Original Fallout creator reacts to the TV show

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[@Kicks2608]

You know they did a good job when Cain aproves

[@CopeAndSeeth]

Nah, he sold out long ago. Wouldn't trust him with a dime 🗿 Jk, love mah boy Tim 😎

[@terriblefez]

The show's proponents all have incentives. Old heads aren't too happy but they're not loud.

[@turbofox4177]

@@CopeAndSeethwas about to throw hands for a second there

[@theonewhoshitposts9727]

To be fair Cain is pretty accepting of the newer fallout stuff compared to a lot of the fans there are some things he criticizes and doesn’t like about 4 but besides that from what I’ve seen he’s very accepting of the newer games and is very respectful when talking about them and from what I’ve heard him say he’s played all of Bethesda’s fallout games besides 76 as he’s not a big online gamer as he’s said in one of his videos, he was even inviting to the fallout show premiere which I think is awesome to see

[@billsnothere4499]

:')

[@Drabbo]

You can have the literal creator of the game praising the TV show but you’ll still get some hardcore Nerds crying about it.

[@VelikanVLK]

Yeah specially the New Vegas hardcore fans saying the other Fallouts are not real Fallouts

[@Jeffrey-vy8ms]

@@VelikanVLKYeah the virgins lol (most of which haven’t even played 1 and 2)

[@derrickallen8138]

​@VelikanVLK I've played them all and the only ones that feel of for me are 4 (very limited traits/perks and skill use) and 76 (being an MMO throws me off).

[@Bulbman123]

@@derrickallen8138 I think that's the general consensus of most "OG" Fallout fans, F4 "feeling off" is a good way to describe it, though still enjoying the game

[@derrickallen8138]

@Bulbman123 100%. the condensed perks/dialog, removal of skills/conversion to perks, hard tying perks/skills to S.PE.C.I.A.L made me feel like my build choices didn't matter as much to the game. One playthrough was enough. But I do often like to lose myself in the settlement building. Like to fully build out each settlement before going to the next.

[@BadgerOfTheSea]

The Fallout "feel" straddles the line of Silly and Depressing so well

[@movienerd202]

Nothing is better than getting the blessing of the creator.

[@amumuisalivedatcom8567]

Praise the sun

[@Kaptain_Scout]

Co creator

[@bobthedopeman7327]

People will still whine and claim to know better than him.

[@HobDavid]

​​@@bobthedopeman7327yea like chris avallone, the story writer for fallout 2 and nv who said it sucked?..

[@bobthedopeman7327]

@HobDavid contributed to the writing of New Vegas. Lol, he did not write the entire game

[@matteofaccin6636]

All the "silly" scenes feel like the most Fallout a tv show could ever be. The Enclave turret missing the fleeing scientist despite firing dozens of rounds, Maximus using the power armor without training, the Ghoul's gunslinging, all the conversations had an audible "Speech check: Succeded/Failed" to me when I watched. Incredible show

[@K-11609]

It really feels like actions you would read in the first 2 Fallout games. "The Enclave Turret lands critical shots....with 0 damage."

[@matteofaccin6636]

@@K-11609 EXACTLY. God I love characters missing at point-blank range four shots in a row, the old games never cease to be funny

[@SubieNinja]

in fallout 1 & 2 you didn't need power armor training to use it

[@LecherousLizard]

Lol, no. In 2D Fallouts the scientist would've been turned into meat paste. "The" Ghoul would've been killed in the first round of combat if he was shot at by a dozen of enemies. BoS in the show is the worst portrayal of BoS yet, including Maximus.

[@starhammer5247]

Fun fact: Power Armour Training only exists in Fallout 3 and New Vegas. In Fallout 1, you put it on immediately after getting it and it's described as if wearing it is like wearing a second skin. In Fallout 2, the exact same thing applies except you should be even less qualified as you're a tribal but you still put it on and master it immediately. In Fallout Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel, training also isn't required. Out of eight games, only two have training. Power Armour Training was only introduced to combat how common Power Armour was in 3 and it was a hold over in New Vegas (I still find it stupid how the NCR would rather tear out what made Power Armour Power Armour instead of just trying to figure out how it works, it's not Mjolnir).

[@dilly8758]

One of my favorite little details is Hank’s password for Cold Fusion being the release date of the original Fallout.

[@Bizz4r2m0ke]

I THOUGHT THATS WHT IT WAS

[@juleswinnfield3958]

Wait I didn’t notice that. Thats sick

[@someguycalledCh0wdah]

The Overseer sentencing Lucy to death.... by banishment is easily one of the funniest tv moments ever to me

[@glenmiller452]

With enough essentials for two weeks.

[@someguycalledCh0wdah]

@glenmiller452 But then you're on your own!

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

And we’ll obviously bring the supplies up to the surface for you

[@toomanyaccounts]

you forget the sword and beheading motion. who the hell would think they were being banished seeing that?

[@chief664]

Man I'm seeing a lot of people say all New Vegas fans hate this show. So im gonna go on record and say I'm a New Vegas fan it's my favorite fallout game, and I love the show.

[@JonathanRossRogers]

I like the show a lot. I've already watched the first season twice. Most of the people who don't like it seem to be reaching for reasons not to like it.

[@chief664]

@@JonathanRossRogers yeah it also seems to be the people who are sticklers about the endings and the story. I personally have always been more of a fan of the settings themselves in each game as apposed to how the story ends. I actually have trouble finishing Fallout games because I get too sucked into exploring and living in the world and I don't want it to end.

[@idipped2521]

@@chief664the fact that you couldn’t play after the end of new Vegas makes the stakes a bit higher, because things would be completely different in the wasteland

[@chief664]

@@idipped2521 yeah that's part of the reason why I struggled with ending the game. Cause i get to the point were I'm like "I should probably beat the game now" but then I'm like "but did I explore that area" and then It quickly devolves into "ooh piece of candy, ooh piece of candy" and the next thing you know I'm playing for another 100 hours.

[@idipped2521]

@@chief664 exactly, I’ve been playing new Vegas since about 2012 and I’m still finding new little tidbits. Can’t say the same for Skyrim or fallout 3

[@Ata.TeaGargler]

I can't wait until those posers who say the TV show doesn't feel like Fallout defend their stance when even the game series' creator said otherwise lol

[@rod9804]

The funniest part is that they use the creator himself to say how much of a disgrace the show is lmao

[@panzerfaust8452]

Oh, they'll just say that he is not a """"real"""" fan/creator. They'll do whatever it takes to make OG Fallouts and New Vegas look as bad as possible.

[@dreamshakejunya]

@@panzerfaust8452 lol New Vegas is almost universally beloved.

[@panzerfaust8452]

@@dreamshakejunya I know. What I'm saying is people that will absolutely tear you apart for liking any Bethesda Fallout and will tell everyone that New Vegas is THE game, THE Fallout, THE RPG, and if you like any Bethesda Fallout you should "grow up and get a correct opinion" give a game a pretty bad rep. It's not about game being universally beloved. It's about people being elitist and obnoxious to the point that I straight up tell people that watched the show and want to try out games "Start with 3, since it's pretty simplistic, think about playing 1, and 2, games are pretty old, but still good. Definitely play through New Vegas, DO NOT interact with it's community though."

[@karmehed]

I don't understand why there seems to be such a vitriol surrounding these games. I have played all of them except the BoS one since I didn't have a console. And my favorite is F2 but that is mainly cause I like that type of game play much more than the newer fps kind. I still think they are good enough Fallout games.

[@oliverwaite7963]

This show was honestly such a pleasant surprise. After so many garbage TV show and movie adaptations of beloved IP, it was really awesome to see Fallout’s adaptation carried out with so much effort and creative passion.

[@xBintu]

As well done as tlou

[@versaii5519]

i feel like a lot of adaptations have good been good in the last few years

[@AKT0B0S]

Agreed!

[@gamingandchess]

Halo, however begs to differ ​@@versaii5519

[@MNiall]

I'm still not over halo being so bad

[@djeliwright]

It literally felt like a long cutscene from the game weirdly it was a cool feeling

[@mangodango1733]

It was like the opposite of getting the Budokai Tenkaichi games but it's a total love letter and I'm here for it

[@chiefduu6657]

Thats exactly how it should feel! That means they nailed it🤌🏻🤌🏻

[@RegenerationOffical]

Because we don’t really get cutscenes, it offers a new dimension in the fallout world

[@queenieqt2033]

That was my feeling too. Played the games since i was 9

[@wxl2562]

Dang... imagine if they started doing that? Like, just have a really long, episode style cutscene of your customized character going on a post-gameplay, non-playable adventure, showing interactions and changes to the world based on your decisions throughout your playthrough. Circling back to a shot of your character going to their home or a specific place of significance (also based on your choices) and than loading the game back up right where the cutscene ends, with new stuff to do and explore now that the main story is over and you've gotten to see what kind of effect your actions have had on this new world you're about to re-experience.

[@Zodiezzz]

Cain says something that I think is really important on why the show works so well. A movie or TV show is a different medium and as such there are just some things from the game that do not translate to that medium. Walton Goggins says something kinda similar on KFC when he says that he didn't want to play the game cause he didn't want his judgement clouded by the want to map the game 1:1. I think that is super important and shows that the people making the show know what they are doing because they cut what they had to and kept what they could.

[@MrPicklerwoof]

The same applies to The Last of Us. I loved that televisual adaptation just as much as I loved TLOU1. But trying to reason with uber-fans who can't handle things being slightly different is a nightmare. Like Fallout, they got all the major themes spot on - plus they made a show that worked for non-gamers.

[@littlesebastian4389]

They got the tone perfect. It was also cool they had a good finale without blowing their load and leaving us wanting more yet closing a chapter.

[@nailonthewall]

This show single handledly save Bathesta sales on Fallout games recently

[@timurdos]

over a million of new players in Fallout76 LOL i can already see a trend of pairing a game with a show (live action or animated).

[@imposteramogus2167]

@@timurdosa pretty good idea if you actually get people who love the thing you are making into a show/movie

[@Skooskah]

One of my favourite Fallout feelings in the show was whenever Lucy was trying to convince another character of something, like in the shop, the camera angles made it feel like she was making a speech check, and the tiny pauses before they replied had that "was it successful" suspense

[@ed-varner8472]

I loved the show but it’s too short I wish we had more episodes 😂 hopefully season 2 isn’t a long wait

[@calebsutton6798]

First episode was about a hour long im pretty sure

[@grind-hardtrashbaggang7083]

@@calebsutton6798it wasn’t enough episodes lmao you can make them 2 hours long if they’re really good and we’re still gonna want more. That’s just a sign of a good show 😂

[@ed-varner8472]

@@grind-hardtrashbaggang7083 agreed haha I think 8 is fine considering the budget but I still want more 😂😂

[@aaroncrocker4242]

2026 season 2

[@ProsDetails]

True but imagine how much just one of these episodes cost to film ya know

[@munc90]

i heard for the purpose for tv show. they actually made t- 60 power armor with exo suite for stunt actor for maximus. and they 3d printed all 3d model from fallout 4. that is why it works. props were printed strait from fallout 4 fiiles

[@boojon2]

Agree 100% they nailed the atmosphere of fallout.

[@phate466]

That's what im saying

[@MisterGoat-qq2sc]

In a way that fallout 4 fell just short of for most of the game

[@packrunnernes]

They really did not, have you played literally any fallout game?

[@boojon2]

@@packrunnernes obviously, and to me they did, and people agree, im validated so i frankly dont care what your opinion on the show is.

[@idakev]

​​@@packrunnernes Did you watch the video?

[@zem7127]

Haters are gonna rage when they hear even the OG creator doesn't share their opinion 😂 NV is my absolute favorite game, and I loved this season

[@Tito_michi]

But Tim Cain didn't even touch New Vegas. Avellone did. And he wrote a decent critique of the show

[@missgreen101]

@@Tito_michi only you rage addicts care what that dude says, dont like it dont watch it.

[@Lucy-fn9rj]

my biggest issue with the show was that it’s only 8 episodes. it needed more breathing room!

[@flaming7488]

Creetosis is about to have a mental breakdown

[@Tito_michi]

Why? Tim Cain isn't the same he used to be, creating equally stupid and goofy game like the Outer Worlds. It's objective truth, many talented people tend to lose their talent.

[@flaming7488]

@@Tito_michi okay but at least Tim has contributed something to this planet

[@norecordingsoftware3309]

If only we could have had this FOR THE HALO TV SHOW!!!!!!

[@starhammer5247]

I understand that it's hard to even attempt to make Halo into a show, so I can understand the alternate timeline thing to an extent and it can be acceptable if the show just FELT like Halo, but the show felt more like a generic sci-fi show than Halo.

[@kevinarzola4781]

Well Halo series was made by people who openly said they didn’t like Halo nor have any real knowledge of the lore. In fact they said that they would be making a completely different show not based on Halo but with halos IP lol

[@barrymantelli8011]

HALO adaptation is awesome, wat?

[@kevinarzola4781]

@@barrymantelli8011 stop it lol

[@nabbunsechkie]

Same with the Witcher on Netflix

[@CharnHorpee]

If HALO got a season 2, this is 100% getting a season 2

[@usernametaken9538]

season 2 of fallout was confirmed before season 1 even premiered so there really is no speculation here

[@THESALTYGAMER-oz3lk]

Season 2 of your baby was confirmed. Thank you so much for making this world sir.

[@Bittamin]

True we are lucky as hell

[@tonyjohnsen3160]

They did good in testing the water with a 8 episode banger of a season

[@kheops8498]

It's more likely trhe amazon meta, The Boys was/is a hit and only has 8 episodes per season

[@toddthezondalover645]

​@@kheops8498Pretty sure The Grand Tour is the same way

[@akiraguy]

Tim Cain. The man. The legend.

[@LecherousLizard]

The Lead _Programmer_ of the first game whose views on post-Interplay Fallouts have changed like a flag on the wind.

[@ZombieKitty321]

This is my exact reaction, im glad he loves it too. It feels fallout, and the huge thing too me is that lore wise, everything they are adding feels realistic, in the sense it could be from the world, they really are not taking to many liberty's with the source material, and they just nailed the atmosphere. Also Cooper being the original vault boy and his whole character arch was just so amazing, i will legit be mad if we dont see more of him in cannon.

[@LecherousLizard]

Cooper doesn't anyhow resemble the original vault boy in any capacity. It's on the level of Emil Pagliarulo saying Nate was present in the intro of Fallout 1.

[@ZombieKitty321]

@@LecherousLizard just means you cant read between the lines, atthe start of the show cooper is disgraced and downtrodden the one we see is him at his prime. There setting him up for coming out against what he heard from the meeting, and them getting shunned by society and having his crediablity destroyed, he was planned to be the vault boy, till he became a "communist" then they created the vault boy as we know it using the refrence he orginaly created with them. Im positive this is where its gonna go. In the words of codsworth in the show, "we are products now. My voice is a product, your a product, im a product"

[@BrennynM]

The first raider fight everyone is on physco and no one has mentioned it lol

[@purplehax1091]

its either psycho or its jet or just psycho-jet

[@BrennynM]

@@purplehax1091 all the raiders were hyped up on who knows what drugs but one of them has to be psycho some of the bigger guys in the slow mo parts looked crazed out and couldn't help but scream after there kill

[@shagman9684]

​@BrennynM Pretty sure it shows that guy that got cut in half taking psycho before the door got him, I could be wrong though 🤔.

[@BrennynM]

@@shagman9684 I will have to do another watch threw for that but you could be right but maybe a different drug

[@Assassion-ff7iq]

​@@shagman9684i think it was jet because psycho uses a needle

[@rromero1091]

Bioshock needs a tv show

[@besnick]

I'd wager a movie would fit Bioshock better

[@GarySiniseOfficial]

Borderlands is getting one tho

[@danielsantarosa101]

Imagine all the ancaps going absolutely mad about a Bioshock TV show

[@valkynxivilai7651]

After watching the show I started a new character on all my fallout games so now I have to play through them all

[@Irving_teran]

Don't kill the ghouls in necropolis

[@Bizz4r2m0ke]

My pc is dead rn so i can only play the console fallouts 😭😭

[@Smorgasvord]

Fallout 4 on xbox keeps corrupting my save files though

[@Bizz4r2m0ke]

@@Smorgasvord is it at a specific part during the game or seemingly random?

[@obredaanps3]

Cain: Approved Internet: But the lore isn't 100% accurate and I'm mad for no reason!!!!!!!

[@cameronpritchett8300]

It's as close to lore as possible, the only people crying about lore is the new vegas fans who hate everything that's not new vegas. Oh because they blew up shady sands or whatever they ruined the whole game? No. They just don't understand the premise of the entire franchise, "war, war never changes" they fact they blow it up is 100 percent what would probably actually happen. Nothing last forever.

[@Rageofthemohawk]

Why do I keep seeing these strawman arguments... there are plenty of reasons to be critical of the show, and not once have I seen anyone solely exclaim that because they are a NV fan they know the lore better or being confrontational strictly because they are a NV fan... frankly I think you guys are making that up and using it as a simply excuse to hand wave away criticism... which is lazy.

[@twodumbgamers9285]

@@Rageofthemohawk they aren't hand waving criticism. They are hand waving the exact people they described. People who are crying about the lore. Not people who are asking questions or just having some criticisms. Honestly you seem like one of those people who is or would cry about the lore.

[@Rageofthemohawk]

@@twodumbgamers9285 so if I might ask is consistency in lore important to you? By all means hand wave me away, but I would remind you that lore of a given world or universe is outright required in order to reinforce setting, atmosphere, and esthetic... without reasonable concrete lore all of the above simply becomes window dressing that can be swapped out at any time for any reason. This is world building 101 kinda stuff. Look I assume you love the show and that's fine... your free to have that opinion, but don't be mad or strawman those that have a better understanding of the lore then you and don't like the esthetic being used as a heavily starched sock all the while not giving credence to the long standing established lore. But by all means keep strawmaning and assuming someone else's possession and or points... because that will be productive.

[@bignwah6905]

Bethesda glazers ignore the fact that there is legitimate criticisms of the show from a classic fans perspective. The show was a great adaptation of Bethesda Fallout but that’s the problem it’s BETHESDA’S goofy interpretation of Fallout not the original vision. Which wouldn’t be a problem if they set the show ANYWHERE besides the west coast. Tim Cain liked the show but other Fallout devs were either indifferent (Josh Sawyer) or disliked it (Chris Avellone) and classic Fallout/ New Vegas was made by a team just because Tim Cain says something doesn’t mean classic fans have to agree with it. For example Avellone wanted Fallout to return to the status quo of “wasteland” instead of seeing new factions rise and society progressing. Which I disagree with as Fallout is most interesting seeing different societies vying for control.

[@MrCarlBackhausen]

Wow, that is high praise! That speaks loads for how good the tv show actually is. I LOVE it! Can´t wait for season 2. It is gonna be torture waiting for it... But it is worth the wait if they make it just as good as the first season was.

[@LecherousLizard]

It's literally this one guy who approves it from the creators of Fallout. The lead PROGRAMMER. Everybody else is either neutral about it or outright doesn't approve.

[@geckoenjoyer]

I’d love to see all the New Vegas fans who are calling it garbage see this. This will be, hehe, “a kick in the head”.

[@CtrlAltF13]

@@geckoenjoyer nothing to see, since tim is the only one of original developers, who liked it, and he's not even the writer.

[@anthonymonhollen9964]

Seasons will be 4 but will make more if it spins the numbers

[@froggygamer1716]

Strange to see Amazon make a movie on a franchise owned by Microsoft

[@Crazymike00]

The small details are amazing. Like the water chip looking exactly like it did in 1

[@pandanarkystudios5198]

In a perfect world, adaptations wouldn't happen without the creators blessing, and wouldnt succeed without it either

[@LecherousLizard]

Meanwhile in the real world, Tim Cain is the only of the creators of Fallout 1 who approve of this show. Even though he criticized Fallout 3 for the same exact decisions that the TV show would end up making.

[@locagaming4752]

Yaaaas they have the feeling down 100% and I LOVE it!

[@HansyPants184]

Loved that they made a new story and fleshed out some of the lore further with vault tec in a first hand way.

[@paranoidandroid7718]

Gotta agree about it feeling right, have been watching with my teenage sons and have been very impressed with set designs, costumes, props and acting. Great show, glad creator agrees.

[@Andriej69]

Jesus, 90% of comments are obvious bots

[@JshoGreeny]

Like which ones are talking about?

[@Andriej69]

@@JshoGreeny Like all the ones copypasting "Show good, cuz muh creator"

[@JshoGreeny]

@@Andriej69 Well that's not proof that a majority of the comments are bots just going through the accounts most seem to be legitimate, unless it's impossible for you imagine people can have opposing opinions to yours?

[@Andriej69]

@@JshoGreeny "Of course they're all legitimate, trust me bro, cuz I said so"

[@dan98996]

The vault suits aren't tight enough

[@tylercarlson1659]

Was like a constant trailer for the game for me in the best kind of way. War never changes!

[@pringle239]

The production quality of the show is nuts tbh. I'm sure I'm not the only one who really wasn't expecting it to be good before it actually came out

[@MrSolidBlakeGaming]

Imagine calling yourself hardcore fan and trashing the series while the original creator praises it 😂

[@ihavenomouthandimusttype9729]

A original creator.

[@tubeguy4066]

He has to praise it, he's still getting paid

[@thihaaung647]

Some hardcore nerdy attention seekers. 😂

[@idakev]

​@@tubeguy4066 He has no involvement in the show and is not being paid. lol. You guys are mental

[@exilestudios9546]

​@@tubeguy4066no he isn't. He is semi retired and hasnt worked on a fallout game since 2.

[@cozachthebarbarian7376]

Best video game adaptation ever! 9/10

[@Jparkss]

My dad surprisingly loved the show, I would always catch him watching it each day and would tell him about the lore and he started watching KZbin lore videos now😭😭

[@gold_leaf0702]

I don't have prime, and I've been really skeptical about the show, but if Cain says he likes it, I may need to check it out when I have the chance:)

[@ptxc1639]

Wait this is the original creator??

[@FrostHard_]

Yup! It's Tim Cain, the creator of the first game.

[@AomineS04]

Yeah, it’s founding father of Fallout. More likely George Washington of Fallout 😂

[@LecherousLizard]

He was the Lead Programmer on Fallout 1. He had no influence on the writing with the exception of the "War. War never changes" line.

[@rinshiwell]

@@LecherousLizard that's literally wrong

[@CrashNTheBoys2002]

@@LecherousLizardquit undermining his role in fallout. He’s the reason why there is fallout games to begin with.

[@michaelmorrigan614]

The only argument I seem to get from people that don't like it is "iT ChECkS EvERy DIverSIty BoX" and the all famous "ItS Too WoKE". But I think the vast majority of those "fans" just watch too much YellowFlash/TheQuartering/GeeksNGamers videos, and just parrot everything they say without actually watching it themselves

[@PowerfulTimmu]

There was some seens that left me like oh damn thats fall out 4 dialog or oh snap that room is from fallout 3 its so cool

[@Lucia-ni4oz]

I love the fact that the dialogue is sometimes very cheesy since it’s a show that takes place in a RPG world

[@PsychoMoFoGaming]

My favorite things in this show is when; the main characters comes across a "random encounter" or talk to an "npc" and their dialoge exchange feels like it was picked from a set of options and that if they just spoken differently the event couldve went down differently, when it clearly seems like a character failed persuation check or uses VATs, and the fact that you can easily tell which perks and skills a character has. These things reallt drive the feel for me.

[@cva1234]

I would love any poorly written show if I was getting a big nice royalty check.

[@paradoksparadoks6299]

Quite correct!

[@imposteramogus2167]

Pretty sure he doesn’t own the rights anymore

[@SubatomicSxge]

The feel was spot on and i cant wait for season 2

[@taer7097]

Loved season 1 I kept putting off watching it because I didn’t wanna be let down

[@miguelrodriguez9908]

Toxic fans will still say it’s not accurate enough.

[@dewdropper1348]

It’s just the New Vegas inconsistencies. But they are saying they will fix those next season. Not everything’s “toxic”

[@stephentarantino1313]

​@@dewdropper1348 some fallout fans are toxic. I say that as this being my favorite game series since 2009

[@sylvilaguscunicularius3155]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@dewdropper1348… you see the other videos, lol. Some people are saying that Cain’s opinion was bought out by the celebrity scene after being invited at the premier of the show. Like get a life and move on at that point. Toxic and rabid.

[@Nobody32990]

​@@sylvilaguscunicularius3155 "like the hollywood-beathesda slop or you are thaaaaxic". lmao no.

[@sylvilaguscunicularius3155]

@@Nobody32990 no one is saying that, lol, geezus. The fallout new vegasers eat their own is all I’m saying… super toxic.

[@tyrannosaur6265]

Love how he says that its ok not being 1 to 1, alot of people need to realize how important the difference in medium is. Thats how we can get good show adaptions of games and vice versa

[@stuntmankustoms8991]

If Tim Cain is happy with your work you know you did something right. Good show. Been a fan since the game released in the 90s. Have my survival guide still today.

[@martinb5626]

It's like watching someone else's playthrough, just without the junk dumps and game freeze restarts.

[@0ptimusLime]

The moment that made me think "Yup, this is faithful Fallout" was when she grabbed the first aid kit and used the Stimpak. Good stuff.

[@ellisbkennedy652]

Goddamnit i guess i will watch mr. Fallout

[@terriblefez]

Be careful. ALL the shills agree and whether or not they're being honest should be a question you can answer

[@AgentDigits]

I love Cain. Creator of the franchise and also the franchises biggest fan aha I hope theres a season 2 as well. Like, desperately. No way this gets canned after one season

[@stephenbenner4353]

Some certain level of silliness is good though. I really liked the oversized BOS squire backpacks for example. It was ridiculous but plausible and did actually emphasize the squire knight dynamic portrayed in this version of Fallout.

[@Radwar99]

I want Tim Cain as a cameo in season 2.

[@riconosey]

honestly if u dont like the show for the reason it "doesnt feel like fallout" or something along those lines ur just miserable and want something new to hate

[@pntbllr2007]

I see this series as another fallout game that was just put in show format, and tbh I love it. Played and complete all games besides 76, EWW 76,

[@ashtondillard6906]

EWW?

[@risingphoenix2529]

@@ashtondillard6906it’s just another guy that’s avoided it since launch and still thinks it’s 2018. You’d be surprised how many people refuse to accept that the game is alive and well because it’ll break the illusion they have of it still being launch day broken. I didn’t touch the game for over 2 years after it launched for the same reasons and now play it pretty consistently. I’m almost grateful that the game isn’t filled with people like that guy.

[@TheObserver3]

It's been an amazing show and I too hope for a season 2.

[@ZRV01]

Did he get Alzheimer’s or something? The TV show isn’t anything like old school Fallout. They literally relocated Shady Sands and deleted the Boneyard.

[@scaramanga2806]

Nerd

[@CtrlAltF13]

​@@scaramanga2806is it supposed to be offensive or complimenting?

[@scaramanga2806]

@@CtrlAltF13 both

[@Meenousemusic]

It's not THE creator of Fallout universe, it's one of creators, with Leonid Boyarsky, Brian Fargo, Chris Avellone and all other people from the original team, who added something little by little into the universe. Tbh if we are talking about Fallout lorewise- it's better to call Chris Avellone the godfather of Fallout, because he's the author of Fallout bible. Update: Chris Avellone said in twitter lorewise this show is a mess. Which it is.

[@za7304]

Cain made the game engine, and he is technically the creator but still had a team helping him

[@Meenousemusic]

@@za7304 And it was Leo's idea to make it in 50s retrofuturistic setting instead of blatantly copying "Road warrior" movie. As i said- this game is a collective idea. Which is ruined to that day by schizo fanfiction of Emil Pagliarulo and Todd.

[@chestermicgun]

Did Chris actually say that?

[@Meenousemusic]

@@chestermicgun yep. It's on his twitter.

[@chestermicgun]

@@Meenousemusic while his opinion is valid he wasn’t part of the original team of fallout while Tim Cain did so Tim’s opinion matters more

[@chrisschuler2278]

He has the best take on any, cross media, entertainment. Yes it's not a game but yes it feels like it's in the same cannon, and he didn't get mad about it. He got excited about it, and he's seeing his brain child grow and is proud of it's growth...love it

[@nathanhails5901]

They did confirm Season two I believe.

[@LemonTR_]

I thought the show was great, the only problem i have with it is a problem i have with modern tv in general in that the camera qualities to good it makes it feel weird its hard to describe

[@FinneasJedidiah]

If you watch on a TV make sure motion smoothing and upscaling are turned off

[@henrynewton8267]

Yeah it's got an almost clinical feel ae. Almost over produced. A lot of new music is the same. It's missing that buzz, the warmth.

[@RockingRobby505]

And the games aren't the exact same as each other

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

Yup, they change the lore in every entry, the vaults didn’t have experiments in the first game

[@jeniferdiamond7723]

The moment the first night chickened out fighting the Rodent of unusual size

[@Jfreek5050]

My biggest criticism is there was no ode to God Howard with somebody t-posing and rocketing off into the stratosphere.

[@joelbruhn4118]

I liked the mystery behind 32 and 31. And the reveal of the truely evil act that happened to Shady sands.

[@tempestive1]

I was a bit disappointed with some details, like pristine metal object in towns, the dog perfectly still while in pain and being stimmed, the dude with the leg blown off lasíon the ground with breaks in continuity... elements of believability.

[@chrissmilich3530]

It is really really good. They did a fantastic job

[@billcox8870]

I like the fact that you were inspired by the game Wasteland when creating fallout. I managed to beat Wasteland.

[@LecherousLizard]

When Fallout 3 came out Tim Cain complained about a number of things, all of which the show did WORSE. I don't know about other fans, but for me he never was any kind of authority on the subject (as he was the lead PROGRAMMER not a writer), especially now that he did 180 with his views about post-Interplay Fallouts. As for the TV show: It doesn't feel like Fallout. It feels like a parody of Bethesda's Fallouts, which in turn already are a parody of Fallout. So... a parody of a parody. For me the show was just... nonsensically boring.

[@dantehernandez7940]

The show was trash

[@JGD185]

I hope he gets royalties because Fallout is an enormous franchise now.

[@LecherousLizard]

Why do you think he's praising the show for the same exact things he criticized the games in the past? Bro has no integrity. Not like his opinion ever even mattered. He's the lead programmer for the first game. He had no creative input into the writing in the first place.

[@bargainbrandmilk9858]

bos was too medieval for my liking but yeah, it felt like a good blend between og fallout and bethesda fallout

[@LVSGosen]

They have also been somewhat medieval

[@YoreADumy]

the people wearing suits of armour called knights and squires were too medieval for you?

[@bargainbrandmilk9858]

@@LVSGosen they have never once used "my lord" in any of the fallout games, the bethesda ones at least

[@idipped2521]

@@bargainbrandmilk9858 did they do it in fallout 1-2?

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

At the end of fallout 1 we are told the brotherhood became a quazi religious fanatics who worship technology. The BoS in the show fit perfectly. The knight vibe fits considering you know... They are called knights and paladins.

[@wattson4051]

You hear that new Vegas fans?

[@jobjobbington6884]

NV is my favorite. I thought the show was gonna suck. I honestly loved it.

[@wattson4051]

@@jobjobbington6884 you're the most open minded NV fan I've met 😅😅 most of them hated it because they stopped after the first 15 minutes 🤣🤣

[@Nobody32990]

​@@wattson4051it hard to watch something that butchers entire premise of the source material as well as its subtext and thematic elements. Show "feels" like Fallout but has no substance of it. In particular New Vegas, because it puts to shame anything released by Bethesda ever since.

[@bluewhitespartan5258]

​@@wattson4051There is only 5 haters alltogether.

[@kevinlawson1746]

It blew my mind when I found that Desert scene is a real place and not CGI .

[@STARvUCK2]

Hat's off to the writers... The show 'feels' like several FalloutRPG playthrough styles converging in one cinematic.

[@user-ft5sw5zk8t]

I wonder how much they paid this man to say this.

[@americannightmare1134]

Last of us is the worst tv show Fallout yet is the best game adaptation 🎉 Whem you don't put woke ideology and keep it Fan based you have something 🎉

[@twodumbgamers9285]

Last of us is way better though than Halo! 🤮the f'ed up that show hard

[@americannightmare1134]

@@twodumbgamers9285 Last of us would have been better if they didn't make it woke. Halo , ... Only saw the first season. But they could have done alot better.

[@twodumbgamers9285]

@@americannightmare1134 last of us was okay until all the woke bs. I would definitely agree! Halo, I watched the first episode and couldn't stop laughing at the cgi and how horrible it was. That's all I gave it. Once I heard master chief turned into master cheeks I was not gunna give it a single chance. I'll watch Forward Unto Dawn for a great Master Chief live action adaptation.

[@JJJBunney001]

What woke stuff in TLOU? I can't remember anything unless you're talking about 1 episode with a gay couple, the rest was pretty spot on to the game

[@DamonAkuma92]

You don't know much about cain huh.

[@DavidGowers]

I LOVE that they didn't try to adapt a specific game for the show, but adapted the world instead. THAT is how you adapt shit like this that has such a storied history.

[@claytonspargo]

It’s was hilarious seeing all the complaints about it then watching and seeing that none of them were true. People were complaining that they made vault tec the bad guys which I didn’t understand cause vault tec were always the bad guys

[@VeryScarySmile]

NV stans gonna ignore this

[@jobjobbington6884]

I’m a NV stan and I loved the show.

[@Cee2k]

NV stans aren't even Fallout fans, 90% of them haven't played 1 or 2

[@jobjobbington6884]

@@Cee2k but have you played Wasteland… the game I’ve been told is the inspiration for fallout? What about watched all of Mad Max, the movies I’ve been told are the inspiration for Wateland? Have you seen Marvel’s Cold War? The thing I hear inspired Mad Max? Just sayin. I’ve done all those things cause I’m a bigger fallout fan than you 🤷‍♂️

[@MuseBySecrecy]

Doesn’t feel much like Fallout at all. It’s too overexposed and breezy. An authentic Fallout - murky & darkly atmospheric - just has no mass appeal to be a tv show.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

... Bro he's Tim Cain he created fallout if anyone knows what true fallout feels like it's him.

[@RealReploid]

Creator of the series: “The show feels like Fallout” Random fan: “It doesn’t feel like Fallout at all” Do you know which of these two opinions is correct?

[@MuseBySecrecy]

@@YOGI-kb9tgMatt Groening created The Simpsons. But he didn’t create the majority of the characters, or jokes, or even many of the episodes. These things are helmed by dozens of people.

[@user-qq3kj9pc4c]

Imagine your first Fallout game was FO4, you were appx 12yrs old and you loved that game. You love it, you spent a lot of time with it and you have fond memories etc. Fast forward 20years later and there is a completely new generation of players who didnt play that game. They like the new one, which is completely different and are calling you obnoxious loser for not liking it… Come back to this comment 20yrs from now and see how you feel about it.

[@Anthony-fi8sz]

Judging on how popularity in the games have boomed since release I can almost guarantee a season 2

[@spregged7231]

I’m glad. Fallout fans been needing a W for a good while now. This is the icing on the cake when the creator gives it his blessing.

[@sampaddie617]

Just hope since it's a success they get access to better film locations.

[@minero1775]

I was very shocked by how brutal it is. I feel like it hit the top of the metre for brutal and zany that's just so Fallout

[@TheGoose.]

I can’t wait till season 2 That new Vegas cliffhanger is teasing me

[@SubieNinja]

the show takes place only 6 years after fallout new vegas and for some reason shady sands is back to being called shady sands and not NCR which is what it had been called since at least fallout 2 40+ years earlier. now its possible something happened where the NCR broke up and they went back to calling it shady sands but that doesnt seem terribly likely NCR was basically the biggest baddest established government in the area especially after "the chosen one" decimated the enclave. the brotherhood of steel was not a very big group in fallout 2 or fallout new vegas. so i dont know how the NCR would have been reduced so much so fast