Orangeburg Pipe Failure

[@kenwoodcoda]

I'm impressed. That job deserves combat pay.

[@donaldlee6760]

I live in Oakland California and I have 4-inch orangeburg pipes that carry water away from my raingutter downspouts to the downhill area of my property. My pipes also ovalized over the 58 years since my home was originally built in 1966. I replaced a few sections of orangeburg drainage pipes and noted that they shatter if hit hard enough with a shovel or a hammer. My interior plumbing was installed with copper pipes and cast iron drain pipes. I've opened a few sections of cast iron over the past decade and the inside is in great shape and should easily last another 100 years, but I suspect it's because my pipes are above ground in my crawl space.

[@Daryl3737]

Great seeing your videos again! I always learn a thing or 5 :)

[@John-cb6wn]

I really enjoy watching your videos

[@johnalbrecht4332]

Thanks for sharing the video👍this is good content, keep up the great work

[@tomdale1313]

NOT YOUR FIRST RODEO, NOT BY A LONG SHOT...good job of keeping and staying clean

[@ausseamore8386]

Good work thanks for sharing👍👍👍👍

[@skhan66]

Yip, i had and still have Orangeburg pipe in my septic system, house built in 1960, the pipe is pretty good to last 50 plus years. I had replaced the line from my d-box to the dry wells with new ABS , they were still functioning fine accept the line going from the septic collection tank to D-box was restricted, i called a camera service compony just to probe where the restriction was and told me it was roots that got in the pipe. Orangeburg gets soft and collapses over time. roots entered into a seam joint, not the pipe itself. I did not replace the whole length from tank to D-box as it would be a major repair, so i had just dug up the area where the restriction was and replaced it with abs like you did, it was just a single pipe. Its been 7 years now and i have no issues yet. I know i will have to replace the rest of line at some point in time but so far so good. I was told they used this pipe during and after the war as a substitute for steel pipe as the steel was being diverted to support the industrial war effort.

[@aday1637]

I had one where there was so little room to work I finally brought the pipes together, wrapped the area where the met with plastic trash bags and poured cement over the entire area to form what was basically a cement fitting. It was highly temporary too, like this one but the dude and his family could use the toilet again, for a while longer. Orangeburg sucks.

[@randyriggs5463]

Nice work. I bet that it wasn't easy tieing that sanitary in! Customer should be happy for now

[@dkdj5]

If you use a bar clamp or something with a fair amount of surface area, after heating the pipe squeeze the pipe as needed to make it round. After it cools it will stay when taking the clamp off. The crack in the tank won't cause any problems. Most these old tanks don't even have sealer around the inlet or outlet pipes. Just dirt holding it in. There's no pressure.

[@aday1637]

I had the same thought. Take a clamp off a fernco and use it while hot. Leave enough room for the new fernco to go over the end and probably leave the original clamp in place for the few years left before the entire pipe is useless. Orangeburg must have promised improvement over clay or cast iron when it was sold. No one knew it ovaled out, I guess. Or didn't care.

[@andygulick6085]

Produced in Orangeburg NY by the Fiber Conduit Company. Hence the name

[@suzylarry1]

good job we don't have SMELLOVISION

[@duotronic6451]

This is why plumbers make the big buck$$$.

[@wooddawg4868]

You need to switch to Hulk green clamps.

[@bstiger6482]

After 45+ yrs in the utility industry, I would recommend a Fernco coupling over a no-hub. It is heavier for UG burial, and has more bite (longer) on each pipe, and slides to and from for easier installation. Also, a big mistake you made was NOT to use sand or gravel under the pipe for support. With the wet condition and soft ground, that should have been a "no brainer" decision, or maybe lack of experience.

[@ScubaCat3]

At the end he said it wasn't correct and was temporary. In those cases you just go with what you have on the truck.

[@bstiger6482]

@@ScubaCat3 But that is the reason he was having so much of a problem fitting up the connections. But the lack of gravel is inexcusable.

[@aday1637]

@@bstiger6482 He stated he didn't know if they were even going to fill it in as the tank is junk.

[@FloydAlbright]

Like trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear . I think orangeberg was used during war times when iron and steel went for the war effort .

[@eddiereichel9354]

The glue us supose ro go on before priner dries. Or so the instructions on the can say

[@williamloder9194]

Wow That didn't happen over night. They have had that problem for a while and didn't know it ? I think I would have hired a septic company and replace all back to the house. Guessing it exits the house cast iron ? Remaining orangeburg could collapse . Just the weight of the ground is making it out of round over time. They need a new tank. Is there a baffle in that tank ? I still run into orangeburg pipe once in a while. Guessing that piping was used from the 30's into the 60's ?. Before that clay tile pipe ? Think orangeburg isa little bigger diameter than PVC, Fernco makes a coupling for that I think ?? Good fix Happy New Year

[@Shawn_RHVAC]

May have been easier to use a 4” clay to 4” pvc adapter. It’s made for the larger size pipe with the thicker walls.

[@plumbbuild6517]

I quit working on septic drains unless I’m replacing most of the pipes I don’t repair junk pipe I’ll replace it or the customer will have to get a septic guy , but when I use to work on jobs like that I would put blue painters tape all over the toilet handles and turn off the water aswell because of the customers flushing the toilet while trying to work on the drain lines.

[@aday1637]

I dislike orangeburg so much, if it were up to me I'd make the manufacturer drink all the liquid inside all of it made. Did I say I dislike the stuff? I like Fernco's with 2 straps and probably would have used a hub to no-hub one for this job, tightening each side independant of the other on each connection. I get it, though. This is highly temporary. But still like throwing good money after bad. I got so sick with mono from dealing with sewer water I had to find a different trade. Good luck.

[@talusranch990]

What's an orange burg

[@Petrochemtester]

Pipe made out something like thick tar paper - notorious for collapsing. I believe it was common during a past war - where traditional pipe material was rationed.

[@edwardkuntush9339]

Thanks for sharing always enjoying warching

[@KevinHarvey-qw5mj]

What is orange burg pipe like a cardboard rolls carpet comes on if you drive down the street and the front yards in the middle have a dip in them they used that worthless pipe orange burg

[@kerrygirone6071]

I get we are fellow plumbers but do not let the primer dry before you cement the pipe! 21 to all that know and if you know 21 you don't know leaks