ORDINARY MEN - The "Forgotten Holocaust" | Official Trailer | BROADVIEW PICTURES

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[@SchwarzeBananen]

Why did they shoot? Not because they hated Jews, not because they were Germans. They shot because everyone else in the group shot. This behaviour appears due to its murderous consequences so appalling, but it is very normal human behaviour. One can find if every day, but -- luckily -- with less deadly outcome. Not doing what everyone else does, facing up to being rediculed, not to care about being shunned by the group, is apparently rather difficult. A lone wolf mentality and not having the desire to be part of a group helps enormously to think and act freely.

[@bethanyann85]

Exactly! Humans are very tribal and very much desire to fit in and be accepted. It's extremely hard to go against the grain and take a stand. Everyone looking back can easily say they wouldn't have done it, but you can never truly know that. I'm sure none of those men, if asked years earlier, would have said they would do it either.

[@XPL1010]

I mean, since 10,000 years we kill and massacre each other. It is hard to know where to start the count down....Men is a wolfe to men and this is not the governement or deep state fault....it is the fault of men! Men is a killer and it is really weel explain in this documentary. But we always try to find something eles responsible because we are not looking at ourself in the mirior. Répondre

[@calc1657]

If you were in the SS, then you very likely had certain attitudes towards the Jews and towards Nazi ideology.

[@markkamp2255]

It seems to be that the driving factor was essentially peer pressure? And the fear of being shamed or excluded from the social group. It is truly frightening.

[@Uneldo7]

the lesson here is don't try to be one of the cool kids. Trying to fit in has no merit. If you are trying to fit in in work or at school, you would be one of the murderers.

[@ALLw3rk]

COVID 19?

[@DawnSTyler]

The thing that makes people most dangerous is when they imagine all the evil in the world to be outside of them. Under the illusion of that projection, people turn themselves into the exact evil they think they are fighting against in the process of fighting against it. I've come to believe that this dynamic is at the heart of almost, if not all of the evil committed in this world.

[@justsayno2458]

This is why if we feel convicted or ashamed of something, we should be grateful and pay attention to that feeling. Thank God for bringing it to mind and then ask Him for forgive you for whatever you did. If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

[@ignorantlyspeaking]

The belief in "evil" is a scapegoat for probably most who believe. They can just blame evil and the devil. It takes away accountability. You are absolutely right, people separate themselves in their mind while being or becoming exactly what they oppose. We see it every day in people who claim sides politically In our minds we think of ourselves as on the right side of things, which is exactly why one-time killers don't identify as being murderers, same with one-time sex offenders, especially sexual assualt. We are capable of anything if we see the logic in it, even if that logic is purely coercion.

[@phaedrussmith1949]

@justsayno2458 Religion has been the root cause of much of this horror over the millenia. Under your theory, if all of these men confessed their sin of this atrocity and asked for forgiveness then all is well with them. The Jewish people, on the other hand, are not as they don't believe in your concept of what god is.

[@zachmerrill1281]

I just saw this documentary and felt sick after wards. The message was clear. We are all "ordinary men". With the same ability to blindly follow a government narrative and in fact do unspeakable things. I had to look in the mirror and see if I had any signs of this in me. The documentary states that we all do, and to be aware of our own inner dialogue with would lead us down a regrettable path.

[@josephllinas2672]

Did you wear a mask? Or support lock downs? If so. You have your answer. Alot of us do. God help us

[@zachmerrill1281]

I could not agree with you more. I did not support those damn lock downs or masks. However I was forced to wear one at work. As for the jab...I regret having taken the shots and will never do it again.@@josephllinas2672

[@jjbluefalcon4ever552]

@@josephllinas2672you’re delusional.

[@XAnimazingX]

​@@josephllinas2672Im sorry, but I dont think wearing a mask and staying home is the same as shooting women and children.

[@XAnimazingX]

I couldn't finish watching it. I just felt nauseous. I'd like to believe I'm not like that. but peer pressure is psychologically very tough.

[@Brumtownrandoms]

This video is very important because of the times we live in now. These historic events hold the keys to prevent it repeating

[@litarmleka3511]

What about 700.000 Serbian casualties in death camps across Croatia? That's obviously not important to mention.

[@litarmleka3511]

@robertstallard7836 yes you idiot, we are because the percentage of lost population kiled by the non resident enemy is the highest in the world. 30% of gross population. China lost les than 5%, and all other wars were civil wars. Only jews can compare but they didn't have country back then, they were minority.

[@franklarza1369]

Yeah but those weren’t genocides didn’t take place during the holocaust like this one did. All he is stating is why is that aspect of the genocide never looked at.

[@steelydanlover1972]

That's because this is a documentary specifically about the Einsatzgruppen and THEIR atrocities, not about the Estate and their atrocities.

[@litarmleka3511]

@@steelydanlover1972 I am pointing to Netflix funding this shit repealing nazism, and trying to water out the crimes. Worse stories are coming from Croatia, they cooked the kids on fire in front of the parents. The guy skinned the priest's child in front of him, and the priest passed out several times. Guess what, he flew to Argentina and became a local teacher.

[@againstcowards]

My ancestors were from Austria and Soviet Union and Jewish. There’s a lot of similarity stories but in regard of following human laws I always follow the 10 COMMANDMENTS! Don’t let anyone dictate your moral compass!!!

[@ximenafigueroasanmartin5243]

I just watched this, and it made perfect sense for me. It helped me understand my own history. They were brainwashed to hate other chileans because of their political views. Some people still nowadays, after 50 years since the military coup, celebrate the "Second independence" when the armed forces freed us from communisim. Lest we forget our missing loved ones. Thank you Netflix for uploading Patricio Guzman's films about our shameful and painful latest history.

[@Ryan_hey]

Just so others know the context of your comment, I'm guessing you're talking about the coup lead by military dictator Pinochet against Salvador Allende, a democratically-elected Marxist, on September 11th, 1973. For those in the US, not sure if we have any Patricio Guzman films, but we do have "Remasted: Massacre at the Stadium".

[@ximenafigueroasanmartin5243]

@@Ryan_hey exactly what Im talking about; I hope you can watch his work, Guzman gives a glimpse into the horror without seeking pity or sowing hate. He is remarkable

[@ericsahagun5344]

I'm only in minute 10 How the hell am I going to get through 50 minutes of this bullshite! I've heard enough I'm turning it off!

[@m.forrestal5893]

Pity... you might have actually learned something... about yourself!

[@TemmieContingenC]

I hope you changed your mind

[@SarahLovestravelling]

Amazing documentary! It’s worth watching it. RIP sir. Benjamin Ferencz and all jews/people dead unfairly. 🥺

[@kellykovak5841]

It wasn’t just Jews, it was Slavs and gypsies too. Read the history books, people

[@bruceerwin5430]

Covid showed us how willingly people followed stupid rules, and so many people saw their opportunity to enforce that dogma on the rest of us.

[@pyaesone5463]

Propaganda Documentary from Germans

[@TemmieContingenC]

No it’s actually a pretty good take on explaining why otherwise ordinary, decently minded individuals stooped down to such depravity and rationalized to, which helps explain how such a horrible event could be perpetrated in the first place. Not like these guys spawned out of the pits of hell. I suggest you read the book

[@moester75]

This is an outstanding documentary on the Holocaust good job Netflix. Any amateur anthropologist will appreciate “Ordinary Men”. This breaks it down to who was actually pulling the trigger at point blank range before the gas chambers became functional. It’s also interesting that not one case of any German policeman or soldier being punished cat all for refusing that duty and being reassigned elsewhere so they did have an excuse to not exterminate civilians. The self preservation argument is not valid.

[@TigerTankIII]

Ich liebe die deutschen so sehr

[@phaedrussmith1949]

The banality of evil. I can see this occurring anywhere, anytime once the right circumstances present themselves. In fact, I think most (if not all) civilized societies are closer to this at any given moment than most people think.

[@SamRichardson1990]

Dont we all experienced this 2 years ago for 2 years. people were forced to keep away because govt told them to.

[@zelgkopitar8799]

How was it accomplished? I wondered the same thing myself for about 38 years and then covid happened and I saw how quickly people obeyed simple recommendations and why our government can now say that they never actually "forced" anyone to get the vaccine. I saw how quickly authorities of all levels asked how high when told to jump. I saw how quickly people that we used to considered compassionate turned on those that refused blind obedience. Now remove what little tolerance we have today and the ease at which information is shared and it begins to look like a remarkably simple thing to accomplish.

[@Chriskros1984]

Yes lets compare the Holocaust with covid period … you feel like a victim too huh .. poor boy

[@salmirza]

Well that was a gigantic leap and other level mental gymnastics 😮 wearing a mask vs shooting people in the head at point blank range?!??

[@zelgkopitar8799]

I'm not saying the level of the acts are the same, goofball. I'm saying that it was extremely easy to get a large country to turn against another and quickly begin treating each other like shit with a lot of hatred based on a whole lot of unproven and down right wrong information. How many vids have you seen in the past few years of maskers losing their shit in grocery stores because someone is not wearing a mask that isnt even effective anyways? Societal cohesion is fragile and easily manipulated and governments know it.@@salmirza

[@kerogre256]

@@salmirza Actually hi got a point, I think you did not get a movie...

[@josephllinas2672]

Yep. You nailed it. We know who the camp guards will be next time. We know who will support the camps and trains and rules.

[@toddandangelbrowning2920]

The narrator…….Brian Cox?

[@asteroidesilverio]

Nazionalism.

[@jamesnoonanyoutube]

After watching most of this documentary, I think the best form of government is a government where no one can ever say “I was just doing what I was told”. Where all responsibility goes to the individual. This should extend to things like following training or following doctor’s orders. For example I’ve been told doctors used to think smoking was perfectly healthy, and people say they became smokers simply because that’s how it was in those days. This is another form of mass stupidity which doesn’t hold the individual responsible. You can also look at how those working with mentally disadvantaged types of people were trained to deal with them, and this is held as some form of excuse for those working within those institutions. I think it should always go to the individual, and when this is the main drive you will be less likely to fall into these traps

[@SamRichardson1990]

Society where Govt has zero control like africa or india.

[@orlando124431]

and they mostly all walked free

[@biseragjurovska1998]

Great documentary!

[@wykrywaczbulszitu8773]

Myster obama obejrzyj sobie "Zwykli ludzie"-Ordinary Men: The "Forgotten Holocaus" z 2023r to może raz na zawsze sie nauczysz czyje te obozy były! #obama #blummer

[@AndresNostos]

It was a Beatuful documentary, but frightening at the same time. Nowadays, you can still feel how people will find ways not only to see themselves different from others but also "superior," and with the right circumstances, a new genocide will happen.

[@nikolairomanoff6969]

This is a good documentary on Netflix. How I wish there will be other episodes about the Nazi perpetrators on the Holocaust. They can also talk about willing collaborators for other episodes.

[@SamuliHalonen]

Book is better, this docu was too short and didn`t told much about these ordinary men...And Otto Ohlendorf was not even part of this polizei unit.

[@0SlowOperator0]

They say that they had the option if they wanted to shoot because urs "documented" but documents can be complete bull shit. They also only filmed 1 of the executions because it was suppose to be kept "secret". They very easy could have threatened the men and told them if they didnt execute orders theyd be killed themselves. History is written by the victir often times lies about the actual truth.

[@ericsahagun5344]

Now what was the national socialist policy ... hmmm let me think 🤔🙄😠 So they were to seek out intellectuals clergy and Jews ... Jewish clergy or any clergy at all which was it boys of this documentary!?

[@1voluntaryist]

It's a sad fact that we have to add the redundant adjective, "rational" to the concept "self-interest" or "selfishness". An irrational self-interest or an irrational selfishness is a contradiction, i.e., an oxymoron. But, since that fact is not commonly, instantly recognized, it is necessary. Additionally, I don't like to focus on the role (end) of govt. as most do. It's a distraction, a waste of time. I would focus on the means of govt. because "The means determines the end". Since the govt. means is taken for granted, not debated, not even identified, to skip it and go to the end of govt. causes a great deal of confusion. I would begin with criticism and rejection of the initiation of force, threat, which is the political paradigm all governments use. This overwhelms, impedes reason, rights, choice, which should be the first focus as the political paradigm. The worldwide political paradigm harms us, e.g., "The Most Dangerous Superstition" by Larken Rose, gives examples of how anti-life, inhuman, irrational, the worship of authority can be. Past societies practiced human sacrifices and forced them on all, no exceptions allowed, no respect for dissent, discussion that might eventually change the practice. People who disagreed were not even allowed to exist. They were murdered. Superstition together with coercion is not scientific. It's not rational to exclude ideas by violence, threats, fraud. But the initiation of force, threats, fraud, is accepted "on faith", i.e., superstitiously, as "orderly", "civilized", and the opposite, i.e., non-violence, reason, rights, choice, is claimed to be chaos, anarchy, and is stopped by force. This is species suicide. Eventually, if the custom "get alone, go along by obeying authority" continues, humanity will self-destruct.

[@GoogleUser-wy2vv]

Different cultures repond differently to this...

[@Broomba51]

Ordinary Men by Christopher Browining excellent book chronicles the Police Battalion 101 known as the Einsatzgruppen.

[@Broomba51]

@robertstallard7836 Wrong the book is based on the Einsatzgruppen the Police Battalion in Poland after the invasion in 1939. I read the book and took a class on the NAZIS and Holocaust as a grad student and studied both incidents.

[@Broomba51]

There was 3 Einsatzgruppen groups -- Poland and 2 in Hungary. Einsatzgruppen A, B, and C!

[@Ярослава-в9ш]

It's a good documentary with the main message sounding loud and clear, yet I can't help but feel the hypocrisy of the authors to conveniently omit the most recent genocide taking place in the heart of Europe. Ordinary russian men slaughtering and torturing Ukrainians in Bucha, Izium, Mariupol, Yahidne, Kherson and targeting civilians every day simply for being Ukrainians or, as they believe, "the wrong kind of russians" to please their neofascist regime, while millions of ordinary russians cheer at home. Yet, I guess that this fact, happening in 2022-2023, is not worth mentioning. Maybe, the authors felt like the allusion to current events is implied, or maybe, the same logic just doesn't apply to russians, as always.

[@Ярослава-в9ш]

@marktaylor3489 All those being who? Name one except for Azov, who only ring a bell because the media coverage on them, incited by russian propaganda, is blown out of proportion. Azov is nationalist, sure, more on the right spectrum, but not neo-nazi as a whole. That said, they still have a very versatile range of individuals serving there - from gay people to Muslims to ethnic Russians. I doubt they would serve there, had the regiment indeed promote the ideals that exclude those groups. Ukraine has no more white supremacists than any other country in the world, less than the US or russia for that matter. Some of the russian soldiers are long-known neo-nazis, and they go as far as to say that openly on prime time on national television in russia, and it is not criticised or shamed in any way, but rather encouraged. Biggest russian "opposition" political prisoner Navalny, the documentary about whom in 2023 (best timing) receives an oscar, is a white supremacist leader in the past, conducting marches in mid 2000s for "white russia". Sure, almost any country or nation has some individuals supporting neo-nazi ideals, Ukraine probably being no exception. This fact however is weaponized almost exclusively against Ukraine, often serving as an excuse to deny Ukraine the support. Do you know why? Because russia perpetuates this myth about Ukrainians, overlooking (and secretly condoning) their own neo-nazi movement. Do you know why? Because russian government is fascist and imperialist in nature, and unlike any other nation, they say that openly on their major media every day and writing articles and essays how Ukraine and Ukrainians doesn't/shouldn't exist. And that is truly a unique situation because somehow in the modern world that strongly opposes such ideology russia is probably the only country who gets to openly favor it and get awat with it. I'm honestly amazed at the scale of how much the people are willing to let it slide to continue cherishing an illusion of russian humanism. With all thar preamble, I still wonder what your initial comment about neo-nazis is aimed at. Say, you're right, Azov is Nazi (which it isn't). How is it relevant to my initial statement that russians killed thousands of people, and the world must hold them accountable? And that the authors might've wanted to include this most recent and evident case of "ordinary men" committing genocide because it aligns with their message perfectly? Do you mean to say that, since because there might be individual nazi advocates in Ukraine, russia is justified for killings and torture? Or do you just bring it up to unjustly tarnish Ukraine's reputation, so that people sympathize with us less? Or is it one of those "it's not all black and white" statements? Because I think in this case it's pretty clear who the perpetrator is.

[@dking1213]

​@@Ярослава-в9шUkraine needs volunteers. When are you going?

[@oleksandrapoliakova7495]

​@marktaylor3489and then you have a Russian regime justificator in the comments.

[@TemmieContingenC]

As another comment put it, it’s one message in a sea of many. They aren’t here to cherry pick what is and isn’t valid it’s just one slice of a pie. Maybe the people behind this simply aren’t experts in that war or just had more of a drive to talk about this subject which I don’t see any issue with. Strange criticism

[@Ярослава-в9ш]

@@TemmieContingenC Well, by that logic, German ordinary men might not have been responsible for WW2; it's just one message in a sea of many. 🤷‍♀ You can attack pretty much any argument with "Oh, it's just a matter of opinion" when some things are just not. Of course, they can talk or not talk about any subject they want. It just seems strange to me to ignore the most recent identical story that perfectly falls into the narrative and involves some of the same powers. I wonder why one would choose to do so. It's like preaching fire safety with a fire in the room.

[@SamsungA-fo8rg]

This documentary completely missed the point and does not do the purpose of the book any justice. I'd recommend anyone to read the book.

[@GoogleUser-wy2vv]

How?

[@SamsungA-fo8rg]

@@GoogleUser-wy2vv By buying the book Ordinary Men.

[@evanaltman9286]

Think back to how people acted in 2020 if you had the audacity to enter a store without a mask. Same thing here

[@GoogleUser-wy2vv]

Stop it.

[@Alan_One1]

Imagine being so offended by masks that you compare wearing them to the Holocaust. If you want a better comparison, look into the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. Soldiers carrying out mass murder of civilians while "just following orders."

[@TheDAT573]

Saw this documentary on Netflix.

[@deep_himself]

Name

[@Foxrich99]

Those "historians & experts" are so damn unnecessary Anyone who read the book could arrive at those conclusions on their own without their useless input.

[@TommyCoster-i4j]

Wye ain't the Romany gypsy mentioned who more got slaughtered

[@16ricarda]

"They were jewish carpenters, office workers, and plumbers - and they murdered Palestinian men, women and children in cold blood, shooting them at point-blank range in the forest, sometimes even after talking to them. Among the many questions posed in a new documentary, Ordinary Men: The Forgotten Nakba, is why these men would take part in such savagery." I changed only three words in this text about the film in order to show, that ANYONE under certain circumstances can become a murderer, not only Germans! Even jews during the ethnic cleansing in Palestine during several massacres against the palestinian population during the 1948 war. Lets not forget that!

[@vanillarain711]

Blah, blah, blah. The Palestinians have been attacking the Israelis ever since 1948 because they think "it's their land". Stop making terrorists out to be innocent people!

[@momsspaghetti2246]

But without a forest.

[@srj607able]

I appreciate everything about this documentary until the last 5 minutes. Showing the issues in Bosnia, Rwanda and Vietnam is hypocrisy at its best . Yes, they're mass killings . But then they also should mention about Stalin, Mao, polpott, Pinochet, the Belgians in Congo and everyone else... the context of those issues are all different. Netflix should have not put that in it. It's gaslighting

[@XPL1010]

I mean, since 10,000 years we kill and massacre each other. Iy is hard to know where to start the count down....Men is a wolfe to men.

[@krazykkarl]

"Everything I don't like must be gaslighting"

[@Alan_One1]

This is about the book "Ordinary Men" and not a comprehensive World History lesson

[@jnf1270]

There's nothing about these men that's sympathetic. I really resent Netflix trying to make us feel sorry for these monsters. They're not even human beings.

[@josephllinas2672]

You missed the point. YOU are the monster. We all are.

[@TaCC2]

Maybe you try to watch and understand the documentary another time

[@jnf1270]

@@josephllinas2672 I do understand what the documentary is trying to say. But it is also trying to show them in a sympathetic way and I don't agree with this

[@marine4lyfe85]

That's the point though. They were average human beings.

[@bethanyann85]

@@jnf1270 it's not about sympathy... nobody is asking you to feel bad for them. The point is just that they were human.... they weren't monsters going in. Every single one of us is capable of horrible things in the right circumstances. Still doesn't make it about sympathy though.