Organic Transit ELF Camping trip Oct 2017

[@stationplaza4631]

I'm seriously starting to like the ELF and PEBLE a lot. Amazed at how versatile these vehicles are.

[@popeyegordon]

Man you sure take a lot of optional gear with you but you seem happy and this is proof of the versatility of sustainable designs.

[@betsyolsson-mackowski7682]

Sweet set up! I followed you here from Facebook. Would love to see a video of you using the ELF in the winter.

[@marianchadwick7489]

Wow! What a great video. I also like my comforts so showing the trailer and then your camp set up really had my attention. You really caught how having a shell makes rain fall a refreshing experience instead of stopping and waiting for the worst of it to pass. You have a lovely car port to pull right up to the door for unloading. It lets the house wife in me see how much space is needed for the doors to be wide open and still have room to walk around. Your bike door and windows look very nice. They seem so sturdy too. I was thinking something using velcro would come across as cheap but these bad boys are hinged and latch shut. All those raindrops on the windows would have fallen inside and then too the cold air is blocked. Little things add up to make such a difference for those of us up north. Showing a run up to the store or an over night in the tent really lets me see how the loss of a car is really the loss of cash blowing out a car tail pipe. If you have a snowblower just to get out of the drive way, you are going to keep one car for use in drifts and deep snow. You show that everyday is not a blizzard and these bikes have a place in winter. I am looking at how you hang up your helmet and keep a water bottle within reach towards the back. Is the camping pad on the dash to keep stuff from bouncing off? I can't tell what would fit up there and stay while underway. A guy in Canada uses a fan for foggy windows but he has a floor. Do you ever have fog freeze on the inside or need a rag just to see out? Thanks again.

[@popeyegordon]

Very few ELF owners wear helmets or want doors. Only in the very coldest weather would doors help but they also cause window fogging because we are exercising in a small space. I have 4 years of experience with the ELF as my only transportation. The ELF is by far the safest bike ever made, with 1000 sold and 5 million road miles logged we have recorded 17 car/ELF collisions with no driver injuries beyond bruising. A rag is a bad idea for plastic windows, they scratch. If we experience fogging we add a 12 volt fan which can also be turned to cool the driver on hot windless days.

[@JOEMAMA_06]

How long did it take you to write this ?!

[@raycycleit8311]

Nice vid. Great weather for a test run, to work out any kinks. Thank you for sharing.

[@Raykenn1]

I can't explain it but, adventures like this fascinate me.

[@normawingo5116]

It’s looks like u r loving your ELF, I’m so thinking about getting one of these.

[@videosforcatsanddogs214]

Check out the PEBL too it is similar, but better

[@normawingo5116]

@@videosforcatsanddogs214 thank you, I think elf went out of business as well.

[@videosforcatsanddogs214]

@@normawingo5116 The iris e-trike is also a very good alternative, but you may have to wait a few months for delivery.

[@normawingo5116]

@@videosforcatsanddogs214 omg, thanks for showing me Iris, what a beauty!

[@southpadreq7317]

Have you considered using Rain-X on the front windshield so you can see better. Worked wonders for us when we travel by car.

[@brianduncan2149]

Yes I have used rain-x it does help

[@robcotter5474]

Amazing! Like car camping without the car.

[@zurubandrews8220]

Hi man , I really loved watching your video, I like your tent too I have one myself I live in Australia in a tent , I watched your latest video of you and your dog's nice pups.

[@JOEMAMA_06]

Wait, if you live in a tent then how do you have internet access? Also, what happens when it rains, does it get all wet with you inside it?

[@galipsarcicek6058]

Fiyat nekar

[@zurubandrews8220]

@@JOEMAMA_06 sorry for the very late reply, I watch KZbin on my phone and I don't get wet when it rains because my tent is a 6x4 metre canvas tarp with sand bags filled with sand that make walls and i also have a stone fire place in the middle.

[@zurubandrews8220]

@@galipsarcicek6058 i don't understand?

[@mariehuynh]

Perfect, I'm thinking of buying one and this answered a bunch of my questions.

[@tarstarkusz]

I think the PEBL is better for rain. It's completely enclosed including on the bottom so that no water is splashing up on you and there is no danger if your feet slip off the pedals. They have an option for a 64 amp hour battery.

[@brianduncan2149]

I have several 20 AH batteries for long trips. I do like the PEBEL floor and snap roll down windows and doors. I would like to test rise a PEBEL and compare the difference.

[@jeorlieedang2928]

@@brianduncan2149 I'll wait for this.. 😁

[@popeyegordon]

I use full foot platform pedals for my ELF, very comfortable with anything from barefoot to work boots and they have substantial heel cups. Contacting the road surface with your foot while moving is definitely not going to mean an injury every time, a smooth road can't grab your foot easily. All the injury risk takes place only when your ankle is backed up against the wishbone frame while it encounters some rough patch in the road that could grab it and still, the worst thing that might happen is your shoe getting pulled off. I have no problems with rain, my elbows get wet, so what. Rain falls down, not up so the open floor is a great way to keep vehicle weight down and get maximum ventilation in the rain. Because my ELF weighs 70 pounds less it does great with a 17 AH battery which is good for 25 miles with no pedaling. In my 5th year now I still have never run a battery down to shutoff thanks to the great free solar panel power.

[@amphidory7600]

super cool. love the tall tent and info on the tent brand a model. as fro riding in the rain does any water splash up from the open floor?

[@gliderrider]

That video was so dang cool! If I bought one of those, my wife would make me live in it. Hmmmm...

[@phwualoha1]

I notice the Elfs have no floor covering. Do you get splashed on from the wheels and from the wind draft?

[@thepostofficeprince8819]

I’m sure

[@sweetgothfromhell]

this looks like so much fun...

[@popeyegordon]

ELF = Electric, Light and Fun.

[@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587]

@@popeyegordon hell yeah :)

[@adrianofacioli]

Amazing!

[@georgeodajungle7082]

I'd like to know what a good average speed is just out on the open road if I'm going to be out there for days how many miles can I expect to accumulate on a daily basis? Also that camping was some serious roughin' it, huh? Lol! Just kidding great setup!

[@danielwood719]

What is the big solar panel for? Are you charging as you go? Do you ever get sick of Bob Seeger? Have you ever considered doing a coast to coast trip to raise awareness of solar power?

[@damwaterthomas1980]

I want to hear Hollywood hills by bob Sager and power to my Elf bike. As I am ready to hit a elk, as Hollywood hills is playing in the background. Yes go 50 miles an hour with a 4 stroke engine and to bad Home Improvement isn't on anymore. Imagine Tim making it happen on a episode and saying more power and that would be awesome as a concept for a episode of Home Improvement.

[@dsonnek7781]

FYI, rainx works great on plastic winds as well, use it on my side by side, much better visibility.

[@PinoyCyclist]

Watching from the Philippines! Have you ever considered joining The Sun Trip, the annual long-distance race from Lyon, France to Guangzhou, China on solar-powered e-bikes?

[@brianduncan2149]

I have considered entering the sun-trip and I do follow the sun-trip every year. You need time and money to do it. I do like to see all the different designs and like to see how people from around the world come together for the sun-trip race. I'm not a fan of riding on roads with trucks and cars, it just dangerous. In the USA we are connecting bicycle trails together across the USA. This is safe and something that I really like. This year summer I will ride the 800 mile long empire state bicycle trail that crosses New York State. Google Empire Stater bicycle trail and rail trails in the USA.

[@PinoyCyclist]

@@brianduncan2149: Yes, I've watched vlogs before about the Empire State Bicycle Trail. Good luck on your plan and more power to you!

[@lillly5349]

Están a la venta?

[@adrianofacioli]

Awesome!

[@AnimeAndrew1983]

Does the ELF came with a radio or do you used your phone to listen to music ?

[@karenqueen4706]

how much did it cost?

[@KHwellness]

Hi I live in your area, near Lower Huron Metro Park and have been checking out the technology of the ebikes with cabs around them like the ELF and PEBL. but don't know anyone local who has one to try it out before I buy. But also would like to know someone local to ride with once in awhile. You seem like a cool guy. I am actually considering the PEBL due to more enclosure options from the elements.

[@brianduncan2149]

I doing some upgrades on my elf this week. Once the mud clears in 2 weeks or so, your welcome to come ride my elf. I have drove a pebel, I can say neither are perfect. As you could imagine, the more you add the more car like they become....the heaver and slower they go. I have a few e-bikes too.

[@KHwellness]

@@brianduncan2149 I appreciate it. I am not worried about waiting. Just really wanted to make contact. Can I ask what kind of upgrades? Or are you saving that info for a new video? 😆

[@brianduncan2149]

I'm upgrading the motor to a 2000 watt motor for better hill climbing. It will also increase the speed from 22mph to 32mph (speed isn't the intent) Moving the electronics and enclosure to a plastic enclosure mounted in the cab for easy access. Add a 2 port battery cable so I can plug in 48vdc 20 AH batteries. In the past I upgraded the motor and controller.

[@KHwellness]

@@brianduncan2149 sounds cool. I am aware that the pebl has a switch from 750 to like 1500 to climb hills but they say that you have to stop completely in order to flip the switch? Somehow this doesn't seem practical to have to stop. Hey I am all for freedom of movement, and not much of a friend to extortion by the legal mafia commonly referred to as government. As long as you can travel safely, without hurting others, I don't see a problem, personally with a faster motor for assistance. Don't let me stop ya. But ya might want to learn about your right to travel and the legalese trap that is created by revenue hungry groups of people through word magic double speak. Did you do your own trailer hitch? That seems very handy to have. But like you said, the more you add the heavier it gets. You almost need more power to make up for the weight I would think.

[@brianduncan2149]

I designed a trailer hitch /pannier rack. Like a car my car can hit 100MPH where I drive 70 on the highway. Im not a fan of the European low watt motor laws and the 20MPH U.S laws. I have the power and can use it when needed. I usually cruise at 18MPH

[@clayguinard3651]

You going to do more videos like this, as this is cool as hell... Where do you live you know like I'm up here in the Northeast Maine

[@brianduncan2149]

I will do a lot more videos in the summer. I have pop-up camper that I made that I now use. So I will do a lot of rails to trails in Michigan this summer.

[@ianwild66]

Great video and bike. Did you build the trailer? Did you ever use the bike in winter and does it come with optional windscreen wipers?

[@brianduncan2149]

Yes I built a trailer. I built a pop up camber and use that since its easy to set up. For winter I sewed up fabric doors. I will make a video this summer of the new set up and post it to youtube

[@ianwild66]

@@brianduncan2149 Thanks for the info. I look forward to seeing the new set up.

[@amyblack9251]

Don’t you have windshield wipers?

[@amyblack9251]

And that’s a lot of solar for tent camping!

[@popeyegordon]

Wipers ruin plastic windshields. We wax it with carnauba wax to get the rain to run off better. Rain-x does not work on plastic.

[@JOEMAMA_06]

I'm surprised you didn't get copyrighted for the music you had playing on the road

[@kathyfann]

What about your shoes and socks from peddling

[@Simcore999]

I wish they had a way to transform the inside of a leaf into a pop-Out tent!

[@jeorlieedang2928]

too noisy... does it have a shock absorber or spring? I love the design simple but perfect for rainy days.

[@brianduncan2149]

It is noisy....I just turn up the music. It dosent have a shock in the rear. It dose have solid rubbed dampers on the front tires. I added a cushion on the seat to absorb the bumps.

[@popeyegordon]

jeorlie - It is quiet on smooth roads. Small video phones don't have accurate microphones that record the noise level correctly. The design uses a quiet gearless motor. The new competing vehicle called the PEBL is MUCH more noisy, its motor's gears scream. We upgrade to 3 inch tires for a smoother less bumpy ride.

[@JOEMAMA_06]

You can get the elf with springs if you oppt for it from the factory or you could possibly install them yourself

[@kathyfann]

Looks nice

[@kathyfann]

That’s amazing good for You

[@m9078jk3]

I see all your solar panels (a lot of them). Do you use them to charge up extra batteries for the ELF or what do you use them for if otherwise? That's quite a setup with all that gear.

[@brianduncan2149]

I used 4 extra batteries with the 4 solar panels. The intent of the video is to show you can camp with everything you could take car camping. I now only use 2 solar panels on that trailer. I also conduct light regular bicycle touring with a 3 pound tent.

[@popeyegordon]

Did you remove your doors for the summer weather?

[@brianduncan2149]

Yes, the doors come off easily. I only use the doors when its cold and raining. There not used during the summer

[@SandiShila]

more "riding elf in the middle of hard rain" video please

[@Rookiesteam]

just great.. I love the video, peddaling in the middle of the rain, camping.. Awesome

[@snoopysn1013]

did not know that came with windows, only seen the half doors

[@abbaby555]

awesome adventure

[@juellzzdrizzy]

2:45 no wipers?

[@JOEMAMA_06]

The elf from what I understand doesn't come with wipers because it wouldn't do either the wiper or the plastic window any good you could possibly install one your self but you could do harm to the aforementioned plastic window and it will most likely drain the battery down faster resulting in less range

[@jameshinkle7109]

where did you get the windows for the door

[@brianduncan2149]

The windows are plexiglass from home depot. You use cardboard pressed up against the elf and trace it on a big sheet of cardboard and cut it out. Then you have a template of cardboard to use on a sheet of plexiglass.

[@jameshinkle7109]

@@brianduncan2149 Thank You

[@tyraikaika]

Thanks for sharing 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@BikeTall]

Very cool setup. Does that solar panel you’re towing power the battery in addition to the solar panel on the roof? Or do you use it to charge your camping gear & electronics? I was planning a cross country trip on a regular ebike towing a trailer with a solar panel...but then I saw the ELF & PEBL and was like...hmmm 🤔 That looks interesting! But i just read that the company that makes the ELF went bankrupt. So i guess if i do go for one of these for my cross country trip, it’d be the PEBL.

[@brianduncan2149]

you can use the solar panel to charge your phone / laptop...really any accessory. I have a smaller trailer very light weight made by cycle tote in Arizona with 2 each 150 watt panels. I have a lot of other bikes and trikes I don't have videos for. Having a trike causes a lot of problems when crossing country. I crossed 1/2 the u.s on the southern route with a conventional touring bike . 2 wheels is the best way, theres just no room for a trike in many areas. The elf / pebble are good for local adventures 60 miles or so. if trails for rails ever links there network across the us....then a elf or pebble would be awesome. Check out another video. Search dog e-bike camping, you will see a cargo solar bike I have

[@BikeTall]

brian duncan cool thanks! Yeah, i agree. Trikes are interesting comfort wise...but not the most road friendly in some areas. I follow a dude named Matt who is traveling around the world on a trike, and it looks pretty sketchy in some parts. Plus repairs are more of a pain as well as transporting it by plane. I’d like to try it someday, but think I’ll stick with 2 wheels for now. Less hassle.

[@johntrevy1]

These need to be mass produced. Save our planet and get fit at the same time. We need to slow down as a species.

[@elrickking9293]

What happen if you run out of gasoline oh wait...

[@lucianomanea1610]

Interessante.

[@chistinekamler210]

that dud your strang of doing this

[@popeyegordon]

Burning fossil fuels when we know it is wrong is much more strange.

[@yorusuyasoul69420]

I wish

[@kihahbot3322]

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[@hakeemshabazz3207]

Wipers

[@JaleelJohanson62]

The windshield isn't auto glass and would be all scratched up in no time flat with wipers.

[@hakeemshabazz3207]

JaleelJohanson62 true.🖒

[@popeyegordon]

We use carnauba wax on the windshield. Rain does not pile up the way it does on car windshields at high speed.

[@SnapchatShortVids]

I want to turn my bike Into a car like yours. I know it's not a car but close enough