Origins Of Cendol: Singaporean, Malaysian, Or Javanese? | On The Red Dot: Food Fight - Part 4/4

[@ShaerynNaggaryan]

Cendol is an ancient Javanese food and has been written in the Kresnayana manuscript (12th century AD) Ancient Javanese food from the 9th century AD that still exists today 1.Dawet/Cendol -> kresnayana manuscript (12 AD) 2. Pecel -> ramayana manuscript (870 AD) 3. Wajik -> Nawaruci Manuscript (1533 AD) 4. Rawon -> bhomakarya manuscript Kediri Kingdom (900 AD) 5. Kerupuk -> Ramayana Manuscript (870 AD) 6. Dodol -> Prasasti Sanguran (928 AD) 7. Gurame fish -> Prasasti Taji (910 AD) 8. Rujak -> Prasasti Paradah (943 AD) 9. Salted fish -> Bhomakarya, Kediri Kingdom (900 AD) 10. Jadah -> Nawaruci Manuscript, Majapahit Kingdom. (14 AD) 11. Urap -> Prasasti Linggasuntan (929 AD) 12. Tape/Tapai Ketan -> Ramayana Manuscript (9 AD) 13. Lalapan -> Prasasti Jeru-Jeru, Medang/Ancient Mataram (930 AD) 14. Beef Déndéng -> Prasasti Taji (901 AD) Keep barking, neighbour 🤪

[@M_Daniel7777]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@M_Daniel7777 mampos lah smenanj1nk yg MINIM PERADABAN SEJARAH KAGAK PUNYA APAPUN YG ORIGINAL!! SEMUA COPYPASTE DARI INDONESIA!!! HUAHAHAHAHA! 10 TAHUN LAGI KALIAN PASTI NGEKLAIM AYAM GEPREK, AYAM GEPUK, AYAM PENYET, CIPTAAN ORANG JAWA DI INDONESIA PAS JAMAN MODERN. MAU PAKE ALASAN APA ENTAR PAS NGEKLAIM? 🤪

[@mainmusik3677]

Chiki ? Micin ? Ayam geprek ?

[@rifkynda8588]

Malaysia doesn't have any script they just claim anything that exist in their country🤣

[@BoysHobbyArea]

​@@mainmusik3677 orang komen serius di bercandain. hargai lah dia udah mau bela makanan indonesia. wait anda orang indo bukan?

[@chocobrowniewin]

Malaysia and Singapore are the kids that argue who did it better, while mommy Indonesia shakes her head in the corner.

[@ina79ful]

Well said 😂

[@shamshulanuar7718]

@@ina79ful well said. But far from truth

[@ww3937]

@@shamshulanuar7718 Things a maling would say!

[@thedemonslayer751]

​​@@shamshulanuar7718 butthurt Malay who just realized all of their culture is Indonesian 😂

[@aikoyoshikawa7910]

So true😂...

[@diosundoro5019]

Every disputed SEAsian food ever: 🇸🇬: mine! 🇲🇾: mine! 🇮🇩: we have the manuscripts

[@detempoedoeloekoken]

Do you know the first recorded " rendang" is from Malaysia , hikayat melayu Amir Hamzah in year 1500's ?

[@armynator8105]

@@detempoedoeloekoken thanks to Minangkabau people moved to Negeri Sembilan in the 14th century

[@ezra1588]

​@@detempoedoeloekoken Hikayat amir hamzah bukan hanya ada berbahasa melayu saja. Ada bahasa jawa,dll. Dan faktanya,semua hikayat melayu yang ada di malaysia semua adalah salinan dari abad 19. Tak pernah di temukan hikayat2 lain yang lebih tua dari abad 19. Yang namanya salinan,dah pasti dah ada edit dari penyalinnya

[@_xylans]

​@@detempoedoeloekoken HAH menceritakan kisah kisah termasuk mereka yang merantau dari Minangkabau ke Malaka. kegiatan merendang yang adalah budaya Minangkabau sudah dilakukan orang Minang sebelum dituliskan dalam HAH.

[@diosundoro5019]

@@detempoedoeloekoken mon maap...Hikayat Amir Hamzah bukan cuma bahasa Melayu, ada bahasa Jawa juga. Pernah denger Wayang Menak?

[@energihijau]

Akhirnya CNA insider mau mempertegas dari mana cendol sesungguhnya berasal.... terima kasih atas kerja keras tim CNA .🎉🎉🎉

[@bagussamudra7747]

Ini contoh kerja obyektif ga pandang latar belakang. Coba kalau dikerjain org sendiri dikasi bumbu2 mitos/legenda ga ya 🤔

[@Bersatuindonesiaku]

@@bagussamudra7747di apresiasi sendiri juga😂😂🎉🎉🎉 ngakak emang

Even without all the Javanese manuscripts, it's very easy to say that cendol must not have come from Malaysia nor Singapore. Their version of cendol is always served on shaved ice, which is only possible by means of modern-day freezers.

[@untadagang6172]

True. So much true. Ice in tropical country is a biggest clue.

[@indong444]

traditional cendol not serving with ice, its like a bubur or pengat

[@untadagang6172]

@@indong444 they use bowl from coconut? It's similar to how they serve in Java before. Not only cendol, but also wedhang sereh, and many kind of hot drinks

[@indong444]

@@rrsharizam who care about you

[@untadagang6172]

@@rrsharizam Thai pretty similar with malay and indo food, except the sourness maybe. Arab food was good too but not for a long time, for me at least.

[@Ffdipedie]

the beginning of the problem was because Singapore and Malaysia incorporated Javanese into what they called Malay, even though Malays and Javanese had never been one name. Malays are Malays, and Javanese are Javanese. Incorporating Javanese into Malay is a political decision by Malaysia to make the Malay community a majority compared to Chinese and Indians in the country. You can see Javanese people everywhere will still be Javanese, in Suriname, New Caledonia, the Netherlands and others, they are not called Malay, and they don't even know what Malay is. because of Malaysia's racial concept, there are many disputes, Malaysians feel that all ethnicities in Indonesia are the same as them, and ethnicities in Indonesia, on the other hand, do not feel the same. because they actually differ in culture, language, culinary and even religion. Malaysia's racial concept has destroyed ethnic harmony in Southeast Asia. not only degrading Chinese and Indians under Malay supremacy, but also considering there are no other ethnicities, there are only Malays. Even though the Malays are an ethnic minority with around 40 million worldwide, it is too few to be what they claim to be a Malay race. There is no concept of the Malay race outside of Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei. because Southeast Asia is an Austronesian society as a sub-Mongoloid RACE

[@Ix-.-xI]

the "40 million" itself is so vague and I would say delusional, since the Malaysian authority counted every Indonesian-origin ethnics (such as Minangkabau, Javanese, Banjar, Palembang, etc) as "Malaysian Malays". For those who didn't know, the people lived in Johore, Selangore and Perak are Javanese in origin, the people in Negeri Sembilan are Minangkabau, the people in Malacca are mixed of Palembang and Javanese, not to mention that the people in Kelantan, Terengganu, Kedah and Perlis are of Thai and Palembang descent. And in the Malaysian-occupied state of Sarawak they counted the Iban as "Malay" as well, the "Malay population" outside of Indonesia is so dubious, only Indonesia who had the real number of Malay population because they really count the real Malays not politically fake one.

[@lil_jong-un6668]

​@@Ix-.-xIMemang aneh konsep Malaysia ini. Kalau negara bekas jajahannya Inggris pasti masalah sosialnya kalau gak agama, ya rasisme. Suku Melayu disana merasa jadi minoritas, insecure, makanya suka membesar-besarkan diri sendiri baik secara politik maupun di kolom komentar 😂 Parpol di Malaysia pun banyak yang dibentuk atas nama ras, jadi segregasi ras disana cukup kental dibandingkan Indonesia.

[@dindachancamui3508]

@@lil_jong-un6668 itulah kalo nama negara pake salah satu ras (Malay), jadinya ada perbedaan ras disana yg ketara banget, kayak misalnya orang India sama China ga dianggep Melayu disana... Padahal kalo di Indonesia karena namanya Indo jadi ga merujuk ke satu suku atau ras tertentu, jadi yg China, India, Arab, dsb tetep sebutannya orang Indonesia

[@evanpasha]

UP

[@lil_jong-un6668]

@@dindachancamui3508 Iya, kalau dalam hal ini untungnya Indonesia jauh lebih baik dibanding Malaysia. Gua bersyukur disini gaada "ketuanan melayu" walaupun kalo berdasarkan kategori Malaysia gua termasuk "melayu". Partai pun disini gaada yang dibuat dari ras tertentu. Kalau di Malaysia, ada partai yang berlandaskan ras melayu, china, india, dll. Kalau di Indonesia yang beginian udah termasuk rasis banget.

[@annissabilaa]

Makasih banget sama para ahli di indonesia yang bener" mempelajari asal usul budaya indonesia sehingga dapat mempertahankan citranya 🥰

[@arizals]

Sebagai orang indonesia, sebenarnya kami bangga apabila makanan indonesia juga dapat dinikmati oleh negara-negara lain. Tetapi apabila makanan tersebut diklaim oleh negara-negara lain, maka kami merasa tidak rela. Oleh karena bagi kami makanan tidak hanya sebuah masakan, tetapi juga warisan dari nenek moyang kami

[@MuhammadAthallahArsyaf]

The overwhelming feeling of satisfaction when the Indian vendor uttered the word ‘Java’ when asked about the origin, and he was able to give a simple justification on why it didn’t come from India 😂

[@Ffdipedie]

Hny org melayu malaysia yg HALU, semua milik melayu. Pdhl bangsa yg tdk menghasilkan apa2..

[@ikhwannurdin9116]

​@@Ffdipedietdk usah saling menghina bang bahs indo juga kan akar nya dari bhs melayu dan kita sama sama satu ras

[@mr.cannedble9724]

@@Ffdipedie india dan indon sama2 kaki claim..pentaksub bontot hindu

[@lil_jong-un6668]

Seluruh budaya dan makanan ini kalau dibiarin gitu aja pasti semuanya diklaim Malaysia. Semua peradaban asalnya dari Malaysia😂

[@muktiyes8154]

Singapow dan Melayu tidak punya lagunya. Sedangkan Java punya lagunya cendol dawet.

[@Therizinosaurus]

Kudos for the Indian cendol seller for actually telling the truth and doing his research. It's from Java, Indonesia. The oldest document for Cendol is from Java, Indonesia. You can look it up on Google, numerous sites mentioned this, doesn't take even 10 seconds to find one. Indonesian immigrants brought the recipe to Malaysia and Singapore. Then spread to Neighboring ASEAN countries like Thailand, etc. Funny how native Malaysian are the ones barking the loudest about how it's their food.

[@piterkristianto5647]

we have fact cendol from Indonesia 😁👍

[@ketsukesaputra-zc8xy]

Bukanya dawet kalo daerah jawa

[@sitinurjannahnaim2990]

Funny how Indonesian think nasi Goreng are native

[@donpepito928]

malon mmg spt syka klaim dan tidk mau mengakui

[@piterkristianto5647]

@@sitinurjannahnaim2990 everyone agrees nasi goreang / fried rice / chao fan is chinese culinary brought by chinese diaspora to southeast asia and other part of the world

[@koplak2031]

Yang hebat itu orang INDIA..dia tidak meng clamp punya india. Tapi dia bilang dari JAVA..begitulah kalau dr negara yg memiliki banuak budaya..dia bangga dgn bidayanya dan tak suka mengakui budaya orang lain..SALUT buat ORANG INDIA

[@pesmobile-lh5fs]

Kalau identitas mereka ada dan budaya banyak ngapain claim punya orang 😂 yg aneh tu bangsa imigran banyak dan beranak anakan bapaknya jualan dan diclaim orang sono 😂😂

[@Ffdipedie]

India punya tradisi dan budaya yg sangat tua, mereka tdk bingung miliknya sendiri . Beda dg bangsa malaysial palsu, ngaku melayu dan islam tp klaim punya jawa,sunda,bali dll..

[@armayusufefendy7416]

Malahan makanan India kaya nasi kandar, dan roti canai diklaim asli Malaysia

[@IzzaUlya]

​@@armayusufefendy7416hahaha iya juga yaaa 😂

[@deanbowie3774]

Untuk apa mengklaim punya India, jika kau baca sejarah lagi, orang Nusantara punya aspek local genius, ada kecenderungan keinginan asimilasi & akulturasi ketimbang mengadopsi budaya luar secara full tanpa filter. Orang India sendiri asing dengan konsep makanan Nusantara, mereka lebih terpengaruh makanan dr Asia. Apa di Indonesia tdk ada makanan yg aslinya bkn dr Nusantara? Ada, tapi kita tidak mengklaim itu asli Indonesia, seperti Bakpao, Taocho, Bakso, dan msh byk lagi. Tapi lihatlah Malaysia, kalian mengklaim roti canai & teh tarik asli malaysia, sungguh aneh & cacat logika.

[@nowsewing3543]

Bangsa yang baik adalah bangsa yang menghargai asal-usul sebuah budaya.

[@irmansyahfii1228]

Itulah kenapa sejarah harus dijaga dan dihormati, bukan hanya sekedar membangun ekonomi tetapi aspek sejarah dilupakan

[@luceindeep5879]

JASMERAH

[@Nusantara455]

Tanya ke malaysia sejarah saya di buat buat tanpa dasar yang kuat hanya asumsi apalagi pahlawan kemerdekaan.

[@soesuhada7080]

@@luceindeep5879 Betul sekali 👍 Bukannya nyolong punya tetangga ya 😂

[@lysu80]

Iya bener... dari nama'a aja cendol..ya Indonesia bgt..Jawa

[@M_Daniel7777]

@@Nusantara455 ngak punya budaya.. nyolong budaya sankrit dari india. Skrg ngaku ngaku punya sdiri..Ngak punya malu.. muka tembok 🤣🤣

[@yitnawulan5672]

i love singaporean people, they know how to accept the fact.

[@zmsd7405]

Yes , as a Singaporean i've no problem with it but most Malaysians just wanna claim everything when it comes to food.

[@ekymuharrahman8782]

Mereka sadar kalau budaya mereka itu campuran, jadi mereka gak bisa asal klaim. Beda dengan sebelahnya yg dia kira semua yg dia lihat sehari2 itu budaya nya, gak sadar kalau dia memulai manuskrip dari kerajaan Melaka yg mana kerajaan itu jauh lebih muda dari kerajaan di Indonesia.

[@RiveriaAllas]

Budaya Singapore campuran dari Adat sekitar indo & malay & Dari Chinese

[@piuswspiusws]

agree ...

[@eastkidz]

Mereka "mengakui fakta", tapi mereka menjaga tradisi "resep" mereka turun-temurun sampai 3 generasi patut diapresiasi, bahkan di indonesia sudah sangat jarang bisnis kuliner sampai 3 generasi.

[@kitarvin770]

Cendol is mentioned in the Kresnayana manuscript, which dates back to the 12th century Kediri Kingdom, in Java.

[@nagawahyudi]

cendol = dipencet ngajendol.... its sundanese

[@rhyzlutkemeyer1712]

HOAX !! It is DAWET.

[@omsenang7397]

Dawet

[@seminky5341]

Ofcz......typical indonesian

[@user-js9dx5kt8p]

​@@nagawahyudi cendol dari India gak usah sok claim Indon sikit2 mau claim.nasi goreng bakmie tahu bakwan Lumpia bakso terang bulan dan banyak lagi dari China di claim sama Indon 😊

[@prameksense]

🇸🇬: "Ours!" 🇲🇾: "No, it's ours!" 🇮🇩: "Look at this 15th century patent"

[@pessiescobar4707]

Lol Indon literally begging for money in those 2 countries

[@Heavenlyrules]

Not 15th century. Its 9th century even ❤!

[@Jevandrixx]

Malaysians and Singaporeans are notorious in claiming this and that, its a distinctive trait shared by both people. Vast majority of the food are originated from India, China, Thai and Indonesia. As a Malaysian-Indian it boils my blood when someone introduces me to poori, roti canai, kuih loyang , dederam and putu (to name a few) as Malaysian food.

[@Ray-qh9cm]

I know right

[@danuaditya642]

At least, they will say those are Indian-descendants Malaysian food. For Indonesian food, they will say those are Malay food, even food from ethnicity other than Malay.

[@Ix-.-xI]

China, India, and Indonesia (the three largest countries in the world by population) has always been so influential for both Malaysian and Singaporean in a lot of aspects (which also including culinary tradition), even the Malays are originally from Sumatra (an Indonesian island) yet they denied their origin simply due to their snobbish _Ketuanan Melayu_ (Malaysian Malays Supremacy). I always feel disgusted when someone put a "Malaysian food" label yet none of it are Malaysia in origin.

[@bisvizstudio1242]

Agreed. Like us Indonesians can't never claim Siomay, Bakpau, or Mie as Indonesian food because it's originally Chinese food.

[@omds259]

@@bisvizstudio1242 Yess, and we dont change the name, XiaoMai, BakPao, Mee

[@robbyburnpipe7840]

I'm from Sarawak. And I absolutely sure that Indonesia are the 1st to introduce Cendol in Malaysia.

[@6651t]

Ya iyalah ajing pake nanya, jngn lupa rendang kau klaim

[@Ffdipedie]

Karena fakta dan bukti tdk ada org melayu semenanjung imigrasi ke jawa..justru org jawa imigrasi ke semenanjung membawa budaya dan kulinernya.. sayangnya org jawa di malaysia diklaim jd melayu. Sedangkan org jawa di suriname,kaledonia baru dan lainnya tetap jadi orang jawa .

[@BStarBayu]

​@@Ffdipedieya memang begitu bagian semenanjing, semua mereka claim Melayu pemalazzz, namanya saja Malaydesh, trashh , krisis identitas

[@aaa08_]

Tpi bedanya orng jawa di Malaysia semua nya gk goblok kek lelehur nya soekarno​@@Ffdipedie

[@gingerteddy618]

​@J_eunyoung 🌏 Sumber dari *kemendikbud indonesia* menyatakan bahawa: 👇 Melawan lupa : Awal mula kerajaan di Jawa Barat Oleh: Nandang Rusnandar (BPNB Jabar) Awal mula berkembangnya kerajaan di Jawa Barat tidak lepas dari peran seorang tokoh yang sangat dihormati, yaitu Aki Tirem. Menurut Pangeran Wangsakerta dkk, *Aki Tirem* adalah seorang *Penghulu* atau penguasa daerah pesisir Jawa Barat bagian barat. Aki Tirem disebut juga Aki Luhur Mulya, putrinya bernama Pohaci Larasati yang diperistri oleh Sang Dewawarman. ☝️ 🌷 Aki adalah Bahasa Melayu yang bermaksud datuk. 🌷 Penghulu adalah Bahasa Melayu yang bermaksud ketua atau pemimpin. ☝️ Ada yang disembunyikan oleh indonesia tetapi pasti terbongkar. FAKTA dari kemendikbud indonesia. Aki Tirem berasal dari Kerajaan Langkasuka iaitu kerajaan Melayu di Semenanjung. Naskah rajya-rajya i Bhumi Nusantara menyebut bahawa orang dari Langkasuka menetap dari Utara Pulau Sumatera sampai ke Selatan Pulau Sumatera. Salasilah orang Sumatera dan Jawa itu berasal dari Kerajaan Langkasuka iaitu kerajaan Melayu di Semenanjung.🌏 Sumber dari *kemendikbud indonesia* menyatakan bahawa: 👇 Melawan lupa : Awal mula kerajaan di Jawa Barat Oleh: Nandang Rusnandar (BPNB Jabar) Awal mula berkembangnya kerajaan di Jawa Barat tidak lepas dari peran seorang tokoh yang sangat dihormati, yaitu Aki Tirem. Menurut Pangeran Wangsakerta dkk, *Aki Tirem* adalah seorang *Penghulu* atau penguasa daerah pesisir Jawa Barat bagian barat. Aki Tirem disebut juga Aki Luhur Mulya, putrinya bernama Pohaci Larasati yang diperistri oleh Sang Dewawarman. ☝️ 🌷 Aki adalah Bahasa Melayu yang bermaksud datuk. 🌷 Penghulu adalah Bahasa Melayu yang bermaksud ketua atau pemimpin. ☝️ Ada yang disembunyikan oleh indonesia tetapi pasti terbongkar. FAKTA dari kemendikbud indonesia. Aki Tirem berasal dari Kerajaan Langkasuka iaitu kerajaan Melayu di Semenanjung. Naskah rajya-rajya i Bhumi Nusantara menyebut bahawa orang dari Langkasuka menetap dari Utara Pulau Sumatera sampai ke Selatan Pulau Sumatera. Salasilah orang Sumatera dan Jawa itu berasal dari Kerajaan Langkasuka iaitu kerajaan Melayu di Semenanjung. Sudah ribuan tahun Bahasa Melayu tersebar sampai indonesia. Fakta dari Universitas Riau. 💐 Dengan masuk dan berkembangnya agama Islam di Kesultanan Melaka merupakan cikal bakal berkembangnya agama Islam di Nusantara, hal ini karena Kesultanan Melaka merupakan aspek penting dalam kehidupan masyarakat di Nusantara. Karena dari kawasan Melaka pemakaian bahasa dan penyebaran kebudayaan Melayu Islam tersebar hampir ke seluruh kawasan Nusantara. Apa yang kita gunakan sebagai alat komunikasi di Nusantara saat ini merupakan hasil yang positif dari keagungan Melaka sebagai jantung kebudayaan Melayu Islam di Nusantara. 🔎Petikan dari kajian peneliti Indonesia iaitu Khairul Amin, Ridwan Melay dan Drs Kamaruddin dari Universiti Riau. 🔎Tajuk kertas kajian adalah Malacca Sultanate Role in Developing the Teaching of Islam in Riau and Riau Islands. ❤ Fakta: ✅️ Bahasa Melayu berkembang dari Semenanjung ke serata Nusantara atas jasa Kesultanan Melaka. ✅️ Budaya Melayu dari Semenanjung yang menyebar dari Kesultanan Melaka ke serata Nusantara. ✅️ Melaka adalah jantung kebudayaan Melayu Islam di Nusantara. ✅️ Bahasa Melayu dari Semenanjung yang menjadi cikal bakal berkembangnya Bahasa Melayu dan agama Islam di Nusantara.

[@tessaayuningtyassugito4041]

When I was 9-month-old baby, in 1990 my parents opened Central Javanese Restaurant in West Jakarta. Weirdly enough they named the restaurant Pondol-Pondok Es Cendol despite the fact that we serve varieties of Central Javanese Cuisines. Almost 33 years later, we are still standing serving premium Cendol (you can choose varieties of toppings in our rest.; durian, kopyor/macapuno, young coconut, jackfruit, tape ketan/fermented glutinous rice, even ice cream for more modern twist) and other traditional Central Javanese desserts. My brother and I are beyond grateful for this humble dessert. Ocean of Cendol literally paid our tuition fee in Europe & US. I came back from Finland after graduating as a food scientist to help my dad running the business since 2015, after my mom passed away. Feel free to come by and try our version of Cendol. Since both of my parents are from Central Java, our cendol is considered Dawet, slightly different from the Cendol from Bandung. For more firm chewy texture, we use mainly mungbean flour instead of rice flour. Thank you CNA Insider for making this. Truly interesting & elaborate research about Cendol.

[@nancywibowo8632]

Terus sekarang PONDOL pindah ke mana ? Dulu yg di jl muwardi/ susilo terus pindah ke tanah abang jl musi ?

[@tessaayuningtyassugito4041]

@@nancywibowo8632 yang di Muwardi masih kok. Pusatnya kan mmg yang di Grogol 😀.

[@nancywibowo8632]

@@tessaayuningtyassugito4041 thanks, kalo lewat nanti mampir deh.

[@bosansekali898]

You make a killer sate ambal. Thank you for still serving the difficult to find gempol pleret too.

[@tessaayuningtyassugito4041]

@@nancywibowo8632 Siapppp, ditunggu Kak Nancy, baru buka lagi 2 May 2023 karena masih libur lebaran.

[@StayAboveTheFray]

I really like your enthusiasm for finding traces of the authenticity of something, in this example it is cendol. This is the same technique that educated people use to prove whether a hypothesis is accepted or not, in fact curiousity requires you to travel to where the primary or secondary evidence lies. Thank you, you have taught people about seeing things correctly

[@giraffestreet]

If you want to talk about origin, without a doubt cendol is from Java. But we can't deny that there are other variations of the same dish being recreated in other places.

[@jonyongkkkl5119]

It's like pasta and pizza origin from Italy, but other countries make it better than Italy with a lot of flavours. Italian only sticks to traditional and less likely to explore different variations.

[@ynnos5555]

But if we dig deeper shaved ice desserts in Southeast Asia can be traced back to China & Japan.

[@minj9738]

the worst being sg as usual

[@rhyzlutkemeyer1712]

Javanese is DAWET, Cendol is shaved ice dessert, While Javanese DAWET is hot beverage

[@Geekoo85]

​@@rhyzlutkemeyer1712 That's not true, traditional Javanese dawet is both hot and cold

[@mirao1782]

"-Singaporean, Malaysian, or Javanese?" As a Javanese myself, I appreciate your recognition on our country

[@oktabramantio4709]

Republik Jawa Serikat

[@frory1755]

​@@oktabramantio4709Jawa adalah koenci.

[@alvheygamer5813]

​@@frory1755 Loh, Gak bahaya ta 🗿🙏

[@DBT1007]

*jawanese Jangan suka ikut ejaan english yg cacat. Itu tuh bahasamu. Harusnya kau kenalkan ejaan yg baik dan benar. Bukannya malah ngikut2 pengejaan bodoh mereka. Apa lagi? Nanti kau eja Krakatau sebagai Krakatoa? Maluku dijadiin Mollucas?

[@event1idro-bn8fq]

​@@alvheygamer5813kenapa bahaya?

[@nurfikaosman2363]

Finally, we have someone like Ming really tracing back the origin of cendol, one of Indonesia's most loved desserts!

[@alphazar]

I’m Malaysian. There’s a famous cendol shop in my hometown run by an Indian Muslim. His shop was the oldest cendol shop around, since before merdeka. One day the newspaper published an interview with the owner of the cendol shop. He said his late father learned to make cendol in Java, his father then migrated to Malaya and opened a cendol stall in the 1930’s. The cendol shop owner still keeps the newspaper, laminated and displayed proudly.

[@IndriaTanti]

Orang India kang copy paste apalagi orang kalian ngaku ngaku cendol punya kalian 👎 Padahal sebutan disini *dawet* punya Orang Djawa/ Indonesia

[@alphazar]

@@IndriaTanti di Malaysia ramai migran dari Jawa yang sudah 3-4 generasi di sini. Mereka bawa sekali budaya dan makanan Jawa dan telah tersebar sejak berpuluh tahun, contohnya cendol, batik, sate dsb, tapi telah diolah semula sesuai dengan citarasa Malaysia. Cendol dicatatkan telah ada di Malaya sejak 1920'an.

[@liammoye5238]

@@alphazar YA BERARTI LU GA BACA HISTORI MONYET MALAYDESHH !!!! DAH TAU DARI INDO KENAPA GA SEBUT DARI INDO MALAH KLAIM TOLOOOL SONO KLAIM BANGLA KUALA DHAKA BANYAK NOH WKWKWKWKWKW

[@liammoye5238]

MALAYDESH ANJIIING KAU NEGARA SIALAN MALONTE TUKANG KLAIM BUDAYA INDO. JELAS2 MAKANAN INDO BERLIMPAH MALONDESH KLAIM NASI KANDAR INDIA, RENDANG INDO, CENDOL, BATIK NEGARA KRISIS IDENTITAS EMG GOBLOG MALAYDESH SONO KLAIM BANGLA MINI DHAKA DI KUALA DHAKA KWKWKWKWKW

[@Deadmanq]

​@@alphazarThat's the same as you claiming our culture, do you know that the country of Suriname is located in South America? Many of them were Javanese forced laborers from the Dutch era and they never even said that all Javanese culture was Surinamese culture, they even still believed that it was a hereditary inheritance from their motherland country, Indonesia. Keep barking our beloved neighbour haha

[@landove1486]

Java is one very old civilization from millennia ago, continuously lives and evolves up until now. It never really vanishes, even at the peak of Dutch colonization, some kingdoms were still resisting to preserve Javanese cultures. So no surprise that many of its creations were adopted by other ethnics in Nusantara, just like Cendol.

[@ethos-]

Javanese is not the oldest civilization in nusantara. Maybe get a proper history lesson? 😂 cendol bring to asean by the trader from china

[@givemeusernameplease6201]

Oldest civilization is in malay peninsula

[@lukmanakbar953]

​@@givemeusernameplease6201mana ada catatan dan peninggalan kuno sedangkan melayu sendiri pengistilhan dari bangsa eropa...saya tidak mengenal melayu itu terkecuali kata NUSANTARA yg di perkenalkan kerajaan SINGOSARI dan diteruskan MAJAPAHIT.. penduduk pribumi semenanjung aja cuma 11juta sisanya bangsa indi dan china..mungkinkah penduduk semenanjung akan hilan seperti penduduk temasik pribumu.. Lihat bangsa penerus NUSANTARA(indonesia) 94% asli pribumi dan kau berkaca pada kaca anda bahwa di negara anda keturunan indonesia ramai sekali itu berlaku di singapura dan malaysia.. Dan universitas anda kalau merujukan tentang asal usul pribumi anda tetap harus ke indonesia

[@givemeusernameplease6201]

@@lukmanakbar953 Itu tidak benar. Itu adalah hoax yg dipercayai oleh para indon. Semenanjung dan sumatera tak pernah di bawah majapahit. Keturunan indon di malaysia tak ramai.. kebanyakan nya keturunan babu dari pulau jawa yg sampai di abad ke 19. Mereka ramai yg tinggal di batu pahat, johor dan banting, selangor.

[@titoharimurti8363]

@@givemeusernameplease6201 Berdebatlah dengan, paleojavanicus, homo soloensis, homo wajakensis, Candi Candi, prasasti, keramik keramik,Bahasa dan tulisan jawa, penanggalan jawa, jangan amatiran, ujung medini istilah orang jawa sebelum british sebut malay peninsula,

[@indonesia6285]

Bukan mau rasis, tapi turunan India lebih jujur dan terpercaya baik yang di malay maupun di Singapore. Video ini buktinya Bener kan!

[@peacechan4500]

I found it interesting that in Singapore and Malaysia cendol is a shave ice dessert. While Indonesian cendol is basically Indonesian bubble milk drink

[@xueueux]

True!! My mom and I had discussed this before when Boba milk tea become the it thing. My mom said "Ay!! How stupid we are!! We have cendol!! That's the true boba milk drink" 😂😂😅😅

[@dindachancamui3508]

Do you think we can popularize it to the world like boba? Boba is from Taiwan right? But it became an international food/drink

[@ernaherlina8014]

We do also have that shaved ice version, but we don't call the whole drink as 'cendol' anymore, we call it es campur. Cendol only become part of the ingredient, not the star.

[@xueueux]

Yeah..for Indonesian cendol is the green "rice jelly"..it can be drink with coconut milk and gula jawa or can be ingredients of ice shaved called es campur

[@ayumihamano5091]

Bener Tampilannya kaya es serut, kalo di indo ya kaya minuman Boba gitu 😅

[@ap2keren]

I do appreciate your efforts to proof something that looks so simple but actually not, thanks to these, the food origins war cooled down right away. Awesome, keep up this channel bro!

[@editorizal]

Terima kasih CNA atas objektifitas anda. Maka sekarang kami lebih percaya diri menghadapi Malaysia jika mereka mengklaim Cendol. 😂

[@hanggaraaryagunarencagutuh7072]

Orang-orang Malaysia dan mengklaim berpisah tiada

[@pesmobile-lh5fs]

Semua hal yang akan di kenal dunia mereka claim 😂😂😂 dan ramai ramai angkat kemedia walaupun dari arti namanya saja sudah ketahuan dari mana itu berasal, mereka.lebih mengangkat pendapat yg seperti menguntungkan mereka tidak objektif jadi masyarakat mereka seperti bodoh kalau melihat dunia luar karna ketidaktahuan itu 😢😢😢😢

[@riyantowibowo1132]

Appreciate CNA to seek and publish the truth about the origin of cendol 😊

[@minj9738]

how about kaya toast and teh c? LOL, why does sg always need to quickly publicise or open shop selling things that arent theirs but market it off as their own? or commonly sg-based

[@adibbekti4725]

@@minj9738 whenever I visit Kopitiam, it always had that on the menu

[@SuperValue350]

@@minj9738 because they are from sg? why are you so triggered lol?

[@rrsharizam]

Malaysian food always taste better than indon. Food ranking in SE Asia: 1. 🇹🇭 2. 🇲🇾 3. 🇸🇬 4. 🇮🇩 5. 🇵🇭

[@raflywiryonavianto4953]

​​​@@rrsharizammalaysian food always better than Indonesia Food according to mainstream media 🤓☝️

[@yueliew95]

When the Chinese Malaccan and Penangnite married Javanese (and Malay) to form what is known as Peranakan, the Javanese bride/groom brought the Cendol knowledge with them. The Melaka cendol seller mentioned cendol was for happy occasions (but doesn't know its from Java) which resonate with the video later showing Dawet was serve at Java weddings...My great grandma was a Malaccan peranakan and often told us cendol was from our Java ancestors side...

[@yueliew95]

​​@@adhityamulyaandhika please learn to be polite.

[@Cmi1267]

@@yueliew95 what does SINGKEK mean?

[@feniusfarsaid1781]

​@@adhityamulyaandhika look! This is the example of average Javanese people. You can see by his name, so Javanese. He has no attitude at all

[@nese8727]

​@@adhityamulyaandhika klo lu? Fankui ya😂

[@nese8727]

​@@Cmi1267 singkek (新客） is a term originally used by peranakans in Melaka and Java to refer to new Chinese immigrants who came and mostly did hard labor in the cities. Now the native Javanese used the word for racist connotation😢

[@adriansawahyupramudita1565]

I bet Malaysian will say gula melaka is from Malaysia, while it's actually from India. Malaysian being Malaysian

[@yuk4z3]

Gula Melaka is widely known sugar in SEA countries including Thailand, Malaysia, Phillipines and Indonesia. It’s just Palm sugar. Definitely did not originate from India 😂😂

[@pessiescobar4707]

Oh yeah while you Indonesian claiming everything on green earth

[@Jeffiswinner]

The real name is Palm Sugar

[@Waddidaw-w9b]

Di Indonesia menyebut gula Jawa, gula aren, orang Jawa sering menyebut "gulo Abang" dalam bahasa Indonesia "gula merah" Orang Jawa bahkan tidak tahu istilah gula malaka

[@soydelasfilipinas]

100% it's from Java. My grandma cooks it for us as an afternoon snack to be eaten around 1-4 PM but we call it "sindul" in tausug, the people of Sulu in southern philippines. We used to have this during special occasions and rituals ceremonies but ours is not made of ice but rather served hot boiled in coconut milk, tapioca jellies, banana, jackfruits, yams, and glutinuous rice.

[@Heavenlyrules]

Well solot or sulu now was a apart of majapahit. Cendol, Kris you name it. Our culture inevitably spread long before European touched philippine

[@mrMDyasn]

Ok. Noted with thanks.

[@derryntumorang5485]

It's great that the people of the Philippines are preserving this culinary delight, and not forgetting its origins 🇮🇩🤍🇵🇭

[@Regis_ru]

My grandma also cooks it for me and I'm from Malaysia. Your ingredients are very different with ours so idk why you think we're talking about the same thing

[@Do2mifasol-nh3lq]

@@Regis_ru It's same thing Only topping are different and old school of cendol served with no ice.

[@nonienandya6585]

I'm laughing so hard when she said : this is cendol tree. NOPE, that is just another pandan tree. we javanese calls it PANDAN SUJI , the purpose is for coloring food. Cendol / DAWET not the only dish that need green coloring 🤣🤣, so logically, the name is not cendol tree. If the name is cendol tree, then its's only for cendol coloring, rite? 🥲🥲 The common pandan tree(fragrant pandan) is NOT FOR COLORING, though some use that for color.

[@nancywibowo8632]

You right its daun suji for coloring food

[@malikasaja1131]

Cendol and dawet r two different dessert tho😅

[@syarifsupriatna13]

@@malikasaja1131basically it’s the same

[@malikasaja1131]

@@syarifsupriatna13 its not, dawet has simple ingredient than cendol, usually dawet only use gula jawa, jeruk purut, water and ice for the soup, the dawet itself is white. Cendol in the other hand usualy has santan in the soup, the condiment also varied like in this video,

[@yadilbeddu4832]

that is DAUN SUJI yes correct...to green color the food

[@Wulandhaary_]

It wasn't Cendol leaves 😄it was Suji leaves, yet similar with Pandan leaves. However, now we know that Cendol originated in Java, Indonesia.

[@benondervick]

Itu karena ketidaktahuan mereka dan turun temurun kakak,harap maklum. Beruntung ketemu si india yg bilang cendol mulai dikenal di gang jawa,karena yg mulai orang jawa dan kakeknya menjual cendol yg terkenal itu,lalu orang2 india lain mengikutinya smpe tersohor nama cendol,dan org chinese mengikutinya dan bilang cendol berasal dari orang india 😭😭😅😅😅 so laugh

[@arifff5185]

​@@benondervickpada from msia jawo ngaku malu xda2. muke jowo wajar jawa mati saja.

[@yafiyanuarekasatria6181]

@@benondervick sampe ribut netizen singapura sama malaysia berebut cendol makanan mereka, ujung2 nya yg punya Indonesia 🤣🤣🤣

[@poppymeyrizka1005]

They (especially Malasiya) difficult to accept the reality, they will continue to bark that this "Cendol" is often found in the ASEAN region and even Asia. However, what is clear is that the word "tjendol" comes from Dutch, not British. 🙊🙈🙉

[@joeysamaranch3273]

I really love how this channel turns the fight of heritage into something beautiful and interesting to know about. Its no longer about who owns it, but how we embrace that into something richer and give access to everyone to re-create their own version of cendol. Nevertheless, each of us made the original cendol even better. Awesome. Tho I myself is Indonesian, but I'm sure i wanna try Singaporean and Malaysian version of cendol.

[@ysfchannel8380]

Namanya aja cendol😂😂 Javanese accent

[@heldahelda1314]

It's important to know who owns it originally. Starting from the naming, where it came from, how the idea or the origin recipe was made first, and the origin ingredients...the fact that it evolves n is used n modified in different countries, it's another story to tell. Which is okay. but to CLAIM it as theirs, that's NOT okay...They can claim their versions of Cendol, but they cant claim they own it first, especially the difference is only by adding one topping on it like red beans, doesnt change its origin taste and ingredients. When they claimed nasi lemak, am okay with it. Eventho it tastes like nasi uduk, Indonesian's version, but nasi lemak has its own version. So they can claim it as theirs. I dont mind. But for cendol, rojak (malay's claim), and the palm sugar (gula JAWA) as theirs, not a chance. They've been claiming many of Indonesia's heritages as theirs like children claiming their toys. That's not cool at all... Like Nasi goreng, i believe it's originally from China. They invented it first. They own it first. But we modified it to be our own version, which is different from its origin, from the condiment, topping, spices, especially the crackers added to it, all different. That's why we get the recognition for nasgor as ours. Also rendang, it's originally from India, curry food. But we modified it with our own condiment, spices, and moreover, we add new ingredient in it, coconut milk and sambal. That's what makes it different from its origin, that's why we can call it ours. i know living peacefully with our neighbours is very important, but being okay with everything they claim as theirs while it's ours, we need to set boundaries. *peace*

[@ricosubekti1450]

sama seperti pizza, terserah orang Amerika membuat Pizza versi mereka sendiri. tapi orang Amerika tidak akan pernah mengklaim Pizza dari Amerika. Pizza pastinya dari Italia 😂

[@samsungpj6469]

And only in Indonesia, we have Cendol Capuccino, do you know how mad Italian if they know how we screw they recipe?

[@ronnie5288]

Wisdom guy

[@janettamaryam5724]

As Javanese myself, I just laugh so hard watch this 😂

[@yudhisetyawan1134]

wong jowo koyok kene iki.. ngalah ae.. wes..

[@AbboyTopan]

me too!!!! lol

[@naikdaun2715]

arep cendol utowo dawet podo ae 😅

[@kelvinjulian6591]

Tulll seng waras ngalah, wes ben karep karep e wong²

[@tobz475]

Namanya aja dah cendol masih pada bingung asalnya wkwk

[@lauravogel6845]

As much as I do think that Indonesia and Malaysia are two siblings that got separated because of European influence, it still repulses me that Malays are claiming many of which originated from Java and other parts of Indonesia to have been derived from their sole origin. And I get the “Well we adopted some of yours and made a better variation out of it” stuff some people say as a justification but I think it’s still very essential that countries acknowledge the cultures they adopted it from instead of claiming it as their heritage. Italian people are chill when the world refers pizza to be one of American cuisine but you don’t see American people claiming pizza as their authentic food because then Italian people will start to get provoked, same case, honestly.

[@hh-et2cm]

This ^^^

[@riririri7957]

Well said

[@srinov9928]

True

[@ehem3274]

yep. like u can make ur own version of it but don't ever claim somethin from other ppl to be ur authentic

[@Y3llow_Submarin3]

Because Malay kind of denied their ancestors are from Indonesia. They said the are originally form Tanah Melayu.

[@mah.888]

Our culture is often taken under the pretext of shared culture, from the songs Halo Bandung, Reog, Rendang, and now Cendol has also been taken, instead of that, how about we take your territory? To share together.😂

[@arjunbaihaqy9496]

keren juga orang belanda dulu udah masukin cendol di ensiklopedia dan buku resep di tahun 1800😁, bukti ini udh kuat banget buat membuktikan asal cendol/dawet

[@ifounditigotit]

Is a good documentary show to proved that Chendol originally started from Java Indonesia 🇮🇩

[@zeroseven-v9t]

Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei are the kids of Indonesia. So all the roots of food are originally from Indonesia but Indonesian won't argue against them because now they have known those food are Indonesian as listed and registered, also the history behind it. From the name you can't deny it's Javanese,,thanks Malaysia and Singapore to bring our food to be one of your favourites, thanks CNA ❤

[@rapemap]

hmmm .... Indonesian here. But I think your point of "kids of Indonesia" is a bit too far. Well, Brunei, perhaps, since it is "pure" part of Malayosphere, but Malaysia and Singapore are nations of mixture, which some time felt strange to many Indonesians. To be honest, Malaysia and Singapore before 1970's were closer culturally to Indonesia than nowadays.

[@zeroseven-v9t]

@@rapemap it's just a saying for me according to the history, also, their independence day as well. Yeah, you're right about their cultural nowadays

[@dibo458]

Jgn kids jg dong ngab🗿☝

[@exoraturbo25]

no.. Melaka in Malaysia dated back since Hang Tuah in 1400s..that's hundred of years ago

[@alphacentauri6360]

Calm down gurll , it is not that serious.😅

[@tonidonat4603]

Original Name Cendol Is Dawet From Java Indonesia, I remember when I was little, I helped my grandmother sell dawet in 1975

[@IndoCropCirclesOfficial]

*THE FACT: Cendol originally comes from Java. In the past its name was "Dawet". Cendol is a name throughout Indonesia, in Java they still know Cendol as "Dawet" and it has been around since the kingdom era in Java, and backthen it's made without ice, even the sugar used is known for all Indonesian as "Javanese sugar" (gula Jawa), in English its called brown sugar. Even at traditional Javanese weddings until now, the bride's parents symbolically become Dawet (Cendol) sellers and distribute clay coins to all guests as a means of payment, which later all the coins are collected and considered a fortune for the bride and groom. Just like Laksa, it doesn't originate from Singapore, but from Bogor in West Java, which also existed hundreds of years ago, not from Singapore. Many Javanese immigrate to Singapore and Malaysia, they make culinary from where they come from and become popular there. And the recipe was passed down to the next generation until "it seemed" to have come from local Singapore or Malaysia's culinary , even though migrants from Java brought them there* _You won't believe what you don't know...._ -IndoCropCircles, telling you the truth.

[@ketsukesaputra-zc8xy]

CENDOL stands for DIPENCET NGAJENDOL (how to make traditional cendol) from Sundanese 😃 Brown sugar or Javanese sugar but in Sundanese we call it kawung sugar. The taste, shape and aroma of kawung sugar is very fragrant and has a distinctive sweet taste and differs slightly from dark chocolate 😉 The taste of ice cendol from Indonesia is much better When I saw the Malacca version of brown sugar, it was so pale, it was different from the original Sundanese SUGAR KAWUNG in the Sukabumi area, the color was so beautiful and the aroma was so good Es cendol has a friend named ice cingcau 😅 Ice grass jelly in my opinion is better because the taste of grass jelly is so extraordinary that it can crack in the mouth, soft, like dancing in the mouth😅 A little extra if you make cendol using natural dyes from pandan leaves, the results will be much better and more natural In addition, cendol from Indonesia usually uses pieces of jackfruit of a certain type to make the brown sugar liquid more aromatic Cendol-cenol= sunda Cendol-dawet= jawa

[@fladinararas]

"Dawet" itu minuman keseluruhannya yg udah dicampur santan dan gula aren, sedangkan "cendol" itu spesifik ke jelly hijaunya saja.

[@lolipedofin]

brown sugar != palm sugar/gula jawa/gula melaka.

[@julianapadlan9996]

Me born bogor , laksa banyak disini

[@frommentengtooldiessongs6335]

Bukan dari kata dawet. Dawet berasal dari Arab berrati tinta. Mksdnya juruh atau sirup coklat kehitaman mirip tinta

[@moh.zarkasih]

Finally, sudah dibukakan mata (informasi) yang selebar-lebarnya dari mana si asal usul hidangan cendol/dawet yang satu ini. Yups 🇮🇩

[@herurochadi494]

Saya baru tau kalau kata CENDOL itu adalah kosa kata JAWA atau JAVA word. Dari namanya saja kita sudah tau kalo kuliner ini asal dari mana ? Karena Malaysia dan Singapura, sama2 memakai kata CENDOL untuk kuliner ini dan tidak mengubah namanya dg bahasa Melayu atau bahasa cina.

[@mofb8331]

​@@herurochadi494 cendol itu dari bhsa sunda sebenarnya

[@cilikponpon]

@@mofb8331 artinya apa? karena dokumen yg ditemukan yaitu serat Chentini itu tahun 1100 an, di Jawa.... Sunda artinya apa? kl Jawa itu dari kata jendol jendol, karena dari ujung ke ujung ada besar kecil ga rata kl cendol lawas tanpa cetakan... Cendol aertinya apa di Sunda?

[@trendexplorer]

Soalnya Malaysia suka nyerang kalo ada makanan disebut asal Singapore. Padahal kuliner Malaysia juga mayoritas memang asalnya dari Indonesia. Singapore pun gak pernah claim makanan. Tapi Malaysia ini selalu ngajak ribut.

[@cilikponpon]

@@trendexplorer ah semua sama aja Indonesia jg demen claiming, lupa kah siomay diblg asli Indonesia gegara si siomay Bandung (pdhal jelas2 cmn makanan asimilasi dr budaya kuliner Cina Selatan) Atau kue terang bulan yg skrg kenapa entah disebut martabak manis (pdhal jelas2 nama aslinya Hok Lo Pan (terang bilan) yg asli kuliner org Hokkian) diblg kue asli Indonesia dari Tegal.... Jadi semua mah sama ajaaaaaaaaaa

[@nataschaadama9363]

Dawet is very populair in Suriname 🇸🇷….they don’t use pandan leaf because people hate the taste of pandan leaf. Instead they added Surinamese sirup. ( Suriname has a large Javanese population)

[@demetriogiriadithyaatmaja6450]

Aaaahhh this is interesting, many or is usual for Indonesian especially Javanese love Pandan , but why in Suriname hate pandan ?? Didn't pandan exist at there ?

[@nataschaadama9363]

@@demetriogiriadithyaatmaja6450 I don’t know. They have a specific, maybe Caribbean influenced, taste. The Dawet, like many of their dishes, is almost basic. It is a ice cold mixture, of kelapa, sirup and the strings ( cendol) made from maizena. Pandan didn’t exist when the first Javanese arrived in 1883. Maybe that’s why they omitted pandan.

[@melzzyzuniga5280]

@@demetriogiriadithyaatmaja6450 they do as its a tropical plant

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@melzzyzuniga5280 fyi, PM maleis ngeklaim yg di Suriname Melayu BUKAN Jawa loh wkwkwkwkwk 😂

[@demetriogiriadithyaatmaja6450]

@@nataschaadama9363 i see, thank you for your information

[@rifqimcr]

For all the people its really open for them to make Cendol internationally but whats more important here is to protect the culture that we have. Thankyou so much for this documentaries for shining out the origin of Cendol. Hope this become a lesson for those who claim without evidence👏🏻

[@suryadidjasman319]

As an Indonesian of Javanese ethnicity, I am happy that the taste of cendol can be accepted by many people.

[@fallenleaves1]

Setuju! Daripada ribut kenapa ga saling berbagi satu sama lain aja.

[@EvelynAnastasia-j2n]

@@fallenleaves1 Ga ada yang melarang cendol ada di malaysia atau di manapun, yang perlu diklarifikasi itu klaim sepihak dari negara krisis identitas itu, sejarah dan awal mulanya harus tahu dan dihargai

[@anggaadypratama7286]

I was really impressed by how he started the journey with a different story from internet claims and then store to store with related rumors and history and then brought him to the place of his origin. it's so related from the internet, to popular places of cendol in Malay from the first store they explain when they serve cendol that related to the origin story, to the Indian story and he went to the Indian store they told him it was from java, to popular chef in Indonesia and to real culture and history where they come from

[@farmasinema]

Simple research will show anyone the origin within 3 minutes. But he need to make 30 minutes video.

[@anggaadypratama7286]

@@farmasinema Yeah if you search on the internet you can get information that fast but is it credible and what's the proof? he proved to everyone the information is valid and credible from the source

[@UPIL.INDONESIA]

I love how CNA trace back Cendol historically until 12th century. SG & MY can't argue about 12th century thing, unless if they have strong historical proof on that. For us Indonesians, cendol is just the green jelly only. The entire dish with coconut milk and gula jawa/gula melaka, called dawet. In Singapore & Malaysia, the dish is called chendol. That's what I understood.

[@faizfauzann9040]

nooo, only javanese who called the entire dish as dawet. bcs for sundanese, cendol is not only the green jelly, but the entire dish is called cendol. meanwhile dawet is different thing here. its more simple in making and it doesnt shape like small jelly as cendol.

[@butterfox7442]

Javanese are the major ethnic group living in java and the island is Java not Sunda, so Javanese can dictate their culture and naming their dish as dawet

[@faizfauzann9040]

@@butterfox7442cant agree more! javanese is the most superior race. it is the majority and better than any ethnic groups in indo, it even can DICTATE their culture to others lmao. the world only revolves around javanese, without Javanese Indonesia will falling apart. 😌

[@dore3faso6sido]

@@butterfox7442 As Javanese We don't want to dictated other people. Ojo adigang adigung But Its what it is. Out ancestor too good They wrote so many inscription So we can learn

[@UPIL.INDONESIA]

@@faizfauzann9040 I'm Javanese, not Sundanese. Maybe there's something I don't know about cendol in Jawa Barat. But you get the point I'm trying to make. Malaysians and Singaporeans can't claim, because they don't have any inscription made of rock dated hundreds of years back that says anything about cendol. It's like you're doing a crime, but you've got CCTV proof.

[@sudiharno48]

When she showed in 4:55 it's not even called as Pandan leaves but it's actually Suji leaves with no smells & usually used as a natural food coloring. Pandan leaves very fragrance & aromatic......it's way diffrent things, I'm Javanese descendant & I'm proud to be Indonesia, never claim things without any proves

[@y3c]

won't be surprising if iconic dishes such as nasi lemak, laksa, rendang which both malaysia and singapore been laying claim for decades has indonesian roots, after all the founder of Malacca and the last king of Singapore (then-temasik) came from Sumatra

[@joMan1060]

people need to recognize where it is from. its like ramen, its popular and common in Singapore, but its Japanese food. like cendol, its popular in SG, but its Indo food

[@wennnnn2307]

@@joMan1060 just FYI , ramen is from China 😂. Of course Japanese made their own version of it but the word Ramen in Japanese are basically Kanjis (Chinese) that means pulled noodle.

[@jayzen76]

@@wennnnn2307 and the name ramen was very likely an adaptation of how the Japanese pronounced "la mien"

[@TheOrable5135]

@@joMan1060 the easiest way of recognising where cendol came from, it is a SE Asian thing, and as Asians ourselves we just used what was given to us and make it happen. Throughout history, we never asked ourselves "where did this 'green eyeless worms' come from". Every Asian culture has tried everything to sustain their kingdoms; while Europeans during Renaissance start questioning origins of everything, us Asians and our Equatorial kins around the globe find that "whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger" when it comes to preparing our meals with anything we could find in the forest. We were like Americans before the US was born in the field of foodstuff. So that's how cendol originated, it didn't sprung up from anywhere like Pretzels in... OK I will leave the guessing away, but it could either be European or Mediterranean whenever wheat flour came into the historical picture. So that's the mystery of food, food shouldn't always need to have an origin, it has always been here thru out history to give us the nutrients needed to remind us that "I'm edible. No need to break your heads over me!!! " . Thanks!

[@fafaoli718]

@Broski Snowski Malasyan can eat whatever they want.

[@simsgazytech2013]

In Indonesian each province has different type of cendol. My Fave is from Bandung because it has strong taste of leaf. but the best topping in Sumatra because they add Durian.

[@Rqxxytunbh]

love it with jackfruit 😊

[@herurochadi494]

I don't eat yet Cendol with durian topping.

[@aldinoruswandi]

My fave is from Kudus, it has the best topping and taste ever

[@celestialstar124]

Interesting. I hope to try the bandung version you mentioned. 😊

[@hadiw8]

Cendol Elizabeth no debate..

[@deniademunanda1674]

I do really appreciate the research of the CNA insider team. Well effort to present the history objectively & fairly. Good work 👏

[@kukukakikakakkukaku]

Hi, Indonesian here 😀👋🏼 Saya akan pake bahasa Indonesia saja. Sepertinya lewat fenomena ini, mengingatkan kepada bangsa kita kalau mempelajari Sejarah itu PENTING. Banyak sekali generasi muda kita yang cenderung mengabaikan bahkan mengaggap sepele untuk mempelajari sejarah bangsa Indonesia. Supaya kelak ketika kita dihadapi situasi seperti ini dimana sejarah menjadi tolak ukurnya kita tidak akan tergagap-gagap dalam menaggapinya, karena bangga saja tidak cukup!Sesungguhnya orang yang berbangga itu orang yang mengenali jati dirinya sendiri. Semangat semuanya 🙌🏼

[@angryzombie8088]

Wonderful journalism. It settles the dispute for good. As Malaysian, I always thought that Cendol is from Indian origin. But I have my doubt about it because it doesnt seem to fit into Indian culinary. The Indians learnt Jawet/Tjendol from the Javanese & maybe, probably because it reminds them of the Faloodeh.

[@axelmorrison183]

There are many thing should be cleared like Rendang, Wayang, Batik, Gamelan, Reog, Jaran Kepang, Chicken Satay with Peanut sauce,... I am also glad to see your comment, Malays who are respect of facts and evidence

[@handibenkz4091]

It's clear when they do research about it, even if we ignore the original old script who wrote about it, the cendol from Indonesia are way more philosophical and traditional with the culture behind it. I love this video that gives me some knowledge in it.

[@muhammadx57]

Good job pukulan telak untuk Malaysia👍🏼😂, saya orang bugis tinggal di Sulawesi Selatan dari kecil saya sudah lihat ibu saya dan keluarga besar saya membuat cendol secara tradisional untuk kami makan sekeluarga, sampai sekarang ibu saya masih sering buat cendol di rumah, di bulan ramadhan yang lalu ibu saya beberapa kali buat cendol untuk buka puasa, dan semua orang Bugis bisa buat cendol bahkan cendol masuk makanan khas daerah kami, jadi dari dulu saya menganggap cendol adalah makanan Asli bugis, dan setiap kali saya dengar cendol ya ada di bayangan saya itu makanan khas Bugis sebab cendol sangat kental di masyarakat Bugis, tapi tampaknya saya harus mengakui kalau seperti cendol di juga di bawa orang Jawa ke Sulawesi Selatan sebab orang Jawa ada di mana2😀..

[@isitsafeforme]

sy org jakarta etnis jawa, 2010-2011 sy tugas PTT di Seko Luwu Utara. Etnis asing ( keturunan dr pulau lain) yg ada di desa itu setahu sy dr jawa. orang Minang juga terkenal banyak merantau kemana-mana, kdg2 mereka buka RM Padang, tp sy cuma nemu RM Padang cuma sampe di Masamba aja, ya emang gak mungkin sih buka rumah makan masuk2 hutan dulu

[@putriindri874]

​​@@agusbinrubadirang jawa menyebut "cendol" hanya untuk bagian hijau hjaunya. Sedangkan "dawet" itu untuk kesluruhannya. Bukan hanya cendol bahkan makanan tempe yang biasa di anggap remeh oleh orang pun, orang jawa juga masih punya manuscript atau naskahnya. Salam dari jawa tengah

[@sandiprasetiyo255]

@@putriindri874 Nah ini benar 👍

[@wawan1634]

​@@putriindri874orang sunda lebih ke banyakan bilangnya cendol, sementara di daerah jawa disebutnya dawet.

[@putriindri874]

@@wawan1634 saya orang jawa tengah asli dan nyebutnya cendol

[@hidayatvivo5272]

Thank you very much indeed for everything that you have made specially researched in three countries : Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. And later on you have got the answer clearly from Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. Thank you so much brother. Your respectfully, Sayyid Hidayat Khan

[@eadruna]

Not being biased but the logic is look at the immigrants. In Malaysia and Singapore there are a lot of Indonesians but not vice versa. Immigrants first job usually to start a food business because that's the only thing they master. Nasi lemak or chili crab in Indonesia are not ubiquitous only in certain restaurants and they put like nasi lemak Malaysia or chili crab Singapore on the menu. We simply don't claim others stuff and pay respect

[@detempoedoeloekoken]

Its happened other way arround too , in 17th century Batavia ( Jakarta ) were flooded by Portuguese captured by Dutch and forced to settled in Batavia mostly in Jalan Roa Malaka and Luar Batang area , and remember these portuguese were not only Meztizos ( Portugal decent ) but also Mardjiker ( black portuguese of Africans like Madagascar , Sri Lankan, Indian , Malay of Melaka etc ). And what we thought our Indonesian food many if them are influenced by these culture for example : Gado gado , kue apem , martabak , pastel , semur , sambal , pindang etc.

[@ezra1588]

@@detempoedoeloekoken Sambal dah ada rekodnya masa kerajaan medang kuno (abad 8-10) Nama cabai pun ada rekodnya sejak abad 9,tapi cabai atau cabya pada bahasa jawa kuno tak merujuk cabai yang kita kenali sekarang. Silahkan cari di google. Btw,kalau gado-gado,pecal dll dari portugis maka seharusnya komunitas portugis di melaka dah kenal gado2 dan pecal sejak lama. Juga di maluku yang ranai keturunan portugis juga harusnya dah lama kenal gado2 dan pecal. Faktanya,gado-gado dan pecal baru popular di malaysia pada abad 20 saja.

[@nkaldo2614]

@@ezra1588 menarik. soalnya makanan yg base nya sambal kacang, atau peanut saus, tidak banyak dijumpai di negara2 lain kecuali Indonesia terutama Jawa.

[@ezra1588]

@@nkaldo2614 Kalau anda lihat sate aceh,sate minang,sate makassar dll sebenarnya secara tradisional memang tak gunakan kuah kacang. Nama sate pun berasal dari bahsa jawa,tu yang tertulis di kamus wilkinson yang di terbitkan di british settlement. Orang melayu sebelum kenal sate/satay menyebut skewer meat sebagai kabab/kebab. Karena tu orang melayu,ninang,dll tak gunakan kuah kacang. Ya kuah kacang adalah tradisi orang jawa,warung sate pertama di malaysia,satay kajang tu pun yang buka adalah orang jawa. Ada artikelmya di google dan fb tentang sate ini.

[@cilikponpon]

actually we Indonesian.. sorry let me correct it, Jakartans, messed up some.... Jakarta messed the name of food Murtabaq and Hok Lo Pan (Hokkien for terang bulan). Jakartans call Murtabaq as Martabak telor and terang bulan as Martabak manis... other areas in Indo, esp. Central and East Java keep it as Martabak and Terang Bulan.... and what worse, many young Indo claim it as Indo's.. not it is not.... Martabak is from Kerala, India and Hok Lo Pan aka Terang Bulan which Jakartans weirdly call martabak manis is a traditional Hokkien immigrants cake in Bangka island... so actually we did claim other country heritage food too you know.... Siomay....claimed as traditional Bandung food.. while for goodness sake it is Chinese Shumai...

[@puayhoonlee]

Now we know the origin is Java. Well done!!!

[@DavidRyan-gj8kl]

Hello beautiful how are you doing today? I am sorry for invading your privacy I saw your comment and I saw your profile , I must say that you are a beautiful and charming woman , and I would love for the both of us to get to know more about ourselves if you don’t mind?

[@cicizulahkaidkhow]

​@@DavidRyan-gj8kl you weird

[@syabilachmad6915]

@@DavidRyan-gj8kl playboy

[@perjalanan3378]

Seberapa hebat pun bukti-bukti yang disodorkan dunia tentang kedigdayaan Nusantara yang saat ini berbentuk Indonesia, negara tetangga tetap akan menemukan cara untuk berargumentasi dan menyangkalnya. Kasihan banget jadi bangsa yang tidak punya kebanggaan jati diri dan menyangkal kebenaran asal muasalnya. Indonesia tetap kaya dan jaya.

[@raha483]

sabar. namanya juga katak dalam tempurung. mereka males nyari informasi

[@amitchel3096]

Anyway, we are ''serumpun". Dont make this thing, divide us.

[@meong9078]

@@amitchel3096"serumpun"🤡

[@kecoter2674]

Serumpun gundhulmu

[@arwan1093]

@@amitchel3096 i sasaknese tak mau serumpun sama kauu. you malaysia. i only serumpun with my indonesian fellow

[@ahn.544]

Malu bgt ga sih kalo jadi orang Singapura and Malaysia wqwq. Kami sebagai orang Indonesia dan suku Jawa tanpa gembar gembor punya sejarahnya yg asli pun bukunya dan bahkan juga ada lagu cendol dawet. andai saja didunia sejarah jg ada seseorang yg seperti Ming Tan maka negara manapun yg ngeclaim budaya Indonesia akan malu dengan jelas. seperti halnya profesor2/warganya Malaysia selalu ngeclaim dari, bahasa, lagu, batik, rendang, wayang dsbnya itu ngebuat geram bgt. 😏 Semoga dengan video ini mereka sadar dan berhati-hati untuk mengclaim, terimakasih pak William 🙏

[@bayulistiantaraaji3296]

Cendol adalah karya Jawa Indonesia yg mendunia ❤❤❤❤ wow semngat terus kembangkan kuliner ni

[@CosmopolitanXMan]

ChatGPT said: "The origin of the name "cendol" is believed to come from the Javanese language, specifically from the word "jendol" or "dodol," which means "bulging" or "swollen." This refers to the characteristic shape and texture of the rice flour jelly noodles used in cendol, which are cylindrical and have a slightly chewy consistency. Over time, the word "jendol" or "dodol" transformed into "cendol," which is the more commonly used term today. It's worth noting that variations of cendol exist in different Southeast Asian countries, each with their own local names and slight differences in ingredients and preparation methods." So, it's originally from Indonesia.

[@luthfisidik001]

Jangan dijelasin artinya bro, ntar mereka ganti dengan kata kata lain, kan mereka jago klaim dan. silat lidah

[@AplikatordeckingWpc]

Namanya aja uda medok gitu iya, CenDoL... Sangat jawa penyebutannya.., Bahkan kita punya lagu nya tentang CenDoL ini.., gmna klo garis kekuasaan kerajaan kita dlu kita klaim saja,(misal) klo pak karno masi Ada, di jamin habis tuh org

[@gilang9451]

Yoi bro, lidah melayu sama Singapore gk pantes lidah nya nyebut cendol, lawak emang mereka

[@Joespore]

you are confusing "doldol" way different sweet delicacy with this Chendol.

[@CosmopolitanXMan]

@@Joespore Dodol is of course different from cendol. But "bulging" or "swollen" connotes to cendol or jendol as cendol looks bulging or swollen. Dodol is known in the 9th century in Jawa as "dwadwal" (old Javanese word) and its sound of dwal or dol is similar to dol in cendol. So, it could have similar root in that bulging/swollen look.

[@pakler2967]

Records of the word cendol or tjendol can be traced to many 19th-century dictionaries and books in the Dutch East Indies. One of the oldest known records of the word tjendol is contained in the Oost-Indisch kookboek or East Indies recipe book dating from 1866. This book includes a cendol recipe with the title "Tjendol of Dawet" indicating that cendol and dawet were used synonymously at that time.[5] ] In the dictionary Supplement op het Maleisch-Nederduitsch Woordenboek (1869) by Jan Pijnappel (Gz.), tjendol is described as a kind of drink or dilute paste made from sago, coconut milk, sugar and salt.

[@pakler2967]

Cendol originally from Indonesia

[@mcbchannel7173]

emang malaysia ngentot tukang claim, menteri pertahanannya aja orang ponorogo. setelah ditracing dan ternyata pembuat cendol pertama di malaysia itu orang jawa apa ga malu mereka. eh lupa mereka orang2 ga punya muka, orang ga punya malu.

[@PerryKobalt]

@@pakler2967 unfortunately those wannabe neighbors "Borrow" our cultures and claim it as theirs

[@davidivory3234]

Dawet is the whole drink while cendol is the green one.

[@herybertussuparwanto546]

In Indonesia not only green colour, we have black, white, etc colourfull of cendol,in java called dawet.

[@username-mo8jc]

The name cendol probably comes from the Javanese word jendol meaning "swollen" or "chewy", which refers to the texture of the green grains in the drink. Cendol was first mentioned in the Taji inscription in Ponorogo in the 10th century under the name Dawet. Later, the Kresnayana manuscript from the 12th century during the Kediri Kingdom rewrote the name. In the 15th century, cendol spread to Central Java and West Java as a medium for preaching during the Demak sultanate. Javanese soldiers then brought cendol to Melaka, Malaysia and Singapore under the name Cendol. Cendol is purely from Java, Indonesia

[@richardaryanto340]

cna , you guys doing great job finding this cendol origin , thumbs up

[@prioe93]

As an Indonesian, I always like Singaporeans compared to their neighbors, they are smart, always do their research before acting, don't just make claims like their neighbors Malaysia, Speak first without data, don't think first

[@NevarPitouf]

Wkwkw majority on

[@User-dfly95xcw23cfw]

Mentality dan Level IQ Berbeda bro , Singapore Nyata Maju 😆

[@M_Daniel7777]

Spore malaysia ya bagus.. negara lo itu kebelakang.. sepak bola aja gaduh persis kanak kanak.. hihi

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@M_Daniel7777 spore jadi maju SETELAH PISAH dari maleis dan BM PUNAH TOTAL di sana. jadi maleis stop koar2 gajebo BM GO ASEAN. GAK ADA YG MINAT BM DI DUNIA MODERN! SADAR WOY! mending ganti total ke ENGLISH dah pasti entar maju kek spore 😂

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@M_Daniel7777 semoga suatu saat maleis mengikuti langkah spore untuk menghapus BM secara TOTAL. Karena kepunahan BM bukti kemajuan suatu negara 😂

[@ramadhan5891]

Saya tersenyum sendiri waktu melihat short konten ini di tiktok, Makanya saya cari fullnya di youtube. Inilah kekayaan Indonesia

[@mysimplici_ty]

Thank you, chef!! Really appreciate for all the efforts that you did, bravo! Once again, thank you Chef Ming Tan👍🏻

[@kakeyama6114]

Indonesia has a diversity of food and culture from each region. It's hard for us to keep them because there are too many. Therefore, neighboring countries often recognize what Indonesia has.

[@FontaineLovers]

negligence in protecting your belongings will result in shameless claims by your neighbors

[@braydaily]

Benar sekali, begitu banyaknya Suku,bahasa dan budaya sehingga beribu macam Karya cipta yg telah dilahirkan oleh Bangsa kita tercinta ini.

[@marulich6337]

wow.. what a strange topic discussed by netizens, I don't know why cendol can be claimed by several countries, because in my opinion the word " *Cendol* " already looks like a very Javanese name. This is not like Melayu names which are spread in several countries in Southeast Asia

[@f.s.firdaus8106]

Cendol, dodol, that’s Javanese names

[@ekymuharrahman8782]

Makanya lucu, kami di Riau juga Melayu tapi gak ada tu cendol. Bisa2 sampai ke Malaysia, kan lucu di wilayah Melayu lain gak ada tiba2 sampai Malaysia aja tu benda.

[@danuaditya642]

@@ekymuharrahman8782 there so many Javanese migration there.

[@febriancahyanto1691]

@@ekymuharrahman8782 karena di Malaysia suku jawa dimasukkan ke melayu batak juga melayu

[@yuhibafandi5557]

@@febriancahyanto1691 mereka seluruh indonesia di anggap melayu sama mereka bikin sejarah konsep halu... klu udh melayu itu puny mereka juga bangsat kan malaysia.. merka seperti itu karena insecure sama india dan china.. politik rasis

[@rara.raaaaa]

Fadly Rahman is one of my lecturer. When my departement open Culinary History class, it's a dope. Many students interest to be a part of that class. Basically, that class is available to Culture History departement's student. While I took Social History at that time. It is fun to talk about food and culture all day long in Uni, what a memorable time.

[@DaniSC_l1]

Cendol is Javanese and I can confirm. In Java, there is a saying "Rantau" which means going elsewhere to find fortune. This statement is very true because you can see that cendol, which is clearly Javanese, have gone all over the Nusantara. The Javanese people have went everywhere to seek fortune and spread Javanese culture. My great grandfathers are all from Javanese and they went Rantau to Jakarta which is the capital to seek fortune.

[@DaniSC_l1]

@@LalamoofCoco benar, tapi yang ditanya kan dari mana cendol berasal, ya jawabannya tentu Jawa, tapi kalau berbicara soal dimana cendol terkenal, nah Malaysia bisa salah satu negara yang mengadaptasi dan membuat variasi cendol

[@ddroman9468]

​@@LalamoofCoco after read your opinion i got this point, basically if Marcopolo arrived at Malaca strait and he make and sell pizza and his pizza is popular on malay, it means people on malay will claim that pizza also from malay but malay use so many spicies so that makes a different the original pizza and pizzalay (pizza malay). ASLI CONGOK RAIMU JEMBOD 😅

[@Ruang_Peksos]

High quality of journalism. love this. Many food influencer should learn from this style

[@glorrrr5579]

As one of the descendants of the Majapahit kingdom, I can confirm that this is from Java..Our ancestors made this drink hundreds of years ago. This drink was usually served at an event in Javanese kingdoms.. Besides that, why can I confirm that this drink is from Indonesia? Because many ancient foods in Indonesia use brown sugar as the main ingredient. Especially on the island of Java, which has a lot of food and drinks that are hundreds or even thousands of years old..Even in my area they still use the traditional way of making it..Even in ancient Indonesian manuscripts there is this drink.

[@lucablight174]

As decendant of Srivijaya empire, I can confirm you right bro.

[@jaelbun186_]

Kak ? Serius ? brarti kita masih kerabat. Kk keturunan dari eyang apa ? eyang putri atau eyang raja ?@@lucablight174

[@arivanuaranu]

Thank you for this fun, yet thoroughly researched video. Look, you can't really fight Indonesia when it comes to historical evidence. Our neighbors can claim they want, but only we got the inscriptions, manuscripts, etc to back ours.

[@azroyazhar4481]

the thing is...even java people have no original food...all majority came from china

[@ezra1588]

​@@azroyazhar4481 Lawak Ada berapa juta orang china dan india di negara kau? Cendol jelas ada rekodnya sejak abad 12 lol. Kau baca rekod china,ying yai shen lan kah? Di tulis,dimasa melaka orang semenanjung tu makannya sagu. Juga ada rekod china lain yang merekod hingga abad 17 orang semenanjung masih makan sagu. So,sejak bila orang semenanjung mula makan nasi?

[@grock7971]

Especially that Hallucination country.... I mean Malon.

[@DeihanDzilky]

*_Haha betul banget Bro!!!_*

[@luceindeep5879]

Yeah, like wayang, gamelan, batik, pencak silat etc. When i tried to informed them that those things were originally from Indonesia, they started to argue "We have all of those here too, so we owned it too" Well, just because you or your father or even your grandfather have it doesn't mean you can claim it to be yours, and if we talking about "Originally" we can't say "they both own it", we have to find the end of the root The funny things is, they often said that we Indonesian were too illiterate

[@meph1570]

Malaysia : "don't mess with my culture!" Indonesia : "kinda funny coming from you"

[@kanazef]

The Cendol was first mentioned in the Kresnayana manuscript, which dates back to the 12th century Kediri Kingdom, in Java.Meanwhile, the word Cendol was first mentioned in 1932 in the Malay Concordance Project which had listed the food items that were available in Kuala Lumpur back then. The word Cendol itself was derived from the Indonesian word, jendol, which means "bulge" or "swollen". Stop all this nonsense, just drink your cendol.

[@ezra1588]

Tengok lagi videonya. Kata cendol di malaysia baru ada pada tahun 1932. Tapi di indonesia dah ada buku recipe cendol dan ada kamus belanda yang dah merekod nama cendol sejak tahuj 18xx Jauh lagi awal banding semua rekod yang ada di malaysia

[@jimhoobing]

@@ezra1588 dia malah bilang lebih jauh lagi, ada di manuskrip kediri di abad 12 😅.

[@ayyayo6909]

​@@ezra1588 babe he said cendol already added at manuscript at kediri kingdom (east Java)

[@ezra1588]

@@ayyayo6909 Ya,saya jawab terburu2 mungkin karena esmosi pada komen2 lainnya

[@5skdm]

​@@ezra1588 lol this comment section is a warzone

[@jenn_iv]

HHAHAHHAHAH JUST SO GOOD HOW YOU SLAP THAT MALAYSIAN CLAIM WITH THE EVIDENCE LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kusumandriyanto]

I didn't expect there will be so much plottwists just from a cendol documentary😂

[@atiksoelastri7659]

*katakan yg benar itu kusuka,tidak main klaim apapun...mantap tim CNA,lanjutkan pencerahannya,di indonesia semua ada sejarah&buktinya*

[@nathandulce]

very insightful research and also very humbling! there's no shame in acknowledging the origins of our dishes because we have shared pockets of history and heritage.. thank you CNA insider for this wonderful episode!

[@keyeshayes7857]

Ya'll right, those young Indian fellows really tried to honestly telling you the truth. Java shares and preseve a lot of Indian cultures such as the epic of Ramayana, scripts, and sanskrits as well. In Java, when a soft object like a small balloon is being squeezed it will be resulting the other part of the balloon to swell and we call it "Jendol", that what exactly the process of cendol making, the paste in the container is beeing squeeze down then it slip out through many tiny holes and a little child usually exclaim "hey... jendol"🤣 Yes, it spread like what we call now viral became "Cendol". Yes, In central and East Java we call it "Dawet" and I love to take time to enjoy it and my wife always say I am such an antique but I don't care.🤣

[@fafnhir_]

omg, you right. I dont releaze it until you said it. Just difference in how to spoke letter 'e'

[@codgj]

Singapore and Malaysia were part of the Sriwijaya empire, whose royal capital was in Palembang, Indonesia. So it makes sense that we have a lot of cultural similarities. However, what should not be done is to be selfish in announcing to the international community that this culture is purely made in your own country without inquiring and knowing its origins.

[@lilidharmo134]

Kata siapa bang mereka bagian dari kerajaan sriwijaya, bukannya itu cuma wilayah jajahan aja ya

[@codgj]

@@lilidharmo134 kata google, kata wikipedia om

[@codgj]

@@lilidharmo134 Dulu pas di sekolah juga katanya sih sampek Thailand juga pernah jadi wilayah Kerajaan Sriwijaya ya

[@codgj]

@@lilidharmo134 Namanya kerajaan dulu ya wilayahnya gak tetap, bisa diperluas, bisa juga makin kecil. Semua kerajaan dulu gitu. Yang merasa terjajah itu bagi mereka yang gak suka dengan kerajaan itu ada di wilayah mereka.

[@lilidharmo134]

@@codgj ohh waktu itu jg pernah denger sih emang issue²nya sriwijaya melakukan perluasan wilayah sampai ke thailand tp setelah diteliti lg lbh dalam sm arkeolog palembang isi prasasti yg ditemuin di negara lain misal malay sm thailand. Ternyata kerajaan sriwijaya hanya memberikan bantuan untuk pembangunan kuil kpd negara tsb. #cmiw

[@deestilo]

when gula malaka is known as well in indonesia as gula jawa......... well.... but I have to salute on your integrity and your search of truth.

[@hernawanrahmadi1545]

as mentioned cendol is only the geeen jelly (colored by pandan leaves and suji leaves [Dracaena angustifolia], and mentioned as cendol leaves in the video), which means swollen. while the whole concoction is called dawet that consist of: cendol, coconut milk, coconut sugar, and diced jackfruit.

[@Xxxc7272]

Not only cendol from java but gula malaca originaly from java too, gula jawa

[@bgsash242]

i dont think so, this kind of gula, made from nira aren or nira kelapa are already ubiquitous in SEA archipelago since long time ago because u can find coconut palm or sugar palm anywhere in this archipelago. every place call it with their own name as gula jawa, gula bali, gula palembang, gula sabu, gula melaka, etc etc but its still basically a palm sugar.

[@ezra1588]

​@@bgsash242 Gula jawa dah ada rekodnya jauh sebelum prameswara buka melaka

[@ezra1588]

@@bgsash242 Gula aren atau gula merah atau gula jawa ada rekodnya sejak abad 9 dari prasasti2 peninggalan kerajaan medang kuno. Tu rekod tertua yang ada di nusantara. Tapi kalau ambil rekod lain diluar nusantara,gua aren,palm sugar dah ada masa dinasty gupta di india,dah jauh lebih lama lagi. Tentang gula melaka,saya rasa tak ada satupun rekod gula melaka tertulis pada naskah2 tua di semenanjung. Karena melaka hanya mewariskan sulalatus salatin saja dan itupun konon di tulis di tahun 1602 oleh tun sri lanang,dan faktanya salinan tertua yang ada hanyalah sulalatus salatin koleksi raffles yang di salin di abad 18. Sulalatus salatin dan hikayat2 lainnya disemenanjung yang ada sekarang semua adalah salinan dari abad 19.

[@farthurf.5221]

@@bgsash242 lol always disagree until someone split the fact 🗿 Based Malaya bumiputera

[@davidivory3234]

​@@bgsash242 Hahhaha, Java is the center of cultural, tradition, haritages that we introduced to all nusantara regions, the huge influences of Javanese can be seen in almost Malay cultures.

[@ZhouRicky07]

The fact that Singapore is being put into consideration is already funny enough 😅😂🤣

[@milshaaddit6589]

It reminds me when I met few dense Malaysian who out of nowhere dissed Indonesian people for always angry and refused to share some food just because they share some historical geography together. Like bruh, sharing variation of one food is different than when you one-sidedly claimed certain food are 'came' and 'invented' in/from your country. It's crazy how the perpetrators were the one who scolded the victims so hard. 😅

[@arisetyo7]

People tend to forget that since a thousand years ago there has been several Javanese/Java-based empires who ruled the whole maritime SE Asia, including the now Malay peninsula.

[@yadilbeddu4832]

so the verdict is Cendol from Java (Indonesia). But I just love cendol, whichever versions, Msian, Sporean and Indonesian Cendol, they all taste great...yummy

[@bayprast883]

Terima kasih CNA.... selanjutnya meneliti batik, songket & keris berasal dari INDONESIA... 😊

[@YudaBustarakitchen]

Love this episode, finally someone investigate on this claiming fight, Please do Laksa episode 😄

[@YudaBustarakitchen]

And rendang Plz 😄

[@ezra1588]

Rasanya susah cari tau asal usul nasi lemak,rendang atau laksa dan makanan khas melayu lainya. Karena orang melayu di sumatra dan malaya tak ada catatan2 sejarah lokal,seperti naskah tua,dll. Yang ada hanya hikayat2 saja,dan hikayat2 yang ada sekarang pun semua adalah salinan dari abad 19. Berbeda dengan dipulau jawa,rasanya tradisi nenulis di sumatra dan malaya tak sebanyak dipulau jawa.

[@paduka23]

​@@ezra1588the rendang origin as simple as the existance of "minangkabau people" Rendang in malaysia brought by minang people Rendnag in indonesia is exclusively belong to minang people that has "home" in west sumatra The place where they "created" the "minang people"

[@fikrianurudhasapulette]

​@@ezra1588 Except for rendang which is exclusively created and perfected by Minangkabau people, a group that speak certain dialects considered to be Malayic languages and differentiate from wider Malay group of Sumatra through their merantau tradition as well as matrilinealistic society

[@dayak6427]

@@ezra1588 di jakarta nasi lemak disebut nasi uduk dan makanan ini diperkenal kan saat wali songo menyebarkan islam,kata nasi uduk berasal dr nasi wuduk simbol wudlu atau bersuci di jawa biasa dengan lauk ayam ingkung atau ayam yg diikat seperti orang sujud. Simbol sederhana kalau ingin sujud harus bersuci. nasi uduk dibawa kejakarta saat demak perang denga portugis di sunda kelapa yg akhirnya kesultanan demak menggantinya menjadi jayakarta (kota kemenangan)

[@yanfaith90]

I am Indonesian, and as much as I love Indonesia… I do love me some Malaysian style Chendol as I enjoy the ice shavings and the simple ingredients that come with it. Indonesian cendols have got way too many components for me 🙈 Also, fun fact in indo gula Melaka isn’t called that. It’s called gula Jawa! 🙈

[@bgsash242]

That's why I prefer to call it gula aren, because iavanese call it gula jawa, or in another place gula bali, gula etc etc

[@goesastawan4969]

In non Javenese culture we named it Gula kelapa or gula aren or gula merah. We can't simplified it as a Gula Jawa.

[@Hana-kc1lq]

@@bgsash242 in Jawa, gula aren and gula Jawa is different. Gula aren is the sap from Aren tree, while gula Jawa from coconut tree. But you can call gula Jawa as gula kelapa.

[@bgsash242]

@@Hana-kc1lq thank you for the information

[@afaridpirmansyah7867]

@@bgsash242 in Sundanese those sugar are call Gula Beureum ( Red Sugar ).

[@GlagahPuteh17th]

Kudos to CNA Insider, Singaporeans and Indians in this video. For the people of Peninsular Malaysia, just enjoy what you eat, and don't try to claim it as your ancestral heritage, without doing research first. so as not to become the subject of ridicule of people from other countries.

[@mjpMALIK]

I agree with this statement

[@erpe.modern]

yep, like pizza that originally from italy. you can make it with the different spice/flavor but you need to know that pizza come from Italy

[@Ffdipedie]

Orang malaysia tampak bodoh sejarahnya karena mereka bljr sejarah palsu dr profesor penipu mereka yg mengklaim hampir semua masakan indonesia, tp mereka lupa bhw sejarah tdk ditulis satu negara, ada negara lain yg menulis nya juga. Mereka juga tdk tau bhw indonesia memiliki ribuan manuskrip2 baik di belanda,indonesia ataupun di amerika, yg tdk bisa di bantah oleh malaysia. Malaysia tdk pernah menang dlm pembuktian perebutan budaya dg indonesia karena mereka memang asal klaim, semsntara indonesia mengklaim apa yg memang jd milik nya dengab dukungan bukti.

[@cilikponpon]

I am guessing you are an Indonesian, I am too but even Indonesian claim food too... siomay is shumai from Chinese heritage, but yet many local Indo so firmly say it is original Indo because it comes from Bandung... to me who growing up eating siomay (shumai) in Surabaya as original as it is in China, I call siomay Bandung as siomay palsu. Goes the same with soto.... my late grandma who was born in 1930 ish always called it caoto, well soto itself was orginated from Hokkian food called Caoto.... but again many Indo say SOTO is OURS... so you see.... we are not that much different for those in Malaysia who claimed Cendol.

[@storagecrafter5701]

@@cilikponpon peradaban china lebih dulu ada dibanding jawa. Salah satu peradaban tertua kan. Wajar aja kalo orang sana lebih dulu menemukan sesuatu

[@fadlya.rahman4113]

For your info, Gula Melaka was called gula jawa or gula aren in Indonesia. The process of making them is similar.

[@misterred2830]

Gausah info2, itu jelas2 gula jawa, mereka cuman ganti nama.

[@ip3vk]

No need to argue whether it is from malaysia or singapore. Cendol originated from Indonesia & so is the pink rose-milky drink called Bandung & also dishes like gado-gado, tahu goreng etc.