How Orange Speaker Cabinets Are Built

[@j.w.5485]

A lot of people are bitching about the price. I built slant cabinets myself before and trust me there is a buttload of labor that goes into one of those. Hand labor in the UK or USA is not cheap. Eventually they will probably ship it all off to China and then you'll be bitching about that.

[@therealjackfisher]

For the price I expect good sound and orange is not that :D .. Orange sound like granpda rig. And it is ugly as fk. Come on. Look at it.. Its fucking hideous.

[@colemcdaniel5468]

90% of their products are made in PRC, They sold out long ago... I build professional cabs as well. Could bust off about 3-4 slants in an 8 hour day, and that's complete. They are super simple, especially with all the right parts, machines and proper tools. I use a table saw, Brad nailer and a router, by hand. The hardest part is cutting the seems on the Tolex/Rexine so they perfectly match up. After 2 or 3, you get it right. This is basic high school shop stuff. They don't even finger joint them. That, out of any step, is the most time consuming part! Slapping the wood on a CNC table for 1-2 mins for all your cuts is chump work at minimum wage. Then it goes together is like Lego, all your grooves are there. Glue, line up, nail done! Orange is now a Corporation out for your cash! These are $1799 +tax here in Canada, wood is Chinese, wiring is Chinese, Rexine is made in china, along with all the input jacks, down to the Celestion Vintage 30's, all made in China. People will always bitch yes, but the price is R*A*P*E man! UK labor is not the highest quality either, I have watched Top Gear since the 80's, they talk about it all the time! We have an amp company called Traynor up here, they make the exact same cab, it is heavier though by about 10-12 lbs. Still uses Chinese V30's, but its $800 +tax so, $840 all in. The difference in tone can be dialed with a EQ, unless you like being taken a fool by the company you support, then by all means... Whack away Jim, whack away! Building one with little knowledge and cheap hands tools makes for a buttload of work yes. But you are saving like $1200 bucks dude! I agree with Jack Fisher here, they are ugly, well the grill mesh is, and they sound like every other V30 cab. I sold my Rockerverb for a Revv Genorator, never looking back again! TheRevv is 10 times the amp. V30's are actually crap speakers for anything but metal anyways... Just to be clear people, Google does not have ears, you do, use them and try other speakers! There are leaders in this world and followers, which one are you?

[@panchowterenie]

@@colemcdaniel5468 I agree with you, however V30s on that video are "Made in England". Check out at 2:46.

[@colemcdaniel5468]

@@panchowterenie Nope, it has "50" where the "Ipswich England" should be. It's a made in China speaker! Not English. I sell them, you can clearly see by the Gold and black magnet sticker that it's made in China as well. 2:45, says made in China...

[@hlrossato]

@@colemcdaniel5468 I kept thinking one thing since I'm planning (or should I say "was planning"?) to buy a PPC212. I checked the Celestion website and the picture they have there for the V30 is exactly like the one shown in this video which begs the question: Could it be that all V30s now are made in China and Orange is only using what's available or can you still buy V30s made in England? It's been 2 or more days that I'm poundering between buying that cab because I want the UK version of V30 or I don't want it at all.

[@mattschlesinger2426]

I am really digging these cabinets already, but... I think Orange gets HUGE points for using Clutch as their soundtrack!

[@popcultureinelchuco]

"First, we find the absolute heaviest wood possible, then we add 200lbs of dumbbells 'cause fuck your back..."

[@kaiserbach1231]

Christian Miranda haha. you're right.

[@henkkman]

Exactly! 🥴 I guess they need to cut costs because it’s handmade England.

[@vox1966]

Man up

[@ozmobozo]

You never held a Marshall I guess

[@paulwisniewski7292]

@@ozmobozo Marshall 412 1960A 80lbs - Orange PPC412 102lbs

[@cliffords2315]

And thats why my 1975 Orange Cabs still look new! .......solid as hell,

[@buzzedalldrink9131]

I have a 70’s 6x12 cabinet. Its like moving a refrigerator, every time it needs to be moved! Orange cabs are built better than anything out there!

[@lespaul6550]

I have an Orange 4x12. The best cab I've owned

[@Hardchoere]

Same here. Question: Did you ever open it? I tried but couldn't because the back seems to be kind of sealed to the cab...??

[@michaelinglis567]

@@Hardchoere Its not its just really really tight for a reason. Take all the screws out then remove the jack plate and once youve taken out the jack plate let it hang off to the side and reach in with a few fingers and pull outward. That should do the trick. Its tight cause if it wasnt it wouldnt control air and would essentially be a half ass open back cabinet.

[@blahblahsen1142]

i'm also kinda disappointed that they dont use their own custom cover material and call it "orange peel" so much missed smiles on that missed opportunity. they could have a jazzy model called "zest" and a shred model called "slice" and a smooth clean cab called the dream-sickle. even a super dense male model with great hair called the mocha-frappachino. (zoolander fans will get that one)

[@runtfan71]

You deserve to be on someone's marketing team...

[@prettyugly6089]

Dude, your ideas are pretty damn WACK! Please, no more suggestions.... Ever

[@scottninjasmoker6819]

Can I have a discount code for at least 15% so I can buy the big cabinets and the head I get paid mid month next month please get back to me and let me know big fan I bought most of your pedals now I'm going for amp bass and one big set up for guitar

[@jakemertz2660]

wow I wanted to know how orange builds their cabs but I never expected a video with this much detail :)

[@gregbradshaw7220]

Wow, a lot of carpentry experts and sound engineers in the comments. This is incredible. Thank god for your contributions to this video.

[@wurm_flesh_official]

some of us actually build cabinets ;-)

[@anahowana]

I think there was a hurricane somewhere in the States, and it happened that a house (or a music store ?) was destroyed by the hurricane, yet a PPC 412 stood the test of the weather !

[@bb_lz9790]

Thanks for sharing! I appreciate the hammer pushing in the beading technique!

[@Jrappleyea11]

I've been looking at getting an Orange Crush 100 and a PPC212 forever and to see they are put together by hand really makes me want one now.

[@williamdiego7218]

Those are made in china, still hand made though they got another video showing that factory as well.

[@beatdownby]

I got a 2x12 closed back a year ago. It was a happy day. Same a few months before that getting a Rockerverb 50. Special shit man. Gonna do the same with a Bogner xtc, and matching cab soon. Then ill have the stereo rig to rival all stereo rigs.

[@tyleraho2485]

Recently got a PPC 212 with my TH30. my mesa roadster and H&K tubemiester sound great through it as well. I know alot of people want less expensive gear but there's a reason these top most 212 lists. WOW.

[@mandyoberle]

Housing not jointed ???? normally a NO GO for such a good Cabinet !!

[@PhillipBridgesReviews]

Love my Rocker 32. Thank You Orange!

[@lachlan1971]

My cousin can testify as to how sturdy my PPC112 is. It got delivered when I was at work and he had to carry it up 2 flights of stairs to my house. Not that I planned it that way.......

[@randorider2801]

Thanks for fine demonstration of proper cab construction and Texas rock. Rad video, I was just pondering cab construction.🍻

[@PotAndPeace420]

Beautiful. I love my Orange!

[@vmathias2023]

Staples for a cab build? Wasnt expecting that in a can this expensive.

[@LeichenParty]

Hello Dear Orange Team, is it possible to buy the Rexine, the Corners, the brown mesh and the Orange logo? Have a nice day.

[@patrickolivier1]

PPC412, favourite cab of all time!!! 🤘🏼😁🍊🔉🔉 🔊🔊

[@raymondgarlick4624]

I have a 35w crush and a 50w bass amp. both are great

[@gp85hkg]

At 0:19 the cabinet pieces are actually being routered...not sanded (".)

[@ArielsSmartyPants]

My ppc212 with v30s says made in USA on it. Great music, love me some Clutch :)

[@anahowana]

Normally it's made in the UK ! The open back 212 is made in China though! Never heard of a made in USA Orange cab ! Are they doing like Trace Elliot ? It was made in UK before being sold to Peavey.

[@ArielsSmartyPants]

Nope, I'm betting it's cheaper than opening them all up for customs inspection risking damage. Might as well make them in the US. The pic on Sweetwater of the back shows it plainly.

[@brightfalls6788]

“They don’t travel real well, but they sure do kick good”

[@anthonyfesta7010]

My OR32 came with the logo crooked and the mounting screws for the speakers aren’t set all the way because they leave raised bumps on the grill cloth. Amp sounds great though.

[@johnepavek]

Excellent music selection! Love me some Clutch

[@letsfuck432]

I love these amps... I wanna get one of these cabinets. Such great quality!!

[@alfonsoortiz636]

After seeing how they are manufactured, do you still believe that it is of quality? They use modern carpentry assemblies and second quality materials, I would say that they are cheap cabinets at the price of good cabinets.

[@propyro85]

Here I am, watching so I can figure out how to build myself a decent quality clone for a PPC212 V. It certainly looks like Orange doesn't cheap out on construction though.

[@feliperodriguez-xg2me]

sooooo...why are they so expensive?

[@XChristianNoirX]

felipe rodriguez Because they're Orange.. They're also heavy as sin so shipping costs a lot.

[@Grizzleback07]

felipe rodriguez My thought exactly! I would rather buy from a different manufacturer or better yet work with a cabinet maker or woodworker to create my own cabinet with speakers of my choice. Way overpriced for the workmanship.

[@XChristianNoirX]

T Scott Sweetwater prices: 1960A $949 Orange ppc412-c $1099 The Orange is quite a bit heavier and more expensive to ship. It looks a lot nicer toi, despite it's drawbacks. Tone is subjective. I have both. I mainly use the Orange. I did put two of the Marshall's speakers in it in an X pattern though. I kind of want a Mesa, ENGL Pro (perfect sound in the room for me) and Laboga 2x12 next..

[@PlatinumBlack90038]

Thomas Jefferson: These cabinets are made for ‘Tards like you! And furthermore, you do not deserve Marshall!

[@hauskins9516]

Tonewood? for Amps? Lets ask Rob Chapman or Scott Grove go into more detail on this...

[@brandonheat4982]

This is great to see. England is gonna have to bring their orange amd Marshall manufacturing back to the kingdom.

[@BoyAditya]

so satisfying watching this....

[@marclove1159]

What is that music ??? Who is that song by??? I LOVE IT !!!

[@propyro85]

It's right there when you click "more" under the description. It's A Quick Death in Texas, by Clutch.

[@fostexfan160]

A work of art!......but it would have been nice to see how the grill weave is attached to the speaker baffle? I assume its glued on?

[@joseislanio8910]

Probably stapled in place.

[@mywaveinwoodswoodperfumes]

I'm using orange crush series . Best tone of ever imagined and found true

[@Fauxleroid]

How many sick days do you get with staff putting their back out?

[@JerMz-c7b]

Maybe they're not pussies.

[@danwilhite]

Clutch Rocks!!!

[@motorrebell]

Cool very Interesting -would love to see an Orange Amp Factory - amp manufacturing process tour plz ! :-D

[@Jonathan-tn7id]

Yummy all that tangy orange goodness !!

[@kelvinham8576]

well that cabinet should color the sound distinctly. .. bet they sound 'one note bass' with a lovely boom after beat!

[@Jakeman90210]

Cool, now I can make my own

[@mattking7726]

CLUTCH

[@Livemusic1800]

Thats awesome. !!! I would love to build one of these if not something similar.

[@chapinandersen]

Hell yeah. Nice job Orange bringing on the Clutch

[@Flipper1974nz]

Very cool , i love both my Orange Cabs

[@inuitcallboy2923]

You know its real if they use orange wire🤘

[@brettgoodchild6798]

I wish these cabs weren't so damn overpriced.

[@DeadHeadmusic69]

, I just swapped a 1960A cab, loaded with v30s for the orange 212, it sound killer, I'm never going back to Marshall cabs

[@tombeattie3456]

awesome. can I have a roll of that orange logo tape please!!?

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

Clutch is best woodworking music

[@JavaoftheLava]

Something I found funny is that in the China video they use some cardboard cutouts to align the orange logo and name. Seems easier than having it made out of metal lol

[@adamnesbitt11]

One metal guide is going to last a hell of a lot longer

[@JM-ym8mm]

You mean to say that Chinese companies use lesser quality materials? I would have never guessed!

[@Blinducho]

​@@JM-ym8mmOrange factory in China

[@JM-ym8mm]

@@Blinducho Think that was my point, Bubba. 😘

[@richarddegannes2928]

Hi, Are your BT speakers made the same way and where are they made? China?

[@LivinRob]

Excellent choice of music!

[@Gutch220]

i'm surprised the wood isn't jointed, but instead stapled

[@joshflugel]

My BIG question is: Does an orange color Orange Cabinet sound different than a black color Orange cabinet?

[@joeseymour4073]

Yes, only slightly. It colors your tone a little more "orangey"... 😉

[@Reverend_Taco]

Came for the cabs, stayed for the clutch!

[@pelemoobioluwasesan4976]

I which I join this company cause I know how to build too

[@Cursingminister]

Very awesome video, I love this channel. I need more money to buy one though......

[@TheDemo999]

Hi, Where can you buy such rough wallpaper for an amplifier? I can't find it anywhere, is there a link to an internet link by any chance?

[@BradsGuitarGarage]

YEAH CLUTCH!

[@howardtaylor2405]

I don't like the way the corners are put together. Dovetail joints are superior. I also noted some shortcuts putting the Tolex on. Nailing the corner guards rather than screwing them is cheap. These cabinets may sound good but my bet is they show wear and tear quickly.

[@kaiserbach1231]

I have a orange 120w combo. the design is great, it's very loud to rock, but I think that is so heavy to be a wood cabinet. and the same question, why is so expensive? not for the cabinet for sure.

[@katmartin6447]

Nothing but the best!!

[@anthonyblancas8101]

Awesome , some days i will have one ,i will reply this coment!

[@Turboy65]

It's a pretty cheap way to make a cabinet. Marshall uses proper finger joints which makes for a better cabinet.

[@sergioruiz9464]

Does anyone know where I can get orange colored piping and what size fits an Orange Cab?

[@prostealth]

what glue is used? thats white like wood glue..

[@pipecfh]

Those wooden runners really work better? or are you too cheap to buy rubber feet?

[@fahey5719]

rubber feet get torn off if you push the cabinet sideways, "runners" get their name for a reason, they allow exactly that, they can skid on carpet or wood stages, try that with rubber feet. Fender used metal caps over rubber feet in the 60s, not any more.

[@RasCuban33]

Wish the smaller combos baffles were designed a bit better. Stapled in instead of screwed in, changing the grill cloth is a chore and a half.

[@dogger2186]

What Tolex glue are they using that it does not need to be applied to both the cab and the tolex?

[@George.Andrews.]

Its a water based pva.

[@volltroll]

so no dove joints and a big gap in the front baffle? Mesa and Marshall are so different... Just a matter of taste I guess.

[@titikputihband]

Terima kasih ilmunya, 👍👍🙏🙏

[@63zepedaj]

birch is expensive, i work at home depot...shit is 30$ + depending on width

[@leeknivek]

.... and that's just poplar with a birch veneer. baltic birch plywood is $100/sheet!

[@TheProgGuy]

My local home depot didn't stock birch plywood, so lucky you. I went to a woodworking supply store and got true birch plywood for about $40 for a half sheet. I only used about 10% so far and could easily make a 1x12 out of the rest. Not to mention I got some beautiful flame in the birch so it'll be stained and not covered in tolex

[@Sigi_Pojara]

Is this same kind of 18mm birch plywood used for TH30c combo?

[@tommysilva9804]

What is Rexine and how can I get permanent marker stains off of it ? Any suggestions are welcome...I've tried all the obvious

[@fahey5719]

You can´t. Any solvent strong enough (think Acetone) to dissolve dried up permanent ink will also dissolve Rexine and make a mess out of it. Orange looks cool but is easy to stain, that´s why most popular colour is black; worst case you can restore it.

[@Guitargasm]

This is awesome :D Great to see how they are made. Just might have to get one. ;)

[@Turboy65]

Stapled, glued, braced, and rabbeted construction is not the worst but you could do so much better. Fingerjoint those cabinet sides together for a properly strong cabinet.

[@ardipithecus11]

what a beauty

[@BendrixMc]

how do the runners change the sound???

[@notplaying2379]

I have an Orange 1 x 12 and I thought it sounded great, but after I found out that there are no dove tail joints in the construction I changed my mind. All I can hear now is the lack of fancy carpentry.

[@YeeThirty]

Funny i was going to mention something about the butt joints too haha.. not even beveled edges.. whats stopping everyone from making thier own cabinets in this exact manner? Easiest construction method out there.

[@Bloodysugar]

@@YeeThirty "whats stopping everyone from making thier own cabinets in this exact manner ?" Surely the faith that it is such a difficult task while it is not. I'll never understand people thinking they can play guitar but don't know how to use their hands to build a box. There may be an other reason though : not giving a shit about doing things by themselves and buying stuffs because that's the way consumerism works.

[@YeeThirty]

@@Bloodysugar you will feel way better by building it your self. It will give you a sense of pride knowing that you made something sick.

[@Bloodysugar]

@@YeeThirty Or just a lot of pleasure doing it, and a strong bond afterward. I'm starting with the guitar actually, then cab and pedals ;)

[@Turboy65]

Dovetail joints are only suitable for use on solid wood. Finger joints are the best choice for plywood cabinetry. The best choice for MDF/particle board cabinetry is to throw it on a bonfire.

[@andrewholtzman5235]

I have a Jim Root 2x12.It has 2 8ohm 60 watt speakers.Can anybody tell me who makes these speakers or anything about them? thanks.

[@demoninkstudios7735]

Orange Voice of the World speakers were in that model.

[@rudranath_bln]

I bought a PPC412 used for €350 the other day. It has been on tours with a german band and has seen some rough treatment. It is beaten and battered, got spray painted and what not. Sounds exactly what I need for my tone, which makes me happy, but I must say, when I opened it up the first time I was surprised about the only average build quality. Nothing special.

[@muttonbuster]

I think this is an implied advertisement for dado sets.

[@_MetaL]

Orange , or any Doombois... should i get an orange guitar amp for my strat? or a bass amp?

[@TheUltimater72]

nice pfp

[@andybrown6981]

This is an ad, right? Why have ads during it?

[@williamdozier5190]

Why do manufacturers charge more for a single speaker ext cab , than the cost of one of their combo amps?

[@fahey5719]

not the same speaker inside.

[@williamdozier5190]

@@fahey5719 no excuse ,an ext cab is just a box ,speaker and jack that’s it,no reason to charge more than amp

[@johnwade3476]

cool tune :)

[@johndextersantos9541]

why is it that they market these cabs with the "voice of the world" speaker tag while they really insert Celestion Vintage 30? . . or the video just used that clip?

[@AkiWataru]

3:00 and they using cheapest house cables xD

[@noelmajers6369]

Badass oldschool construction....

[@onlythaclonessir2525]

I STUFFED UP, BOX MAKER THOUGHT THE TOP OF THE CAB WAS NOT THE SIDE. I STUFFED UP IN OAK PLY ? PINE OR MYRTLE NOT FINE THOUGH ( GET IT STRAIGHT )

[@firststep7750]

The guitar cabinet heavy enough to double as a dam buster.

[@gp85hkg]

...and all I need to do is build them rough (and fast) and add some wooden runners for that 'unique orange sound.' (".)

[@Marugachi_Daihachi_Saporroen]

came for the cab, stayed for the song

[@1thess523]

I hear the difference in an Orange vintage 30 cab and my Line 6 Vintage 30 4x12 cab, but now i know their secret 👍.

[@spudvader]

Thank you for your work, the cab sounds fucking amazing 🤘😈🤘

[@kadewatts8177]

I'm a cabinet maker and I want to ask why use 18 mill board not 16

[@lenylenyleny]

because we can ask for more money. It doesnt improve sound but we decided to be like apple. Pay more get less

[@ThatGuy2042_]

Different thickness of panels have different panel resonances as the weight and stiffness change the way the panels vibrate. At high volumes a panel can act as an acoustic device called a "passive radiator" and emit sound out the sides and back of the cabinet at certain frequencies. Thinner ply would sound different (not necessarily bad, just different) at high volumes.

[@claasbehrens2554]

so cheap plywood, some glue and nails and a "unique picture frame design", i am a big fan

[@mojekh]

V30 still MIE in 2017?🧐😃

[@bka.rivers]

1.000 € for a non-dovetailed cabinet? WTF?

[@cruisingthethaiway6881]

I noticed the substandard construction too. They should learn how to build cabinets. Mojotone dose it much better for less.

[@ideospheremusic8002]

lifes.ill Butt joints and bracing, yikes! Not for that kind of money.

[@lenylenyleny]

And BIG BIG gap i front panel which is devided to two parts. What a shame

[@Frits1975]

I dont know what drug you are taking, but in this century a dovetail doesn't have much to do with the price. Today they're made by machine so it doesnt really affect the price as not much labour is needed. And, you won't even see it with the leather stuff on top.

[@iliketoUSEmybrain017]

You're right, it's not about price or appearance. It's about the strength of the joint and it's ability to resist racking.