ORBX FTX England scenery for FSX/P3D review. How much better is it than FTX Global / default?

[@bobhatcher5505]

I've just come back to flightsim after a few years away. I've got the A2A C172 and I'm just thinking of buying the whole Orbx package from Global FTX up to EUEngland so this video was really helpful. Great commentary (and no music). Thanks a lot for uploading!

[@timhalstead9790]

I was most impressed with the changes in the shore lines, the ftx England really smoothed the unrealistic straight shore lines and the hard sharp corners

[@ianhillsdon1619]

Thanks Rich, great video as usual, bought the FTX England in anticipation, actually improved my frame rates over the countryside, also got Scotland too, which is great -don't fly anywhere else at the moment, this has to be a must-have add on if you fly the small aircraft.

[@flightsim481]

I'd go so far as to say it's a must have add on for anything other than 35000 feet. In fact at medium levels, it also gets rid of the tessellated effect of scenery at medium to high levels. Thanks for the support. :-)

[@audigex]

As someone who has been to Walney lots of times, this scenery is excellent: it's very recognisable, and as you mention it's not a heavily populated part of the world (70,000 people, with an hour's drive to the next major population centre). The town isn't quite the right shape, but the landscape (hills, Lake District skyline, seascape) etc are absolutely outstanding - down to the level of the Slag Bank (an old relic of the ironworks and essentially a small hill on the eastern approach to the east-west runway). The skyline isn't just "similar, with the right feel" - it's recognisably the same thing. Late edit: specifically regarding the three runways, the photo you saw was definitely runway 35 (Black Combe, the mountain you take off towards, is pretty unique looking and obvious in the photo). The airfield was originally 3 runways but only two are currently used, the third is just a glorified taxiway now.

[@20gibbon]

Hey Rich, hope your good. Would just like to say that i really enjoy your analytical approach to these types of videos, it makes it much easier to see the work Orbx put in between the different versions. I have heard some good reports about their new open land-class Europe addon , might be worth putting on your list. Thanks for your vids.

[@flightsim481]

Thanks. I'll need to raid the piggy bank for OLC Europe ;-) I have to say, given the vast improvement, the best way to demonstrate it is to show the differences because it has to be seen to be believed. At no point did I change my graphics settings, which makes it all the more impressive.

[@gavnardi]

Appreciate the detail you put into this... helps heaps when deciding what to add

[@flightsim481]

Thanks.

[@jacklane5403]

30:07 "we've got the london eye over here".............. apparently the millenium dome has turned into a ferris wheel

[@SeamusMcNeil]

Thanks for the detailed comparisons - something I don't have the patience to do but happy to watch someone else do the leg work. lol Cheers

[@flightsim481]

Thanks for the support. Much appreciated having done the legwork to know it's watched and enjoyed. :-)

[@SeamusMcNeil]

flightsim481 Well just got BASE and VECTOR after watching your other video on BASE. I already had England. Thanks again for the huge amount of time you take to do these comparisons mate Cheers Jim

[@MrCobolman-FSPro]

Nice video, as always. Cracking 'dead stick' landing at Fenland in the last few minutes, though I wouldn't like to do that in real life - it certainly looked like incipient spin territory :)

[@flightsim481]

Lol. Thanks. In real life, you're right it would feel scarily close to incipient spin territory, because all of the senses would be screaming "this is bad"!!!! In fact I reckon I had resolutely put a tent right in the middle of incipient spin territory with no intention of moving pending an almost certain fiery finish with a fiesta of light and sound. I had about a 10 mph margin of error had it been a balanced 45 degree AoB turn ;-) Enjoyed your video about PFPX btw, I might just have to look into some proper flight planning software.

[@flightsim481]

What an awesome scenery add on!

[@Corsair8X]

+Cmax If you are from England or like England a lot, and want it more realistic looking terrain for your favourite area, then this is the obvious choice. Scene selection is subjective. Your preference is obviously for a different part of the globe. Enjoy your experience.

[@steve24822]

Fantastic landing at the end!

[@flightsim481]

Nevets Thanks :-)

[@McKlunkers]

30:06 - that's not the london eye...

[@name5317]

love the video, never seen youre channel before, keep the videos coming, deserved a subscribe, a reaaly in depth vid, well done :)

[@flightsim481]

Thanks for the support :-) Great to know people enjoy my videos.

[@JELB1960]

Nice video. You have a clear, friendly, matter-of-fact way of talking. So many people doing similar videos are hard to listen to. I would like to suggest a few things for scenery reviews: - Cockpits take up a lot of the screen. Though its engine sound is annoying the trike is great for looking around - and you could reduce the engine sound to barely audible. I know you love that Piper, and it is a fine looking cockpit, but I didn't load the video to see it. You probably do aircraft reviews too right? That's when I'd expect to see it. - Why not use FSX's video record feature, or the freeware fsrecorder, and record flights on default and then, when you replay them, enable the scenery you're critiquing? That way you fly the exact same path. Plus, if you do use the trike, most of the time it really won't matter which way you're looking. - Since a lot of your subscribers are probably new to FSX and have little to no payware addons why not disable ALL addons for the default flight and then only enable the specific addon you're reviewing? Saves explaining things like FTX Global adds that. Rex adds that. Etc etc. Maybe show a screenshot of the scenery library so people can see, without you even needing to say it, what the settings are. A screenshot of the scenery slider settings, for each flyover, would be great too. Don't get me wrong. I rarely watch long review videos all the way through without skipping ahead. The fact that I did with yours speaks to how nice it is to listen to another enthusiast calmly explain things. A lot of other reviewers talk in an obviously fake excited manner that's just annoying. Checking your system specs I can see you're not timid about spending a lot of cash on your rig. I'm surprised you don't use TrackIR for looking around naturally by just turning your head. It's not super pricey and one will last through many system builds. Alternatively FaceTrackNoIR ( facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/home/default.htm ) is a donation-ware head movement tracker that uses your webcam to pick up your movements. I had TrackIR so I never tried it but it's been around long enough its probably well refined by now. Me I now have an Oculus DK2 VR headset and, once I tried FlyInside FSX with it, well, there's no going back to looking at a screen to fly. Now I'm IN the cockpit. At times it feels so real it's a little disconcerting looking waaaay down at the ground - especially if one is over-stressing the aircraft as I did once lol. What you (currently) lose in visual clarity will be more than made up for by the feeling of what they're calling "prescence," in the Oculus marketing department - and for good reason. I would not advise buying Oculus's first commercial release, their CV1 (Commercial Version 1) as the "screen door effect" is only about 25% less and its padding for your face is not as plush as the DK2's. Sure it's a bit lighter, and the built in headphones sound great, but it's just not worth so much more cash than what you should be able to pick up a used DK2 for. NOT the DK1 though. Its resolution is crap. Oh and if you like gliders check out the UKVGA.org site. I just joined them. They do cross country flights every Tuesday and Thursday evening, UK time, and are a good lot of guys. Very relaxed and welcoming. For quite realistic thermals they disable the FSX default ones and use CumulusX!. It's free but you can pay 15 euros to be able to tell the tow plane to fly a left or right circuit. Plus it'll try to drag you right into a thermal. The default tow plane flies straight out without turning. It's dumb dumb dumb. Buying a license also smooths out CumulusX!'s custom cloud shadows. It also adds birds here and there that are themselves working a thermal - though they're flapping their wings lol. Having flown gliders in my teens, and hang gliders in my twenties, I've enough experience to be very impressed by the program. Well worth the euros. Cheers!

I'm even more impressed with their NA and NZ addons. England is good too but for me others are even better.

[@RobertCooper1999]

Have you ever played Aerofly FS? I've seen screenshots of it and it looks nice, but i'm unsure of whether it performs well. Would be nice to see you do a video of this :)

[@flightsim481]

I've never played it I'm afraid. I know it looks fantastic, but from what I've read, it's geography is limited and it is not that detailed system wise.

[@RobertCooper1999]

Ah, ok. If you decide to make a video on it, I'd definitely give it a watch :)

[@flightsim481]

***** I do mention it in the video I think. On my machine, it only affects fps by dropping 2 or 3 fps, but obviously that is dependant on the setting each person has. I was quite impressed how little impact it had on my setup.

[@jonmabec]

Does this video include FTX Global Vector as well? If not, would that improve it further on top of the FTX Endland package or does FTX England require you to have both FTX Global base and FTX Global vector installed?

[@flightsim481]

+Jonas Becsan The FTX regions such as England, Wales etc. do not need FTX Global Base or Vector because they are stand alone scenery upgrades. Global Base, vector and open landclass improve the look of the default Global FSX/P3D scenery but the FTX region sceneries sit on top of it in the hierarchy so they won't look any different whether or not you have Global Base or Vector installed. However be careful because there are some airports and small scenery areas which will only work if you have Global installed, Papua New Guinea AYPY for example. To see if you need Global installed for any particular add on, just check their web site.

[@jonmabec]

+flightsim481 Alright. Thanks for clarifying! I'm tempted to get Global Base and Vector and perhaps FTX Norway, but I just found the Orbx website to be a bit overwhelming and confusing with all the different products. :)

[@Steve-bo6ht]

Fantastic video thanks for the information on ORBX FTX very new to FSX and would really like to get this add on at a later date.

[@gideonhall9]

Cool this is great!! What add-on is the Piper? Cheers

[@flightsim481]

It's the A2A Simulations Piper Comanche 250. Thanks for watching.

[@gideonhall9]

No problem! The FTX England looks great! Do you recommend this then over any others, and can you use this add-on alongside UTX Europe, cheers.

[@flightsim481]

Sorry, I have never used UTX, so I don't really know how the 2 work together. That's significant with the fact that FTX England has it's own mesh, land class, autogen and placed objects. How that works with UTX, I don't know. The best thing would probably to have a look in the forums for FTX or the Flightsim.com or avsim.com forums.

[@KevDYAD]

Hi, I have just bought FTX England and have found your video very interesting. I don't have anywhere near as many buildings in my London cityscape as you have on this video, I seem to have the default overlaying with ftx, what do you think I'm doing wrong. Thanks for posting.

[@SirSavesALot1977]

I'm back to watch this one again. :) By the way, is the framerate better in P3D when flying over London (FTX England) or similar to FSX; have you compared them?

[@flightsim481]

+Sir SavesALot Lol, thanks. P3D is slightly better over London (about 3-5 fps), but that depends on your graphics card and more importantly the graphics settings which don't translate directly from FSX to P3D. Consequently it's hard to make a direct comparison. I'd recommend having a look at either Matt Davies' or Rob Ainscough's videos to see what P3D can really do with the right graphics card. At the lower end of the graphics card spectrum, I found the differences to be less impressive, although P3D is still slightly better. It is however considerably more expensive.

[@SirSavesALot1977]

+flightsim481 Oh ok, thanks for the info. :)

[@AxCYeR]

Could you please tell us your scenery settings? Cheers

[@roelcamua8370]

hello sir how do u change the color of the sea.? i donk like the default

[@moghobbystuff]

Really enjoying your videos (thanks). I downloaded the ORBX PNW demo and I'm impressed. I wonder if you could answer - If I want to use FTX England, do I need to have Global installed as a 'base' - or do the regions install and run okay without Global?

[@flightsim481]

No, you don't need global to be installed to use ftx England.

[@flightsim481]

No, you don't need global to be installed to use ftx England.

[@adarpolachek5580]

cool scenery what aircraft is that?

[@flightsim481]

It's the A2A simulations Piper Pa28 Cherokee :-)

[@Melon088]

Hello, I just bought FTX England and all of my trees have disappeared and the only 3D objects I have are buildings. I've tried everything I could but with no luck, any suggestions?

[@Bartalosko]

do you fly with 15 fps often ? or it was only to demonstrate max details shown

[@simonmd2000]

Very interesting and informative video. I am looking forward to reinstalling FSX when I finish rebuilding my PC this week so am interested in recent developments, what are your system specs?

[@flightsim481]

System specs are at the bottom of my description ;-)

[@simonmd2000]

flightsim481 Facepalm, so they are! Thanks

[@JasonJason210]

Hi What is OpenLC Europe? Where would that sit in the hierarchy or don't you need it? Thanks -Jason

[@flightsim481]

+JasonJason210 Hi Jason. Basically, the terrain is layered with the mesh (aka framework) at the bottom, over the top of which everything else is draped. Next up it's Vector which sits on top and defines road layouts and so on. Next up is Open Landclass, which is basically the textures draped over the mesh. Then over the top you have the autogen/add on scenery such as airports. The FTX regions eg. FTX England are stand alone products which have all the mesh, vector, landclass and autogen in one package. For it to work, you do not need any other FTX scenery product. However, as soon as you fly out of that add on region (FTX England in our example) the sim reverts to either default scenery of FTX Global if it is installed. Hope that helps, Rich

[@JasonJason210]

+flightsim481 That does help a lot actually - so thanks! Suddenly it all makes complete sense :-))

[@flightsim481]

Glad to help :-)

[@malgorzatagrzyb6677]

i think thats slightly incorrect. the terrain mesh at the bottom, this defines the ground. vectors would be for roads, raillines, streams, rivers etc. landclass positions cities, lakes etc in the right places. then you have your textures on top. its alot of things to buy but worth it.

[@JasonJason210]

OK, so landclass is like a tagged area, which defines which type of texture shall sit there?

[@jJustPlayingNZ]

I know it's 4 years later but why doesn't your autogen "pop" into view as you fly. I thought this FSX problem was something that couldn't be fixed? Sorry carried on watching and I can see it "pops" in the London part, but still far less than mine. What was your computer setup please - cpu, graphics, memory

[@IANFOLAN11]

the runway you see in the pic is no longer in use its a battered old one where they used to test the as90 self propelled guns built at bae in barrow.

[@flightsim481]

Best not use that one then !

[@thekentishtrainspotter3052]

Hi. How do you download orbx England is it instant download or do you have to extract it onto fsx steam?

[@flightsim481]

You need to use ORBX Central, their installer app theses days.

[@thekentishtrainspotter3052]

@@flightsim481 ok so I’m guessing it’s quite easy to download then.

[@CarsonT01]

What addon is for that water?

[@flightsim481]

CarsonT01 If I recall correctly, it's the water textures which automatically come with FTX England.

[@Kylem6875]

What REX theme do you have?

[@flightsim481]

+Beastz Hi, I now use P3D v3 but only with REX Softclouds so I can't recall what REX theme I used previously. Sorry.

[@Kylem6875]

Ok thanks for replying anyway, it's nice to see people that respond to their comments. :)

[@flightsim481]

No problems. I always reply where I can. :-)

[@JONESSTI01]

just to conpare notes mate, I've not got the ultimate set up for gaming as my alienware gave up the ghost unfortunately, so running i3 processor and intel iris HD graphics, can't find any system requirements for this at all. what are you running hardware wise on your pc?

[@mememachine8954]

Alien ware, ultimate set up ahahahahaha.

[@JONESSTI01]

hahahahaha (not laughing) the tower was alienware with some components left on the motherboard... had all brand new chipsets (nvidia, i7 intel ect..) ran full 4k ultra hd at good fps... it was a beast until the cooling failed.

[@mememachine8954]

Thomas "had all brand new chipsets (nvidia" What the fuck are you talking about, Nvidia the the GPU you moron, the chipset is embedded in the mother board.

[@JONESSTI01]

+The Marshmallow Man well maybe I'm not as good as you clearly are at it as it was built for me by a friend, anyway do you mind, i was asking the man a question before you decided to start taking the piss. leave it out "marshmellow man" hahaha, tosser!

[@SmokeStack684]

The only place that I can find FTX Global is a place in Australia. And it appears to me it is an internet download only. You don't get a disk. Is that right?

[@flightsim481]

I got it as a download. Not sure if you can get it boxed. The download was from an Australian web store. The download option on the ftx web site directs you straight to there. I'm not sure where else sells it.

[@SmokeStack684]

flightsim481 Thank you for your reply. It is awesome! I enjoyed your video also. I hope I can get it too.

[@flightsim481]

Thanks for your support. :-)

[@Mirandorl]

Are there any add-ons that change the default buildings? I know many people can overlook it, but its jarring to come into land over a beautiful scenery and see those cardboard boxes with windows drawn on. It would be awesome if someone could add a type of moving "instance" around the aircraft once you are under say 500 feet, that renders a small radius of more realistic ground features. For heli flying this would be wonderful. Maybe that is the preserve of sims like Take On Helicopters where the map is small and handcrafted, but I for one would pay for such an add on gladly as I love flying low. Its a sim after all, no ATC to annoy :D EDIT: Just splashed out on a load of Orbx stuff. FTX Vector, Open Europe LC, England and Scotland packs, Northern California, Lake Tahoe and Palm Springs. I fancy some flights from Palm Springs to Lake Tahoe. I wonder if I will have enough fuel lol. Also some jaunts from Aberdeen to London, cos thats where I am from :)

[@flightsim481]

I know what you mean. The FTX scenery improves it slightly, but in essence, I guess very few sims are optimised for scenery at altitudes of less than 500'. I've not really looked into it. ORBX do do some payware for a few smaller airfields such as Shoreham which have better buildings. Likewise, there are quite a few payware options for larger airports. In terms of changing the 'autogen' buildings, I would suggest looking at freeware on places such as www.flightsim.com or www.avsim.com. I don't personally know of any payware which swaps out the buildings.

[@Mirandorl]

flightsim481 Thank you for your reply, yes indeed I have DCS World too, and the low-altitude experience is quite lacking even with the smaller map size as well. They look to be addressing this in DCS 2.0 though, as for a sim mostly about ground attack aircraft you really need convincing ground assets. I will have a trawl around on those sites you recommended and come back to you if I find anything!

[@flightsim481]

No problem. I find the same thing with DCS, but the DCS World engine has been around quite a bit. Waiting for DCS World 2.

[@Nirond]

mate i ve got error FSX\g3d.dll it come from ORBX FTX have you got this error? i ve seen on forum they say come from ORBX England have you got this error how did you fix?

[@flightsim481]

+Nirond Hi, I have never had that error so can't help, sorry.

[@Nirond]

+flightsim481 well luck you then, google it you will see a lot of plp with the same problem ORBX d3d.dll error i already deleted ORBX england and the error gone, i guess i won;t install again! maybe when they make updates

[@AidanMillward]

Holy shit! Fenland! That small town in the distance is Holbeach and where I grew up. Don't miss it one bit 😆 Only thing is though that road does do that, only there is a village there and is a little closer to the airfield.

[@paulus474]

Do you need to install FTX England over FTX Global, or is it a "standalone"?

[@flightsim481]

No it can be used stand alone

[@samiulhaque8238]

is it possible to install ftx england without installing thee base package the global one?

[@flightsim481]

Yes, most regional scenery areas are stand alone and don't need the global package. However, check the website. Generally if it is being sold as a 'region' it shouldn't need global but it's always worth double checking.

[@skyrider828]

I get a black screen between 33:30 and 37:50 - the period just before when you said your PC crashed. Nobody else seeing this?

[@flightsim481]

Thanks and my apologies. I'm not sure why that has happened, seems very odd to have the sound but no video. It was recorded with Fraps and other than stitching sections together is unedited. Unfortunately I don't have the original recording, si I'll amend the description. Sorry.

[@IANFOLAN11]

hey thats my home town walney island , well its barrow in furness

[@brent4770]

Are also using Orbx global vector?

[@flightsim481]

Not in this because FTX regions such as England, Scotland etc. have their own mesh, vector and landclass data within that region..

[@brent4770]

That's good to know to save some money! : )

[@flightsim481]

I often just buy the regions I generally fly in the most to keep costs down.

[@JELB1960]

That's good to know. For the price of FTX Global Base one could nearly buy two large regions within a given country. I'll probably hold off on buying Global Base until it's on sale again.

[@Flat1998]

JELB1960 or just get it for free on pirate bay as I did ^^

[@catmar1944]

I use UK2000 VFR 1,2 and 3 plus all their extreme airports which are very good, I'm guessing you do too.

[@flightsim481]

Hi, I used to use the vfr airports series, but I un-installed them before installing FTX. Whilst not 100% accurate, the FTX airfields are good enough that I haven't bothered installing the UK2000 vfr airfields again. The only airfields I have re-installed are the 'extreme' ones.

[@catmar1944]

Each to his or her own. I really like the UK2000 airports and of course I know the VFR fields are not 100 percent accurate, when I checked them against Google Earth they are pretty close I'd say. I have subbed as I enjoy your videos. I really need to upgrade my hardware as it's really feeling the pinch. I managed to get the thing they call money (another story) and buy the GTX970 GPU but with my i7-950 OC to 4Ghz it really struggles at International Airports. Thinking of the i7-4790K but it's pretty pricey, which of course means a newer motherboard as mine has not got the correct cpu pinout for the 4790, they really know how to get you to spend.

[@flightsim481]

Clive-Albert Dodd Quite right with each to their own. :-) Don't get me wrong, I had the VFR airports installed for years, and enjoyed them so much I'll probably re-install them again when I get time. FTX makes a good approximation, UK2000 VFR are much more accurate buildings and 3d object wise and the select UK2000 extreme airports are superb, if a little frame rate hungry. I upgraded a few months ago to an i5 4690k from a very old i5 and the change was superb. However, now I fancy an i7-4790k to really get the most from FSX but at the moment that's just not financially realistic. I suspect the vast majority of us are in that situation with a hobby that can eat money very easily. Thanks for subscribing though, very much appreciated, and glad you enjoy the videos.

[@unit0033]

this orbx might look good but a nightmare to load, cant get it working properly. thought it was supposed to be easy to use

[@SuperTechno2012]

30:08 Thats not the London eye, thats the millennium dome! XD

[@flightsim481]

+SuperTechno2012 Doh!

[@SuperTechno2012]

+flightsim481 It's all good! Nice video!

[@dominquejam]

what your average frame rate

[@flightsim481]

Andre Buckley Depend on the add ons. I generally set my display settings using a demanding aircraft and demanding scenery and then tweak the settings to achieve a minimum of 25 fps. I use the Aerosoft A320 Extended over London. Having used that to determine my settings, FTX England rarely gives frame rates below 35 with most aircraft. I didn't find FTX England having much of an impact, but that was with my machine and settings.

[@annesteele9806]

I tried this before buying FTX England, mine was different but i do have Land class and Vector

[@jeffpuha8187]

Orbx FTX England is quite nice indeed. The major problem I see with the Orbx regional, or area, add-ons is that there simply aren't enough of them, especially if you live in the USA and do most of your flying there, as I do. We only have FTX regional add-ons for the Pacific Northwest, Northern California, Southern Alaska, and parts of the Rocky Mountain States. Nothing whatsoever for the middle of the country or the East-where I hail from. And it's been that way for a year and a half now. I think that's seriously disappointing. It seems Orbx has forgotten about us. Many of their US airport add-ons are very obscure, as well, at the exclusion of more useful and higher-trafficked ones. So, as one who primarily flies in America, I simply can't justify buying-into the Orbx "system". It's a shame because their regional add-ons really are superior.

[@flightsim481]

+Jeff Puha Hi Jeff, I'm quite sure many in the USA share your thoughts regarding coverage and choice of airports. It's a shame given the effects and appearance the scenery can generate.

[@jeffpuha8187]

flightsim481 Yes. Indeed it is. Thanks for the reply. Perhaps I'll be forced to move to the Mother Country. :) Jeff

[@IANFOLAN11]

its the irish sea off the coast of walney ;)

[@ilyushka00]

FTX England is a nice product especially that I fly exclusively in the UK, but vectors are lacking. Many of the important river lines are missing. I know ORBX products are not intended for VFR flying, but they should at least include proper vectors around the VRPs.

[@maydaygoingdown5602]

ilyushka00 Lol, Orbx England is a terrible representation of England lol. The last time England had that much endless Green fields was back in the 18th century lol. And have you noticed the total lack of autogen ie trees and vegetation all around the Welsh borders hahaha it's laughable. I ended up buying orbx Wales too to try and improve it but that's totally laughably unrealistic too. England even added airports to parts where there aren't any such as Truro etc lol. The nearest airport to Truro is in Newquay, Truro doesn't have one lol. It's totally obvious that the maker of both England and Wales has never been or ever flown over it...them...as they would surely know and see it's not A, nothing but green grass and fields, B, land marks are missing all over the place, ie where is Runcorn bridge etc, and what happened to the famous City of Chester? Where's the landmarks? It's an old Roman City... it's full of them lol. All in all it needs to be reworked from scratch, Get rid of at least half the endless green and change it to built up concrete jungle, like I said it's not been this green since king Henry the 8th,...I almost expect to see Robin Hood and his merry men to stroll out of the tree lines when flying over Nottingham lol.

[@J_Madison]

Damn nice landing sir

[@flightsim481]

Thankyou :-)

[@ivanfojan8859]

Barrow is on the Irish sea, which is part of the atlantic, lol

[@florichi]

thats the 2nd vid i watch on your channel, and as the first one i have a black video after about minute 30. sound is there but no vid. anyone else has this problem? (minute 33 to 38)

[@Gavabanga]

nice slideshow )

[@flightsim481]

VVindblade Thanks :-)

[@carrma3831]

I was screaming at my iPad during this, it took forever to cut to the chase

[@Liofa73]

Doesn't your ipad have a slider to skip ahead?

[@Flightguy69]

That's because his was born without one! LOOOOL

[@SkipperMac]

No, its definitely the Irish Sea off Walney Island, Cumbria, NOT the Atlantic Ocean lol. But, apart from that, and interesting video comparison.

[@flightsim481]

Lol, I knew it was one or the other. Either way, glad you found it interesting.

[@audigex]

Irish Sea or Atlantic Ocean, it's not short of wind, at any rate

[@justinbailey5131]

You sound so much like Squirrel

[@flightsim481]

Quite a few people tell me that.

[@ParallaxRS]

I think it's his delivery and informativeness than his voice to be honest

[@MuratAyata]

just look at the LPMA OR KLGA or KJFK or PAKT they did not care addon before them no calculation airport elevation it is also very hart to uninstall

[@SuperSivla]

If your looking for something a tiny bit better than the turgid rubbish that is the default's simulator scenery then maybe you should consider it. However it's nothing new, it isnt hyper realistic, in fact there seems to be an awful lot of random field generation that look identical in shape and size. Rivers look like they have just been slapped into the ground scenery from around 10,000 ft. I have tried to be forgiving over the years, and hoping for massive updates and improvements, but venema has done nothing when he should have done some major reworking for realism. After all thats the point we buy ground scenery, why we buy weather software, why we buy flight planning software, I could go on, but my point is simple, your trying to make your flight simulator as realistic and immersive as possible and for the cost of buying these UK countries, amounts to being ripped off if your really going for immersive. I generally dont fly VFR so I am very much less demanding than those who do, but if I can see, what I can at 32000 ft then up close , aside the from the ridiculous blurries which shouldnt exist in p3dv4.5 and dont in xp11, this scenery is an over expensive, concept idea of covering the default scenery, but it is nowhere near fit enough to be used as an immersive tool without complete true earth coverage which is a major revamp of this scenery software by the same developer. Reasonable to go good if you have nothing but bare bones flight sim scenery, but if your looking for something awesome and realisitic, then you should be aiming for true earth by orbx and not this expensive mistake they made...by the way you need p3dv4 or xp11 for true earth.

[@richardspeed2472]

Its annoying that in a bigger aircraft a320 all payware the framews on this game becomes useless even with a fast pc, but then I relised this is just a pc version sim... real life sim's cost over 5 million so yeah....

[@NoFaithNoPain]

Weird. I just flew over Walney Island today .And bought FSX yesterday. For the record, the realism is garbage. Sorry, it is. x-plane does a reasonable job though.

[@SuperTechno2012]

Ever heard of realism settings?

[@NoFaithNoPain]

SuperTechno2012 Ever heard of substandard?

[@BeerHuntor]

ever heard of a 10+ year old graphics engine?? That was how it was back then.

[@speedygon21]

such a glitchy ass game

[@alfredwhite4133]

300th like!

[@jeffreydavis8423]

wow! loox good from Ohio! lol. few yrs later, maybe even cheaper. gotta go chk the www. T/Y 4 d vid

[@theOnly_Gatsby]

Don't but ORBX - I lost $150 - the installer failed and no support - buyer beware.

[@Flightguy69]

I agree! I will not support them. I was trying to contact them to ask about specific scenery and they told me that in order for them to help me, I had to purchase the scenery first, set up and account and ask in the forum. So basically no support or way of asking about specific scenery because they will shut the door on people unless you buy their scenery first. I would steer clear of a company like OrbX and tell people to use FS Global instead. Better company and better support.

[@xsamthox1918]

jajajaja landing fuck !!