Orca Brains and Intelligence - Dr. Lori Marino at Whale Museum, Friday Harbor

[@sarahsvideologs6213]

That one dislike is surely from SeaWorld.

[@jaymarcase9737]

Sarah Gulifardo hahahahah

[@horse-lover68]

😂😂😂👍👍

[@horse-lover68]

@@jaymarcase9737 you are an idiot and you know it

[@jaymarcase9737]

@@horse-lover68 very true.

[@gregorsmith]

The evil cult

[@adelvoid1530]

what a wonderful person and lecture

[@texasforever7887]

After talking about the brains and the captive orcas I'm extremely depressed right now. It's like living in a sensory deprivation chamber in solitary confinement. Talk about going insane 😩

[@AnnetteLouiseBickford]

So good -- thank you!

[@janjohnson3116]

This is really fascinating !

[@rorke6092]

Thanks for the upload!

[@timbarnett3898]

I had several encounters but had one major contact with 5 member pod! I have picture of his dorsal fin an would try to identify him, thanks! Tim

[@seese9456]

These intelligent beings are like humans in solitary confinement, because they can't function without social interactions without getting "stir-crazy"

[@AH-ph3cb]

People who counter argue this presentation fail to realize how much data goes into this. She needs to condense her findings and reword it to an audience that likely may not fully understand neuroscience. wHeRe aRe tHe FaCtS? How do you doorknobs expect her to condense decades of research, MRIs, collaborations and cross examinations into a 1-2 hour lecture? We would be here all day if she had to break every point down. I doubt the people challenging her actually take the time to read all of the published research.

[@theappler9516]

fr people are forgetting that this is a lecture open to the general public, majority of people there wont have a huge understanding of animal neurology and paleontology and evolutionary history

[@Zamolxes77]

My guess why humans went to the Moon and dolphins didn't: We evolved around using tools, dolphins evolved around using eco location, sound. A space ship is basically a tool and to date, nobody can fathom how you can get to the Moon using sound. In my opinion, dolphins have to pass through at least one more paradigm shift, from using sound to using tools, or something else, but I can't tell what that "else" might be.

[@Lincorn1]

For humans to develop (and any other animal) everything else that existed was also needed, without everything else we would not have evolved. Just as we need everything else to even exist.

[@markus9415]

@Zamolxes77 In regards to the vocal cords and the opposite thumb.. Yes we are the most advanced species able to use tools... Brainpower on the other hand.. The orca has twice the neurons :D Has a seperate part in the brain dedicated to language and emotion. In that regard we are far behind and we know much less than we actually think we know. Sometimes i wonder how our arrogance evolved..... Planes came into existence by looking at the birds.. "Look deep into nature and you will understand everything better"

[@yumyumlolly]

I think we only progressed so far because we have hands to build complicated tools and structures

[@markus9415]

@@yumyumlolly Opposite thumbs. But we are not the only mammels that use tools :). Thumbs aren't unique. Our vocal cords are though. But the orca has a few characteristics even we don't have and are truly unique in nature.

[@yumyumlolly]

@@markus9415 yeah I know other animals use tools too like the Chimpanzees and such :). I was talking about Orcas not having hands so it's hard to use that as a measure for intelligence. Overall, I think they are a very intelligent, complexed and compassionate species.

[@ImaGodandsatan]

Were is the admin of this world server?🤔 So i can change my class to orca!😍

[@wadepatton2433]

Free diving with the whales and porpoises--on my to do list!

[@texasforever7887]

Seaside sanctuary for the rest of the captive whales needs to be done but don't try to rerelease. What happened to Keiko pisses me off to this day. We abandoned and murdered him.

[@CleverClover2023]

No one abandoned or murdered him. Yes he wasnt a release candidate. There were lots of things done that hindered his chances of being wild again. No one knew where his family was, he was always being trained to do things instead of being reconditioned to be wild and taught to be independent. Some captive wild born whales have a chance at being rehabed and released, but not all of them.

[@cristinaregalado1440]

He wasn't abandoned, please watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXyldqillt1_Y7c . It shows the behind the scenes of Keikos release and how much preparation it took. But he was never ever abandoned

[@Tyrannosaurine]

Totally screwed up Tilikum, as well. What we did to that poor whale is a tragedy and it’s no surprise he acted out in the way he did. It is surely OUR fault, not his.

[@my2cents980]

Justin Vavala your 💯 % correct! How do you think a human would have behaved! They striped him and every other orcas basically to a mental hospital room with padded walls , no windows , starving them throwing dead fish down there throats in hot chemically treated water where they all get bad skin diseases, sunburns, hundreds of deadly mosquito bites ( which has killed them) they all have ulcers and a plethora of medication! Stuck in solitary confinement for there usual SHORT lives ! They usually last just a couple years before they smash their heads in and commit suicide! we know what happens to human prisoners! Imagine 40 years of torture! Hundreds of studies are done regarding their mortality rate........and by the way-orcas have been know to use tools! They have that 3rd section that we no little about! They don’t FU*#Up there environment and pollute and destroy mother earth they also are the only Apex predator that does not war with each other they are highly evolved way more so than humans who have been killing each other for thousands and thousands of years we can’t even get that straight also these animals have a better sense of family then humanity could ever wrap their head a round! I could go on forever!

[@SageRosemaryTime]

@@my2cents980 Well said . .I'm curious . . .What tools have they used ?

[@TalithaKum236]

8:35 min "Then something happened" :-)))))))

[@Zamolxes77]

11:11 They found a Monolith :)

[@timeless74]

Something happen ???? 🤷

[@P1TD0G]

Pha loves Pa…

[@billymeadows328]

If an orca could use a pencil, even the dumbest orca could make Einstein look dumb.

[@tarlcabbot6880]

Why does that woman stand up there and flat out lie? I found at least a dozen holes in her narrative.

[@dakini365]

Feel free to list the 12, Tarl.

[@s3hunna]

So say what they are….?? Or did you just need some attention

[@leogama3422]

How many whale fossils have you ever studied? Let me guess...

[@umtheelementofconfusion]

Don't worry about those other comments, I listed them it may not be twelve but its better than nothing. :)

[@sandyjones4393]

Twice the size brain than human, we're not so smart.

[@jeanku]

clearly you are one of those... twice the size of the brain on how much the size of the body.

[@umtheelementofconfusion]

SORRY IM GOING TO BE THE ONE YOU COME AFTER BUT FIRST LETS LISTEN CLOSELY! 38:52 She admitted that her and her team of researchers were making an assumption and that they could be wrong and not know what the Paralimbic lobe really does. Alright, first of all she never mentions seaworld not once (this is for all the people that go directly to seaworld for blame of these things) and in 45:27 brings up a slide showing life range, in the slide the life range for a captive orca she clearly says does not exceed 20 years. Sorry but YES THEY DO! Seaworld has proven that with the age of their orcas. Here is something to think about if their communication intelligent then why is it if they get caught in fishing string the other orcas don't help to set them free? If they are in trouble they are able to communicate that, but when their pod arrives to save them why don't they know what to do?

[@AH-ph3cb]

A couple of outliers extending beyond 20 years old does not have merit against the average premature death rate at seaworld. While I am a scientist with blood and body fluids, the principle with averaging data and leveraging bias still applies regardless. What a ridiculous comment.

[@AH-ph3cb]

They die in nets because man put them there. Their evolution precedes us by millions of years. They don't need us, if anything we are a hindrance and a burden.

[@ArsinoeVI]

many captive orcas do not reach the age of twenty and exceptions are not generalities you can do “cherry-picking”, it will not change the fact that captive orcas live less than wild orcas while in general a captive animal lives longer and I don't see where you're going with your last question? I found almost nothing about orcas caught in fishing string just two cases of orcas with fishing line wrapped around their necks making them suffocate and you may have very sophisticated communication without hands you can't do anything... although they are not 100% sure that the Paralimbic lobe is linked to emotions This remains the most probable hypothesis and even if it wasn't orcas remain the animals (including humans) with the largest insular cortex linked to emotions and consciousness