ORIGINS of Giants BEFORE The Bible | Nephilim, Anakim & Rephaim

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[@FungiFun-m3t]

✟ “Seek the LORD and his 🍄🌿strength, seek his🍄🌿face continually.” 1 Chronicles 16:11 (KJV) Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the 🍄giants

[@FlaviusBrosephus]

Derek, will you plan to make any videos responding to Jordan Peterson's upcoming Gospel series? I'd love to get a Mythvision take on it...

[@kwamesmith3214]

I might as well write my own Bible

[@jackisgallant]

John Smith and L. Ron Hubbard did that.

[@JaysonT1]

Do it! I guarantee no matter what tou say, somebody will follow you.

[@edelgyn2699]

@@JaysonT1 I'm a Kwamesmithian already. I put aside my initial qualms about having to sacrifice my eldest son when I later read all followers could put in a substantial land claim for a plot on the French Riviera which should suit me and the wife and his surviving siblings. Kawame's the One True Prophet alrightie! 👍🏾

[@BrentKrohn]

You could do just as well and don't forget to include the importance of your God needing a donation. The more he gets the better their afterlife will be.😊

[@clstrat837]

Now this is content I enjoy from mythvision. Gives us the cool weird stuff.

[@rumrunner8019]

This is just something that exists in most mythologies of that era. In Vedic tradition you have the Asuras, the heroic demi-gods, and the Rakshasas, the mostly evil supernatural monsters. Ancient Persia has beings called the Div, who are basically the same thing.

[@McMacPaddyWhack]

0:20 He didn't limit human lifespans to 120 years, He began a 120 year countdown to the flood. Subsequent passages list several people well over 120 years old... no, what He was saying was the Earth has 120 years before I fix what they broke. Gotta get this stuff right brother.

[@mythos-seek]

I appreciate that not only do you take your time speaking clearly, you also put what you say as texts for us to follow along. It REALLY helps with taking in the information you're sharing

[@mdug7224]

Genesis 6.4 is like the start of a detached, glued in addition. 6.1 kicked of with an adaptation of the Sumarian flood myth. 6.4 onwards throws in some kind of additional parallel from Zeus, Prometheus and the titans. Then, everything goes back to the adaptation of the Sumarian myth. It's like trying to please as many of the cinema goers as possible.

[@jasonjenkins7825]

Library of Alexandria had a lot of useful stuff in it.

[@mdug7224]

@jasonjenkins7825 probably, but I don't think they even had to go that far for material. With Assyria and Greece in and out of the area so much and the exile 8n Babylon, the source material would have been common knowledge.

[@kariannecrysler640]

Criptids of the Bible is a fun way to start the day

[@edelgyn2699]

Not as a breakfast mind cos they ain't kosher.

[@kariannecrysler640]

@ 🤣

[@shanegooding4839]

Seems to be a widespread idea around the world that the earlier inhabitants of the land were giants. Maybe just stories passed down from when our ancestors actually had to deal with larger stronger creatures to survive?

[@Darisiabgal7573]

Not only giants, but lived 10,000s of years. I think this the way ancient people explained the fog of history. For example the city that are along the Jordan, such as Hazor are toppled by great quakes, or as one author concludes, meteors. So people see a toppled city and people running terrified, a giant beast must have crawled from the earth or Giants were hurling stones in the night, stomping their feet causes walls to collapse. To deal with the large gaps in storied history they have kings that lived 10,000s of years. In Mesopotamia it’s even problematic because abuse the priesthood early had higher standing than the king, if a king in say Bad Tibera was organizing armies to do boundary maintenance, maybe Ur does not need a king, they just send their warriors to serve the Tiberan King.

[@jackisgallant]

Meteors, haha

[@julianpetkov8320]

@@Darisiabgal7573 Big refers to rank not stature. Whoever started this giants joke, must be laughing his bones off in his grave.

[@kMegalonyx]

Ancient art frequently depicts people’s relative stature through varying the size of the figures, important figures such as kings are often depicted much larger than their close subordinates, who may also be larger than those on their armies or other lower status figures. Given how much of history is an obvious broken telephone game, it wouldn’t surprise me if this contributed to the belief in giants and the association of great size with figures of great status.

[@Thunder_warrior]

Great observation ​@@Darisiabgal7573

[@neocount6397]

If I have better morals, is it a god? 😅

[@Thunder_warrior]

You are not a good but you can make a god because it is all in our heads

[@colleenanne6849]

This is how they explained size of dinosaur bones

[@KaitlynBurnellMath]

But where did the one giant frog described in Exodus go? I want my mile long frog bones!

[@jackisgallant]

Got a verse for that?

[@RealPumpkinJay]

I would wager that they found actual dinosaurs bones and explained them with giants. PS: Probably should’ve watched further before posting this speculation 😂

[@orbitaldefenses]

Wow, the connection of milk and honey to giants was not on my bingo card. 20:15

[@ardalla535]

At least we know they were no lactose intolerant. That's valuable info.

[@BizNizil7676]

Babe wake up, New MythVision just dropped 😌 👏

[@senseofsoulpodcast]

So weird I was just over the past 10 min researching this!! Frickin weird!

[@jrgvsqz]

Your phone knows what you research and offers you related videos. Its AI. The all seeing eye. Your phone is always listening even when you dont use it

[@senseofsoulpodcast]

@jrgvsqz yeah but he released it while I was reading about it? I got a notification because I’m a subscriber. It’s something I’ve already researched years ago and for whatever reason was looking it up I had barely got into when Derek released it.

[@dirtypickle77]

​@@senseofsoulpodcastits one of the greek Gods letting you know the Abrahamic God is a fiction.

[@hectorlarios8689]

Me too. I was asking chat gpt about their relationship with other peoples in the Bible.

[@dantallman5345]

Cool stuff. The more I hear about this, the more it becomes “all Greek to me”. There might be really old nuggets of stories but the final compilation along with insertion of a good bit of new material seems later and later, like mainly in the Hellenistic period.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Nephilim aka clouds are associated with the five winter signs (flood of Noah) as the rainy season. The fiery serpent is lightning. The rain drops were the tears of Zeus. see tale of Zeus and Nephele.

[@TheMarksT]

All they had were their stories back then. Their lives mired in wars, too, more so than even we are today!

[@kellydalstok8900]

I doubt that is true. Most biblical wars seem to have existed only in the imagination of the writers

[@thearaucariafarmer556]

New Mythvision!! 🏀🔥

[@georgepennington9833]

well done

[@PatriceBoivin]

So where are the giants' bones? If there were so many, surely some of their bodies have been found by now.

[@harveywabbit9541]

The giants were clouds.

[@kariannecrysler640]

33:07 What are the dates associated with writing for the two books? Were they heroic or horrendous in the oldest book?

[@andyhoughtaling6319]

Yayyyyy! Happy Thanksgiving!

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

Nephilim were strictly pre-flood hybrids, Rephaim (of which Anakim were like a clan to that tribe) were strictly post-flood humans, and there’s zero correlation between them.

[@Donald-c6p]

Nice god his kids f up and he punished the humans

[@mdug7224]

Whipping boys for the princes.

[@godsworduncensored5010]

No, God eradicated only those who intermixed with the fallen angels. Noah, his wife and sons, 8 in total of the "Adamic" souls were still fully human, they did not mix with angelic rebels. There were others who were still fully human, still had pure DNA, they were taken onboard the ark as well. God instructed Noah to take 2 of every flesh to keep them alive. This is how the various races made it through the flood and are still with us today. The whole plan the fallen angels had was to corrupt the "Adamic" bloodline as well as rid the earth of all the natural humans as God created them. They were attempting to stop the birth of Christ and populate the earth with their hybrid humans to rule over.

[@TheJohnnyCalifornia]

@@mdug7224It does smell like rich dad syndrome. Basically the source for 99% of the origin stories of heroes in Greek and Indian and Sumerian and Norse mythology.

[@mdug7224]

@TheJohnnyCalifornia I am thinking we are thinking something similar: rich dudes want a story; bards put together a toady narrative with some sensational plot twists and name dropping.

[@dirtypickle77]

​@@godsworduncensored5010very incorrect you should study the original Hebrew, not the churches biased translation. As the jews rightly know, jesus was not needed as there are many examples of people in the Tanakh achieving forgiveness with sincere repentance including a whole city of gentiles in the book of Jonah, Moses, king David. Christians dont understand sacrifices were for unintentional sins, guilt offering, a couple others but totally optional. And the most common, the passover which isn't even a sin offering. If you do choose to bring a sacrifice but can not afford a animal or two pigeons or turtle doves you can bring flour as is stated in leviticus. Why do you need jesus to human sacrifice himself to himself, when before Christianity you can be forgiven directly? What was the sacrifice anyways? If one sacrifices an animal and it comes back to life, what was lost. We all die, what did jesus sacrifice? He didnt get sent to hell for eternity but went back to being God. It doesn't seem that Christianity needs to actually make sense for people to believe it, just listen to the preacher man like most of them but no real study or knowledge about it all. Thats why Christians believe jesus is needed, dont know any better.

[@nazareno.d.ulvedal]

Any other hominin specie could seemed a giant to a Denisovan.

[@YadinZedek777]

Another great video 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@alg11297]

The verb "nafal" means to fall

[@harveywabbit9541]

Nephilim aka clouds are associated with the five winter signs (flood of Noah) as the rainy season. The fiery serpent is lightning. The rain drops were the tears of Zeus. see tale of Zeus and Nephele.

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

@@harveywabbit9541 So then, human women gave birth to clouds? Wow!

[@harveywabbit9541]

@@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker Zeus became Jupiter (IU Piter) supreme god of the bible.

[@jamesgrosrenaudjr812]

Thank you for finding out that mystery . you know more then my study Bible commentary.

[@megangray7769]

7:37 definitely selling this product well 👀👍 👍👍

[@MikeOcksmol]

I have to disagree on this one. The giants are also globally attested and we have skeletons from all around the world as well. They were an actual antediluvian race who were integrated and became the Indo-Europeans

[@KenAmmi-Shalom]

What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?

[@pragmaticcrystal]

We Are MythVision‼️

[@deborahmagana5039]

Good show

[@aresaurelian]

They Walked the Sky, Anakim, the skywalker.

[@RickardMattson]

😂😂❤

[@StoicWarrior-yi8sx]

George Lucas researched religions and myths.

[@exoplanet11]

Not to discount the Greek origin theory' (for which much evidence was presented here), but is there any chance that the Genesis authors heard stories from Mesopotamian sources about the Anunnaki and used that as the basis for Anakim, Anakites, etc. ?

[@michaelnesbit6447]

Very interesting. The Hindu epic Mahabarata tells a similar story. Gods mating with humans, then a great war being initiated by Krisna to make the demigods all kill each other.

[@MasonMorgen]

I've got a theory that given how the Shasu were semi nomadic raider pastoralists that the Nephilim at least started out as fallen warriors much like the Einherjar of Norse myth, the Yahu cult might've originated as a cargo religion much like a theory of Wōdnaz/Odin starting as a Roman cargo cult.

[@HoTrEtArDeDcHiXx]

Half daughter half son clue 🕵️‍♂️

[@michaelmcgee8543]

Thanks!

[@davidbudge8359]

Is there any ancient myth the Israelites didn't borrow from?

[@alg11297]

Hard to believe since all the other nations were illiterate.

[@danielbarton8974]

I’m only 3 minutes in but I think the nephalim is a polemic against the stories of figures like Gilgamesh which this story is derived from.the bible is always trying to revert back to time before history to gain authority .Islam also does the same slide of hand .it tries to change history over time because people forget because of diffrent teachings over time .

[@harveywabbit9541]

Nephilim aka clouds are associated with the five winter signs (flood of Noah) as the rainy season. The fiery serpent is lightning. The rain drops were the tears of Zeus. see tale of Zeus and Nephele.

[@midlandsfloorspringslimite1282]

It's sleight, sleight of hand.

[@TheGnewb]

Is kinda like If Charles Manson blocked someone for questioning his interpretations of The Beatles misheard lyrics and his subsequent re-interpretations of them no matter how wrong they imagined them to be. When scientists disagree is also kinda neat

[@kaarlimakela3413]

OH! Like Arnold, giant! Now get it!

[@whtiequillBj]

I think you may need to go into what the perfect and the imperfect is cause it has nothing to do with perfection and everything to do with grammar.

[@mdug7224]

Them there Titans do get around.

[@sangyoonlee8836]

The only thing shocking is that Mythvision confidently telling a story like it is verified fact like religious fanatics do. Mythvision creator seems not able to see oneself in the mirror, only sees what he wants to see and states things what he likes to say.

[@FungiFun-m3t]

Genesis 6:4 There were🍄giants in the earth in those days

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?

[@FungiFun-m3t]

@@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker Could be gaint cannabis plants too haha. Seriously tho. Last supper bread contained hash and psilocybin fungi and it's pretty much the central theme of the entire bible. So in that context it actually proabably is referencing either cannabis or fungi. People just not aware of all the mushrooms and cannabis references in scripture but there are many.

[@josexavierneto]

I liked the content very much. Congrats. One doubt, though. Isn't right that a diluvian narrative was already known tô be associated with Sumerians and Acadians? If so, this makes the hypothesis of Genesis later less likely. Of course, the idea of the flood may have been present, but not associated with Nephilim at the time of books earliest than Genesis. Interesting.

[@DennisNieves-j7r]

The ad spot was nauseating

[@blake4590]

That giant in the thumbnail must be at least 1,000 feet tall

[@samlebon9884]

They were the ancestors of the the Harlem Globe Trotters.

[@janjordal9451]

A very good video. But please remove or turn down the music. It is very irritating and disturbing.

[@Mr_Stav]

I'm guessing Rafaim is a misreading of Rabaim coz fey & bet look almost identically...

[@ImmortalDuke]

Did nut happen

[@raya.p.l5919]

Looks like my pet lizard 🦎

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

Pet my lizard

[@StoicWarrior-yi8sx]

You don't have one. You have worm.

[@davidhyams2769]

The Iliad is thought to have been written in about the 8th century BC, about 100 or so years before the Hebrew Bible was codified during and after the Babylonian captivity. The Iliad relates a tale set in the days before the Bronze Age collapse and is most likely a retelling of an ancient oral tradition, in much the same way the earlier parts of the Hebrew Bible were. Although the narrative here puts the possible incorporation of the Greek-like themes in the time of Persian rule, this was centuries before later Greek influence would have spread throughout the Middle East following Alexander the Great's conquest in the 4th century BC. However, there may be a much earlier interaction between the Canaanites/Israelites and Greek mythology. This would have been the invasion of the Sea Peoples, one of which is thought to be the origins of the Philistines, who likely came from Crete or elsewhere in the Aegean. Although depicted in the bible as enemies of the Israelites, it is also likely that there would have been trade and cultural exchange, during which the Israelites may have encountered these ancient Greek myths in their oral form.

[@justaguy995]

All fairytale have giants and demons

[@harveywabbit9541]

Like Satan, father of lies aka the constellation Scorpio who leads the four signs of Sagittarius thru Pisces in Rev. 9.5. These same five signs make up ha Shem aka Hades of the Greeks and Pluto of the Latins.

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

YT cut off the key part of your comment since it shows it ending in "...demons" so the ergo part is missing.

[@talentusa]

Does mythvision ever respond to comments?

[@thomasroth4695]

Moses was how old?

[@paulmoore-LPC-LMFT-NCC]

Every Rabbi I asked about this says the sins of God are the righteous men.

[@KenAmmi-Shalom]

So, God's "sins" are the righteous men"? Slight typo, I know, I couldn't help it. Well, that is just a late-comer of a view. Think about it: they talked you into believing that righteous men weren't righteous men since they were such terrible sinners that their sin served as the premise for the flood. The original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the “Angel view” as I proved in my book, “On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?: A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim.”

[@TheDeadlyDan]

[@harveywabbit9541]

Moses being of an exceedingly restless disposition, instantly set off upon his next tour (Num. 21.21); and the Israelites sent messengers unto Sihon (sprouter = spring, from Sun, "to sprout forth "), king of the Amorites (from amar, to speak, or to bring forth to light- the spring months), asking permission to pass through his territory. Sihon objected, and the parties met at Jahaz (the trodden down place = place of intercalation). Israel was victorious, and possessed themselves of the land unto the Jabbok, even unto the children of Amnion (children-of-the- Sun, or descendants of incest, i.e., of Lot and his daughters). And Israel dwelt in Heshbon (closing-of-the-year), the city of Sihon, king of the Amorites. Hence, the proverb: " Woe to thee, Moab (wash-pot = end of winter); thou art undone, O people of Chemosh (depression = winter). Heshbon is perished even unto Dibon " (end of the year), where the Sun's south declination comes to nought, and the days and nights become of equal length. From Dibon (spring equinox) Moses sent to spy out Jaazer (whom the Ram helps = the first spring month). Having conquered Jaazer, " they turned and went up by the way of Bashan (Beth-shan = Sun's house- the constellation Leo, or mid-summer). Here they found OG/Gog (long-neck), one of the Anakim, king of Bashan (summer), whom they slew, and possessed his land.

[@YadinZedek777]

They are the son's of the King and/or priests with women who non-elite or non-judean or non-israelites.

[@danjensen8412]

Oh my goodness, please come up with a new tag line Derek. Constantly saying such and such is going to SHOCK US has gotten rather old.

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

That's SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@robertbudriss9308]

What no book of giants from the dead Sea scrolls

[@sargonshukro5819]

Nephlin means falen, jaient is gabron is not the same as nephlin. Gabron is the children of the Nephlin

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

"Nephlin" it's actually Nephilim "means falen" fallen "jaient" it's actually giant "is gabron" it's actually gibborim "is not the same as nephlin. Gabron is the children of the Nephlin" no, Nephilim were children of fallen Angels and are described as gibborim since that just means might/mighty.

[@tookie36]

I once dated a nephilim

[@harveywabbit9541]

Nephele aka cloud became the biblical Nephalim/Nephilim. Note the phil or love in this word. The Church of Philadelphia or brotherly love is the sign Gemini. This is the sign where we find Asher and his children Castor and Pollux. Gemini aka May is where we find the May Pole (phallic) where the young people danced and then went into the woods for a night of worship of the creative forces.

[@santospantoja9144]

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[@DiscernmentNow]

This is Ancient Jewish mysticism, Kabbalah. It’s not biblical.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Nephilim aka clouds are associated with the five winter signs (flood of Noah) as the rainy season. The fiery serpent is lightning. The rain drops were the tears of Zeus. see tale of Zeus and Nephele. The five winter signs are also the five sons of Shem aka Scorpio thru Pisces. see Rev. 9.5.

[@jonyspinoza3310]

🌞

[@bradlyclark8943]

Why couldn't it be a very specific "wink and nod" to the Gilgamesh story? How are you "2/3" God and "1/3" human? Well the Sons of God mate with the daughters of men. 2/3!! I think they do it with the serpent in Eden and the birds in Noah. I think it's a "wink and a nod" on purpose to a very specific story in order to better legitimize their own story.

[@meatloafhead]

Wait who? Professor semen?😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@Darisiabgal7573]

You had to go there.

[@waynesaban2607]

All the giants came from only one nation……the imagination

[@KenAmmi-Shalom]

What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles? What’s your usage? Do those two usages agree?

[@joewhip9303]

Total made up mythology. The Lord of the Rings is more convincing than this stuff.

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

"Total made up mythology" is a merely asserted positive affirmation so you're being illogical. Is there anything wrong with being illogical, on your worldview?

[@js1423]

You should have on Dr. Amar Annus for this discussion!

[@KrishnaKumari-zh9wb]

In hindhu religion average age of human being in kaliyuga is 125 year .i think bible copied from charming religions

[@sandy11469]

so actually it wasnt that humans would only live to 120 as we clearly see they lived much longer it was they has 120 years until the flood would come..its all made up either way but at least understand the story.

[@sjoerdpasterkamp9826]

B E O W U L F old english poem denum eallum weard ceaster buendum cenra ghewylcum eorlum ealu scerwen

[@matte205]

Haha so credulous !

[@alg11297]

Anyone who can read Hebrew knows it's pronounced Ne-Fee-Lin

[@jrgvsqz]

There were no vowels in Hebrew

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

Anyone who can read Hebrew knows it's pronounced Ne-Fee-Lim: the "im" ending in Hebrew makes a word male plural: it's not "in."

[@alg11297]

@jrgvsqz okay, so how do YOU pronounce it?

[@KenAmmi-www.truefreethinker]

@@alg11297 Ne-Fee-Lim

[@rodmymendoza7185]

All I hear is blah, blah blah. Evidence?? Ah old bronze age myth books

[@jamin4680]

Gods plan sucks. Lol

[@DiscernmentNow]

This is Gnosticism. You are teaching lies.

[@dirtypickle77]

Its all fiction, stories from peoples that didnt understand the world. Especially the religions in the world that still believe in the absurdities.

[@ardalla535]

You've been taught to hate Gnostics. They are no more to be reviled than the orthodox creeds. How many people died due to the dogma of the One True Church vs the Gnostics? Not even close.

[@harryhagman6063]

DID JESUS OF NAZARETH REALLY DID THE PERFORMING OF MIRACLES LIKE HEALING THE BLIND EYES THE DEAF THE SICK AND INFIRMTIES RAISING THE DEAD PEOPLE ❓️👍👀

[@harveywabbit9541]

Yes, Jesus the sun of the zodiac (Nazareth) does this by coming out of the southern hemisphere (winter) and rising in the northern hemisphere (summer). Happens every year at Pass Over.