Origin of Mass - Search for the Higgs

[@omgtkseth]

Scientists say the higgs should be found this year, at least the higgs as predicted by the standard model. They are looking in mass ranges predicted by the standard model to contain the higgs. If the specific predicted range doesnt give the higgs, it will prove the standard model is faulty as it is, and will need to be reformulated. If it is found, well, known particle physics will be virtually complete...

[@souldude81]

@Xerosigma To my understanding a photon has no interaction with the Higg's field. Hence it has no mass. It's the drag the Higgs field has on the particle that gives certain particles their mass. It's called rest mass.

[@MrKorrazonCold]

Having found that the Hubble Constant H, or Hubble distance R= c/H, is determinds the size of electrons and other relationships of the Universe, it is clear that the Hubble constant plays a more fundamental role than just an explanation of an apparent expansion of space. Consider a single wave-center (a particle) Its in-waves are formed by a Huygen's combination of wave's from other wave-centers in the Universe Contributing less and less to each other's in-wave amplitude with increasing distance

[@21mvptim]

So exciting to see us uncover such an incredible secret of the universe and the technology we created to find it is breath taking. It should be an interesting and exciting next couple of decades and I'm glad to have been born when I was so that I be a part of all of it!

[@TheseApyh]

At 2:18, they said ," A particle with mass like quark, interacts with the Higgs field which slows it down....." Here they started off with a particle WITH MASS which gains mass..... how does that really explain, "What mass is? or how is it formed?" (or maybe this explanation is a simplified version hence little confusing in words..)

[@wreynolds1995]

@Woot831 The boson is not the field itself. The field has a non-zero value everywhere in spacetime (it didn't used to - in the early universe all particles were massless). The particles are the fluctuations in that field. It's the exact equivalent of a photon in an electromagnetic field (the electromagnetic field permeates the universe in the same way; magnetism occurs because of fluctuations in that field). Energy is needed to get the field to oscillate to produce the boson. Thus, the LHC.

[@neilperrin6409]

My next question would be, if we did discover the Higgs-boson is, why do certain particles like the top quark interact with the Higgs field but others, like photons or gluons, do not?

[@khe3]

@SkiPraetor, same thing. I don't understand what makes photons go with less friction trough the field than quarks.

[@UrukEngineer]

But, as I (kinda) understand it, elementary particles go in/out of existence also. Yet we can measure them readily. Other bosons (force carrier particles) are measurable.

[@nuclear5641]

Please clarify, anyone. This video explains that the Higgs field slows down a moving particle and converts part of its kinetic energy into its mass. Why, then, do stationary objects without any kinetic energy at all have mass? Or is this lack of kinetic energy in the "stationary" object just illusionary given that everything in the universe is in constant motion (with the expansion of the universe and everything)?

[@omgtkseth]

@alaskamoondancer How do you think this framework connects? Do you think there are nodes or does it work more like a fluid? And what could account for it? Would it depend on electrons? On waves and frequencies? On light?

[@dekippiesip]

@thisismyname007 That particle seems to have turned up now. It was good in hiding though.

[@abrahamreviews]

at 2:01 he says that there is a Higgs field that permeates all parts of the universe. He also says that particles with no mass like the photon don't interact with the Higgs field at all and that particles with mass do. He was supposed to have said: particles that are said to have no mass DO NOT interact with the Higgs field..which is WHY they have no mass. Because if the quark already had mass then it would have no need to go through the field to HAVE its mass.(that's how I understood this vid)

[@omgtkseth]

@alaskamoondancer But we can detect mental processes through neurological scans. We can detect brain activity. We dont get data from 'perception' per se but we do have a good idea when something's brain is working. The higgs doesnt have qualitative dimensions to it that can relate to perception, does it? As far as I know the higgs mechanism and effect could be detected like brain activity, and not like perception.

[@SkiPraetor]

@amanvds, I've been wondering the same thing! If its the interaction that gives mass, what is it about the interaction that is special? Swirling paparazzi around a famous person is an okay start but every description I've seen thus far continues to fall short.

[@UrukEngineer]

What I don't understand is why there aren't Higgs Bosons everywhere. Why does it take a proton collision to generate the energy that turns into the zoo of particles? If the Higgs field is everywhere, so must be the Higgs Boson. So why can we just detect those?

[@serp96pres]

@nutCaseBUTTERFLY how? what if the quantum field exsists, or are we falling forever through nothing?

[@MsJohnnythunder]

What is a neutrino? What is the Tau? The Z? The W? It's nice to know they exist but what are they? Anyone got an easy-to-understand answer or a link to a good video?

[@dekippiesip]

I wander if it could be possible that the higgs field isn't isotropic. That would be really strange, cause than mass would be dependent on the position within the universe.

[@hartistry1957]

The mass we are experiencing is a result of the quantum principle of observation; when mass is recorded, it forms by a rule of matrix-field resistance. When our senses experience specific reactions by recording, or observing, we commit the process of organizing subatomic particles in their 'preset' coordinates relative to matrix-field they reside in; thereby 'snapping' the 'parts' of "reality" together, to form a "logical", or "Human" experience that is familiar because we are designed for this

[@gravelocity]

Best explanation I have heard so far. I feel like I can understand at least a little now.

[@XTheDentist]

What about the increasing distance between galaxies

[@amramjose]

the "Higgs field" is somewhat reminiscent of the old Aether theory (some believe it exists and even call it the EPOLA for electron-positron lattice). This week it was announced the Higgs does not exist. Science failures are really not, this open up other doors for other possibilities and eliminates unproven theories, give rise to new ones...

[@6969SpAcE6969]

- What you percieve here is just down to perception, and a perception comes from some 'thing' which has no definite structure as it's always variating (expanding), so doesn't this show you that theres actually limitless perspectives to something? For example, imagine if it wasn't for the boundary of your body at the size it's at now, and you could shrink as small or big as you wanted to, then the perspective of the size of the 'thing' would be indefinite.

[@amanvds]

One thing I wanna know.you said at 2:08 that particle's like photon's with "NO MASS" do not interact with higg's field,and particle's like Quark's "WHICH HAS MASS" interact with higg's field and there K.E get's converted into MASS .. I mean what the heck .. If Quark's already has mass then what's the need to convert it's K.E into Mass.This is a wrong explanation of Higg's bosons.Quark's do not have mass before interacting with higg's field.It's the higg's field that causes Quark's to OBTAIN MASS

[@souldude81]

@amramjose funny that they would say that when the experiment at CERN hasn't even reached the capacity to make a Higgs Boson. Are you sure that's what the scientist said?

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

this doesn't mean Einstein was wrong, Einstein was right, he just used a specific set of term to explain his results, all of Einstein's equations are very precise and prooven, time does seem to slow, but String theory might suggest that the slowing of time can also be though of as just a local density change in a field wich affect how all particles behave in a local area, so maybe instead of space-time beding, it's a field that bends.

[@omgtkseth]

@alaskamoondancer You say that it doesnt matter where, say, the stars came from, because we and the stars are the same particles. Is that what you are saying?

[@thedemonlord8685]

why do you use two normal protons and not a proton and antiproton

[@6969SpAcE6969]

What we define is all down to the boundary of our own perceptional space. You can make shit as limitlessly as complex as you like, or keep it really simple. Get it?

[@pooooooooooops]

i cant hear a word. why is this so quiet?

[@beastinblack4055]

@Watch4 Harmonics?

[@dlc1st]

You lost me at "hello", or was it "hey there", or maybe "welcome"? I really don't have a clue because I couldn't hear the audio. AUDIO MATTERS! If you have something to say, make sure you set the audio levels so that you can be heard! Maybe you had something interesting to say, but I'm only going to put forth the same effort you showed in providing good audio, which is little to none.

[@XTheDentist]

Also, the point of my comment was this: you say the big bang never happened and go on to describe an alternative explanation for the redshift, and thats fine but thats NOT the only evidence that supports the big bang. Thats why I mentioned the expanding space between galaxies. You say its not due to a magical dark energy, again thats fine but then how do you explain it? Or are prepared to say that space is NOT expanding? Have they made an observational error?

[@Dillinger86]

I have read many many books on Physics and this video really explains it well. Great Narration BTW.

[@XTheDentist]

I guess my question then should be: do you believe the universe is expanding? Do you think there's good evidence to suggest there's an expansion? Is there any dispute about this in the scientific community? Lets assume for the sake of argument that astronomical observation regarding the expansion is correct, how should we interpret this expansion other than the obvious which says that something that gets bigger into the future must have been smaller in the past?

[@nuclear5641]

@RumuhAlg Weight and mass are different measures. Mass is constant, weight depends on gravity. So an object in space may not weigh anything due to absence of gravity, but it always has mass. But I think the problem of stationary objects was answered by "MentToBeEzy". Even stationary objects are made up of atoms, which are made up of subatomic particles that all have mass because they are all in constant motion. The collective mass of all these atoms = mass of the "stationary" object.

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

don't confuse rest mass with relativistic mass , photons do not have rest mass, but they can increase the rest mass of an object since they have energy. in fact, the rest mass of an object is just the sum of the kinetic energy of it's particles. just like the rest mass of a quark is 99% the kinetic energy of massless gluons

[@XTheDentist]

Well the nice thing about science is its not based on the most plausible explanation, its based on experiment. As beautiful as string theory is mathematically, it makes NO testable predictions. I'm not sure what your describing, what area of research it points to but if it doesnt make any predictions or we have no way of performing experiments to verify certain aspects of it then what is it really saying? You can think something is ridiculous all you want but current observation is all we have

[@zer0b0t]

14 March 2013.

[@HMotam-dn6by]

Ur a fucking legend.

[@neilperrin6409]

@MrItchyElbow Heh, well, first I think we need to definitely confirm that this Higgs-boson exists, THEN we can maybe start to answer these other questions.

[@420SlowJ]

@johnny71UK its just the name they gave to the explosion

[@alaskamoondancer]

electromagnetic waves connect to each other and share common lay lines. Waves and frequencies??? it's hard to say what form or pattern things become to solidify from undetectable to the known substance we can actually measure.there is something to say about wave interference or resonance. Some sort of plasmic field lines of energy or information holding together a cosmic flux or fixed state. Well, kind of fixed. Everything seems to have constant movement and change and at the same time sameness.

[@alaskamoondancer]

@RumuhAlg gravity is like static cling. all mass has it and the denser one wins. not the ego but the thing

[@coilinboylanjeritslev3656]

Please subtitles. I'm deaf, then it will be a great help if subtitling. Thank you.

[@a_vyce6580]

Hello! Do you still need a transcription of the video?

[@6969SpAcE6969]

What confuses me, is all this names are given to 'things' like a neutrino, tau, whatever, however, what are those 'things'? You can only recognise anything by seeing them contrast with some other 'thing'. But on their own, with nothing but nothing as a contrast, what are they? Now when you picture that, you'll have just your conscious space and this 'thing' in nothingness. -

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

Einstein's explanation that space bends cannot be used in quantum mechanics the two theories are not compatible since they explain the world at different scales. String theory is an attempt at uniting the two theories, by basicly saying that Einstein's bent space is just another field that can guide how particles move through it , more to the point, Einstein's bent space-time is actually a field of Gravitons, these particles dictate how massive particles move through space.

[@MrKorrazonCold]

Space a division of solidity into entropy second law thermodynamics but also 4pi R2= a multiplication of Volume at expense of gravitational potential. Greater the energy or mass the greater the inward absorption density(compression)+ and -outward emission density (expansion) or acceleration now of electromagnetic waves the greater is amount of inward spherical wave-fronts compressing wave-amplitude the shorter oscillating wavelengths increasing mass as like-charged particles repel exponentially!

[@MrKorrazonCold]

"Overlapping wave's from all particles in the universe combine their intensities to form the wave-medium density (virtual pair's or space) at each point of space." "The total amplitude of overlapping particle wave's at every point always seeks a minimum, as trillions of wave's cancel, the sum of opposite vectors is always zero, this is the reason for the symmetry or conservation laws in physics or why, at the speed of C, time and space are zero due to length contraction and time dilation."

[@tennoheika94]

@MrItchyElbow I was just pointing out a funny fact, relax man. Do you interrogate all your friends like that when they mention that its a nice weather?

[@str3123]

@saleh you're not alone!

[@MrKorrazonCold]

Everything is two opposing fibonacci vorticies! Only difference between solids, liquids, gases and plasma is Volume! Sinusiodal spherical waves of periodic motion forms Einstein's curvature of spacetime! Big bang's 360, 24/7. Mass-field vector +Mu of the universe acting upon accelerating mass +/-m from a distance radius, forming everything out of the locational spherical inward logarithmic absorption density and outward exponential emission density now or acceleration of electromagnetic waves!!!

[@jcmundy]

7 Tara electron collision conclusion is incorrect The partial douse not collide with the combined velocity's because the mass is doubled....Basic physics....Jc

[@alaskamoondancer]

metal and magnets in motion makes electricity and particles in motion at high speeds interacts with the foundational polarities that can never be shielded or escaped from. The particles will always be apart of everything else and that connection can not be broken. You are making your own games and breaking the rules, Infinite probability means infinite everything. Search for everything and find more and more and more and search some more. We will never get to the finish because it did not start

[@LoneRussianS]

just read "matter creation" in wikipedia. There is light, which is pure quantum energy and proton-positron pairs generated by it, whose do have mass already, therefore - matter. thenn look to the Genesys given for "reversed engineering".

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

the scalar higgs field doesn't contain higgs particles, a particle is an excitation of a field, in order to produce a real higgs particle, you need to excite the field with enough energy to meet it's requirement. another way of looking at is, is saying the higgs field is made up of "virtual" higgs particles, and these virtual particles need to borrow energy in order to exist. this video uses a VERY lazy explanation, the higgs field does NOT slow down particles...it's just easier to explain

[@MrKorrazonCold]

The Hubble distance H is the maximum finite distance we are able to observe an infinite Universe. The Big bang never happened The redshift with distance is a consequence of the limited range of overlapping spherical in+/-out wave's within every observable spherical region of the Universe. A wave-chain reaction of light, time and space Wave-center's contributing less to each other's in-wave amplitude with increasing distance, less wave interaction, less energy exchange and doppler causes redshift

[@Woot831]

OK, someone explain this to me; if the Higg's field is made up of a matrix (which appears to be locked; all the particles are in a fixed structure, as shown) of Higg'ss partices, and interaction with said field is what creates mass...where does the *Higg's Boson* get its mass?! That doesn't make any sense; a locked matrix can't interact with itself, yet scientists *know* this thing is several times the mass of a proton. *Sigh* I know the visualization is wrong, but I don't see a different one.

[@bozilla9975]

You have to know what get bent by gravity? The particle itself? Or the space-time fabric? I suppose Einstein rekon it's the latter. So mass less particle gets attracted by gravity is valid.

[@alaskamoondancer]

Everything seems as a magic eye picture. look at the totality of everything and pick out points of reference till you see this time, place, feeling, reality then you manifest.

[@souldude81]

@Xerosigma The Higgs field is an unproven theory. If scientist can find the Higgs Boson, then they will know the origin of mass.

[@samuelj5890]

cheers Phil

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

a photon does not have rest mass, it has relativistic mass becuase it has energy. for example, 99% of the mass of a proton, is actually just he kinetic energy of the massless gluons, you ask yourself "how could massless particles create mass" , it's energy, kinetic energy is equivalent to mass when a particle is "weighted" , just like when a body absorbs heat, it gets heavier, heat is just infrared radiation (photons)

[@MrKorrazonCold]

Light receding from stars and dividual stars of the stellar system perpetually passing out into the infinite ocean of space, never to return, and without ever coming into contact with objects of nature! That kind of tiny big bang material universe would be destined to become gradually but systematically impoverished, and systems would never evolve perpetually. However all the galaxies we can see are perpetual, so therefore must have same kind of space-density as galaxies in our neighbourhood.

[@souldude81]

Phil I don't like your explanation on the Higg's field. You make it sound like particles have mass apart from the field itself. If the theory is correct, then this sentiment is not true. It's the Higg's field that gives particles their mass. It is actually the quantification of interaction with the Higgs Boson that determines mass. The more interaction a particle has with the Higgs Boson the more mass it will have.

[@MrKorrazonCold]

Galaxies are not flying away from each other at a million miles an hour from a magical dark energy. Thats ridiculous.

[@alaskamoondancer]

@omgtkseth I have no idea how patterns can be detected,I only know what I have experienced thru moments of forgotten greatness.shamans have described connections to animate and inanimate objects.understandings of information from places that put me in awe.I now forever explore information to find similar experiences to make sense of it.This world we exist seems a framework of conscious energy manifesting itself.vortexes of swirlwinds from the small to the big. see one you see them all

[@MrKorrazonCold]

Firmilab discovered quanta such as mesons switching 3 trillion times per second from matter to antimatter! Experiments show how conversion of matter into energy through its antmatter brings about gamma rays with exact opposite momentum! Magnetic fields always enfolding+/-unfolding space-time at right-angles and "where the two waves meet, creates the wobbly particle effect." This forms a spiral as like charged wave-centers repel becoming equally spaced along the curvature of spacetime, or E=mass!

[@iofish__]

Energy is affected by gravity as well as mass though :)

[@divya4414]

i have some similar beliefs.

[@MighMoS]

"The photon is currently understood to be strictly massless." ~ Wikipedia after an easy Google search for "mass of a photon".

[@myRobotsGoneBazerk]

I'm addicted2science too... m1 - Higgs Boson and the Strange Charm

[@Woot831]

@wreynolds1995 Well thanks for the explanation, but I'm still sceptical about this theory. Oh well...I believe a famous man once said "Anyone who claims to understand quantum physics...does not."

[@raydredX]

@thisismyname007 Beauty's a hint of being correct. Lack of beauty in correct theories incompleteness hints. And physicists are already looking for Higg-less explanations.

[@21mvptim]

agreed!

[@chessfrog42]

this video made me hungry

[@Iberedmas]

Interesting but no cigar!!

[@MrKorrazonCold]

Everything is Fibonacci thus two opposing vorticies!, only difference between solids, liquids, gases and plasma is Volume! Mass plasma-field vector +Mu of the universe acting upon accelerating mass +/-m from s distance radius! Greater the energy or mass the greater amount of inward spherical waves compressing the wave-amplitude the shorter the oscillating wavelengths just as energy of an incoming Tsunami increases the inward absorption density compressing mass the greater the accelerating waves

[@tennoheika94]

@MrItchyElbow It wasn't technically even a joke, I was just pointing out that the person which is narrating this video has a talking voice of a stereotypical homosexual. If he would have talked like a stereotypical black man with a gangster voice, I would have pointed that out too. If he would have talked like an stereotypical arab, I would have pointed that out too. And yes, that is the point, stereotypical homosexuals ARE funny.

[@RODERICKMOLASAR]

Pretty!

[@Woot831]

@HalfEatenDimSim -_- care to explain...

[@alaskamoondancer]

@hartistry1957 yes, we are reality reorginizers. we take the true stuff and creatively transform it to fit the understandings we can handle. so everyone is right. kind of...

[@edwardml4907]

What if the HIGGS particles doesn´t exist, and in a way matter its just energy slowed down to a frecauncy of movement that we can measure, for example if we had a very powerful telescope an we look to a star that is millions of light years away, and look into a planet that orbit that star and see the planet in a away it is projecting whata happened there millions of years ago. So in a away that information came to us as energy but in reality is matter seen in another perspective.

[@XTheDentist]

What on earth are you talking about

[@alaskamoondancer]

@omgtkseth Well I have to say yes, some how everything is the same substance or enerchi or nothing potential or what ever it may be termed. If a experiment is disturbed by the experimenters perception then that sounds more like a dream then an actual substance or particles. Everything seems to be separated by energy quanta, frequency, interactions of consciousness to consciousness. perception somehow has as much substance as a higgs. hard to measure and all encompassing. everywhere

[@thisismyname007]

The Higgs Mechanism may be a beautiful theory but beauty doesn't make a theory right. Apparently Albert Einstien, when he was working on his General Theory of Relativity got hung up on a "beautiful theory" that wasn't right. Fortunately, he found the right theory and people say it's beautiful. The Higgs boson better turn up real soon or I'd say that physicists should work on a Higg-less explanation of mass.

[@alaskamoondancer]

@omgtkseth When we discuss the making of reality or how it all came about it is absurd because we are all one. Consciousness peering upon itself with a sort of amnesiac split personality is what civilization reduced me to. Now I write to all of my self to help me to never forget to remember. we are all part of the same patterns of creation spawning infinite dreams of possibilities. forever experiencing our true nature without end. Creative Transformations is the me particle.

[@alaskamoondancer]

or a beautiful bomb, or maybe some light. you may unleash creations might, or you can even make a stick of gum.

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

the double slit experiment is not about concioussness, unless you watch the terrible "what the bleep do we know" documentary, wich is in facy a crappy attempt at explaining how the observer effect works. the reason a wave collapses into a particle is NOT because your conciousness it there, it's because you had to hit the wave with a photon to detect it, in physics to observe means to detect , and detection involves light. don't buy into "conciousness" mumbo jump, it's just hard physics at work

[@alaskamoondancer]

@lnqusitor shock this world into existence. eternal cosmic like fire of swirlwinds. living energy, conscious space. hard to speak or type an understanding in this limited language. lucid dream while awake. Dreaming is feeling our way around this spiritual thought substance like sea of rippling light quanta

[@tennoheika94]

@MrItchyElbow No, I do not understand how that would make me look like a moron. I was pointing out that the narrator sounds like a stereotypical homosexual, nothing weird there. You're making this into a bigger mess than it is.

[@alaskamoondancer]

one explosion to start them all. One place before another. Does this exist without that?before time/space what do we face? will you find your god or your own grace. HOW can I see when the experience changes for me, like some sort of dream. This world is not what it seems. There is no proof that we exist, yet there is of something that we do consist. I feel real and I can think. What is this consciousness in water? Shapeshifter, H20 manifest like flesh. My image reacts with this continuous mesh.

[@rottierobb]

Yeah god did it. No we can move on without another thought. So much easier!

[@life42theuniverse]

I dislike these videos that call the photon massless because it does have mass else it could not be bent by a blackhole or so says my rational mind.

[@str3123]

anyway... 1year of research to tell us something we already know? 1year of research to produce a youtube documentary about the higgs boson and some 3d animations? Yet, nothing new discovered so far (and we're speaking about the most expensive accelerator in the planet). I followed live the opening of CERN, waiting from great news. Well, after this is just a stupid documentary which I can find even on wikipedia. Please, let us knows what we don't know, now what we already know!

[@paintballer9110]

E=mc^2

[@Wedneday-Child-of-Woe]

Well life in fantasy land is over. No Higgs Boson found, super symmetry; gone. Standard model; gone. Black holes, dark matter, dark energy; gone And finally Big Bang; gone. Hello non-linear universe. Hello plasma cosmology. Bye bye 30 years of meaningless theoretical math.

[@mahmoudyzadeh]

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends.

[@backhandable]

@johnny71UK Are you seriously using basic science to attempt to prove scientists wrong? Do you see the problem here :S

[@Vern3666]

The Higgs does not exist, so lets move on.