Original WH-1 vs Reissue WH-4 Comparison

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kriista

kriista

Күн бұрын

Here is my video comparing my newly acquired WH1 whammy pedal with my older WH4 whammy pedal.
My WH-4 has been modified for true-byass as found here:
www.rodrigocons...
The WH-1 is running through a true-bypass looper to make things fair.
Which one sounds better? It's a tough call. Much closer than most people would have you believe.
For more info check out:
www.rodrigocons...

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@Samzee89
@Samzee89 12 жыл бұрын
It's sacred tradition that every whammy demo features the Like A Stone solo.
@MarkDally
@MarkDally 12 жыл бұрын
Best Whammy Demo I've found, perfect song choices. Nice work
@kite3350
@kite3350 14 жыл бұрын
that second riff you played (when you played the whammy 4 for the second time) was so beautiful and epic!
@XxStonedImmaculatexX
@XxStonedImmaculatexX 5 жыл бұрын
OMG Radiohead used this for OK Computer??? I wanted to get it mostly for Rage but I REALLY REALLY want it now for OK Computer 😍😍😍
@ishancooper
@ishancooper 13 жыл бұрын
What do people think of the WH-I vs. the WH-II? They have the same processing chip, similar size and different function selection, but what about the sounds??
@sharkey5150
@sharkey5150 13 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell from your recording, it appears to me that the newer "4" sounds a touch cleaner and just by watching it seems to track a little better....... I've got to get me another one soon! Mine was stolen along with the rest of my pedal board, couple years back...
@satchrules101
@satchrules101 4 жыл бұрын
Bro that must of been bitch that ur pedals got stolen.
@cha1890
@cha1890 13 жыл бұрын
Great man!!, just one question.. what's the name for the song next to like a stone solo?
@sideslick1024
@sideslick1024 12 жыл бұрын
What would they sound like combined?
@deathcabforpaddy
@deathcabforpaddy 14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this. I had the WH-4 and sold it about a year ago. I always heard the WH-1 was better but I agree that they are both pretty similar. When you play My Iron Lung in the intro to my surprise I thought "A" sounded better than "B". Also do you know if the whammy was used in the outro to Under the Bridge on the album?
@jazzykat1000
@jazzykat1000 14 жыл бұрын
I hate to say this since I don't have the original and can't reasonably spring for it, but is it me or does the original sound "warmer maybe fuzzier" or more "authentic" especially for many of those first tunes and anything Morello? Some stuff I honestly couldn't notice a difference on.
@moonkef
@moonkef 13 жыл бұрын
WH1 sounds better. It seems to track better and the 2oct up is smoother and fuller. Do they both have the same optical set up? The WH-4 uses a plastic wiper attached to the rocker that gradually gets darker and gradually blocks the LED out as you depress the rocker (as I'm sure you know). Whereas on the MK1 Whammy/Wah, the LED is attached to the end of a metal arm attached to the rocker and as you rock the pedal, the led moves closer or further away
@RunningFromSatan
@RunningFromSatan 14 жыл бұрын
What is that thing in the middle? Just an A/B effect loop switch?
@azombiestool
@azombiestool 13 жыл бұрын
The only thing I dont like about the Whammy 4 is the mid range of it. Like.. it goes straight from the treadle effect at the bottom.. straight to the top effect. Theres hardly any middle area unless you control your foot to go extra slow on it so it goes through it, but who wants to do have to worry about that? How large is the mid range area of effect on the WH-1? Thanks.
@HouseOfSpheres
@HouseOfSpheres 14 жыл бұрын
@RunningFromSatan Good point; it's especially odd considering that in some of Digitech's other recent pitch-altering pedals (such as the HarmonyMan), they got the "bagpipe" pitch selection effect seamless.
@youkilledkenny2341
@youkilledkenny2341 11 жыл бұрын
whats the setting for down rodeo? and great video :)
@spikelive
@spikelive 14 жыл бұрын
thank you,grazie! great video comparison! what do u think about the pitch glide of the M9-M13? Ciao cheers!
@XFattMonsterX
@XFattMonsterX 14 жыл бұрын
i just the the chrome edition and I want to mod my other (red) wh-4. I'd really like to trade the chrome one for a wh-1. I'd love to aquire the bass whammy though... great comparison, and mod tips! thanks for posting!
@1slowhead
@1slowhead 13 жыл бұрын
By the reviews I'd always read, the WH-1 sounded like it was night and day different to the WH-4 but I really think the reissue held its own! I like the glitchy decay of my WH-4. When paired with delay and other effects, the odd electronic warbling decay is beautiful. To each their own :-)
@DannielMP
@DannielMP 14 жыл бұрын
Is these pedals that we hear on Pink Floyd´s "Marooned"? Tks
@conorf193
@conorf193 12 жыл бұрын
but is the price difference worth the small sound difference?
@SRVai
@SRVai 14 жыл бұрын
Damn. I'd heard everywhere that the WH1 is leaps and bounds above the WH4, but it appears they sound much much more alike than I had envisioned.
@kite3350
@kite3350 14 жыл бұрын
@kriista what do you mean better boom at the END?
@Strauss_daddy
@Strauss_daddy 15 жыл бұрын
thx for puttin this vid up i own the reissue n wanted to hear the difference :) btw wats the settings on your delay for like a stone matched perfect ive been messin wit slapback, short delay but this delay was spot on i own a boss dd1 thx
@WATCHSONICS
@WATCHSONICS 12 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the test! I lean more towards the whammy 4. The "1" seems a bit more 'Separated from the guitar voice' ... like an add on effect .... where as the 4 seems to be a wholesome part of the guitar voice. gotta get me one of those true bypass mods though.... yes I own a whammy 4, but I honestly think it comes over better....
@Strauss_daddy
@Strauss_daddy 12 жыл бұрын
rodrigo sorry hafta ask when your dirty you rollin back your volume @ all? bc i own the WH-4 without mods and i always(always) thought the WH1 was better under the harmony section but the notes sound 2 dirty...i had to take my whammy out of my rig n a boss tremolo bc they eat up tone bad lookin to mod both bc of this bc i play thru mg100hdfx n the guitarist has tube head lol but ya great demo...be cool if u did a vid comparin the newest 1
@deanmartiniwini
@deanmartiniwini 11 жыл бұрын
Did Frusciante not use the boss ce-1 chorus for that part? I know he has used this whammy but I always thought that part was def a ce-1 and I recognized a lot of riffs that actually used this whammy pedal so I was confused. Nice demo, thanks
@youkilledkenny2341
@youkilledkenny2341 11 жыл бұрын
i love how beat up and road-worn the WH-1 looks, it looks like its served well for a long time :)
@Jammonstrald
@Jammonstrald 13 жыл бұрын
I think the WH-1 sounds better on everything aside from the low-octave pitch shift (the white stripes bit), however, I'm partial to some of the quirks of the WH-1 (such as the warbling decay, and some of it's "dirt"). Plus, what the video cannot capture is how the WH-1 feels. It has a reallllly nice sweep to it, and I love the smaller, compact build.
@kite3350
@kite3350 14 жыл бұрын
@kriista gee thanks! how much does the wh-1 go for?
@vampyros1
@vampyros1 14 жыл бұрын
I own a WH-1, but the WH-4 sounds better in this demo save for when you turned the rotary dial...the WH-1 sounded great there. I think there was a subtle, but present volume differential...the 4 being a bit louder, which will almost always gear the brain towards favor. It seems as though you played better w/the 4, as if you were more inspired. I'd bet that YOU like the 4 better.....please tell. And thanks for the shootout!
@tanvo93
@tanvo93 14 жыл бұрын
would u recommend spending 500 for a WH-1 or the 200 for the re-issue?
@chaseth
@chaseth 14 жыл бұрын
what kind of loop switcher thing do you have in the middle there? i dig
@harrisonrg777
@harrisonrg777 13 жыл бұрын
i dont get it i have the wh-4 and ive used it for the last 6 years!! ive never had to calibrate it. it works perfect. the only thing is i have to tighten up the pedal once a year and thats it. ive seen other people say the same thing about needing to calibrate theres. so whats the deal??
@Nexeque
@Nexeque 11 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, cool demo! What's the song from 10:24 to 11:00 ?
@JeffreyC2
@JeffreyC2 15 жыл бұрын
Can you please post your entire signal path? What are you running through? Is that M9 in the equation, an amp? Thanks.
@luiszv14
@luiszv14 13 жыл бұрын
a whammy pedal demo will never be complete until you add some Tom Morello madness!! YEAH! =D
@marcoangelomusic
@marcoangelomusic 14 жыл бұрын
superb video!
@AbelAlzaga
@AbelAlzaga 12 жыл бұрын
Che amigo, ese pedal que tenes en el medio, que es?
@jerry131128
@jerry131128 10 жыл бұрын
Hi, i got the question about this whammy wh1. i plugged it into an amp with the original power supply, the LED light was indicated. But there's bunch of weird noise appear, like a ground noise, radio noise sth. At the same time, the original power supply start to burn out with smoke. By then i changed the other power supply that comes with my whammy 4 and plug it in, the LED light is still indicated and there's still the noise...what's going on with the issue? Please kindly help...
@kriista
@kriista 10 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Sounds like you should take it an electrical repair guy. Smoke from a power supply isn't something you want to mess around with.
@jerry131128
@jerry131128 10 жыл бұрын
kriista Thanks for the reply dude! i just try to plug it in to an amp again w/ other power supply since i believe the original one was damaged already...With the other power supply, no whammy effects at all, still bunch of noise but the notes i played can be heard...so what's wrong out there...?...just very frustrated w/ it...:(
@kriista
@kriista 10 жыл бұрын
Jerry L Don't really know. Best bet is to take it to a technician.
@jerry131128
@jerry131128 10 жыл бұрын
kriista Thanks for your reply. great playing. cheers
@trex257
@trex257 13 жыл бұрын
I think the WH4 sounds better on the lower frequencies but you can't beat that WH1 higher frequency warble. I love it. To each his own I guess. I am going to buy a WH4 soon simply because I don't want to shell out $500 for the original on ebay in crap condition.
@DjMetiuZ
@DjMetiuZ 14 жыл бұрын
what is the solo at 3.20?
@trokeification
@trokeification 14 жыл бұрын
What was the first song played?
@GuilhermeEFOliveira
@GuilhermeEFOliveira 14 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the song at 4:39?
@Zeupater
@Zeupater 12 жыл бұрын
The differences are subtle and taste is subjective, but I like the tracking delay, the extra overtones and messiness of the WH-1. The 'improvements' over the years in various forms, from other WH pedals to the EX-7 and now the RP systems have never managed to capture the lo-fi charm of the 12-bit grandfather of them all. I was lucky enough to pick up a WH-1 back when they were still being made. Word at the time was that it had a great chorus sound, and indeed it does, plus much more.
@morgan9125
@morgan9125 8 жыл бұрын
what is the second riff you played after homesick alien
@kriista
@kriista 8 жыл бұрын
Searching by Joe Satriani
@loulouz461
@loulouz461 12 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me the name of the song at 6:45 ? :)
@diegornr3312
@diegornr3312 2 жыл бұрын
Which AC power supply on the WH-1 you have ?
@kriista
@kriista 2 жыл бұрын
This was some time ago so I don't remember but probably the AC slot on a Pedal Power thing.
@johnnysitarphillips
@johnnysitarphillips 14 жыл бұрын
Id say they both sound great, but i think the Wh-1 is just a bit smoother and more organic sounding. Although the Wh-4 seems to have slightly higher range. I would agree that their droptune settings sound nearly identical. If there is a way to mod the Wh-4 to sound a little more organic like the Wh-1 Id do that. But as they are, Id have to pick the Wh-1 as my personal favorite.
@Sickindian5
@Sickindian5 11 жыл бұрын
How do you play Satch tune ?
@galiddnomyar
@galiddnomyar 14 жыл бұрын
Can this be powered by a Voodoo Lab PP2?
@mediastalker
@mediastalker 12 жыл бұрын
What is song at 3:24? I Know that song I just pull it out of my Head.
@thebetterdad
@thebetterdad 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, what about the whammy of the Line 6 m9(Pitch glide)? It is good?. And what about the harmony of the line 6 compared to whammy 4? Thanks for the video
@kriista
@kriista 8 жыл бұрын
+thebetterdad I didn't compare that mode (and don't have the M9 anymore), but I don't remember it doing that cool "warble" sound that the WH-1 does.
@thebetterdad
@thebetterdad 8 жыл бұрын
And whammy 4? Do you think it worth? I mean, I can buy it at low price but... What about tone sucking or Harmony mode(5th Up)?
@kriista
@kriista 8 жыл бұрын
+thebetterdad I would just get a WH5 these days. True bypass, plus you get polyphonic mode too, so kind of best-of-all-worlds really.
@thebetterdad
@thebetterdad 8 жыл бұрын
Yes but i can not afford a Whammy 5. My friend is selling a whammy 4 for 100 dollars.
@kriista
@kriista 8 жыл бұрын
+thebetterdad Ah right. I didn't really compare the harmony stuff between the M9 and WH1/4, but I remember it sounding alright enough. If you want a stand alone whammy and have one you can get for cheap, it might be worth it.
@MotoRiff77
@MotoRiff77 14 жыл бұрын
doesn't the m9 have whammy? you should compare that too, I have a m13 I'm not sure about the m9
@DanandJoeMusic
@DanandJoeMusic 12 жыл бұрын
Love the Radiohead riffs, good comparison video!
@NateMchaggis
@NateMchaggis 6 жыл бұрын
Only thing that sucks about the whammy is its not true bypass but i heard the newest ones are.
@krasskrass
@krasskrass 13 жыл бұрын
please make a comparison with the Whammy DT
@tony642321
@tony642321 14 жыл бұрын
what is the song at 2:35 ?
@zombiemosher1139
@zombiemosher1139 6 жыл бұрын
The other night I put my XP100, WH-4 & DHP33 rack unit(WH-1 chip) up against each other. I asked my son who has no knowledge of Whammy's at all & he picked the DHP33 so there is definitely more to it than nostalgia, me personally, i preferred the 4, sounded a little deeper to me on gain but clean the DHP33 reigned supreme so they all have there place.
@intrsoul
@intrsoul 12 жыл бұрын
Huh - the bit at 14:10 switching the settings is interesting. You can't get the Tom M. effect with v.4 :(
@redwill21
@redwill21 13 жыл бұрын
what song is 2.35 ?? man that's insane :D nice demo too
@awienc
@awienc 9 жыл бұрын
I bought Whammy V, but I'm little disappointed, I wanted Whammy for making those awesome, Tom Morello glitching, it sounds fascinating, but with V even with classic mode on, it's too clean for me :( Now I don't know if I should buy IV or Re-issue for this effect, Reissue will certainly do this effect, but IV has more options AFAIK. Someone maybe knows if IV can do this glitching also?
@crystalneth994
@crystalneth994 9 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it with a slapback delay after it? I know Tom Morello used that on most of the RATM stuff
@DMTune
@DMTune 9 жыл бұрын
Wiencon See my solo!! i have the whammy IV, and if you dont have a delay, you can add it the "delay effect" to the sound in the sony vegas pro, ;)
@nicks4802
@nicks4802 7 жыл бұрын
wiencheck you need to run a fuzz pedal with it as well if you wanna get a true RATM sound
@carnivorousjazz827
@carnivorousjazz827 7 жыл бұрын
Morello doesn't use any fuzz, drive, or boost pedals, it's all from his amp. I'm not sure how he gets a JCM800 to sound like that though.
@mrburns366
@mrburns366 6 жыл бұрын
I thought the IV and reissue were the same thing?
@carlosceds
@carlosceds 13 жыл бұрын
@kriista what song in 1:50
@luiszv14
@luiszv14 14 жыл бұрын
what guitar and pickups are u using?
@luiszv14
@luiszv14 14 жыл бұрын
what is the song of 8:34 ???
@aitoolsdaily
@aitoolsdaily 14 жыл бұрын
whats the first song?
@ContemptuousCornbread
@ContemptuousCornbread 13 жыл бұрын
The WH-1 tracking sounded smoother to me overall. But I was honestly surprised at the blind test results.
@arkhammoved
@arkhammoved 12 жыл бұрын
Aah the second song is Radiohead too isn't it? I can't remember which one though, help me out?
@carlosceds
@carlosceds 13 жыл бұрын
what song in 1:50 ?????????
@popstore123211
@popstore123211 6 жыл бұрын
What song is that at 8:34
@kriista
@kriista 6 жыл бұрын
Message in a Bottle by The Police
@Kangaroopoo007
@Kangaroopoo007 13 жыл бұрын
what song is played at 2:30 can anyone let me know please
@McDouchebag22
@McDouchebag22 12 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you ran them both in 2 octave up? an explosion.
@RunningFromSatan
@RunningFromSatan 14 жыл бұрын
The "bagpipe" @ 14:05...the WH-1 is the clear winner. See: intro to "Voice of the Voiceless" by RATM and the solo in "Shadow on the Sun". I don't know why Digitech couldn't get that concept right in the reissue. Other than that and the chorus they sound really similar. Although the 2 octave "screech" like in "Bullet in the Head" sounds noticeably different on the WH-1 as well.
@bengativo6
@bengativo6 14 жыл бұрын
damn man your foot looks like a damn 12 inch subway sandwich ,i just purchased the whammy on the right side new for 199 im just waiting for it on the mail,which one is better? ,i didnt see much difference except for the size of it the one on the right is way bigger than the whammy 1 ,i have 10 stomp boxes can this go on the first position on my board?
@ishancooper
@ishancooper 13 жыл бұрын
@90sRockWhore My only beef with the WH-II is the noise/tone sucking. Otherwise I think its great. Need a TB mod for it.
@xHighPotencyx
@xHighPotencyx 14 жыл бұрын
The WH-1 seems to struggle more on high notes and fast runs. The tracking difference isn't big enough to me to justify paying $500 for a used WH-1 when you can get a WH-4 for $100. I also prefer the Detune mode of the WH-4 over the WH-1. The WH-1 sounds more like a tremolo effect than a chorus effect like the WH-4.
@bttllagostera
@bttllagostera 6 жыл бұрын
What about the 5 version VS de 4? Thanks
@megakill80
@megakill80 6 жыл бұрын
If you like a very "clean" whammy, 5 version is for you. If you prefer the classic sound, IV is the choice!
@luisnunez5944
@luisnunez5944 6 жыл бұрын
How you calibrate the Wh-1?
@kriista
@kriista 6 жыл бұрын
It happens automatically in the WH-1. When you turn it on, if you sweep the pedal from minimum to maximum it calibrates off that.
@luisnunez5944
@luisnunez5944 6 жыл бұрын
No need to press and hold the bypass swicht like the four versión?
@kriista
@kriista 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. They added that later on. In the first version it happened automatically. You don't need to do it everything, but it's a good idea to do it if you bump the pedal around or if it isn't tracking well at the extremes.
@luisnunez5944
@luisnunez5944 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot bro, you should make a video with the process because there is no information on the web,have a nice day and thanks a lot!!!
@robo9hobo
@robo9hobo 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Much less confusing than trawling through the forums.
@RoryGamble
@RoryGamble 14 жыл бұрын
Let's see some 4-octave madness!
@kite3350
@kite3350 14 жыл бұрын
oh and which one do you like better? in your own oppinion.
@DKolha
@DKolha 12 жыл бұрын
song of the video intro?
@90sRockWhore
@90sRockWhore 13 жыл бұрын
@ishancooper i love my wh-2 would never replace it, but , i dont know, it doesnt sound as fat as the WH-1 its a bit more shrill and trebly. But it's got its own sound, even though, really they all sound really similar.
@MrJoeystockdale
@MrJoeystockdale 10 жыл бұрын
The only thing that would of made the vid better is to have worn socks.
@JJohnson1340
@JJohnson1340 6 жыл бұрын
MrJoeystockdale and jeans or trousers anything to hide the freshly shaved legs , or were they tights ? .. I couldn’t stay .. freaky shit man
@kangaroofoot
@kangaroofoot 4 жыл бұрын
Ana Vrin Damn you. Now it’s bothering me. I was just fine before. lol
@futurfry
@futurfry 14 жыл бұрын
my iron lung and subterranean homesick alien are probably in my top 5 favorites of radiohead, them being my FAVORITE BAND
@HVatore
@HVatore 12 жыл бұрын
A = REISSUE WH-4 B = ORIGINAL WH-1
@benbrunskill5618
@benbrunskill5618 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I prefer the version 4 in every clip. And I liked A at the beginning.
@kriista
@kriista 12 жыл бұрын
"Under the Bridge" by Red Hot Chilli Peppers (the jammy/strummy ending bit)
@novamanteum
@novamanteum 13 жыл бұрын
4:00 the W-1 REALLY shined.
@DEEECKED
@DEEECKED 13 жыл бұрын
Liked the My Iron Lung intro, I didn't know this is the pedal Greenwood used.
@intrsoul
@intrsoul 12 жыл бұрын
Firs t- awesome video. The way all demos should be done. My $.02: Newer one sounds more articulate, defined and handles lower register (-8va) better. Original has more...charm? The glitch-iness is more pleasing to the ear on v1.
@Strauss_daddy
@Strauss_daddy 15 жыл бұрын
yea i def agree with you i love rage stuff n just like a stone on the reissue sounded alot fuller...but when it came down to know ur enemy at 7:20 just the harmony sounded alot crispier n not muddy
@Travmann777
@Travmann777 12 жыл бұрын
Smart way to do a side by side. It's stupid how people generally do it: they tell you whats good and don't give you a real chance to have an opinion.
@philipps8150
@philipps8150 12 жыл бұрын
Como se llama la cancion del 2:30 min.
@AmagrasMUSIC
@AmagrasMUSIC 9 жыл бұрын
"A" sounds warmer and less digital, that must be the WH-1, although the octave down sounds better in ver.4
@comidachinahuskys2
@comidachinahuskys2 9 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly A was actually the wh-4
@actioninja8654
@actioninja8654 8 жыл бұрын
Both are digital pedals, the WH-1 sounds like complete shit actually. But that's exactly why I want one so badly, they make some absolute nasty glitching noises that are really difficult to replicate with anything else.
@satchrules101
@satchrules101 4 жыл бұрын
@@actioninja8654 lmfao gold!
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 12 жыл бұрын
This is a great review
@V100BB
@V100BB 11 жыл бұрын
Just a true bypass mod, doesn't effect the comparison as the other pedal is in a true bypass loop.
@demayojason88
@demayojason88 14 жыл бұрын
a radiohead fan! right on! cool demo
@coolcustomer31
@coolcustomer31 12 жыл бұрын
great demo. thanks.
@MegaWumba
@MegaWumba 9 жыл бұрын
All the Whammys are good. I have the xp-100. Doesn't have all the features as the upgraded models but when it comes to octave up/down its ALL whammy!
@OmniscientVirtuosity
@OmniscientVirtuosity 8 жыл бұрын
They are all good. It's a bunch of mythology. What's better or not? There's just nostalgia about the WH-1 because of what Vai, Dime and Tom Morello did with the 1 before anybody could really afford them. Or would blow 200 on essentially a fancy pitch shifter. I have a 4 and the DT and they are both unbelievable and have their own traits that expand many ideas
@DaveRaveChannel
@DaveRaveChannel 12 жыл бұрын
I love Whammy and Radiohead, this video is a combo.
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