Orbital Gatling Barrage and Heavy Machine Gun are Great Helldivers 2 Solo Helldive Meta Testing

The orbital Gatling barrage and heavy machine gun are undeniably goated in the new update against Automatons. I think the gatling barrage will be good against terminids. I'll test the HMG against bugs, but last time I did it wasn't great. #helldivers2
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[@NATEDAWG243]

Both Machine Guns feel good now, W buff if Devs keep these kind of changes up at a reasonable pace this game gonna get even more crazier

[@Lucifer-fj7mg]

I’m a heavy user of sentry…and I’m telling you…the buffs to sentries are nice too. The rocket sentry is surprisingly better than before. It kills charger and titan faster, and it has bigger explosion radius too. That incendiary minefield? It can also kill charger if it tends to passing through the field. However tho, turret is still weak to enemy attacks…

[@Themightyfrogg]

I REALLY hope the next warbond is like gladiator themed or something. The fact the shield despite the initial reason for its existence in history, does nothing against melee is kind of crazy, they don't need to even buff the ballistic shield to include melee, literally just make another shield that only works or melee so we can bring ballistic for bots, and the melee one for bug. Sub and Shield gameplay got gutted this patch with the pummeler nerf, the front line playstyle needs love.

[@danielmyers-cowan3416]

I don't know why but the MG 43 changes aren't working for me, same with concussive liberator. The HMG changes work fine in my games but these other two weapons are unaffected by their patch notes. It really bugs me.

[@thunderfart31]

something interesting I discovered: the gatling barrage and strafing run can destroy rogue research labs and spore spewers now (with just one throw!!!!) edit: I haven’t been able to recreate destroying the rogue research lab, so maybe it was a fluke or something else happened I’m not sure. spore spewers work consistently though

[@ninjacow]

No way, that's HUGE

[@ewy4010]

No way dude, is that consistent? Can it also destroy bot detector tower?

[@AlucardsBlood69]

@@Danthepanman1 Precision strike destroys it, Ive done it 6 times since the update yesterday.

[@quikoneson]

Huge!

[@Magnusfication]

Ive also noticed the gatling barrage destroying fabricators and bug holes. But its not consistant. Maybe one of the explosions needs to hit it at just the right angle. But it happend quite often. I rlly like the gatling for bug breaches now. Even more so than the gas strike, which used to be my go to for bugs.

[@KsnypsAdventures]

Gatling and strafing runs are absolute god tier for bots now. Pretty much on par with the airstrike when it comes to killing enemies at least, since they can’t destroy all structures. I really like their approach to balance now, it makes more things viable without making the previous meta absolute shit

[@Quincy_Morris]

Strafing run could destroy factories if they attack at the vent angle. Not sure now though

[@Enderdragon91]

First run against bots I had the Strafing Run I used it on a Tank just to see what it would do. Hit the thing longways and *killed* it. Strafing run is goated now for large or long targets, I want to see what it does to a Bile Titan

[@SourDonut99]

​@@Enderdragon91Titan backs are Pen 6 and the head is Pen 5. So it might do some damage to the head but it's too small to get killed. Tank vents are pretty weak so you can get them that way but it's definitely not getting shredded due to armor alone.

[@nightfalls5462]

still not taking it, airstrike is meta

[@doraemon5990]

@@nightfalls5462 How do you not get bored playing meta most of the time?

[@davidweaver4436]

With more damage, the HMG doesn't need as much ammo since you need less bullets to get work done. The main issue is still the recoil making you potentially miss a lot, but it definitely feels viable now. I always WANTED to like the HMG, so maybe I actually can now.

[@williamking331]

I guess those prone and crouch are a must for the gun, which makes sense

[@user-if4zv5nj5m]

Low rpm, armor with the recoil passive, crouch and hmg becomes almost lasergun accurate

[@williamking331]

@@user-if4zv5nj5m yeah, it's a scary thing indeed

[@Rashed1255]

Imagine the AMR but belt fed cuz that’s what an HMG is, I expect high damage and penetration with slow fire rate and low capacity but most people are expecting just a regular MG.

[@loganberkheimer1857]

Used it with the tenderizer and supply pack earlier and it was a blast

[@Sixth_SSense]

80,000 online currently on steam (plus how many on ps5) I hope the devs take the hint that they are doing well.

[@Danthepanman1]

128k online and about 40k of those are ps5

[@63Limar]

Still no fix from stupid sony on banned countries tho. This would probably boost some numbers not only from those countries but those that feel alienated as a result of these corporate decisions and wait for 180degree on all cringe changes.

[@mike89418]

I feel like the game could use temporary ragdoll immunity after getting ragdolled. Like a standard CC immunity that many games have to prevent the player from being serially stunned and unable to control their character. Something to the effect of 3-5 seconds of ragdoll immunity after your character ragdolls

[@Necro_fury]

Ooo yeah, or at least a diminishing returns setup, where the pushing force is lessened every instance. Like -30% less strength everytime within 2 seconds or something

[@ascendedblank]

Nah sounds unnecessary

[@maiy8786]

Heavy and medium armor should also reduce ragdolls (I dont think they do, or do they?)

[@Riaining7]

And/or simply put a cap on the ragdoll possible duration. Right now it's way too long, and may not actually have a cap. I'm truly sick of losing control of my character. Realistically, I want a built-in "Combat-Roll" ability, to allow us to swiftly tuck-and-roll after a dive, as a means to avoid ragdoll animation stuns and keep moving forward at a rapid pace.

[@killerklinge52]

​@@Riaining7 that would make the game to easy and arcade. Get hit by a 5tons charger like a truck and then just roll? No thanks

[@bradygoodrich5318]

I know they said they reduced heavy spawns, but the game honestly feels harder now, natural gunship patrols, giant armies, 24/7 bot drops, and factory striders feel more abundant too. Ive really been enjoying strafing run though, great at wiping out groups of devs and scout striders with really short call in.

[@burn1none]

I'm watching the gameplay and spawns look worse now lol

[@Swampdonkey796]

Yeah after reading that they reverted spawns but then reduced heavies and increased everything else it at least on paper sounded like nothing was gonna change

[@gangsterguardsman4576]

Hopefully they don’t add natural stalker spawns lol

[@hyml_300]

@@burn1nonewell he is on solo helldive and was mostly getting wrecked by the factory strider, solo helldives are pretty much rng reliant

[@burn1none]

@@hyml_300 funny I used to solo before the patrol change and it was never this egregious but ok

[@TheHuffur]

16:50 Orbital Gatling and Eagle Strafe has always(or at least before this patch) been able to take out bug nests and fabricators but they could be a bit iffy with needing one or more shots to go down the hole/vent but standing in front of a fabricator(door) and throwing it either near the door or either vents usually did the trick with the Eagle Strafe as that matches up the angle of the run with the vent openings making it much more likely some shots go in. Same with bug nests, stand in front of them and toss the Eagle Strafe so the angle of shots kinda follows the angle of the bug nest and *PoP* they go. Orbital Gatling obviously less picky since the shots seem to rain down more or less straight down, the DOUBLE amounts of projectiles should make it much more consistent than before which is great!

[@Misfiring89]

They doubled the shots and increased the saturation area so it covers a larger area.

[@Aurilion44]

TBF, if it now pierces heavy as well and seems to obliterate Spore Spewers and Rogue Research Stations as well. Perhaps you no longer need to aim it like that

[@rottenmeat5934]

The thing about gatling barrage is that it always effectively stopped the enemies it could stagger. So it was the most effective barrier in the game, but all the big stuff just ignored it.

[@MetalFrogman23]

17:23 The bots were going mountain climbing lol

[@dodolife1968]

Found this comment as soon as I hit 17:23

[@Quincy_Morris]

When the bots hire Hannibal Barca

[@Rashed1255]

I once saw a charger run up a vertical termicide tower, it was funny.

[@coreyvaughn-patterson2668]

WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK!!!

[@ezyfnef]

Lol relax

[@DatGuyWithDaGlasses]

1000% 😎💯

[@OgSuda]

@@ezyfnef no.

[@Themightyfrogg]

These youtubers are really brain rotting the community, they needed this to be good so bad so they don't go into irrelevance, and they got yall believing it, sad. The patch and warbond are bugged to hell

[@dapperdanman1832]

HMG was already my fav lol this is lit

[@darzinth]

woot woot!

[@violenceandpoetry]

Did they fix the 1st person scope? I was having to aim 12-18 inches high

[@thornyduck]

​@@violenceandpoetryunfortunately not I just checked in game but I saw someone say that it's meant to be like that due to something called height over bore or something like that I'm not knowledgeable on firearms sadly so I can't comment on if it's meant to actually be like that or not

[@gangsterguardsman4576]

It was already great when you used it carefully, now it’s awesome can’t wait to try it

[@jarebare510]

@@thornyduckheight over bore is just the idea that you can look through the scope, but have your barrel be blocked by a wall in front of you, it only should effect at close range, and the effect is only a few inches (because your scopes is only a few inches higher than your barrel (bore)). So the current scope in helldivers is sadly just wrong.

[@ExoticBobcat]

Apparently according to Reddit, SPM or Superior Methodology Packing is broken again. Thought I’d try to let people know.

[@majinkevinci]

Strafing run seems a bit more useful in bugs imo. Why? because bugs are much wider from above, bots are rather tiny and with the new improved AP it should kill everything that is not a bile titan or a charger, and tbh I think it actually could kill them reasonably?

[@WidoLobox]

You can also make a long line of bugs more easily than a long line of bots by running away for a while, prime target for the strafing run

[@KillFrenzy96]

I did try strafing run on bugs. It's still not that great. It's not wide enough to clean out lines of bugs, because bugs often stand beside each other. It's not useful on chargers either.

[@BigMommaGart]

God i wish the “weapon handling” buff on the new armor was a recoil buff, like 50% or something. HMG would go crazy. I was still using it before the buff thi

[@lolersauresrex8837]

Yeah I think they should add a passive that has ergonomics and recoil reduction, like call it firearms specialist or something

[@echo5827]

Yeah armor should have way more impact on what weapons you use, maybe if they add helmet passives Laser weapon reload speed or ballistic recoil reduction or decrease charge up time etc. would make armor much more interesting to have to specialize

[@keonwells934]

Weapons ergonomics should reduce the reload speed even more.

[@rivwell_21]

​@lolersauresrex8837 this already exists no????

[@lolersauresrex8837]

@@rivwell_21 recoil exists on fortified and engineering kit but I’m saying they should take the new ergonomics perk and combine it with the recoil reduction to make a small arms expert style perk

[@nickoleary1760]

The first 8ish minutes had me laughing a lot. Man you were tossed around 😂

[@chazdoomy1512]

I used strafing run against bugs, highly effective to get a quick damage burst when ur pinned.

[@kedolan4992]

I feel like the point of the strafing run is that you can use it in situations where most other stratagems would either kill you, or someone else on your team. It fires directly where you aim it (it doesn't come in from the side like the air strike for instance, it shoots a straight line in the direction you throw it), and doesn't have any splash, so you can take out a priority target or pack of enemies with almost no friendly fire risk unless someone is directly behind the targets. That said, that's not a niche you'd likely need often, but I'm glad that it's a niche that exists because more options are better than less.

[@mattyice2099]

I'm guessing the Heavy Machine gun reticle is still boned and shoots way below?

[@Swampdonkey796]

Known issues said most guns are like that 🤣

[@user-if4zv5nj5m]

Yeah, but 3rd person reticle is accurate

[@mastaginge8860]

Yeah, but the smaller red dot makes it significantly easier to use the tracers to laser weak points in first person view

[@fxracer1860]

@@Swampdonkey796this gun in particular is far worse sadly

[@Einsig]

I think HMG is going to feel especially amazing once we get the Viper Commando armors. 30% faster weapon ergonomics will probably transform sluggish weapons into amazing experiences.

[@Aurilion44]

Well, surprise. It did. Things like Dominator, AC, and MGs feel so fun to use with it. I mean, even normal rifles are just so cripsy now. Plus, those armors just have this really nice drip to them

[@krustykrusader1702]

I'm a really big fan of this patch besides one pretty major thing. Behemoth chargers make anti tank launchers feel very underwhelming. On helldve they show up about as pften as regular chargers do. Only an anti tank launcher issue since flamethrower still dunpsters them. Guess I'll just one trick that then

[@lordgrey5223]

I wasnt aware there was a difference until the patch. Do anti tanks not one shot them?

[@scurtus1885]

​@lordgrey5223 their wasn't a difference before the patch. They made them tangier (haven't tried the update yet)

[@krustykrusader1702]

@@lordgrey5223 Anti tanks don't one shot behemoth chargers anymore. Can't strip leg armour in one shot either. Also RR reload speed was slowed

[@lordgrey5223]

@@krustykrusader1702 was rr reload slowed or the bugged animation cancel fixed?

[@jimboanimations4041]

Tbf, it seems they've made heavily armored targets spawn in a bit less often now. This just means that chargers are more elite threats rather than guys that can come in packs.

[@CloudyB_MT]

I never touched the HMG prepatch. Pitied it actually. Now I use it every dive against automaton with the Diligence Counter Sniper 😂😂😂 its fucking amazing.

[@alpe9]

Its amazing that you survived so many sticky situations!

[@ricebar6773]

I like the orbita gatling l barrage before now it is just sooo good

[@TheHuffur]

One of if not the main benefit of Eagle Strafing is that you can pretty much throw it at your feet and take 2 steps back and be fine, it can basically be used as the extreme danger close option where otherwise you would have to either throw the stratagem further away from you or abandon position. But yeah I do not like it that much against bots, its imo MUCH much better against bugs and should be even better now with the additional armor pen.

[@Rocket_Devastator]

Funny, I think it’s great against bots xD

[@hrespin7682]

Could you make a video for bugs after the update? I tried this exact loadout for bots. Bots in general just seem more versatile with loadouts especially after the update, but Idk about bugs. Still seems like its Incendiary breaker and AT for that front for now

[@Texmatt21]

You're the only streamer who is testing multiple changes in a single match. Thank you baby jesus. Can you check out the turret changes? Nobody else seems to be touching them.

[@lolersauresrex8837]

Yo that heavy devestator was not lasering you from across that map wow

[@tomhuitema2068]

Dude, you are so good at this wtf

[@silveredbullet802]

Now everybody has options, pretty nice if you ask me. Saw some randos use the orbital gatling on a strider, it gets shredded but not killed so gotta do some other stratagem, support weapon or heavy destroying turret to finish it off. The orb gatling does saturate an area when being chased by bugs so thats good too if you are training or being chased

[@matticus11]

I'm interested in running orbital gatling, orbital gas, mg sentry, and recoilless a ton for a low cooldown build

[@GM_Loona]

The Orbital Gatling Barrage now has a permanent slot in my loadout for most missions. Shit is goated

[@Aegxs]

Prior to this buff I’ve seen the strafing run kill chargers in one go, now I’ll need to see what it’s capable of in this state

[@NstHarlequin]

HMG just mows down devastators now, it feel extremely hard hitting with added stagger. Orbital gatling has insane fast CD

[@sorenmarx1245]

Wish the first couple shots of the HMG were perfectly accurate if crouched/proned, hulks die super quick but hitting the eye is fuckin hard

[@sorenmarx1245]

Otherwise feels amazing now gg devs

[@CapitalTeeth]

I have a feeling that they kept Alexus tied up in a corner while working on this patch. He's probably foaming at the mouth that the Eruptor doesn't suck anymore lol

[@big_gucci_scorpio328]

Can confirm the HMG paired with the new armor passive is really nice, I personally run one of the smg's with the ballistic shield and the HMG and the new heavy armor with the new passive and that combo on bots hasn't failed me once yet today

[@tank_dempsey]

I don’t know if the stars just aligned or something but I one shot a bike titan with a strafe run earlier and I’ve never been happier. Now we just need a BRRRRRRRT sound for it

[@gabruhel1505]

You gotta try plasma shotgun with heavy machine gun (weapon handling/Knockback required) Its the best loadout for automaton! Also strafing run can kill vile titan now

[@stxchereviews]

Hey I was curious, how are your frames in game on a normal basis?

[@godsamongmen8003]

I already liked the gatling barrage and now I like it even more. I use it on bug breaches, but I take airburst against bots because they get their entire reinforcement at once.

[@Bacon676]

The eruptor is still bottom barrel trash, the air-purifier still has no purpose or utility (it cant kill anything), the railgun is still in a state of "leave it on the ground", and the slugger retains top spot at the bottom of the trash heap. Theres still many, MANY questionable changes that need to be reversed. I think that a certain balance team lead needs to pull their head off of their ego throne and stop trying to ruin yet another game.

[@thunderfart31]

I agree with you except for the railgun, people are sleeping on that thing so bad it's not even funny it is amazing at taking down all medium targets blazing fast and it trivializes hulks

[@jimboanimations4041]

It still isn't perfect, but they've made a good start. There was no nerfs in this patch, and I am sure future updates will only bring more fixes.

[@user-wu7lc9gb6g]

Im sorry, what? Purifier is not bad, it’s super ammo efficient and does pretty high damage with good AOE. Eruptor I do agree is trash. Railgun is the best hulk killer in the game, and it’s just all around great for bots. It’s biggest weakness is gunships, but this is a coop game so your teammates can bring stuff to kill gunships. Slugger is actually very good, it has great ammo efficiency it just requires you to actually be able to aim

[@MMOplayeerr]

@@user-wu7lc9gb6g It is not. Are you just reading the stats? Purifiers scks. You kill so slow with It, Its basically useless on helldive and you basically get carried, if you pick It. It takes 5 seconds to kill 1 fkin strider when 4 striders 8 devastators and 2 hulks are coming at you and 2 other patrols are behind you. And thats not even a lot of enemies. Have fun clearning them with purifier.

[@user-wu7lc9gb6g]

@@MMOplayeerr My brother in Christ. Test the fucking weapon. Stats aren’t everything. I did a solo helldive operation yesterday with purifier and it worked great. It can one shot striders and it three shot devastators with shots close to the head. The AOE is also great and it staggers which lets you kill groups of enemies quite efficiently

[@ethanalspencer7294]

Felt like an absolute rambo god with the Eruptor, Heavy Machinegun and Bushwacker alongside the medium viper armor. While I do wish the eruptor had shrapnel it still one shots striders and just feels great now all around in a group setting. Absolute heavy weapons specialist build feels really good.

[@ZuilzonDTD]

I've been digging the HMG Emplacement, it's not an always available HMG but it's a nice way to incorporate a HMG into a build where you want a different support weapon while walking around. Especially with how the patrols have been going absolutely ham the HMG Emplacement and shield gen has been a nice way to just get an immediate bunker to get some space and deal with high volumes of enemies. Been seeing a lot of toxic players whenever running this unfortunately. It really just requires the team to acknowledge they have the mount and shield to play around because when people don't just scatter to the winds it works really well. I've had great success when people don't just grief my setup whenever I call it in.

[@stephenpinon8836]

It looks like strafing run does more kills when you use it as an escape. Like it's there to just relieve some pressure

[@shaqtaku]

this video sums up perfectly why I hate fighting bots

[@danielmyers-cowan3416]

If you guys havent tried it i HIGHLY reccomend running the punisher with the HMG. Its so good for keeping bugs off you, while being SURPRISINGLY great against bots. Berserkers do take 2-3 shots to kill usually but all devistator variants can be semi consistently killed with 1 shot, and chaff are a breeze. Still primarily a bug pick but i think its better than the slugger against bots still.

[@flavourbusiness3870]

I love video examples of why I don’t play bots on high levels

[@Ramses4821]

Love the HMG now. Just wish they gave us 3 magazines instead of 2 since they didnt increase the rounds per magazines. That being said the reload time is much faster and it puts in work. I want to finally try the crossbow after its buffs paired with the hmg, supply backpack, stun grenades and the new shotty pistol or throwing knives. I have a feeling this build will slap for both bugs and bots

[@nerochromatic]

I've found out that the Heavy MG can in fact damage gunships. Skynet HK's are no longer safe.

[@HippioKass]

Strafe feels alright, 5 charges is nice and heavy pen makes it feel like your doing something to everything, not gonna get those 75 bangers like with napalm, def more of a precision tool. Honestly like it more than orbital gatling though orbital looks badass. HMG is a W, though i wish the 900 rpm was still a thing, I was finally getting that recoil down and able to mag dump a 900er pretty accurately

[@nightfalls5462]

i dont want to ditch my LC and bubble shield backpack for anything, i just love it to much, and is so useful vs the bots

[@Bombsuitsandkilts]

I've been saying Orbital gatling is goated for a while and now its even better 😍

[@ninjacow]

The new armor plus HMG + Tenderizer may be a very legit Chaff/Medium killer role on bugs now.

[@Keito_1221]

Did they fix hmg reticle too?!

[@ServusVelux]

Been using gattling and strafe since launch Eating good with this update

[@Tonisaka]

I feel like they made the strafing run smaller, it use to be more cone, as the jet pulls up after diving the spread would be more wider.

[@mangasaint]

I was already an orbit Gatling user, it killed nothing but was fun to use.

[@morgan3392]

There are some gnarly new bugs that were caused by this patch, which hopefully they can get fixed quick. The one with ballistic shield is probably the biggest one. Super hyepd to try the new tenderizer and the new warbond stuff, AND THE NEW ARMOR PASSIVE WOO

[@cuma212]

the decrease time is without the ship upgrade so with the upgrade should be 70*0.10 = 63 seconds

[@sirdragon6860]

Wish I could combine the HMG and the Ballistic Shield but they broke shield in this patch :/

[@fuzzydragon]

hmg was my secret favorite anti gunship weapon even pre buff

[@Bryan-xz6fg]

01:30 it's a five shot at 50 meters I'm pretty sure, I played with it this morning post warbond release

[@cptnuclearrhino114]

Hmg feels so much more usable now, and with the muscle armour it's such a asthetic

[@vibezg954]

Anyone getting a bug where you throw the strafe run or airburst but you throw the stun instead?

[@xxshaggygrxx1792]

Welp time to give the hmg another shot. I would have liked to see a slight ammo buff but ill take damage too 😂

[@stoogemoedude]

Did the factory strider blow up the fabricator at 17:55? Really wish you had tested if strafe could kill fabricators

[@Aurilion44]

It can and always could if you aimed it well. Strafing always comes from the your direction i.e. place from where you threw the marker. That is why if you aimed well at the vents (or open door) it would destroy the fabricator. Now can it do that strictly thanks to its heavy AP now? No idea :D

[@znail4675]

Higher damage for the HMG makes the ammo count for more making it just as good as giving it more ammo.

[@ATigerShark]

I'm hoping for a quality of life update where they swap out where it says heavy medium light armor penetration on weapons modifiers and replaces them with the actual penetration value like light one or light two

[@ShortThrowShifting]

Strafing run is god tier against the bugs, and meh against the bots. The bots tend to spread out just enough that most of the run's shells strike the dirt.

[@drag0nmancer]

Peak Physique with HMG, Eruptor and Dominator (and supply pack) is a match made in heaven. The increase in weapon ergonomics makes a massive difference on the HMG and Dominator. Overall I am really happy with the patch and most of the weapon improvements.

[@ryanchong9965]

I'm rather glad they didn't touch the Tenderizer's recoil. I always liked it due to its lower visual recoil compared to the standard Liberator.

[@darkehartplays]

The coverage area and saturation of said area for strafing run is just too thin, I think. It's very nice in that you can drop it almost at your own feet and be safe from it, and it's nice that it travels in the direction you threw it instead of sideways or something. Just needs more dakka to be competitive (best IMO would be if they lower uses back down a bit and make it absolutely shred everything bigger than a scavenger but softer than the strider and titan). =^.^= Gatling barrage tends to miss troopers, I've noticed, but it does very well against medium and larger targets that wind up taking multiple hits.

[@prabhav1788]

Man this makes me want to play soo bad

[@grsycatcarcass5042]

I hate fighting the bots, I’m a bug warrior. But it’s for the children

[@monderkbaeli9411]

they should nerf the way they follow the dive , i always noticed it , that they can decide when to be accurate and shoot you ever when you are in the air

[@convextlc9767]

Guess I will be playing helldivers rn and starting the grind again after this patch 😎

[@robpom5501]

SR is and will remain bad unless they increase it's damage as the number on this is just so damn low it doesn't deal enough to kill I'm fairly sure ANY mediums. so either more damage OR 2X the uses before rearming. A change I'd like to see is a side buff where you can punch in a code with one extra input that will make the SR do a double pass with a 3 second delay plus the thing needed 2X the charges however IMO easier is to just increase the damage a lot likely by 50% or 100% (think it's 125 damage atm)

[@flavourbusiness3870]

Why have they taken away the mission timer? Or is it a bug that you can only see it if you bring up the map?

[@aiden3807]

Press map button it shows up

[@flavourbusiness3870]

@@aiden3807 yeah I’m not a fan of that change, apparently you can change it back in the settings

[@Turnil321]

How do you like the new flying patrols?

[@user-wu7lc9gb6g]

I love them, it makes bots a lot more fun. I like the feeling of being completely overwhelmed and outgunned. Maybe I’m a masochist tho

[@Danthepanman1]

Pretty manageable once you realize the quaso and the recoilless one shots them

[@crushthedemoniac]

i don't know if i play like a noob suddenly, but playing helldive against bugs seems to be harder now, since the patch,, even if the stratagems are causing more damage to them.

[@haltone3249]

The crossbow feels great now that it kills spawners

[@KillFrenzy96]

The crossbow feels way better than before. It's actually able to kill medium armoured enemies without taking forever now.

[@carlmain2043]

idk why strafing run was trolling you so hard but i managed to onetap both tanks and hulks with it now, its fucking insane lol

[@VarenvelDarakus]

they nerfed recoilless and its not even in patch notes , reloading is so slow that you finish in next sequel (feels like 50-75% longer now)

[@kevvvbot]

Oh man that’s a bummer, I was a big fan of the RR but if its now longer to reload then it’s same meh-sure-I’ll-use-it as the Queso.

[@sadfatdragon9529]

Was it a nerf to the recoilless or did they make it so you can't animation cancel

[@noxiebobo]

​@@sadfatdragon9529 no, you can still animation cancel, but it feels like it all takes about 2 seconds longer

[@sadfatdragon9529]

@@noxiebobo ok tbh this patch has been a big step in the right direction. Now I would like the devs to add new difficulty levels for people who liked the chaos. I personally won't play on those higher levels.

[@ascendedblank]

​@@sadfatdragon9529that's what I've been saying, people who still think the game is hard are definitely the people who have been asking for the game to be easier. I for one started playing one month ago and found the game great challenging and fun, definitely more fun completing a mission that seemed impossible.

[@hostilegoat]

Still going to bring the scorcher on bot missions just because of scout striders at this point...

[@Quincy_Morris]

Fair

[@nitrumlegal7470]

crossbow is a good option for those now

[@KillFrenzy96]

There's several primaries that work against them. Scorcher, Punisher Plasma, Crossbow, and Eruptor. My favourite on bots is actually the Punisher Plasma. That thing can clear chaff so quickly.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

HMG still needs more ammo, even bumping it to just 100 rounds per belt would be good

[@tyty8484]

strafing run really needs the GAU-8 upgrade

[@madffx1986]

I want a gatling gun with a backpack ammo crate like Chris redfield from RE5

[@foxwildcard130]

Which warbond do I get? I have 1k super creds and only have the arc one

[@N7_Bunny]

Steel veteran for the jar 5 dominator and the incendiary breaker.

[@Danthepanman1]

@@N7_Bunnydon’t forget the big iron

[@N7_Bunny]

@@Danthepanman1 true

[@lucasbatista9583]

cutting edge is pretty good: blitzer slaps bugs and plasma punisher slaps bots, also the stun grenade is the best

[@agent5657]

Gona say, strafing run is not bad, this game was just unfortunate and id personally recommend trying it for a longer duration, definitely pair it with airstrikes tho for a more balanced style, rockets and bullets in the Plane fighter

[@Schproemftell]

the Gatling barage is A tier now

[@levon30]

20:48 brother had a death wish

[@thiccfila]

you actually take less damage from explosives while prone, and if you are diving the game considers you prone. im also wearing explosive armor. so i did this to get back to the cover

[@Canis.Lupus.Arctos]

LETS GOOO bruh

[@madffx1986]

I just want to get back home and play but my daughters have other plans.

[@_CarNage4024]

Heavy machine guns 💪 now can't stand the hulk, heavy devastater or gun ship.

[@vastolord_a7853]

The gatling barrage is a little lackluster tbh. It has very little aoe to it, which makes hitting something as slow loving as a tank difficult. It's really only good when it's in a chokepoint where enemies have to run through it or are stuck.

[@mmmyeah7]

I took out two tanks with it in one barrage

[@vastolord_a7853]

@@mmmyeah7 how quickly? And were they stuck?

[@mmmyeah7]

@@vastolord_a7853 yeah they was stuck together can't remember how long but they both smoked and was fucked haha

[@nathanhocker9975]

U can shot tanks from the front now

[@vlanson6529]

The only major downside to this update is the complete loss of the Spear being able to sniper fabricators until the next patch.

[@Rushifell]

Could improve strafing run by giving it A10 GAU-8 sound effects.