Land Expropriation in SA | ORANIA REACTS

[@Orania123]

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[@zim961]

Go back to Europe this is our Africa you have been benefiting from colonialism for a long time

[@MixxdudeZondi]

ZUMA AND MALEMA they being heard'The Majority of South Africans are supporting the revolution 😂🎉 ,Just look Africa it changing All leaders how Taking Presidential chair their abandoning The system that was apose to Us with out our will and from now on it our will😊

[@leonanightingale7506]

But u all forget this is what APARTHEID did many years ago

[@Augfordpdoggie]

you should allow white americans to come and live in orania, if we abide by your rules, and value your values. im tired of listening to gangster rap music, and amapiano.

[@Kleva_Pmlani]

@@leonanightingale7506 No it didn't... Prove it

[@FanoNgcobo]

As a Black person I ask myself the question - what amd how will they use the property they are expropriating. They can't even improve the quality of life in the townships.

[@LaughingMan44]

@@FanoNgcobo they won't give the land to you, but for themselves friends and family

[@petrusesterhuyzen2087]

Yep, 80% of land belongs to the state, KZN and parts of mapumalanga/eastern free state belong to the zulu monarchy

[@brendakruger2597]

They are useless.

[@nehemiagideonvandeventer3858]

100% nail on the head​@@LaughingMan44

[@davidroux7987]

The problem is that black majority rule can only fail. And we all suffer.

[@garthbunting8823]

The time has come to get serious, not only for Afrikaaners but for all reasonable citizens

[@JT-ts6nr]

@@garthbunting8823 What did your apartheid system do to reasonable citizens in their day. Reasonable citizens are the ones who can see how arrogant the Afrikaner really is. You do not deserve any sympathy.

[@boomshlang]

voting works....

[@petrusesterhuyzen2087]

All those without employment & job prospects

[@loistoy3403]

Agree 👍

[@maldiesmaldas7711]

Don’t panic; legal action is guaranteed by the separation of powers in South Africa. It is expropriation, not confiscation. And it is not wild west and random.

[@EmmaNoelaGrace]

For all South Africans, including Afrikaners and others. We deserve fair governance.

[@MARSHALLWiCK_FX]

Move to Orania

[@Klaas-y3p]

it was fair when land was taken by force.WA NYELA

[@Aesyrbane]

You aren't gonna get it in Africa. Wake up to reality

[@Klaas-y3p]

@@Aesyrbane maretago

[@TeebangLloyd-j3w]

"All South Africans when it's beneficial to you?... How ironic 🙄

[@leighbehrens5380]

This not just about Orinia... It's time for us all need to stand together... It's time!!!! ENGLISH PEOPLE TOO!!!

[@itumelengmahaole5890]

I agree. Are black people also welcome?

[@margaretmeaker2830]

​@itumelengmahaole5890 yes - anyone who is against this "act".. in fact the more of us that say "no" all the better. This is plain communism. Us South Africans don't want to go this route. Government must be put in place- they are supposed to serve the people not the other way around.

[@AndrewMcFarlane_1]

English people are wimps... I know this because I'm Scottish

[@josievaccaro]

On-board. South Africans!

[@josievaccaro]

​@@itumelengmahaole5890 we are South Africans ❤

[@serenechilwane8520]

As a black person i am supporting you protect your people cause we are not protected only criminals

[@thembelakhuzwayo547]

Orania is only for Afrikaners, not for you as you claim to be black. Orania must be expropriated without compensation and be re-distributed to black people.

[@brucelang1201]

Good man

[@maqabah]

Clever black. I'm sure you rich staying in whites area and hate your skin colour

[@CBaule-wm2xv]

Sometime is better not to says anything than to sound stupid.

[@paulvandervyver4223]

​@CBaule-wm2xv so why did you say something here? Talking about stupid...

[@BenTen734]

Communism...period

[@Michael-hm8cs]

a la wef and UN

[@patrictshwenyane5819]

Nope it is not, it is nationalism.

[@Michael-hm8cs]

@ clueless

[@victormarrotti2575]

Take what is yours

[@ReginaldTomeletsoModise-z5d]

Communism my foot. You have always been snobbish hypocrites, which i's why you are so selective when you allocate labels. Was it (not) communism when the apartheid government evicted blacks from their lands and allocated the same to Afrikaaners? Is this not correcting the imbalances about by your racist ancestors? Orania. What is it? Is it not a symbol glorifying and perpetuating racism? Might is right yes. Might of the majority and not the might of the gun.

[@comancheflyer4903]

The quality of a nation's politicians is a reflection of the society that elects them into power.

[@d7g-i6p]

Very well said. Agree 100%

[@KimStein-tc9kz]

EXACTLY.....AND MAJORITY SA SOCIETY IS IGNORANT OF THE TRUTH. They don't see what's happening or just don't care. ANC ALSO PUSH THE RACE CARD TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

[@SolomonNkosi-nx3ww]

Correction, well, to a larger extent yes I agree, see in 2029 how they will drop and re-elect the same people just different jerseys(MK) NOW BE REALLY REALLY SCARED, projection is MK wont win, not even the majority(HSRC), people are starting to wake-up, that doesnt mean they'll prefer the insane oppression they experienced before, but rather a country, as described by Pieter Groenewald "that is made up of citizens capable of building it to new heights". Well, of course, if it is only a statement and not action, then possible civil war will happen cos one side will be unhappy yet the other is, if there are ulterior motives..

[@rushnande3731]

Yes the majority of us are stupid including myself

[@InspectorYT]

Sad, but true! If the citizens are very fortunate, the myriad non-ANC parties, perhaps led by the DA, which is opposing the oppressors, locally, if not internationally, will help sort out the scoundrels ready to fleece black and white South Africans of all language groups.

[@mervernrose6595]

I am coloured. Use to vote for DA but changed my vote last year to Patriotic Alliance. I am totally against Land Expropriation without Compensation. South Africans missed an opportunity to vote for Gayton McKenzie. I know that some Orania residents did vote for him. Instead some whites insulted and humiliated him. Nou dit ons were met die KAK. We must open open eyes and vote with our heads and not with our hearts. Gayton spoke out many times against this. Salute 🙏🙏🙏💚💚💚

[@LucilleGeldenhuys]

Im a women of God no matter what your race is,,Gayton i will never vote for him or any other party,only DA.Gayton and Patricia of Good party are the same fake dance with ANC!!DA is s lawless party,thing get handle the right way in court!!As a coloured women that live through Apartheid is still doing fine in the name of Jesus Christ!!The white man look after the people and then and even now!!The coloured people the stood with ANC where are they died for nothing,so coloured paries just talk and also do nothing for our people !!So me anything that Gayton Makenzie or Patricia De LIL did than talk noncence about DA!!As South Africans we need to go down on our knees repent snd pray do that this will only come to nothing.ANC did nothing but steel and kill who oppose them like EFF and MK party!! Zuma should be in prison but still around not si ck when he's dancing like a clown!!Just remember you ANC and other parties were and still are against Isreal!!You mess with God's people and this is what happened!!Im not affraid because my God Almighty is s Humble Father!!My God will turn it around in the Mighty Name off Christ Jy i pray eith s humble ❤️!!To God be the God be the Glory forevermore AMEN!!

[@SandileLithoyi]

You claim to be a colored.. but you speak like afrikaner.. I doubt if you know coloreds are Africans... and this act will benefit you as well.. maybe drugs destroyed your way of thinking.

[@360eagleeye4]

Time for voting is over. It splits up everyone. Now we must know it is time to stand together.

[@felicitytaylor3764]

DA also against this bill but Gayton is also getting things done I wish PA and DA could put their differences aside and amalgamate and rule SA

[@kat_lgd4731]

😂😂😂😂 identity crisis is playing you fana

[@philliproberts3180]

Brilliant discussion. Thankyou.

[@SJVR4758]

Desperate party resorts to desperate measures

[@coachjoachimroomaney793]

They can push it bill through but the chances that they will abuse this law is slim to non.

[@joecruiser]

They're now at their most dangerous. They Will persist and go even further in demolishing citizens rights! Took only 31 years to enact their true agenda

[@jayjacobs8486]

All south Africans should reject all this disguised criminality!No one will have the land except if u r a member of ANC or if u r a comrade.People who r going to benefit r ANC brotherhood.All poor people will remain landless.

[@coachjoachimroomaney793]

@jayjacobs8486 That is exactly why it is being pushed through. You tell us of the poor, as if you care. Do you get it by now? Every time you kick the poor down, you going get it back ten times worse. What did the rich do to help? Absolutely nothing, and this is why these type of things happen. It is called politics- you maneuver to far right, the situation adjust to extreme left.

[@coachjoachimroomaney793]

@jayjacobs8486 Fear porn, nobody scared of the ANC except whites. Certain targets are necessary, not all. This isn't about the farmers, and people know it. They know who they are. And even Ramaposa must remember that his PHala Phala farm can be on the list.

[@Belta-o2b]

You work very hard to take SA forward. We will not accept this. Stand up all SA. Stop this stupidity. We all pay for what we have. Nobody can take anything from any owner. This includes every owner.

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

It started in 1652

[@ahmedserekonyane3339]

The ppl that were removed from that land were not given a choice, when ANC made an offer to buy the land from them they refused

[@chronicali4204]

​@@phumlamazibuko3003 you know fokol 😂

[@femz6438]

You worked very hard to steal and kill. THEIF give back what is not yours and go back to Europe. DEMON

[@Madridpepe]

Never give up, never step back, never cede. Fight, fight, fight.

[@rendanindou3593]

You perish

[@ronelpeens7366]

@@rendanindou3593 for a greater cause darling, which I'm sure you know nothing about ...

[@jayjacobs8486]

Well this ANC will only enrich their comrade and nothing else

[@MFmotaung]

Who will you fight

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@rendanindou3593 everyone perish, not you. everyone you smart ass.

[@FlagshipStorage-z5s]

Orania is the best example of a little country that survived against all odds we have to follow them and learn no school overcrowding no potholes no crime no loadshedding no corruption ❤

[@SenzoMavimbela]

Why should people come to a countrh running then build their own country where they embrace a reputation of history thag was evil and brutal

[@GabrielMotlhabane-og5by]

Go back home to Europe if you have this mentality.build the whole south Africa together.

[@zukracode2181]

Thank you very much senzo . How do u establish a country in another countr 😂😂😂😂😂. That's frivolous. No country in their true sense of mind would allow this. Even if its constitutionally provided for . y​@@SenzoMavimbela

[@Shadowyartsdirty3]

@@zukracode2181 Lesotho is a country in another country. However the main difference being Lesotho people from different backgrounds can migrate there where as the other one is built on a racist principle based of colonisation.

[@zukracode2181]

@Shadowyartsdirty3 lesotho case is an exception because it happened during the olden days . We are now living in a democratic dispensation. We are not going to spit on the graves of those who fought and sacrificed their lives for this democracy. Forget it

[@user-mr9xe6lr3y]

ANC is showing its true self now.

[@Chieff30gamess]

That good …we taking our land back

[@thewildkids406]

​@@Chieff30gamessbut only the productive, nicely paved, beautifully landscaped land, ne? And then turn it into a rubbish dump in two years, ne!

[@MpumeleloNgidi]

@@Chieff30gamess These people thinks we are fool this is Africa we are taking it back legally

[@marloeveltman423]

@@user-mr9xe6lr3y They actually showed them true colors years ago.

[@JohanErasmus-l1r]

Following the Mugabe playbook for Zimbabwe. When his party lost some popularity, land was appropriated and "redistributed" to ensure the continued longevity of his dictatorship. We all know where Zim economy ended up, don't we...and so the ANC votes fell to 40 odd % in the latest election, hence this radical step? Government is on thin ice here...very.

[@TheUsualSuspect-b8p]

Well Zim was sanctioned,so now people must fear taking back what's theirs because of sanctions?. The West don't own Africa,and it's about time they realise this, because this isn't gonna happen in SA only. The whole of Africa will rise. BRICS is the future.

[@mzidaslampoet9883]

Please do state the correct history of Zim not your false narrative

[@LaughingMan44]

@@mzidaslampoet9883 why don't you

[@debraanderson3395]

​@mzidaslampoet9883 what is the correct history of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe???

[@marcebresler1842]

​@@debraanderson3395 It's complicated and vast but truth lies in the sins of our fathers, in those that settled peacefully and those that colonised, seeing value in the land and through segregation took land from the natives. It was a different time then, as all before. Times of conquest, diplomacy and savagery... but history tends to repeat itself. I like to think in this day and age that those manners of being are beneath us and we can grow together as one people and remove the shackles of the past by doing a bit of good for one another each and every day no matter whose history is rightful or wrongful.

[@MILC0M]

Steenhuisen is Ramamparra 's lapdancer

[@cig35661]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gordongraham2003]

Steenhuisen is a snake, birds of a feather flock together. He will sell us for his own gain👍

[@georgestegmann5155]

Ruggraatloos!!!!!!

[@gordongraham2003]

👍👍👍👍

[@almadlicka2410]

Unfortunately the Afrikaner is very divided. They need to combine their resources and work together. Regards & all the best from 🇮🇱. I spent 2 weeks in Orania and loved it

[@zm1786]

praying for your success. Love from the US

[@LollyClarke]

We need Donald Trump

[@Bantu-860]

@LollyClarke, what is that turtleneck going to do? The AES kicked them out, and there is nothing he can do. Even that fascist Elon won't do anything.

[@keabetswe_80]

@@Bantu-860 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 turtleneck classic

[@keabetswe_80]

@@Bantu-860 😂😂😂😂😂 turtleneck classic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@antonhuman8446]

Many thanks!

[@andrez3640]

Most people will be shocked to know how much land is owned and governed by the Government.

[@angieharvett5591]

And still nothing is going on there on that land of the government Funny ne😂disgrace

[@susanrodgers9854]

I think this a good study to do!

[@loveharmonylounge]

​@@angieharvett5591only 19% can you imagine?in a country where Africans are majority what a shame

[@sirjamesjemo3390]

Please help us know

[@beverlykerr6590]

As a first generation South African I pray for the people of Orania. What you are doing is amazing and I am rather envious! CR is a poisonous little man and one wonders when they will finally realize the Communism does not work!

[@ingridwyngaard6701]

You are actually correct in everything you both said. As a person of colour, I find this bill so disturbing and and making the public feel uncertain. Yet the majority persons will be in favour due to lack of understanding, but rather wanting to gain. Please fight to the end. This government actually needs to leave urgently. We need people you has vision and want this country to grow. Thank you for the information.

[@truth-Hurts375]

Go Read the bill Domkop !!!!

[@mzukhology5177]

There is no person of colour that writes out English in this manner 😂😂😂

[@xhalanga]

"....Yet the majority persons will be in favour due to lack of understanding, but rather wanting to gain..." That's your problem coloured people, not ours. You always think you know better and are smarter than the majority. Whereas it's not the case but remnants of apartheid in your mind.

[@volcherek8925]

I hope the Oranians are putting food on your children's plates as you seem to really worship their white skin.. This is Africa, they can have their white only orania in europe not here. "As a person of colour, I find this bill so disturbing and and making the public feel uncertain. Yet the majority persons will be in favour due to lack of understanding, but rather wanting to gain. Please fight to the end" What on earth is a person of color? I am an African, I don't have an identity crisis like you and your entire statement depicts a severe case of an intellectually challenged and confused person. Your case is so sad

[@maxbray7177]

This is the end of peace 🕊️. Good luck to the farmers. Zimbabwe..

[@jeppiengonyamah354]

Did u think that you will get away with murder?😁Return the stolen land back to the rightful owners - period!!

[@barbaraholzmann946]

Only if the people of South Africa lie down like obedient puppy dogs instead of uniting and demanding that this bill be scrapped - if they pass this it will be on all those who stood back and allowed it!

[@OTline]

What do you mean end of peace 🤔❓​@@PieterdeBruyn

[@gift7233]

🎉​@@OTlineWho will compensate our forefathers who lost their land from colonialist?.

[@SiphoGabrielTsele]

Nothing will stop Azanians from chasing Away the Enemy.lzwelèthu.

[@rev.valeriehamann4049]

God bless Orania - please make space for me there ...

[@AnhAxg0dx]

god truly blessed them , I mean they are in danger now Lol

[@andrevangraan6074]

NO! They're not on danger..... but they have to prepare for all eventualities. Ruby Ridge and the stand taken by the Bundy Boys, the Weaver family in the US is how we RESIST! If God before us who can be against us?

[@NakaMonxo]

@@andrevangraan6074😂😂such gibberish, at least Australia is waiting for you.

[@andrevangraan6074]

@ Nah! You need a criminal record to get into Australia! 🤣 Die Land.....watch the video.😘

[@Ngutu441]

@@andrevangraan6074You people think God is for you and only love you guys!! God is for us!! Land should be expropriated and be used for the benefits of all residents of the Country.

[@goodbarbenie5477]

Dis nou tyd ons Mense a streep in die sand trek... Fokken genoeg is genoeg. It is said when the people fear the government is is called Tyranny. But when the government fears the people it is called Liberty 🗽.... Dis nou tyd.😢😮😢.

[@garthbunting8823]

Stem saam

[@certified_nobody_lll]

I disagree with your opinion

[@LeeRamsunder]

Katlego's podcasts CITIZEN CONCERNED..sums up the ANC and their comrades..everyone should watch it. Very, very insightful.

[@Tebogo16v]

That's just her opinions.shes a DA supporter.so there is no fair reporting.

[@LeonKotze70]

@@Tebogo16v she is not a DA supporter... where do you get that from?

[@LeeRamsunder]

@@LeonKotze70 She just brings out the truth.

[@Cent51]

​@@Tebogo16v found the biggest cuant , sit down you doos of poes. Proper cuant..

[@boomshlang]

@@Tebogo16v agree DA is not a good party, they are rotten in their core and their G4S money proves it.

[@neillaverty4042]

My the Good Lord watch over Orania and all the people of South Africa. May he protect the innocent and guide the leaders into the light and away from the temptations of darkness. Amen. Love from the UK.

[@marloeveltman423]

They are still South Africa.

[@xhalanga]

Charity begins at home. Pray for those minorities that are perpetually marginalised and cannot even thing of getting their own versions of Orania in the UK or anywhere else in Europe.

[@itumelengmosailane1192]

Don't forget to pray for Africans you are deporting in UK

[@kevinrtres]

Thanks for your prayers - we are certainly going to need all the help we can get - especially from the ONLY One who can save us.

[@maqabah]

​@@kevinrtres just think of 2021 unrest it was a sign of how black unity does when they are angry 😠 😡

[@samsonkjoseph6087]

Sterk wees ons mense, ons Hemelse Vader Jesus Christus met ons.

[@JT-ts6nr]

Julle het nie omgegee oor Jesus Christus toe die Afrikaner al hul mag gebruik het om mense te onderdruk nie. Nou is dit julle wat huil. Wees net bly dat die mense wat julle so sleg behandel het nie julle ook dieselfde behandel nie.

[@pastorcalistusndlovu3061]

Niet Jezus van Nazareth 😂

[@xhalanga]

@@KatRSA they probably had their own version of Jesus which encouraged the crimes against humanity, including countless massacres, they had always committed. It is obviously not the same as the Jesus who warned "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." - John 10:10 Who did all those things to us and our forefathers? So that we may not have life as the real Jesus, that was black, says in that verse?

[@barbaraholzmann946]

Jesus is with us YES, even in us but if we don't fight for our rights there is nothing He can do - We have the power through The Holy Spirit, but will we bow down? or face the Lion's den????

[@doreenhelena3714]

And the Bible says God will bless those who bless Him and curse those who curse Him. What did ramaphosa do at the ICJ with Israel . We need God back in our country before God will bless this country

[@paulfritz4249]

So is ramaposa farms allso up for us could white and black get the some deal.

[@marloeveltman423]

No not at all. He is not an Afrikaner

[@marloeveltman423]

There are so many beautiful African farmers in our Country and just thinking what will be done to them

[@angieharvett5591]

Hahaha no it's not Ramaposa is black have a black 🖤 to and no breins Don't you see what's happening bella bill to get whits out now this to get white out Hier kom grt kaaak oorlog is baie naby Anc fuckoff they are all dumb no medicine for dum people And here comes 2 Zimbabwe kyk maar SA is gone En nog steeds vote mense vir anc maar anc het 30 jaar regeer nog steeds kan hul nie hul mense optel nie Ons is nog erger af as ooit van te vore

[@sabelodlamini5590]

how do you think SA should address the Land question?

[@SuperToffee22]

I am a third generation English speaking South African and I and my family support Orania 100%. All citizens of conscience should stand against this disgraceful bill. Shame on the ANC this is a betrayal of everything you claimed to stand for during the so-called Freedom struggle. Countries throughout Africa supported you and gave you refuge and now you encourage Xenophobia among your followers. You inherited a beautiful fully functioning country with a strong economy and infrastructure from the previous govt. and you have destroyed it. Yes, apartheid was shameful which is why we all voted for change. Our hopes, dreams and the trust of millions of poor supporters of the ANC have been utterly betrayed by an orgy of corruption, looting and incompetence. May we remind the ANC that you are no longer a majority govt. the people have spoken. May we also remind the Govt of National Unity members that you need to wake up and act with courage and resolve against the ANC instead of hopping on the gravy train!

[@LeeRamsunder]

@@SuperToffee22 Agreed..please stand up and be counted. Bad things happen When good people remain silent .

[@NgugiKamau-rr3zp]

@@SuperToffee22 ok,but historical land injustice MUST be a prerequisite.and all other low lying fruits apartheid appropriated from blacks.otherwise the kalashnikov will be dusted n oiled.regards FM Kenya where land,though sadly not all came back.what you have down south is completely unacceptable.and Zimbabwe is doing fantastic.

[@lindayhukutwana3861]

​@@NgugiKamau-rr3zpZimbabwe is doing fantastic? Where? When? Why are Zimbabweans all fighting not to go home? You're not funny.

[@lindayhukutwana3861]

Redistribute to whom n how?

[@NgugiKamau-rr3zp]

@@lindayhukutwana3861 go to Harare n see.things are looking up.n Zimbabweans taught a world lesson about defeating sanctions,get rid of your currency n adopt the dollar n consequently become a defacto other state of america.ofcourse there's more collectable cash in south Africa due to historical reasons but I suspect it's overhyped western press and whites afraid of the current European poverty n homelessness,driving buses in London n Amsterdam

[@michaelcorke8586]

You bought it, you built it, you fight for it.

[@magdapienaar7215]

Amen.............!

[@tshiamishogopane633]

What do you mean fight?

[@KoenaKleen]

Bought from who?

[@Dalf80s]

​@@tshiamishogopane633keep scratching the lions ball.

[@Klaas-y3p]

bought it from who. WA NYELA SEUN

[@zachariazwichawuya814]

It started like this in zim

[@wellingtonmagarasadza9540]

Zim is an awakening giant, it was a hard pill to swallow but now it's healing ....Zim is enduring self reliance now

[@longiusaescius2537]

@wellingtonmagarasadza9540 hmm

[@jeppiengonyamah354]

So what?😁😁

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

Lawo makwere agcwele futhi liyaphawula😂😂😂

[@tauzin7]

Land redistribution is a necessary 'evil'. There will be growing pains but the objectives are noble. Calling land redistribution Communism is narrow and tragic. Why these labels? Why shouldn't we look at government programs as good or bad? We are fanning negative emotions and rattling people by these labels.

[@sergiopinto6004]

I’m not an Afrikaaner but I have to agree with your factually opinions

[@kat_lgd4731]

go and Agree in Europe

[@isiseshisewebhu]

Facts are not opinions. Opinion is cranial flatulence, typically baseless. Stick to proven facts.

[@chriscoetzer3766]

As ek dit nie kan hê wat myne is gaan hy / hulle dit ook nie hê! Belowe jou.

[@quartusbuys6831]

Ek brand alles af tot op die grond, al het ek my g@t afgewerk vir dit!

[@itumelengmosailane1192]

We will see I feel sorry for people like you

[@zukracode2181]

I feel sorry too😂😂😂😂. Do u even have an army .

[@itumelengmosailane1192]

@@zukracode2181 I have prophecy and no one is bigger than prophecy

[@zukracode2181]

@itumelengmosailane1192 do u know the black South African history. Do u know What We went through. U don't have a clue . Orania has a nerve to start thus when they know what our history looks like. Why sobthry think they are special to have a country in another country . Your GOD is our GOD too.

[@TebogoLeeu]

I love the peace in Orania ❤

[@user-qs8ep7rh2w]

You stupid

[@marthamotuba3825]

@@TebogoLeeu ME TOO 🖐️I WISH 🙈🇿🇦💔 LET'S PRAY 🙏

[@bonganingcobo4972]

Go and stay in Orionia and see😂😂😂😂

[@NMGOQITHAKHELI-p4y]

Sorry I'm back South African please don't stress yourself white people we are all South Africans please let's join our hands together and live together with peace ❤ you all🙏🏻💯❤

[@KimStein-tc9kz]

Yes that's what us citizens want BUT THE ANC ARE CAUSING STRIFE. AS LONG AS CYRIL IS PRESIDENT OUR COUNTRY WILL NEVER FLOURISH.

[@LeeRamsunder]

There will be no peace with the ANC in power..they are the root of all evil.

[@ahmedserekonyane3339]

Are U saying we must force ourselves into their lives,it doesn't mean that because the ANC is ruling they will also change the way they look at blacks

[@nomthandazomacayi9585]

Don't lie you are not a South African.

[@ahmedserekonyane3339]

@nomthandazomacayi9585 🤣Why do say so

[@JoshPorts]

Stay strong ya-ll. From usa.

[@marloeveltman423]

Thank you Josh❤

[@joecruiser]

SA is now officially fucked.

[@zukracode2181]

Josh is not from the US.

[@Secede4OurNewFuture]

Help supply them with Support that Americans have a lot in no?

[@JoshPorts]

@@zukracode2181 I'm not?

[@leonbezuidenhout5085]

This laws cannot be constitutional it needs to be fought in the constitutional court

[@AlbertSmook-tu9cu]

Jy sal tot in ewigheid altyd met hofsake jou regte moet beskerm, watse toekoms spel dit vir jou. ?

[@MorgMorg-uf6ps]

Its a corporate take over and only corporate law will apply...no human rights or freedom. Yet people vote, support, enable and are complicit in crimes against humanity (themselves)...its insane😢

[@patrictshwenyane5819]

It is constitutional. read section 25

[@xhalanga]

but you reckon the Land Grab by your ancestors in 1912/13 needs to be undone? What's your view on that?

[@thomasbisschoff7136]

@@patrictshwenyane5819 if section 5 allows it why change the law?

[@odinsviking6196]

They thought they could negotiate with a snake, and now we are all bitten. Now we wait and see how poisonous it's bite is.

[@lindenhardy9021]

Venomous, not poisonous. 🙏

[@femz6438]

You Demons like calling black people Snakes on our own land. This is Africa not America Demon Theif

[@glenturrell4485]

Thank you gentlemen for this very important clip. You are showing us the way forward and I'm truly grateful. May God bless you all.

[@nomattergezanimakondo]

The Raw Truth About South Africa's Infamous 'ORANIA' Town kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHe6qGeVfbx-h68

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

As an English speaking white, I want to declare my total commitment to the defence of the farms by our boere. We must stand united and fight. We must get Trump involved as well.

[@rachael-777]

I agree. He will definitely help clean this shithole

[@Sibusisirambo]

Trump has his own country to run. Trump supports Israel so how can he support white south Africans? According to him people should take their lands by force

[@KlaraRoux_ART]

Apply 'scorched earth' to all forms of tangible property before confiscated. Give them nothing. Leave them nothing.

[@boomshlang]

sad backup plan

[@andrevangraan6074]

Your property includes bank accounts, cars, stocks, livestock, body, children, houses, land, farms, your inalienable rights granted by God. Will you run or will you fight?

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

​@@andrevangraan6074We are born ready, 1879 we won

[@frankleighgodfrey153]

Willful damage to property is punishable by imprisonment, let the international passports of Orania residents and those of similarly situated and comparable individuals be tagged, in anticipation of potential scorched earth crimes.

[@brianmolele7264]

See what happens after you do that.

[@simonmakgoba2466]

God bless Orania

[@JT-ts6nr]

Which god?

[@pastorcalistusndlovu3061]

Welke God?

[@pastorcalistusndlovu3061]

Welke God?

[@KisoTrade]

God of invaders? 🤔

[@hendrikhenning728]

You are no pastor of God

[@thomasbisschoff7136]

I don't think it will be constitutional. Wish you well from England.

[@MaleWairer-n6n]

We are writing our own constitution come 2029

[@Bantu-860]

No more cheap gas from a gas station that parades as a country. Your industry is going down the drain because you people decided to blow the Nordstream pipeline. Where is the brain from the so-called super race?

[@CritikillACClaimed]

​@@MaleWairer-n6nfree bananas 🍌 for everyone? Ooga booga

[@amilesangweni3823]

​@@CritikillACClaimed islam for Europe

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

You need 2/3​@@MaleWairer-n6n

[@d15roy]

Just because it's signed into law doesn't make it any less ethical or moral.

[@mdushaka6403]

This is the beginning of the collapse of South African economy. That's how it started in Zimbabwe watch that space 👀

[@amossongca342]

Your cowardness is in the highest level of stupidity, this conversation is about the protection of afrikaners. Blacks are not included.

[@vleis2543]

Cyril is really desperate for his survival. He will be gone soon..

[@Meraikie]

He is definitely desperate. He thinks he will win votes!..... dommie!

[@Claudia-ie3gu]

Let's hope

[@NirmalaMoodley-h2l]

God bless Orania. 🙌

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

Nahla nizincrngela nina😂😂😂nincela amathe abo😅

[@marcusee7186]

🤮

[@Klaas-y3p]

the first land to be taken

[@genie9781]

"Ons sal lewe, ons sal sterwe - Ons vir jou, Suid-Afrika."

[@Klaas-y3p]

go to holland where you belong

[@rachael-777]

Orange white & blue

[@Klaas-y3p]

@@rachael-777this is not 1976

[@ThePHILA123]

I'm a black woman I truly support Orania they mind their own business and protect their families plus they don't border anybody. I wish they could rule South Africa. About tax money, I think it's unfair to tax people then the beginning of the year nothing returns.

[@LeeRamsunder]

All most South African's want is for this country to run PROPERLY..THE ANC HAS NO CLUE HOW TO RUN IT FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. PLEEEZ STEP DOWN HONOURABLE COMRADES ..GIVE HONEST, CARING ,POLITICIANS A CHANCE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE .the ANC is trying every trick to garner votes.

[@sabelodlamini5590]

udakiwe wena

[@johanvoigt2652]

And worst of all, no one in the world even cares. We are alone now.

[@godfreyberry1599]

The entire world beat us to death with the Apartheid stick. So they are fully complicit in this 30 year decline and the extreme poverty of the majority of South Africans.

[@Brazil2934]

The loser US president peanut farmer did allot of damage to SA. But I’m an American and I support South Africa. I will continue to support Orania.

[@Secede4OurNewFuture]

I and others do care. Orania is an inspiration and its models demonstrated the way forwards

[@thewildkids406]

​@@Brazil2934was that Barry?

[@fransmurati2370]

Dit wat hy nou gedoen dra WEF se DAVOS stempel.

[@mano46926]

You are 100 % spot on. It's all about the nwo which wef are bringing. Ramaphosa steenhuizen are just puppets to Klaus Schwabb similar evil things like this are happening all over the west in different forms just look at the UK and Europe

[@yonicocampbell590]

This is very bad for the economy. History has shown us that when there is no proper protection of property rights investment in the country decreases. What that means is still foreign direct investment decreases, people not willing to open companies in South Africa because the land they buy can be taken away. The timing of this enactment is especially bad because president Trump has made an offer to company owners all over the world can open their companies in the US and pay very low taxes otherwise they will pay a tariff for exports into USA. If I'm a company owner what is more viable. I have studied communism and it doesn't end well

[@jeppiengonyamah354]

How do u protect property rights on a stolen land? Those who knowingly bought stolen land from a thief should not complain if the land is taken away from them and given back to the rightful owner.

[@xhalanga]

Sure you obviously studied Communism from westerners right? Those who wrote against it? 😁 Well the Chinese have done well in the last decades and are now rivalling the world's biggest economy, the US. They used to be cheap labor for western companies but are now more costly to employ. Capitalism isn't always the best solution for everyone.

[@yonicocampbell590]

@xhalanga China is dying because of their one child polices. They had a negative population growth rate for 2years, they are second behind South Korea. Their economy is slowing down. If you go to China it's not pure communism but a hybrid system with capitalism infused. The CCP acts like a shareholder in the bigger businesses. Evens they know communism can't grow an economy. They use communistic principles only to control people with their social credit scoring. I suggest you do some financial research on how China actually operates

[@yonicocampbell590]

@@jeppiengonyamah354 There obviously has to be a restitution process, but it has been corrupted by the ANC government. Would you trust the ANC government to manage your retirement, your house and all your assets completely

[@shirleypetzer9843]

​@@xhalangaeverything you buy are made in sweatshops in China where young children work to produce the fongkong goods you like to wear. You admire the Chinese style of communism, would you like to be told to have only 2 children? Their culture and yours are galaxies apart. Communism is a failed concept, that's why we never see what's going on in North Korea or behind the scenes in China. ❤❤

[@EugeneBrink-l3i]

ONS SAL NIE TOELAAT DAT VOLKSVREMDES INSTAP EN PLUNDER...ORANIA IS OUR TOWN, NO ONE WILL PUSH US OUT- WE WILL STAND TOGETHER , WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY OUTSIDERS TO DISRUPT OUR LIFESTYLE...

[@bobbycarroll2267]

I DARE THEM TO COME KNOCK ON MY DOOR.!!!

[@shipslnka]

That's the problem. It won't be one great fell swoop. The government will slowly chip away and play the long game. Twenty years from now we'll blink and be shocked.

[@TheRIBLING]

I've always wondered what happens to a country after the government taxes the middle class into poverty.

[@thewildkids406]

Then there's a democratic adjustment leaning towards socialist communism

[@hicks288]

I smell war

[@mariusoosthuizen2235]

Maybe it's time

[@JaphtaKhoza-hq9um]

Laat dit kom!! Ons het te veel swart mense wat 'n kans geweier is om hul woede met julle mense uit te blaas.. Probeer dit en kom ons sien julle sal staande bly..

[@zuleigahanslip7689]

South Africa does not need war. You will regret it I have experienced it. You must never wish such a thing

[@Malfunctionware]

Who are you going to fight? All progressive party voted for this law, it's the new world order ideals " you will own nothing and be happy" DA and the ANC have sold their souls to the globalists.

[@MthobisiMNTUNGWA-f5l]

Us as black either we win or we die.

[@veronicademeillon7335]

Prayer changes things

[@SueLeo1]

No it doesnt 😂

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@SueLeo1 yes it does🤣

[@Klaas-y3p]

WE WANT OUR LAND BACK NOT PRAYERS

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@Klaas-y3p you cant have something back you didn't own.

[@patrickcannell2258]

Yes, but this nation my repent and seek God. This is devine judgement!!

[@Aesyrbane]

Stay safe Orania, they are coming for you

[@Cynthia-s4h]

This is what stalin did. It's affecting anyone with assets not just white farmers...it affects indigenous tribal lands...all need to unite...this might actually unite white and blacks in a mutual fight to survive 😢 i pray for a miracle for my birthland❤

[@haroldpollok4923]

The world is coming to an end and JESUS is coming back very soon..worry about Eternity...?

[@lawrencehenshaw7491]

This land appropriation bill isn't going to work there many cultures in South Africa and they are going to also feel that this bill puts all owners of land at risk. Many businesses are going to leave South Africa if this law isn't ratified

[@Zet-l3n]

That's your own perspective.of which I entitled to.

[@patrictshwenyane5819]

Gaslighting us, give up it will not work, The bill will work, it is law.

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

"We shall overcome someday" it's coming soon🇿🇦🇷🇺❤️

[@xhalanga]

So the current status quo works? I understand it benefits you, that's why you're saying that.

[@mano46926]

The expropriation bill is NOT about land its PROPERTY a HUGE difference

[@gerhardduplessis7276]

Al hoe jy dit kan stop is as die boere ophou plant tot die bil weg val sodat hulle kan sien wa hulle kos vandaan kom

[@marloeveltman423]

This can take a very long time and by then there won't be anything left of our country

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

I have a farm and is doing well, maybe will have opportunities to trade in Africa soon BRICS will be running economy. I'm happy to see the country moving forward to get the freedom we deserve

[@xhalanga]

That's a great idea. So that when replaced you can see farming isn't rocket science.

[@George-4k]

The food comes from(grows) the Pick'nPay and Spar shelves😀😀😀.That's why South Africa doesn't need successful farming and the farms can be destroyed 😀😀😀.Love from Bulgaria .Don't give up 💪💪Good Luck.

[@johannabezuidenhout4252]

Dan sal hulle op hulle knee wees!!!!!!

[@christadutoit4235]

I really wish that you'll can open your eyes and start taking care of the actual people in the country. All citizens born in south Africa needs to stand united and start putting all this crap to an end. The government are stealing from everyone and everyone is suffering because of the government.. How many people has gone homeless. How many children are suffering from the government stupidity... Just my opinion

[@emmerentialemmer1051]

This is why I am getting a one way ticket to Israel.! Returning back to our original biblical roots of descent, physicaly and spirituality !

[@TeebangLloyd-j3w]

Please hurry up we don't need Genocide lovers here

[@rachael-777]

Same! Rather be there than here.

[@lily-v8x9h]

@@rachael-777 Its stupid to think that going to Israel will be the answer to your problems. Your problems are within you. The answer to those problems lies in you conducting an honest introspection and seeing and believing in what is right. And your choice of Israel is not surprising at all. It is another place where racial bigotry reigns supreme. A place where you can feel like you are in the old South Africa. The day is fast approaching when then same thing happening in South Africa will be happening in Israel. Will you keep running? And is that the mentality you want to pass on to you descendants?

[@JohnTsheole]

I am only worried about ANC corruption!

[@sabelodlamini5590]

You are trying to sound kwiplatform yamabhulu

[@lucelleangel]

We have to do something!

[@RoadTripsGuide]

Like stop feeding the beast and stop paying taxes on a massive scale

[@MelanatedGirl]

Like what you did with the Natives Land Act?

[@Klaas-y3p]

LIKE WHAT EXATLY

[@masandechisomophiri9198]

What is that something, We stand to see what's going to happen.

[@Klaas-y3p]

@@masandechisomophiri9198 just shut up

[@Luckyfish-se9om]

WORD OF GOD MATTERS MOST ‼️🙏❤️

[@sparklebottom6121]

Yeah taking land and making tax payers leave the country worked great for Zimbabwe .

[@tsholomoloto7788]

Have no fear, people. It will never happen. Ramaphosais threatened by sacp to act like this. Dont worry, we are all in the same boat as south Africans just fight.

[@indylwth2327]

Thank you. I hate these politicians. HATE THEM. The real South Africans are out there every day working together and just trying to survive. What they are doing will ruin this country for every single citizen and their children regardless of race. Despicable people!

[@siphamandlamthwesi8399]

Black people need a powerful organisation to defend their rights like the afrikaner's have Afriforum.

[@anjieismyname]

Afriforum represents all South Africans. They will help anyone.

[@janpotgieter1505]

Steeling

[@marloeveltman423]

You mean Stealing...

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

By 1652 folks😂

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@phumlamazibuko3003 what about it? 1852 - 1st black settlers (tribe) discovered by expanding white settlers at the fish river. . . you weren't ever there at 1652 🤣 go give it to the Khoi and San people then we can talk.

[@marcusee7186]

U mean the colonized land

[@h35biznez]

Lets hope this bill will unite ALL South Africans against the ANC. At all measurable costs, enough of divide and conquer

[@Secede4OurNewFuture]

It is beyond disgusting what has occurred with Farm Murders for decades but this has just crossed a line. Orania has always been a promising beacon and inspired what Free Germanic world needs to do, to go off grid and create our own communities. It can also be an inspiration for all peoples, races and cultures worldwide so this is an attack on ALL

[@rikbos2249]

They'll confiscate land in Transkei for mining... ANC has been fighting it's own people for years. I'm guessing property containing resources are mainly targeted for mining. National parks are also vulnerable under these laws if I'm correct

[@mossfairy3060]

omg please not our national parks. 😢

[@Ash_Hole-f7p]

​@@mossfairy3060 are they going to erect shacks in the national parks? 😅

[@xhalanga]

@@mossfairy3060 yes national and private game reserves,

[@Moto-xr9tu]

Things change all the time at a rapid pace...God bless Orania

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

It's located in SA

[@samanthaholm9634]

Protect Orania. It belongs to you and your community. I am English and dont speak Afrikaans but i believe in the right to own your land in Orania and your language and people.

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

It belongs to SA

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

It's located in SA so belong to us

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

It's in SA so it for SA

[@xhalanga]

@@phumlamazibuko3003 and if in Africa it belongs to Africans

[@3nity3in1]

It belong to AFRICAN (black)

[@plaatjiemashego2256]

The future of South Africa lies with the Unemployed People's Party

[@businesspreacher101]

As a black person - We are all victims of political transitions in history. As for all Afrikaaners let not history hold you back, continue to build the vision for Orania and continue to add peace and lessons to our country - Seek internal remedies and self determination with the SA government, South Africa has stiff resistance against international influence on our domestic affairs, because of colonial history - don't not go that way or even mention physical protection for yourselves. Oranians are seeking EXACTLY what blacks and other former marginalized groups were seeking in our earlier history its not different. Instead continue to DEMOSTRATE Afrikaaners vision, Culture, Education, Progressive prospects and more. The Country is observing from a distance and are impressed but what you are doing and there is not denial on what we see and the government will have no sense to stop creating good will. BUT Engaging international ally's is dumb and will create more problems for than you hope any pressure for the west will do. Realize THIS South Africa does not answer to international pressure especial from the west, Former President Zuma proved that when he refused Obamas instruction to arrest AL Bashir. Good luck Orania. . .

[@Hube.n]

Negrropean..you are not welcome in Oranje 😅😅😅😂😂

[@81005]

Hulle kom vir julle. Alles werk daar. Wakker wees manne

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

The same verse from 1948 to date, I'm not singing that part

[@brianmolele7264]

@@phumlamazibuko3003 Action will be applied.

[@IvanAdams-m3p]

War is coming

[@patrictshwenyane5819]

We are ready

[@mariusoosthuizen2235]

Maybe it's time

[@ZeroDonald-m3s]

Let it be 😂😂😂😂

[@LNash]

I don't think it will come to that but if it does then so be it ...I think both sides have had enough of each other ....

[@brianmolele7264]

Let it Come...!!

[@Kleva_Pmlani]

Prayer and Fasting...

[@petrusesterhuyzen2087]

Repentance is first and God listens

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

The same God we are praying to and will listen n answer our prayers to have the true freedom we deserve. He answered Burkina Faso, Mali n Niger. Amen🙏🇿🇦🇷🇺❤️

[@xhalanga]

@@phumlamazibuko3003 these people think God is for them only. Why are they only considering prayers and fasting only now? Where were those prayers and fastings during all these centuries of suffering of black people? Or our situation wasn't worth their prayers? Between our and their prayers who do you think would reach the FAIR God's ears?

[@Kleva_Pmlani]

@@phumlamazibuko3003 what's your gods name?

[@Kleva_Pmlani]

@@phumlamazibuko3003 The God that came with The BOERs And watched over them for 400 years Will surely hear your cry Phumla

[@MsimeleloLimba-hv9jn]

I had that in Zimbabwe start like this that's where this people they must know that to avoid fight they should come in front share the land this topic is very serious topic if we will keep saying this country it will become like Zimbabwe let it be maybe we will leave peace full life without them

[@Dalene-m3d]

I WANT TO MOVE TO ORANIA

[@MVL12345]

Wat het die DA en FF+ gedoen? Hoekom laat hulle die anc toe om met alles weg te kom? Eere NHI, toe bela, nou dit. Moet solidariteit ALLES doen 😡😡

[@jackstander4519]

Die DA en die FF+ is deel van die trippel X net soos die ANC. Die wat ENIGE IETS goeds verwag het van die partye is lae IK mense. As jy vir een sekonde dink hulle gaan enge iets doen om te help dan kort JY hulp vinnig

[@twentyfifty2050]

We are doomed on this GNU

[@MorgMorg-uf6ps]

Both funded by the sane masters😢

[@AnhAxg0dx]

gaan help hulle tanie , wys hulle tanie se kwai emojies

[@jackstander4519]

@@AnhAxg0dx Kan jy spel? Ek dink jou IK is ook 40

[@HannaKoen-j6t]

AmoMoëti thank you may our Lord bless you abundantly.

[@marloeveltman423]

Thank you Hanna I respect him Amo Moetie a lot for his caring comment to the SA Citizens

[@normanmcdermid4257]

STOLEN FOR THEIR FAMILY😮

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

1652

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@phumlamazibuko3003 Where was your forefathers in 1652? still fighting their way down from central africa, should we apply your logic to you? go then, go back same as we should.

[@sifisohlabane6657]

It's nice to speak from a place of convenience, forgetting that this land belongs to no one and should benefit all in South africa its not white or black land, its south african land and the common denominator is the government.

[@chantelles3641]

The government is corrupt. They only take for themselves regardless of colour!

[@SammyEtienneJacobs-ky5ok]

Jesus Christ our King May Your Name be Glorified in South Africa once again in Jesus Name Amen Amen Amen

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

Amen, finally God hear our prayers from 1652

[@colinm2056]

Dankie F.W

[@marloeveltman423]

Net so. FW verraaier

[@gregwochlik9233]

Wishing Orania all the best in this new battle. I heeded Juju's comments 5 years ago, sold my house in Edenvale, Johannesburg and moved to Poland (on a Polish passport) after 30 years of life in South Afrika. I am saddened to see that the bill is law; however, I did not expect the ANC to do this, I expected the EFF to be in power. Sterkte Manne, Sterkte from Wroclaw Poland.

[@mzidaslampoet9883]

You made a great decision You must all go to Poland

[@keabetswe_80]

@@mzidaslampoet9883 Amandla Africa is no more for sale.

[@gregwochlik9233]

@@mzidaslampoet9883 Thank you. The other choices were Australia and NZ, but I couldn't afford the Skills Visa. Poland is relatively safe, and relatively free from illegal migrants (compared to Germany, Italy or France) but in the EU-zone and Schengen. Poland retained its own currency (Here we do NOT use the Euro, but the Zloty). I speak the language (which was maintained in SA), At work, I get to maintain my English writing skills (not an official language). Generally happy here (except that the government could be more to the right).

[@pastorcalistusndlovu3061]

@@gregwochlik9233 Je hebt iets goeds gedaan. Dit is het begin van verandering. Wacht maar tot Panyaza Lesufi president wordt.

[@AmoKge-z6i]

@@gregwochlik9233 you made a good decision others will follow you soon

[@nomthandazomacayi9585]

Orania tell South Africans how did you get that land you call it white only with a boarder get.

[@RuthKent-v5s]

Mandela gave it to the whites

[@LaughingMan44]

Praying for you

[@Mapoposo512]

​You mean calling on the blonde hair blue eyed guy that keeps on telling Africans that the boer run boekinstelling slavery of the 18th centuary, the original land expropriation of 1652, the natives land expropriation act of 1913 and the grand apartheid act of 1948 was good for them? That god neh? 😅😅😅

[@LaughingMan44]

@Mapoposo512 can you type that again? It's not making sense

[@dieontwerper8083]

@@Mapoposo512 Are you one of those racist cadres, who only knows how to copy and paste the same lame message? A pathetic backward loser, who is stuck in the past and who hates white people!? Come on , spit it out now, let's hear it!?

[@bethdfl8823]

What are you on about. Have you been smoking something. Gosh go back to school again, clearly the first time was a waste of time 😂

[@mzidaslampoet9883]

​@@bethdfl8823which god are you praying tool? I don't think you believe to god which you claim his human righteousness it can't be

[@dawievanheerden4416]

Just learn from Zim,total insanity !

[@ahmedserekonyane3339]

Zim was brought to it's knees by corruption and sanctions

[@VictorShongwe-eh3sc]

Why now? To divert attention away from phalaphala

[@leadassay]

Phalaphala is a very small thing, the land was taken at whip and gun point. This should have been done a long time ago.

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@leadassay no, no it wasnt, please provide the times, names, places and events, the events where all of what the brittish later called south africa was some how taken from the black settlers after both the white settlers and black settlers arrived here and took from the Khoi and San people who are hilariously not even being represented in this discussion.

[@leadassay]

@ArnovanWyk-q2j that'll be a bit of stretch mate, but I can refer you to what was a nonsense rule that prohibited Africans in general from staying at certain places, from owning properties at certain places. Need I go on? I can refer you to historical facts where the very Africans where forcefully removed from their dwellings cos it was too whitey.

[@KhanyisaSompini]

Now we need a young black energetic President who is not scared

[@KimStein-tc9kz]

We need a righteous intelligent person with brains and wisdom. I don't care what colour or age. That's irrelevant.

[@Chieff30gamess]

Yes we should take our land back

[@JoshtheRCguy]

@@Chieff30gamesswhat land

[@shaunswanby8323]

Are the ANC not drifting from Communism to Fascism? In other words people are free to create and own businesses but the government dictates to business.

[@Speed-shooter]

My question is: if you have a referendum only in your area (same as Western Cape, JHB can’t vote) to be excluded from SA. Obviously your referendum will be 100% for your win but politically speaking if you hold that referendum the world would have to judge ANC very harshly. Just an idea. Good luck guys. Keep up the good work.

[@phumlamazibuko3003]

1652

[@Speed-shooter]

@ 1652?

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@phumlamazibuko3003 what about it? 1852 - 1st black settlers (tribe) discovered by expanding white settlers at the fish river. . . you weren't ever there at 1652 🤣 go give it to the Khoi and San people then we can talk.

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@Speed-shooter what about it? 1852 - 1st black settlers (tribe) discovered by expanding white settlers at the fish river. . . you weren't ever there at 1652 🤣 go give it to the Khoi and San people then we can talk.

[@Speed-shooter]

@@ArnovanWyk-q2j listen, I have no problem with San or Khoi people being the first here. You talking about a group that were not settled in one spot. (So silly argument). cANCer doesn’t even recognise them as a group. (Absolutely disgusting). Fact is many African countries have succeeded to become independent. So your argument is very flawed. Areas all over the world was by concurring. So don’t hate the player for playing by the rules of the game. Is it right or wrong? Very different argument. As I said, argument is flawed.

[@AvelaNketshisa]

The question to ask is Who's the land is going to be given to? As a majority of south Africans don't have the capital to develop that land and make profit and i am one of those.the people who will benefit from this, is the same government who made the policy.

[@mzidaslampoet9883]

South Africa got the capacity to fund it's own people

[@keabetswe_80]

@@AvelaNketshisa the way our forefathers did even better because we have the latest skills and knowledge. Botho jwarona retla ruta ba ba saitseng

[@patrictshwenyane5819]

Yo are very ill informed, wealth starts with land ownership.

[@wellingtonmagarasadza9540]

Reliable and capable farmers of south africa

[@AvelaNketshisa]

@patrictshwenyane5819 give you that land and do what with it when your lives are in the cities?as for you as a subsistence farmer how much have you made with your garden or you live stock?, if you even have such things! You are good at politics but not in reality.

[@dontwaddle6782]

Hope the nay sayers will now consider western cape independence

[@Mgazi-c5s]

That will never happen. Your independence is not here in Africa

[@dontwaddle6782]

Wonder why those with low IQ are so worried it will happen

[@siviwencayo9934]

You are dreaming,there'll be no cape independence here.

[@dontwaddle6782]

@siviwencayo9934 no fear fool time will tell

[@SenzoMavimbela]

That will never happen western cape is south Africa a black land of africa

[@annawitter5161]

Orania should be an independent republic

[@SenzoMavimbela]

Why? Instead go back to your forefathers land