Organic Gardening vs Hydroponics! Which Is Better? (Garden Talk

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Thanks to Adam Dunn for coming onto the podcast today! Adam’s channel- bit.ly/3jzFbOV

[@northernlightkind8041]

Exellent epi with a truu og. Come on mr.C take Adams invitation sharpish. Bless-up

[@benharrup5797]

Hey mate great videos ❤

[@benharrup5797]

Im your biggest fan

[@johnman559]

This guy's too good Chris, it's my second helping, he's very charming and knowledgeable can we have him on again?

[@ironindica7342]

What I got from this episode is that im gonna keep up with organic growing 😂

[@jwgrower81]

Mr grow always bringing the knowledge 🙏 I cnt tell u how many times I've went back and watched sum of these videos mr grow it sure is making a splash in the canabis growing world big ups to u and your guests great work as always

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

I appreciate that. I’m glad you enjoy the content! 🌱

[@knotshure6291]

Loved the episode Chris! Great editing, loved the solo screen of just the guest speaking mixed with the split screen with you and guest, instead of the whole episode split screen. Adam seems like such a humble down to earth dude. Awesome work!!

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

I’m glad you like those changes. I figured it was time to switch things up a little. Cheers 🌱

[@eastcoastgrower420]

I'm finding Hydroponics is working really well for me indoors, and Organic for outdoors

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

👍

[@BAYTESFAMILLY]

I’ve been growing for 6yrs using all your advice and let me say (KNOWLEDGE IS POWER)✌🏾👍🏾Thank You.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Cheers 🌱

[@hopefullyhigh]

The thing that got me into salts, and kept me away from organics for so long was there is no baseline. Nobody ever said "this is all you need to grow organically." Its always "oh this is good for cell structure, and this is good for veg and you'll need this and this and the more varied the sources the better the quality" and all the sudden you need 100 imputs. Its not that complicated get a 3-3-3, worm castings and a bloom. You can do more but thats all you really need.

[@hopefullyhigh]

Hopefully i saved a few people an hour

[@Adam-kf6lr]

You did, I tend to go straight to the comments and maybe watch more later.

[@bbingtube]

Use KNF it’s all either 100:1 , 500:1 , or 1000:1 . Pennies on the dollar any other way save JADAM

[@James-p3m8j]

@@hopefullyhigh All you need is a good start with living soil and basic knowledge of how to read the plants. In this approach you have millions of tiny soil scientists that work 24/7 for you and they are smarter than the humans that study them. In the end it comes down to preference, and which is better is relative.

[@johnman559]

Nice​@@James-p3m8j

[@TheCrowler]

Great talk - as always! Just one side-note on a point that was mentioned: regarding the "only 16 amps" in Amsterdam, keep in mind this is at 230V. So in terms of power this would be equivalent to 30 amps in the US. Also, most houses in western Europe have three phases coming in. So in reality it is 3x16A of 230V each. In a single room however, you usually have just one phase of 16A. So this might be kind of limiting if you don't want to pull cables from a different room / phase. Anyway, even with this limitation you still get 16A x 230V = 3.680 Watts.

[@DanJonesShow]

Exactly! And that's "real" 230VAC, not like the North American/US dual 115VAC neutral to neutral. A LOT of folks in growing do not understand amps/watts and Ohms Law in general when talking about their lights.

[@MedicallyFit]

Enjoy this interview with Adam. Also I've met Adam at his Farmers Market he held last year at his studio. Need a Part 2

[@SuperNessa83]

Dwc buckets that I can switch out and keep clean massive plants huge resin returns

[@rayhare2123]

A living legend mad love to adam dunn

[@freedom_born]

Thank you again Chris. You're a hero to all of us. That part at 21:39 was deep. Most hydro growers will tend to check the equipment first. Then the plants.

[@LazloWoodbine]

Chris ..... I was just thinking this was an episode you needed to do ..... Always one step ahead!!

[@stephendrave1876]

Thanks for your time and effort to get the information out there

[@derekdebois8297]

I learned so much from this one podcast, that guy is an og. People should really take some advice. Thanks mr grow it for providing us with great content. Much appreciated!

[@matthewspring2496]

Been using NFT hydro for 30 years, so easy and great results. Grow organic outside

[@imdrunken]

Hydro always seems to just lack overall quality when compared to a organic soil grow. The pot doesn't have the same tastes and highs

[@lizard9437]

29:56 I can relate to that. I had a 30x30 flower flood and drain system downstairs of a relatives house. Put house in reservoir went up stairs because it usually took 2 hours to fill once cleaned after harvest. Fell asleep and when I ran downstairs to turn it off, I had 5 inches of water under my feet and a waterfall going outside. Once I jumped into the water I crapped myself and jumped back on steps because I thought I might get electrocuted 😂. Ruined all timber and gyprock and took me a month to dry it out. Mold was my biggest concern. Now I just do 10x10 Dutch pot system with a 600 litre reservoir and I couldn’t count the times I’ve been topping reservoir up and forgot about it. I blame the weed for a bad memory 😂

[@777tommys]

Boop, boop, I can relate to him always trying dial in all the things, grown in soil for a while, trying DWC now for potency, flavor comparison and experiments. Watching from Jamaica! Thanks Mr Grow it!🔥💯

[@ITSYVNGGROWING]

I’ve been truly enjoying absolutely every single video you do so much information and it’s free what more can you ask for. Thank you my man keep up the god work and awesome content

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

I'm so glad! Thanks for your positive words 🌱

[@4ll4ll]

I would ask for some visual references but yeah its great anyway

[@Terpyblacc]

Great show! Very informative 👏🏿 I'm attempting to grow the biggest DWC Outdoor tree this year😅 Wish me luck!

[@mr.splackavellie2184]

Can't wait til The Grow Under The Stairs hops on here, gonna be EPIC

[@MinimalRastalien]

Hydro for the win. Always

[@machinegunhippy]

Lol okay 👍

[@sayyamzahid505]

I live in Karachi

[@sayyamzahid505]

@@machinegunhippy I live in Karachi

[@tylerharry6319]

@@MinimalRastalien For weight? Oh yeah. For a good tasty smoke? Nah.

[@tylerharry6319]

For weight? Yeah. For a good tasty smoke? Nah.

[@kushcobain6631]

For people who don’t know. This is one of the founders of TH Seeds. Dude is an OG. Mad respect and love to Adam Dunn.

[@klosiemorris6386]

Good interview 👍 👏 I grow organic soil greenhouse powder feeding and humic and fulvic acid plants looking good 👍 outdoor in South Africa 🇿🇦

[@deanrsnc5385]

Awesome chat loved the content overview of both disiplines so clearly explained and highlighted accross the grow

[@4ll4ll]

Can you please do a talk about Ornamental/Decorative plants/House plants? there are almost zero talks about the science of those plants and their indoor light requirements (Lux or PAR) and how to make them flower and nutrients etc etc

[@4ll4ll]

I keep using weed growing knowledge to help me do an indoor thriving tropical forest but there are no scientific talks about indoor house plants :(, i think BuildASoil Channel started tackling some indoor ornamental plants in their grow tents but not many information yet

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion

[@sunnohh]

Dr Bruce seems right about organic vs synthetic, organics often taste like fertilizer to me and coco stuff is way stinkier and harder nugs. Every time i have done the folgers taste test organic always loses.

[@the_piper001]

love hydro and as long as ph is good it is easy as.i like ebb and flow systems with a reservoir in pots full of perlite with hydrotone in the bottom. feed three or four times a day.

[@sneakybee03]

Love the fact when grabbing my girls home for a feeding just talking and breathing gives them more of what they want, seeing if any little crawlers are nesting is also a plus hand feeding being connected to your medicine

[@malekhaiterron2453]

Always great to see an episode! keep up the good work

[@roywarriner8441]

I'm doing the worm bin for free organic ferts. I pre compost kitchen scraps in a bin right beside my worm bin. Both bins work on the cft method, new material in one end, finished out the other.

[@ozzywazzy]

great show chris execellent guest yet again. love the adam dunn show

[@HarrisBubba]

Mix tape Great episode with Adam Dunn the Sage master select I love the sage and sour to this day one of my favorites from TH SEEDS

[@anthonyromano8565]

I have more time to sit and stare at my plants since I use Blumats to do most of the watering. The time I save I go over my feeding, top dressing, enzyme and worm tea details. I kept analyzing the amount of light I was giving and the temps. No need to fuss about water so much. I originally got them so I could leave for days at a time.

[@jm7929]

Great podcast, Great to hear from the legend Adam Dunn, I'm very surprised of his opinion on hydroponics grown especially with Athena, I believe he used the phrase cardboard terps, well I can say with confidence I've grown the same strains in soil with organic inputs as I've grown with deep water culture and I was skeptical at first but Athena nutrients with deep water culture produces serious terpenes, very comparable if not more than grown in soil. I'm no expert but I would love to hear other people's experiences, Great podcast brother.

[@robbiebanks9182]

Big love from Belfast Chris great interview as always .Love organic growing .Have comppst bin an two worm bins .going .collect my own kelp and oyster shells from shore .keep trout and mackeral heads bones and guts .from fish i catch .only thing i buy to add to my soil is epsom salts .and blood and bone meal .Working brillant for me so much easier and better results than using salts

[@parose1457]

After years of growing, all you gotta do is set up 5 gallon buckets with clay pellet baskets, fish bubbler(optional). Light, 600w hps (or equivalent) on timer, oscillating fan ...all inside a ventilated tent. When buckets get low, mix a new one and carefully lift the basket with roots and slide into a fresh full bucket of solution. You barely have to be home. Even at full flower I could leave town for days. Spend only a few hours TOTAL to proveide enough for me and all my buddies. Don't harvest early, if the buds are still getting bigger, let it go Get a good strain...most important. In my experience, a great strain will produce vey similar smoke notwithstanding different methods.

[@James-p3m8j]

LED's would lower your heat and electric bill, unless you need it to fight the cold.

[@patrickgagne8795]

GReat podcast Chris. I run a commercial high pressure aero grow in Oklahoma (originally from Canada) but I can’t wait to try a greenhouse grow using Natural farming techniques. jadam and KNF is blowing my mind

[@the_gold_canopy]

I think the whole soil vs. wet system argument is actually just a preference as a grower. As a smale scale caregiver, I use chilled aeroponics for early stages of growth then switch to a calcium based nutrient line with soil, and doing this on such a small level with so many pots on a tightly scheduled perpetual rotation, I need to be able to get high yields with undersized pots running high potency top shelf genetics along with low trim-to-flower ratios. Overhead operating costs vs. size, scale, and budget pretty much will dictate what a cultivator chooses as far as methods and gear/equipment, of course chilled wer systems will always surpass organic when it comes to speed and yeild, but the initial costs as well as costs to properly maintain is insane, especially adding regulated Co2, air filtration and climate control (heating/cooling and humid-dehumidification), supplemental UV lighting, and of course all the other overhead that comes with wet systems. A big factor that also currently plays a part in that decision is what the consumer is looking for, and currently everyone wants top shelf organic craft hand-trimmed, properly glass jar cured cannabis at the lowest price.

[@illhellmuss420]

great talk! one of my favourite topics! super interesting episode! 💚🙏🏻💚

[@maidin5747]

Hydro ebb and flow in growrocks is my system of choice been using it for 23 years and it worked for me better than other hydro systems that i tried like dwc or coco. I developed my own system that does great and is automated and everything is light weight and easy to grow and recycle. The medium is reusable and holds salvage value. Roots thrive in that system and plants just love it. It is also very easy to adjust and manipulate like the flooding frequency changing the feeding flushing or controled stress. Organics is not an option for me since i absolutely need light weight reusable pots and automation.

[@rickpeacock7505]

Thanks for the info.. 2 grow under my belt.. both hydro rdwc / top feed drip. Had to learn as I went along. Glad I stuck with hydro though.. getting so much better. Thanks for the info.. great podcast.. grow 3 is germinating now.. next grow will be photos.. can't wait.

[@DaslowAizelasi]

I have been making ferments since I started 2 years ago. Been growing in 5 gallon plastic pots (I just switched to fabric) and I have been using the same Veganic soil since I started.

[@GordGonzola]

Thanks So much gents!

[@jUNiOR-vn6nw]

Colorado in the House! Shout out Adam Dunn.

[@Hulknuts78]

Whoa haven’t seen Adam without Beard Yet crazy !!!! Mr. Grow it Great interview with one of the coolest Growers in the World!!!!

[@noskapok]

I thought this was a very enjoyable episode. I wish that Adam would have expanded on his claims about PGRs in hydroponic nutrients. Do nutrient manufacturers need to disclose on the label when PGRs are present in a formula? Is he claiming that popular nutrient brands geared toward cannabis all contain PGRs? How prevalent is the use of PGRs in commercial production? Many PGRs are classified as pesticides and are therefore not allowed in cannabis production in many states. Rooting hormone is a PGR, and that is used by anyone who takes clones. But there are PGRs that are absolutely harmful when smoked. What compounds is he specifically talking about when he is mentioning PGRs, and why would a nutrient company want to use them? Is he claiming growers are knowingly applying the PGRs themselves or are they ignorant to what they are using?

[@mr.cloudshy7584]

I think he is misinformed and maybe believes there's a conspiracy lol

[@cr2031]

Another thing is pgrs are distinct in how they physically change the look and smell of the bud which from most salt companies we can see aren’t putting pgrs in so yea idk how tf he came to that conclusion

[@timothykramer1856]

Would like more about PGRs. Checked the active ingredients on my General Hydro Floral and not listed. Mr Dunn what manufacturers products contain PGRs. It’s my understanding it’s illegal but for ornamental fertilizers. Is Mr Dunn talking BS as many do in this industry. Did WWW search and did NOT find anything on GH products containing PGRs.

[@RedPillGrower]

Great information as usual, keep up the great work Chris ✌️😎🔥

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Thanks! Will do!

[@rodofsteel6662]

Far north ny on the Canadian border and we get all four seasons it’s nice.

[@casanove9]

wonderful episode thank you Chris

[@mikebird8290]

💚Your Chanel I learn LOADS watching. VERY HELPFUL to all us home grower's 🌱✌🏼🤩

[@robertforte3085]

Great episode great episode. Definitely bring him back on.

[@Pure_Presha]

Awesome show!!! An OG with a history of Bubblegum, Sage, and MK Ultra?! Adam's definitely an OG!!! Great job.

[@edwardralston1517]

This was an excellent show. I didn't hear any mention of the fact that he's the founder of T.H.Sseeds and has created pretty amazing strains like MKUltra... And he worked with Neville! !!!! Thanks Adam for bringing all the information from all your years compiled. 👍

[@davedennison7386]

Mk ultra is the bomb, I grew it a few years ago...I'm currently doing my 2nd run of TH seeds' "black apple hitchcock".. its a beautiful looking plant, smells divine and an amazing smoke..but I'm no expert and everyone thinks they have the prettiest girl at home..anyway great stuff as usual Chris, I love your analytical style...

[@marcosrotllan]

Back apple has a very normal high. Thseeds best times were between 2008 and 2012. Since that its just another european bank that tries to survive due to its old reputation.

[@impulsivegardens5655]

Mr grow it check out roots organics dry amendments!! The “Terp Tea” line is amazing!!! I pair it with craft blend now but it’s such a fine powder that after 5 days of keeping the top moist they are broken down and feeding the plant. The craft blend is almost like my slow release to keep things rolling and plus they are just some amazing amendments as well

[@jhonwayne1003]

Can we please get a video on how to fill a reservoir. So damn confused on how to feed with all the water.

[@seppous]

THANK YOU CHRIS

[@stevemuller82muller65]

Really cool Adam mentioned Ed Rosenthal 😎🤙 His literature is what got me started many years ago (pre-internet) Keep up the great work Chris 🥳😎🤙

[@lancep9394]

Started with dwc and loved the tinkering and adjusting. The soil is such a pain in the butt. Out side and inside. It's so slow to react and over watering... I can grow one in stright water and water killed them in soil😂

[@joeborovina4769]

Nice and long ! perfect for a Sunday .TY!

[@jchastain789]

The fermentation fertilizer is extremely interesting. Need more info on that

[@jeremyjackson-lg2zx]

Loved this pod cast .

[@uncutbush]

Great guest Adams a wealth of growing information and a all around great dude !

[@nicholassolomonson8349]

I've done both and coco and grown in soil with nutes also. Organics is awesome but so is hydro. They both have a place depending on what your trying to achieve. If your trying to grow massive plants grow hydro. If you want great buds grow organic. Just not crazy of growth as hydro. I like to grow with both. I like coco too. 😂 If you want middle on between growth go with Coco. Be careful with hydro. Avoid root rot. You need a water chiller or bennies or keep it sterile or your plants will get root rot quick. Easiest fix is hydro guard to avoid it. There a cheaper version of hydroguard some ag southern shit but I forgot what it is called off the top of my head

[@tark3469]

Hells yea, been waiting on this episode.

[@Funhouse585]

Love all your videos got a question...are the supplement lights you advertised worth it?...... anyone run any testing or have experience before I get a couple for my grows......all ready have the cannatrol ordered because of your recommendation..... again great videos and keep em coming your hard work is much appreciated 🎉

[@vedacarmony5754]

Chris, lot of good info here. Your approach, like most KZbin growers, is from a decidedly ableist perspective. I am disabled and use living soil partly to avoid slogging stairs with heavy bags. Could you reach out to the disabled but growing community for their knowledge?

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Sounds like that would be a great episode with value to those who need it. Thanks for the suggestion 🌱

[@jasonseaward8506]

I agree, in every single video, I browse the comments section briefly and everytime there is always a comment from someone that is disabled in some form and still growing. Some ppl have said that hydroponics is easier because it's easier 2 move a hose than a bag of dirt

[@freedom_born]

Cool suggestion Veda. Is there anyone you'd recommend.

[@vedacarmony5754]

Actually, me. I'm an art school grad with years of mechanical design and fabrication experience. Grow tents, for instance, could be world's better.

[@freedom_born]

@@vedacarmony5754 Sounds doable. You'll have to think of a topic, elaborate on [said] topic, possibly have data to accommodate or confirm. Address nuances and indiscretions etc... The grow tent thingy I think we all have ideas for - I even talked to one fool that insisted "Tents Inside Tents" is the future. You get a few of them crackpots in the comment section. I'd likely assume disabled growers prob need a lot of things automated too, which isn't really affordable, considering how much equipment would need to be run.

[@camz1039]

Really enjoyed this one. It was all the more ironic since I was building a new system and chasing down drips while listening.

[@southernvtgrown]

✌🏼💚What ya building

[@camz1039]

@@southernvtgrown a new rdwc system using coolers so my chiller runs less.

[@budbroz6412]

Adam seems very very knowledgeable. I think you should get somebody on the show that has a lot of success with Hydro. Personally I feel like with organic versus Hydro there isn’t really any difference in flavor just how good you grew the flower is what it comes down to.

[@Saltyhousewife-]

I am biased I have only grown hydro and I love it. Buuut it’s probably because I grew a corals in a saltwater tank and it is so similar in transition that it is easier for me

[@vincentpcappello4512]

I would like to hang out and talk growing the green with Adam and Chris, both very knowledgeable people in my opinion.

[@slbgardens6931]

Such a dope guest to get 💪🏼

[@anthonyromano8565]

I had to break my bud up by hand before washing. It was so organically grown tight bud. But I can only smoke so much flower.

[@marlonsmith617]

Seems a bit opinionated, makes DWC/RDWC seem hard. Been doing both out the gate, no complaints, do your research before jumping in. Automation becomes essential and makes Hydro much more enjoyable. Athena having cardboard terps, don't think JungleBoys would be in so deep with them if the terps were garbage.

[@brodieanderson7694]

Hydro is far more cost effective IF your doing this long term. Your not buying soil over and over you have a lot more control and you can walk back mistakes easier than you can in soil

[@OttoDidactic]

@@brodieanderson7694 I agree. I do agree with him about inspecting them frequently though regardless of the type of system. One hermaphrodite plant can wreck an indoor grow and increase downtime during pollen cleanup

[@gnawbabygnaw]

What is DWC/RDWC

[@Thomas.V.-223]

​@@gnawbabygnawDWC is deep water culture and RDWC is recirculating deep water culture.

[@wrecpunder5873]

​@gnawbabygnaw dwc is deep water culture and rdwc is recurulating deep water culture

[@tark3469]

Chris that was a great episode, have him back for a part 2 about genetics. Next get Todd McCormick on the show. Good shit man!!

[@timothykramer1856]

Just bought his seeds NL#5 special $60 for 30 regular now need those genetic test

[@Crawdaddy1420]

Weed Should Taste Good! & Miles FPE were a game changer for me again 😂❤

[@k6meodmt564]

Ah hell yeah! Love this show!!!

[@zacharymoore8366]

Yo.South Portland Maine in the chat.where can I get one of those hoodies?🥦✨️Be High Be Confident 🔥🔥🔥

[@uncutbush]

Great interview

[@jessk4862]

D.w.c is the best

[@ponydong]

U cant beat the sun my friend, the result is significant to indoor ,but some people have bad weather ,buuuuuut the new viparspectra xs pros are the best dude the heat out put is perfect every thing stands up and responds fast ,

[@raydhyne5049]

Great info thank you! 🙏👍🍁🫵🪨

[@cclunes]

Great interview with Adam. He's always much better in interviews than he is surrounded by the madness that is his own show

[@timothykramer1856]

Tried watching his show (Mr Dunn’s)a couple times, and was just put off by it not a fan

[@citygonecountry150]

I been having a hell of a lot of issues in coco this grow i never had before and its all pointing toward root issues. Ph correct. Ec correct. In and out. Lights good. One day they look good. Next horrible. Then good again........ argh. I been doing this a while and never have i seen this. Makes me wsnt to go back to organic.

[@Crawdaddy1420]

I somehow got the MK ultra in North Carolina from Adam. One of the strains that change the game for me. I also love to watch him and Miles chat it up CrawDaddy.

[@Crawdaddy1420]

Around 30 years myself! Time flys when youre having fun!

[@bradhon9825]

All is well started with hydro when I was 21. I love soul

[@tomdankz]

coco can do it all and can be more forgiving to the new grower who may overwater.. i also believe density is genetics and enviornment. while yield is way better and faster indoor for hydroponics imo

[@mauricecalliss1303]

Great talk wow .

[@live2ride844]

Bud density is almost purely genetics from my experience

[@krazykillar4794]

This is one of my favourite episodes. I cant believe mr Growit hasn't tried Dragon fly Earth Medicine. I first tried Dragonfly Earth medicine in 2018 and I love it , I recommend it to everyone. Fat flowers and brilliant black are my favourites . Be careful though, use sparingly and start with 50% of recommend amounts. My first batch messed up bad .The microbes went crazy and the pH started fluctuating. Not only that the ec was off the charts . You can add it to your soil as a amendment and it works great as a top dressing . The list of ingredients in fat flowers and brilliant black will definitely impress. It comes loaded with microbes .

[@DecayingReality]

Using front row I spend $13.80 per run on fertilizer.

[@jaybarker3718]

Being around grows for 10+ yrs, ive seen too many times that soil equals bugs! Hydro has the possibility but it’s extremely low. RDWC for the win! Its not that hard.

[@mauricecalliss1303]

Wondering how organic hydro would turn out /biological bacterial hydro system (not sterilizing environment) algae the works? ??

[@413Stoner]

Wao Mr grow it i didn't know you used to live in Massachusetts i live in Springfield ma

[@tory464]

Good stuff, Thanks 💚👍

[@abundance40]

What does he mean by he can tell if you grow in coco or not? Like how can you tell?

[@mr.cloudshy7584]

This guy makes a lot of "interesting" claims...

[@HectorConCarne.]

You can't tell, and neither can the liars in the comment section claiming they can taste whether it was grown organically or synthetically.

[@JustaSpaceCowboy]

Since reading "living with soil" I slowly converted all to soil, you just can't beat nature in terms of quailty

[@briangoetz324]

Please have a part 2??

[@XsumerianX]

As a rabbid consumer, and as a indusrty professional, It is a huge prefrence of mine that what I smoke is grown in soil. The terpene profile is much better and the smoke is smoother. I can always tell when a strain was grown using hydro. It messes with the smell and flavor.

[@CARLHPMA]

​@neal cassady or a novice hydro gardener I bet its more difficult to achieve the same flavour with hydro unless you know what the plant need whereas organic makes feeding much easier as they only take up what they need provided you don't go way over the top with nutrients

[@XsumerianX]

@neal cassady i live and work in the indusrty in oregon. I am viciously passionate about this. We have some of the best in the country, if they cant do it right, id love to see who can.

[@metasamsara]

@@XsumerianX does azomite matter?

[@freedom_born]

@MetaSamsara ∞ Relative to what? Rock dusts take years to properly break down and actively keep working.

[@freedom_born]

@neal cassady Don't be too harsh, but yeah @Chris that's a common misconception and kinda invalid. Hydro can mos def compete with indoor soil/organic, esp when really dialled in, as other dude mentioned - it's when you stack hydro up against outdoor (anything), that's when there's a noticeable difference. *BUT, in saying that* ~ I'm sure if you're actively in the business, you should know that although certain hydro systems can't be run outdoor, aquaponics def can, and some aquaponic grows are by definition "organic" anyway That's why despite your contradiction (hydro vs soil/organic), anything properly grown outdoor will win 99.9% of the time anyway, whether it's organic, synthetic, aquaponics, coco etc... because the Sun is king.

[@live2ride844]

Hempy buckets, passive hydro 💪