they are nowhere as advanced as the core OracleDB. Sorry Larry, being the best tech guy doesn't help if people doesn't trust in your company. This has always been the true reason why Oracle has no future as of today.
@chickentikkasauce1301
@chickentikkasauce1301 5 жыл бұрын
Ellison is butthurt amazon ditched them and the rest of the world is moving on.
@trevortrevose9124
@trevortrevose9124 Жыл бұрын
Even with collaboration with Microsoft oracle doesn't come close to aws
@SimsSmith
@SimsSmith 6 жыл бұрын
This is no longer accurate. As of 1st of November, "AWS CEO Andy Jassy confirms Oracle data warehouse switch-off at Amazon" . They discussed this in re:Invent this year and you can google search it to confirm it.
@malcorub
@malcorub 5 жыл бұрын
Amazon AWS is the pioneer in cloud computing. Microsoft Azure is catching up because so many business use MS products for their enterprise solutions. Google Cloud's advantage is that they are well versed in BIG DATA. Oracle.... I don't even know where they fall in line when it comes to big cloud solutions.
@dkchen
@dkchen 5 жыл бұрын
If Oracle business practices weren't all about getting as much money as possible from their customers I would be open to recommending them.
@fokthewef
@fokthewef 5 жыл бұрын
That woman was getting hornier as the interview went on
@Bruce.-Wayne
@Bruce.-Wayne 5 жыл бұрын
LOL....her panties got wetter each time Larry says something
@GG-lm9xq
@GG-lm9xq 5 жыл бұрын
You can see she wants it so badly..
@RanjanKumar-bu7ws
@RanjanKumar-bu7ws 4 жыл бұрын
True true true
@WindupTerminus
@WindupTerminus 5 жыл бұрын
Always funny hearing the CEO of the company that makes it a license violation to publish benchmarks talking about how they outperform others in benchmarks.
@Slarti
@Slarti 6 жыл бұрын
I used Microsoft SQL Server in a few jobs and trained as a DBA and was both a developer and DBA in those jobs. I have also had the misfortune to use Oracle in a couple of jobs, as a developer, and my experience is that it is a much harder to use product and way overpriced for what it offers. I would never use Oracle again if I had the choice of database systems.
@rustyryan4473
@rustyryan4473 5 жыл бұрын
Right? Oracle is so fucking bad.
@malcorub
@malcorub 5 жыл бұрын
Azure, Power BI, SSMS, SASS, SSRS. Microsoft is king.
@Slarti
@Slarti 5 жыл бұрын
@@rustyryan4473 that's not what I wrote.
@Slarti
@Slarti 5 жыл бұрын
@@malcorub in my opinion - yes.
@rustyryan4473
@rustyryan4473 5 жыл бұрын
@@Slarti I totally agree. Oracle is garbage!
@vectorhacker-r2
@vectorhacker-r2 2 жыл бұрын
3 years later, he couldn't be more wrong.
@hwkd5416
@hwkd5416 6 жыл бұрын
I've worked with oracle DBMS..but it was a pain in the ass. I don't see why people would use it...
@adventurellama7444
@adventurellama7444 5 жыл бұрын
Justin been there as well. I absolutely hate Oracle.
@utilisateurdigital9374
@utilisateurdigital9374 5 жыл бұрын
If you are not able to work on an Oracle RDBMS platform, that ain't be a problem, you still can play with smaller RDBMS if that fit your needs. Serious guys running banking companies, insurances, making huge money cannot afford playing with tools they do not trust, they invest in technologies and ....they make money.
@xyzxi771
@xyzxi771 2 жыл бұрын
The race is not over, Quant Network is going to be key to Oracle overtaking Amazon possibly because of Interoperability
@albeit1
@albeit1 6 жыл бұрын
Aurora is compatible with MySQL 5.6, but it is not MySQL AWS also has a PostgreSQL-compatible version.
@pureumkim5154
@pureumkim5154 6 жыл бұрын
I love Ellison- He is very smart- Oracle is not going away- But I would not underestimate Amazon either. But for now, Oracle is here to stay-
@yosanmelese2094
@yosanmelese2094 6 жыл бұрын
reminds me of the only mechanic in my town. since he is the only mechanic he bragged and bragged and bragged treated his customers very badly and then after a decade he lost everything. i think if this guy lives long enough he might share the same faith. i dont think he should give reason for amazon and sap to develop their own database system.
@mahanpathak24
@mahanpathak24 5 жыл бұрын
Larry should run for the US Presidentship. He would be a genuine successor to Mr. Trump.
@tzarmedia7133
@tzarmedia7133 5 жыл бұрын
Love it. Let's make this viral.
@el6178
@el6178 5 жыл бұрын
'People I enjoyed working with' Incredibly important aspect of building a successful project.
@diliprathore85
@diliprathore85 5 жыл бұрын
What he is not saying is that Oracle exists only in OLTP space. That is not where the future of database lies. What has Oracle got for in memory databases, no SQL database etc ?
@leaflo6960
@leaflo6960 6 жыл бұрын
People dont hate on the guy just because you dont know what his company does, its the backbone to a lot of these information big companies you know and what larry is saying here is straight up facts.
@AtlasFullsun
@AtlasFullsun 6 жыл бұрын
It seems there's more hate on Amazon rather. What gives?
@letyjay9715
@letyjay9715 6 жыл бұрын
@@AtlasFullsun its not hate. thats what Larry has always been. him and steve jobs. they will publicly fight anyone who is not good enough in their space trying to compete. its passion and pride within him, the old school way. hes just not scared to say, IM THE BEST. and good for him.
@naturebc
@naturebc 5 жыл бұрын
It's not that they don't like Oracle, it's that they don't like him. And who could blame them.
@rj_1337_
@rj_1337_ 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who watches this and believes Oracle is going to "beat" AWS at cloud database is out of touch with current cloud computing. 10 years ago, maybe.
@DeependraTube
@DeependraTube 5 жыл бұрын
you r quite right. Oracle is a dead cat wants to bounce back ... 👶😁
@mziqbal2003
@mziqbal2003 5 жыл бұрын
These are valuable words on Tech innovation by one the pioneer Larry Ellison. It is great to see Oracle is taking further enhanced initiative on cloud services like IBM and Amazon. Oracle is undoubtedly has one of the most primal database which incorporate many tech firms, gadget, cars, planes, software and the overall machinery. Security and Reliability will be among priority for Oracle database in cloud based architecture. ✨🌠
@GeorgetheArchitect
@GeorgetheArchitect 6 жыл бұрын
Maria is clueless in technology and it shows. Oracle is in shambles but Maria has no clue
@Jez1963UK
@Jez1963UK 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed that too. She let him speak as much as he wanted because she cannot ask any technical questions.
@gamingbaqra588
@gamingbaqra588 6 жыл бұрын
Also she was paid for it
@chaoranyu5629
@chaoranyu5629 5 жыл бұрын
@soon jpg lol
@attilavidacs24
@attilavidacs24 5 жыл бұрын
Great interview. He is still a humble person and doesn't come off as arrogant.
@skhochay
@skhochay 5 жыл бұрын
I have been DBA for the last 20+ years, working with a lot of databases. In a relational database, Oracle is definitely the best database and the most expensive too. in NoSQL - Cassandra is. But in today's world data comes with different shapes and forms, no longer normalized or denormalize, just bulk and then comes Hadoop and Elastic Serch, so as you can see one particular database can't be a winner, it depends what you want to do with a data?
@mautrindade
@mautrindade 5 жыл бұрын
If you think Google, Facebook, Amazon AWS and are bad... Oracle beats them all together on being horrible. Unless they change, they will go bankrupt in less than 5 years.
@Mossad901
@Mossad901 6 жыл бұрын
The video is 8 minutes and 47 seconds, he said database 147 times, which means he said database every four seconds
@pkul3003
@pkul3003 5 жыл бұрын
how did you know? did you keep the count?
@sifiso5055
@sifiso5055 4 жыл бұрын
You’ve a lot of time to waste😝
@saifytdin
@saifytdin 3 жыл бұрын
When Oracle realized that infrastructure on premises is no longer an axiom, Amazon become to big to be defeated Oracles usual way: buy, eat, 💩
@ebusdk
@ebusdk 5 жыл бұрын
The Fulfillment team at Amazon is off Oracle now, and his statement about Aurora is false
@JohnnyRei
@JohnnyRei 6 жыл бұрын
After Steve Jobs died this is my favorite guy to listen to.
@rutht9667
@rutht9667 6 жыл бұрын
yea dude but he just says one thing Database lol wtf, its so 80s
@peetsnort
@peetsnort 6 жыл бұрын
He seems to be the most balanced billionaire. Half work and half sports Good man
@okidokiyowyow356
@okidokiyowyow356 6 жыл бұрын
Howard Petterson he got a good hobby.
@TuLegitify
@TuLegitify 6 жыл бұрын
Most balanced? Might want to look into his past. I think there's a Bloomberg documentary about him as the "Samurai of Silicon Valley"
@peetsnort
@peetsnort 6 жыл бұрын
@@TuLegitify OK I will look
@SinskariBoi3366three
@SinskariBoi3366three 3 жыл бұрын
Very much outspoken about the customers 😄
@shivagurumurthy8895
@shivagurumurthy8895 6 жыл бұрын
People hate him. People hate oracle sales tactics. But their database is king. No doubt. And although they are late they will never die
@75McNeill
@75McNeill 5 жыл бұрын
.... said the dinosaurs.
@DeependraTube
@DeependraTube 5 жыл бұрын
.... Microsoft also thought so for Windows 😀👶
@rukawa23gold
@rukawa23gold 5 жыл бұрын
He is like the boombastic Trump of Tech field. He has made so many outrageous , hilarious, and silly statements over the years. He really pissed off so many of his customers. But like Trump, he won. Either he was just incredibly lucky. Or he is indeed a brilliant strategist despite his constant wacky comments. :) Oracle is the undisputed King of Database. Right now, he is going after cloud database, which AWS rules at the moment. I wouldn't dare to doubt the strategizing power of Larry Ellison.
@laurejon
@laurejon 5 жыл бұрын
I for one would not like to be the CIO sitting in front of the board explaining our recent security incident that had millions of our clients financial details scattered across the internet because we thought open source economies came before our clients security and data integrity. Oracle is a name that we will trust in the business for a very very long time to come.
@fordee1964
@fordee1964 5 жыл бұрын
Jayzuz if Oracle Database was so good why didn't they go to the cloud 10 years ago? I remember Ellison thinking that the cloud was a fashion thing 10 years ago. He didn't believe in it. Actually, Oracle is just a database. Amazon is a Cloud. Oracle has 0.5% of cloud market. AWS has over 50%.
@danconstantine4247
@danconstantine4247 4 жыл бұрын
He looks 30 years younger. Actually, he looks the same since he became a public figure.,
@jacobmadren663
@jacobmadren663 5 жыл бұрын
Did he just say that they are 10x cheaper to run on Oracle than on Amazon? No, just no
@fahad-m62
@fahad-m62 6 жыл бұрын
Oracle may be better and cheaper, but in the end marketing is the only way to gain marketshare, and I think more people know about AWS, Azure, and even Google Cloud, and not many know about or are prioritizing Oracle's offerings or certifications. The best products don't always win.
@RajAmzn
@RajAmzn 6 жыл бұрын
Also nobody knows Oracle's Cloud offering is "The best". Ofcourse, Larry's statement for his own product cannot be the certificate.
@ChristinaVisionChannel
@ChristinaVisionChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Oracle needs to run some damn commercials. Larry spent millions on his racing sailboat, how hard could it possibly be to buy a super bowl ad?
@hugh_le
@hugh_le 2 жыл бұрын
If they have superior database and Amazon is successful because of using it. Then the question remained is Oracle management team in question.
@TechdubberStudios
@TechdubberStudios 6 жыл бұрын
he sounds a lot like Trump.
@mosialive
@mosialive 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Bruce.-Wayne
@Bruce.-Wayne 5 жыл бұрын
Nah....Larry is no Idiot...
@ultralooter
@ultralooter 5 жыл бұрын
They are both very full of themselves, except Larry has IQ, which Trump lacks.
@Bruce.-Wayne
@Bruce.-Wayne 5 жыл бұрын
Knowing I'm worth $57 billion, I'd be an idiot and full of myself too.....ain't shit wrong with that....you'd be the Biggest boss around the block and most of the time, it would be Your Way or Else.....😎
@ultralooter
@ultralooter 5 жыл бұрын
@Dan Ordel Though I think a good leader asks intelligent questions to his team rather than telling other people what to do.
@raymondl12
@raymondl12 5 жыл бұрын
Take a shot for every time Ellison says "database".
@shivamsharma-gg3iv
@shivamsharma-gg3iv 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Bezos: hold my 🍺
@1Esteband
@1Esteband 5 жыл бұрын
He was way ahead of the curve when proposed the Network Computer which would be cloud computers in today's standards. The problem is execution, he is a prodigious salesman, but a less than stellar CEO. Oracle DB was his best initiative, most of the companies he has bought failed or dwindle.
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 5 жыл бұрын
#FOS. Sun had the motto "The Network Is The Computer" well before LawnMower-San acquired them.
@1Esteband
@1Esteband 5 жыл бұрын
​@@RogerBarraud Sure. Like Xerox PARC and Apple. Sun did just the same kind of poor job pushing that idea.
@mtl-ss1538
@mtl-ss1538 5 жыл бұрын
Larry is the best & winner in every thing he touches, except the Americas Cup.. He lost to a little Kiwi country, called New Zealand. Larry has spent over a Billion dollars, over the last 10 years,in his pursut of the Cup. sofar & now wont compete, in the 2021 America's Cup yacht race.
@pallavmishra
@pallavmishra 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like he is good in pursuits - the only place he won was in the relational database race.
@MrScipio2011
@MrScipio2011 5 жыл бұрын
He won in 2013. I think. One helluva comeback.
@TheSQL-Lover
@TheSQL-Lover 4 жыл бұрын
This is the mentality an opinion of a CEO, and not of a technical person or DBA. Oracle got stuck in the 2000s. Microsoft SQL is actually getting closer and closer to performance and features that Oracle used to provide, and AWS is changing the industry with their very elastic and scalable model. Yes, Oracle is good, but they need to improve their cloud services. They did not want to play nice with VMware when people start running Oracle on VMs, they deliberated changed their price model, and now they are in denial with AWS.
@Jayf1981
@Jayf1981 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome goal! Takedown Amazon! Who loves the competitive spirit?
@ChristinaVisionChannel
@ChristinaVisionChannel 6 жыл бұрын
We're fighting for survival. All of us. Amazon will consume everything in it's path if it is not stopped.
@DeependraTube
@DeependraTube 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone now a days scared of Amazon .. 😨👶
@ZakariaBoumediane
@ZakariaBoumediane 5 жыл бұрын
My company has decided to ditch every single Oracle product because of the shady licensing practices, most notably with Java. MySQL being hawked by Oracle is no coincidence, it drew too many project and was free.
@kajenius
@kajenius 5 жыл бұрын
interviewer has no idea whats going on
@wilfransmillan2482
@wilfransmillan2482 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@adityag485
@adityag485 4 жыл бұрын
Literally you can see these words go over Maria's head and even the way she talks to him you can tell she doesn't understand a word he's saying I honestly don't understand why they would send in reporters that don't even have a basic grasp of what is going on like get someone that understands the industry and can ask tough question jeez
@williamevans6830
@williamevans6830 5 жыл бұрын
Hate this man all you want. He has a very valid point. Besos himself said it about Amazon. They take infrastructure that already exists and build ontop of it. Until someone takes Oracle on at their own game this company will be around for a VERY LONG TIME.
@veden310
@veden310 6 жыл бұрын
Oracle is dead, like DB2 and other RDBMS. In big data world only databases with linear scaling will survive.
@mrgerbeck
@mrgerbeck 6 жыл бұрын
Oracle, maybe. RDBM is here to stay--many have evolved to adapt. Besides, just in case you weren't listening, the engineers at Amazon chose Oracle over big data databases so...
@MilanVVVVV
@MilanVVVVV 6 жыл бұрын
Why would RDBMS be dead?
@dmitrylee01
@dmitrylee01 6 жыл бұрын
That's all nice and dandy but not every data problem is a Big Data problem. Besides, all linearly scalable (which pretty much means - distributed, MPP, shared-nothing architecture) systems have their own bag of problems. There are plenty of use-cases for relational databases, cases that require immediate consistency, HA, network partition tolerance (all at the same time), ACID compliance. That doesn't necessarily mean that Oracle will survive long term as a main RDBMS vendor but RDBMS as a class of storage engines is here to stay, at least in a foreseeable future. PS. As for Oracle's claims of possible future dominance as a cloud DB provider, well, thanks for a good laugh
@RajAmzn
@RajAmzn 6 жыл бұрын
As the amount and variety of data have increased , so has solutions evolved. It's true that the catch-all solution of RDBMS have diversified into NoSQL solutions like Wide-column store (hbase,cassandra) , Document-store (Mongodb,Couchdb) , Redis (key-value) ... There are still some applications and data that is best served by RDBMS. The BIG change in RDBMS world is that open source solutions like Postgres , MySQL , Maria have matured and combined with its price advantage , they eating into the market share of erstwhile king of RBMS Oracle. In sometime Oracle Corp. will neither be the topmost RDBMS company , nor Clould and their ERP is already taking a beating.
@mcho8137
@mcho8137 5 жыл бұрын
ummm....no. Why do you think they created hive in the big data world? To make hadoop more relational for better querying, right?
@nicks8129
@nicks8129 5 жыл бұрын
incredibly good spin, lot's of his comments are playing with context. Aurora is MySQL and Postgres. Oracle bought MySQL - that's why he's saying is Oracle. Aurora is 90% about the wide-bandwidth, very lowly contended highly resilient network fabric underlying the actual dbs. That's how you'd like to run an enterprise database service. Oracle has all that in their entire product offering too. But not so easy to do on the cloud - multi region replication, failover. Amazon can because they now operate quite a few intercontinental tier 1 network links, one of them being the only pan-pacific US-AUS sub cable. He doesn't mention this obviously.
@danabram
@danabram 6 жыл бұрын
The founder and former CEO of Oracle. Gee I wonder if he's biased...
@tpf4292
@tpf4292 5 жыл бұрын
people use Linux just love Oracle, didn't realize how great they've been...
@depizixuri58
@depizixuri58 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know Amazon databse, but Oracle is trapped on the 70's. Oracle databases are unmaintainable. They don't even support basic types like boolean, his documentation is awful, and the community is toxic.
@jetamoeba2313
@jetamoeba2313 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I can't believe this is actually true. I just Googled a bunch of stuff on Oracle boolean values not being a thing, and it's ridiculous lol. That's like the most primitive data type.
@depizixuri58
@depizixuri58 5 жыл бұрын
@@jetamoeba2313 I asked for this on the very Oracle support forum, and the people responsible for designing Oracle gave me the most ridiculous excuses for it. It is just beyond belief. Unacceptable and unbelievable. But that is just the start of the programming hell. The database needs to be maintained very close to metal, or it may go very wrong as the data sizes grow.
@CristianCiupitu
@CristianCiupitu 5 жыл бұрын
Right from the docs: > A BOOLEAN data type enables you to represent logical values. In code, BOOLEAN values are represented by values for "no" and "yes" (in any combination of uppercase and lowercase characters). -- docs.oracle.com/cd/B19306_01/olap.102/b14346/dml_datatypes004.htm
@depizixuri58
@depizixuri58 5 жыл бұрын
@@CristianCiupitu That's not Oracle SQL
@MMABeijing
@MMABeijing 6 жыл бұрын
he created Oracle, well now I get his energy level and his commitment. I don't think he is egocentric or crazy, he is just passionate about his product, and frankly after hearing him I don't look at Oracle the same way. Oracle is the shit
@oah3502
@oah3502 6 жыл бұрын
Maria eyes look so sparking when this alpha tech good farther wows. he mix up bragging and humble. Damn that rock
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