Oris Aquis Calibre 400 vs Omega Seamaster Professional

I think the Omega is the better overall watch, and the better first luxury purchase. It is also quite a bit more expensive than the Oris, so that should be expected. I think the Oris 400 is in a class of its own. There really isn't a competitor that comes to mind that offers more at the same price. Oris continues to be a value proposition.
Stay tuned for my follow ups on the Oris 400. I'm doing a 30 day test on daily accuracy, the 120 hour power reserve, as well discussing the 'hacking jump' niggle that rears its' head from time to time. You can see it happen at the 4:27 and the 11:36 mark of this video
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[@ElliotDrinksWater]

Haters: "Oris should use in-house movements with better specs" Oris: *does exactly that The Same Haters: "Wow, too expensive! I'd rather buy a Rolex homage for that price"

[@BruceWilliams]

You win the comments section! This is 100 percent accurate. We are among the silliest and most fickle of a consumer base there is. Never satisfied, and most of us are all talk lol

[@ElliotDrinksWater]

@@BruceWilliams for real lol, great video and I'm glad you made it. Tbh I never understood how people thought that Oris was trying to compete with Omega and Tudor. Personally I don't see that at all, Oris is killing it in this price bracket and I think they know it.

[@mannycalavera2335]

"Rolex homage" XD. Shots fired.

[@jeanlefranc3817]

So true. IWC, Omega, Breitling reviews are full of comments like « oh, if it were 2 mm smaller, I would buy it instantly » coming from guys with one SKX, a Steinhart and a 60$ Casio in the drawer. Hilarious !

[@contaygious]

So on point. Every aquis video is like this is perfect but needs a better movement lol

[@evh4611]

This new inhouse movement by Oris is the beginning of a new era for the brand. I feel they will slowly be creeping up as a luxury brand. Plus, Oris is an independent brand. Let that sink in ...

[@NicholasSadlier]

I recently picked up the Oris at an AD and was hugely impressed and surprised by the build quality. I was then shown a Tag but the Oris blew it away in terms of look and feel. Also love the bracelet.

[@alamore5084]

Oris over a Tag every time!

[@Jeff-11_354]

My Aquis has a SW200 and runs +/- 3 secs a day without the hacking issue. This is why I don't jump on the in house bandwagon. Love the Aquis bracelet too 👍

[@deansusec8745]

Im going to get one also. The value prospect is off the charts! Same case and build quality, cheaper servicing.

[@trollse8714]

Mine runs between +4 and +8 (I wear it all the time, even to sleep), so don't expect and insane accuracy

[@MPerry-ox9qb]

The Oris new inhouse movement and 10 year warranty is amazing at $3,500 & falls in line with Tudor. Although at 43.5 mm I'd rather have the Black Bay 58. If the 400 came in the 39.5 mm case I'd probably go with the Oris, with the only downside being proprietary lugs. Love where Oris is going.

[@likeDC79]

Don't know if anyone else mentioned this already. But METAS certification is 0 / +5 seconds a day. Not the same as the Aquis movement

[@nicholass9591]

I just love the Omega seamaster, everything about it. I own a vintage Bond era one and love the vintage styling and looks... the beating it has taken over the years has given it even more character and I like that as well. You cannot deny the quality of the Oris, though, especially with the new caliber. I have to say that one must recognize that they are in their respective price brackets and there is a place in the market for both. It really boils down to preference, mine resides in the Seamaster since it has withstood the test of time

[@BruceWilliams]

I agree, the Seamaster since the Bond era that began in the mid 90s... Omega really found thier groove. Original and powerful

[@Dragon_rls]

Thank you for posting Bruce. I recently purchased the Oris Aquis calibre 400 34.5 blue. I am not a bonafide watch collector, but this was to commemorate the closing of my first home purchase, and I set a sizable budget for my purchase. The Omega sea master was definitely in the realm of possibilities, but my decision to go for the Aquis was based on its appearance, and specs. Quite honestly, to give you an idea of my personal tastes, the #1 runner up was a (undecided model) Ball watch. What sealed the deal was I have no local Ball A.D.s within 500 miles of my home, and I was not in the mood to spend my weekend on a road trip. To anyone who cares. I have a 8.25 inch wrist, and the 43.5 Oris Aquis cal 400 looks like it was made to be on it. I could not be happier with it. Maybe a ball next year? ' don't see a sea master in my future.

[@scottwexlin6456]

Morning Bruce. Seven months with my Omega SMP in Blue. My daily driver, mostly. As you and I have discussed, accuracy varies from -3 to +5, depending on how I store it overnight. This watch doesn't like to sit around, the more it's worn, the more accurate it is. Actually better than my Air King, which is +3.5/day, no matter how much or little it's worn, or how it's stored. As for the Oris, it really is a beautiful watch. But it wouldn't get any wrist for me, since I have the Omega.

[@BruceWilliams]

I don't blame you with that lovely duo

[@contaygious]

I'm an omega guy all day with many and I still prefer aquis to seamaster for comfort and design. I find myself wearing my reef all the freskong time

[@MaxEspinotti]

I agree with you, i love the comfort, design and color of my aquis hulk (green one), my tag's and omega's are becoming jealous, lol.

[@dparis2172]

10 is "roughly" double 5? I can't keep up with this new math.

[@AlanHe12]

Great comparison here and totally agree! The Omega is definitely the better overall watch while the Oris is a really competitive option as a “high end beater” that you can bring with you on vacations and travel with. The under the radar brand name/cache really works in its favor in that way, especially if you’re going somewhere less mainstream on a trip. The wonky minutes setting when pulling the crown out is a bit concerning but I’m looking forward to your 30 day assessment.

[@darrenjames6069]

Great review.I have the same seamaster you featured in the video.I was considering the new Oris caliber but due to stumbling across the lake Baikal I purchased it because of the dial.During my conversation with the dealer,I mentioned to him that if the Baikal dial was available with the caliber 400 I would not have hesitated to spend the extra money.I wear my seamaster quite regularly and couldn't be happier with it.Thanks again.

[@JustBrowsing00]

While Oris manufacturing in house movement is applauded, at this time, I would opt for COSC certified, proven, more prestigious Omega. For similar price chronometer Black Bay also better option imho. Would consider Oris in few years when all the tweaks are worked out and either chronometer or COSC certified.

[@BruceWilliams]

Black Bay is a great option too no doubt. A bit more though in price

[@mich6425]

Great to spend more money if your demanding too much. I'm going to buy myself a Longines hydroconquest ceramic in green brushed dial.

[@KevinHuangPhasorQuantaG]

The boutique in my city has Oris and Omega watches sitting side by side and I opted for the Aquis because of how unique it is. As someone who already owns Hamilton and Omega watches, I wanted to break out of the Swatch Group.

[@bobpage6597]

I own a Calibre 400 Oris which got on Tuesday. From my own testing, it seems to be more down to how you set the time in terms of pressure. i.e if I was gentle in popping out the crown and putting it back in, I didn't get any jump with the hand. If I handled the crown more forcefully in or out then I got some jumping - not all the time though it has to be said. As long as I am gentle, I don't get any jumps. I've read up that other movements with large power reserves seem to suffer from a bit of a jump with the watch hand - Oris are not the only ones who have this "quirk". Given how little I need to set the time on my watches anyway, it doesn't actually bother me. I'm satisifed that as long as I'm gentle on the crown, its fine.

[@theonlyredspecial]

The newer versions have sorted that. I bought the new 4000 meter diver. That issue isn’t there now.

[@bobpage6597]

@@theonlyredspecial Yeah they introduced a fixed model of the movement. I still have the original Calibre 400 from when it first game out - it doesn't bother me anymore, I've found a way to work the watch so the hand doesn't really jump as much, sometimes it doesn't even jump at all :)

[@theonlyredspecial]

@@bobpage6597I watched a watchmakers video on this problem and he said if you slightly unwind the crown before snapping it back in it won’t happen. Glad they seemed to fix it - I never paid much attention to ORIS until recently.

[@vanillapaste9671]

Patiently waiting for the 39.5mm Aquis w/ the new movement.

[@craigdlazarus]

Omega is still a level above but love the Aquis and the direction Oris is heading...thx Bruce...keep 'em coming...

[@DrRolexPhD]

I know this is circumstantial evidence, but the caliber 8900 in my Aqua Terra has been running +-0 seconds per day for the last 2 weeks. Since I bought it, I've recorded how slow or fast it is whenever I set it against atomic time. It's usually -1 second every 7 days. It's absolutely insane. And the last 2 weeks is 0 seconds off (I set it 2 weeks ago and it's still EXACTLY in sync with atomic time).

[@matthewhill3996]

I have an omega aqua terra. And think the value in the oris is more present than in the omega. Just an opinion. W/ the Oris, The in house, upgraded movement eberyone was after, well they did it. Now they do it.....and it’s not good enough 🤷‍♀️.

[@rpm8865]

Best comment on here

[@eamonhennessy9327]

Brilliant, very insightful review of the Oris Calibre 400 vs the infamous Omega Seamaster 300

[@markplayford5836]

I own an Oris Aquis (okay not the one with the new movement), but I would choose the Seamaster every time. I do love it dearly but the Omega is a class act and worth the extra cash. Been honest though the Aqua Terra now would be my choice as the Aquis covers the classy diver section. By the way, your review of the Aqua Terra was great Bruce. 👍

[@rushman13]

I have the chrome dial SMP300m and considering the cal. 400 (my AD just messaged me last week)...however, I’m hoping they’ll release it in the 41.5mm size sometime soon. Any news on the next piece getting this movement? Thanks and great video!

[@sodapop1999]

Really enjoy your reviews. Thanks from Singapore

[@BruceWilliams]

I appreciate that!

[@pth8888]

I owned a Christopher Ward C60 Trident Professional with their SH21 movt. It is 5 days PR, COSC, 500m WR, ceramic bezel, 5 yrs warranty and priced lower than Oris cal 400. Most importantly it doesn’t has the minute hand quirk. Note the SH21 is double barrels as well.

[@tynchytemper9618]

Isn't it 600m WR?

[@calumpatondrone]

The seamaster looks amazing! I can see the attraction of the Oris, but I'm not sure I would want to pay that amount of money for the minute hand to jump when setting the time! I wish in their standard version they would regulated the sw200 to cosc levels - its always stopped me from pulling the trigger

[@alamore5084]

Agree, a regulated Sellita or dare I say it a higher calibre ETA would do the trick. I'd be quite happy then.

[@ericsherer3505]

I like everything about the Seamaster except the skeleton hands. I really liked the Seamaster you had your watch maker fix that was an older version .

[@chriskammerer221]

Nice review. This is definitely a disruptive piece from Oris here: undercutting more expensive competitors with a high-value offer.

[@harry_smith]

I think the price is king here. We have the Oris available at £2700 here in the UK, and the Tudor BB58 is £2760 on bracelet. The Omega is another level up, but for the sake of £60 here in the UK you will almost always go for the Tudor

[@timefliesby-jleo474]

Monta Oceanking, 3 patents. Clasp, bezel, and bezel insert click spring. Great size, -5/+5 sec/day(Sw300), glide lock clasp, 5year service($300) long lasting lume, just hits all the boxes as a affordable introduction to micro brand Swiss luxury. Cheers!

[@rpm8865]

Do you like Monta’s new watch...the Noble?

[@dillonm4794]

Bruce did you mean the minute hand moves backwards a little upon hacking? I swear the watch goes from 10:02 to 10:01 when you pull the crown out.

[@timehill556]

A really informative and balanced review which takes in aspects of each watch that I would not have considered. Thank you, Bruce. Oris needs to address the jumping minute issue.

[@Alex_Fung]

They really need to fix the jumping minute hand especially at this price point.

[@DirkWerning]

Great comparison. And the Aquis is on my list and has been fur a bit to check out.

[@watchchat]

SMP 300 hands down, by a long shot :-). BUT...it does make a compelling case.

[@jayowen4526]

Great vid Bruce and as a Seamster owner, I think you’ve given it a fair crack... although, I believe that the movement is regulated to 0 a +5 as part of the METAS certification. Nevertheless, a great episode and a comparison I was dead keen to see. No doubting the beauty of that Oris either; absolutely stunning piece. Another great episode!

[@BruceWilliams]

Very true, I misspoke there. I should have gone into this video with some notes

[@jayowen4526]

@@BruceWilliams Apologies, I should’ve looked at the comments before pointing it out. No notes needed Bruce, a minor blemish in what was an awesome episode. Any chance you can review a Jaeger LeCoultre Polaris date, ref 9068180. Stunning watch that happens to keep popping up on Insta. Fascinated to see where you’d situate this amongst the Rolex Submariners and Glashütte SeaQs of this world. At £9000 it seems that it would fall around this price point. Don’t hear much about it though. I mean, I’m not 100% sure it even meets all of the traditional specs to be a diver?

[@BruceWilliams]

@@jayowen4526 I would love to. I need a contact that deals in JLC. I've found ADs are more willing to lend watches than the manufactures themselves. I love the watchmaker's watchmaker

[@ChiTownTx]

I own a Seamaster but I also have always been a fan of Oris. That being said I think Oris has done an excellent job with their latest offering. Especially for it's price point. My only complaint is the 43.5mm size. 42mm is the absolute max I can pull off with my wrist size. Honestly I think if Oris can shave this down to 42mm, or even better 40mm I think they will have a homerun with this one.

[@mannycalavera2335]

One thing we can not determine now is how the movement will perform long term. We have seen it recently in other brands that launched in-house movements as well. The Tudor Black Bay GMT is a good example of that. Omega, when it started to implement the co-axial escapement their movements were not as reliable then as they are now. Being an early adopter of any new movement is always a bit of a risk.

[@BruceWilliams]

Very true, it took Omega years and a number of tweaks to get the idea of co-axial tech flushed out

[@greenerick]

Deal breaker bloody hell shocked about that 😳 Thanks Great video

[@BruceWilliams]

Yeah, I think it will keep most watch enthusiasts from pulling the trigger.

[@ElliotDrinksWater]

Yeah, that was little disappointing. I don't think they should've gone with the double-barrel. Especially since its automatic, tbh something like 70 hours would've been plenty okay. But don't sleep on the Sellita Aquis, I've been happy with mine and have never had any issues with it. Out the factory I was getting -5/+1. But I had my watchmaker regulate it to within -1/+2 and it's held that for several months with no issue so far.

[@Faben202]

That dial on the Aquis is stunning. I considered it briefly a few months ago but went in a different direction. May have to look at it again in the future.

[@jordanmenczer5662]

Great review Bruce! Have you experienced accuracy issues at a low power reserve due to the single barrel in the Seamaster? Thanks for your response!

[@BruceWilliams]

I hadn't. The Seamaster is consistently accurate in level of power reserve except when sitting dial up for several hours.

[@markedfortime]

I'm surprised the omega was running +8 spd. Mine is spot on..maybe 10sec per month. The quick adjust us the best out there IMO. I have an aquis and love the watch...without their new movement. I wish the new movement didn't have the jumping issue. I can't buy the new movement with this issue...not at the premium they're asking. Great comparison review.

[@BruceWilliams]

Its only fast if set dial up. Its common from what I've found.

[@LuisFranciscoAguilar]

I much prefer the Aquis design. The SM300 it's all over the place, like a carnival watch.

[@dparis2172]

No doubt.

[@mmadchef808]

Agreed....something about the Omega looks off.

[@ronanderson7843]

Great, honest comparison review. Thanks, Bruce. You helped me find the right Aquis for me.

[@marcdee4427]

What about the fantastic ageless ceramic bezel on the omega? 👌😎👋. Also Bruce the tag heuer aqua racer is a cheaper alternative to the omega

[@BruceWilliams]

I love the ceramic! Pretty and practical

[@scottwexlin6456]

To clarify, I also confirm what you said about the Omega - if I store it dial up, it will run +5/day. Store it crown up, and it's about -2-3/day.

[@BruceWilliams]

Yeah very minor thing! Its nice to know about too, because the 'remedy' is so easy. Rest in another position or put it in a winder when resting

[@John..18]

Yep,. I've experimented with all positions (for my seamaster, lol, ) for overnight, and crown up , is the best, and dial up is the worst,,, at the moment, I'm getting around +2s per day, crown up.. Great comparison,,,. Atb ...

[@anildamodar8142]

@@John..18 doesn't storing it crown up overnight mess up the mechanism in the long run.. Just asking so that i can do it as well.. Was worried abt tat

[@scottwexlin6456]

@@anildamodar8142 I've never heard that. I don't think it has any adverse affects. But I"m not an expert!

[@John..18]

@@anildamodar8142 I sincerely hope not, where did you hear that, ?? You've got me worried now, !!

[@Occuparencycom]

The Oris bracelet, although lacking micro adjustment, is much better finished than the Omega bracelet. The Omega has very sharp, 90-degree edges that look good in ads but scratch up wrists like no other. I’ve owned every iteration of the SMP and the original Bond had the most finished, silky bracelet and links. The new bracelets are made in China. I would take an Oris over an SMP for this reason.

[@BruceWilliams]

I think a lot of Swiss made components are actually made in China and then assembled in Switzerland. Kinda silly

[@MrDands]

Love both, got both.

[@acolour]

I am sure someone has already stated the fix for the "quirk" but you simply set the time ahead a bit and roll the crown back the other direction and the "problem" goes away. Christopher Ward actually advises this as the most accurate way to set the time and their watches don't even have this issue.... something to think about.

[@cubex68]

Great review and I got corrected for my ignorance. Thanks Bruce. Keep up the good work

[@BruceWilliams]

No worries man! I make mistakes regularly

[@seanmcginnis4112]

It seems like the only Oris anyone ever talks about is the Aquis. Why is that?

[@BruceWilliams]

I've reviewed the Divers Sixty Five, the Big Crown Pointer Date, and the PPX on the channel, but the Aquis is my personal favorite. I've heard it sells the best as well.

[@triniboy05]

People love dive watches.

[@ElliotDrinksWater]

Its arguably one of the nicest watches in its price point. Also its a totally original and unique design. There are no watches like the Aquis, there's just the Aquis.

[@Tangylives]

I like the PPX most out of their range :(

[@ElliotDrinksWater]

@@Tangylives PPX is an amazing watch! That watch and the Zenith Defy skeleton are hands down the nicest openworks watches out there

[@Wevaah]

I know that Oris will eventually put these movements into smaller models but I wish that Omega would make the midsize models again as I own the midsize SMP 300M from the previous generation and it's been my daily ever since. Although if they made a midsize of the current gen I'd buy it in a heartbeat, especially the beautiful two tone models.

[@BruceWilliams]

I wonder why they stopped with the mid size? 42 is a little too big for many

[@Wevaah]

@@BruceWilliams I dont know why to be honest. It's not like the movement cant fit because it fits into the ladies Aqua Terra and at my Omega AD they even agreed that Omega should make some smaller version even if it isnt 36mm make it 38mm or 39mm, they also sell a ton of Black Bay 58s and they said that people like the size of the 58 more than the SMP 300M, so Omega is sitting on a gold mine but just hadn't done anything about it.

[@BruceWilliams]

@@Wevaah Hopefully we see a smaller version make it to market!

[@shuycg]

What Bruce's wrist size?

[@DrRolexPhD]

Bruce why don't you have the seamaster? Did you sell it?

[@JozzipB]

My aquis with sellita is -2 sec/day. Consistent since I bought it almost half year ago.

[@EEE-1409]

Great review Bruce. As you say, the two watches are not really comparable when you consider their price. I would be interested to see how the Aquis compares to the Tudor BB58 though!

[@acolour]

How is this video 2 years old, didn't the 400 just come out, like within months?

[@Disinf3ctant]

I don't know if I just got an usually perfect version but my 8800 is quartz like. Doesn't gain or lose enough time for me to even perceive it

[@joshrosey]

Bruce, great video, do you miss your SMP? Are you ever planning to get another in the future maybe in a different colour?

[@Ryguy6894]

What happened to your Seamaster, Bruce? Do you not own it anymore?

[@BruceWilliams]

No it was sacrificed with some other watches when I bought the VC Overseas

[@BruceWilliams]

@john dandola VC, Hulk, Sapphire Sandwich, and I have a Seiko SPB187 inbound. Contemplating the next purchase

[@Watchmade]

Definitely Omega. Beside +\- seconds and further technical specs, I think another main point is that you get the story, history and present buzz of the Omega. I don’t say that Oris has no history or stories to tell but next to the Submariner the Seamaster is the most iconic and famous diver right now. It‘s kind of different league to compare.

[@watchdogpodcast239]

The Aquis has always been too shiny and shimmery for my tastes. I would personally choose other options at this price point. Integrated bracelet is a downfall for me as well. The jumping minute shouldn't bother me, but I'm just too neurotic haha. I know it would lol. Omega for me. I'd keep my previous gen Seamaster over this as well. Great review

[@veyuslavic2590]

This has been a very difficult decision for me because I'd like a diver to take on fishing charters (as I will not wear my two tone Submariner on a boat) and I can't figure out which one to get. My collection already has an Omega as I recently acquired a Speedmaster. I know in my mind that the Seamaster has the better pedigree but God damn the Aquis dial is magnificent - not to mention the bracelet on the Aquis is also more visually appealing.

[@JB-xt3ly]

Not a big fan of the SMP’s bezel feel and action, it could be much better. I have always liked Oris but will probably wait until they put that calibre in another model. Thanks for the content Bruce

[@billydedou38]

Please tell me between Tudor bb gmt “Pepsi” and the seamaster witch one to get in about the same price

[@BruceWilliams]

I like the seamaster more personally

[@marvinberwart]

Very nice video Bruce, you make some great points about the Aquis but, given how big and shiny it is, I think it definitly doesn't fly under the radar. Granted, as a watch enthusiast, Oris does have that independent, low key image but the watch itself totally nullifies that in my view. I would love to like it, I like an understated watch, but even in this aspect, the Omega does a better job imho. Too bad.

[@BruceWilliams]

Fly under the radar in a name brand recognition way. Though I've found I get comments on any watch I wear very very rarely.

[@marvinberwart]

@@BruceWilliams Very true, we watch nuts tend to live in a parralel universe where watches and their details actually mater😆. It still is a great hobby though, and a pleasure to share with others, especially with refined enthusiasts like you Bruce. Thanks for taking the time responding and keep the vids coming... we are in lockdown for at least a month and a half more here in Belgium so I definitly appreciate your productivity👍👏

[@seattlegrrlie]

I like that it doesn't have the cache. I can wear my Rolex if I want to impress. Oris sounds like the perfect vacation watch. Doesn't scream you have money, won't care if it gets lost or stolen... I mean you care but...

[@mariobianchi1909]

I like them both but to be honest the Oris is much more "fresh" design and has much more useful technologies. To me for Oris to be a standalone brand is a plus too.

[@ashhabibi1196]

You forgot to mention size. Oris is 43.5mm vs omega 42mm.

[@BruceWilliams]

Good point

[@bfcfan2739]

It doesn't wear that big . Tried one on yesterday and looked smaller than my black bay s and g. Great piece.

[@jmount411]

I saw that worlds best boss haha i think thats pretty funny. I was going to say Bruce if your in a boss position, you seem like you would be a pretty cool guy to work for. Love both watches and own a seamaster and have owned a non in-house Oris. Both are great.

[@BruceWilliams]

lol no I got it because I love Mario and thought it was clever

[@stevefox8605]

The jumping minute hand is unforgettable at any price for me. Not a fan of the Aquis, don't like the integrated bracelet & overall it looks a bit bland to me. A shame Oris didn't iron out the fault with the movement & even more of a pity they didn't release a whole new watch, to me they've bunged a half finished engine in an old watch- but with the "quirk" I'd still take it over any Black Bay. Easy win for Omega, not surprising as it thrashes watches double or triple its price. Cheers mate 👍🏻

[@THeinsidethefire16]

omega is better regulated from 0 to +5 !!!

[@garytopley12]

Mine runs at -1 when worn, so the 0 to 5 isn't always correct.

[@ninidini6686]

@@garytopley12 cant be real! its a warranty point if its run -1 !!

[@garytopley12]

@@ninidini6686 Sent it to Omega and they returned it back saying it's operating with manufacturer specs. On the wrist it definitely isn't though!

[@thewatchcount5992]

This Omega, in white, is my current grail (along with the blue dial Zenith Defy). The Aquis is a really tempting offer, but that jumping minute hand really kills it for me... I think that made me settle and stick with my current Sellita one. Upgrading and having that issue just seems not right for me... Hope they fix it someday (however as they don't think of that as an issue, I don't believe they will).

[@BruceWilliams]

I agree Eitan, I don't think changes are coming to it. But who knows?

[@thewatchcount5992]

@@BruceWilliams Yeah, there is still hope haha

[@romangarcia5771]

No se a que calibre de vajo costo utilizado por tissot u certina me recuerda el 400 con áncora u escape de plastico

[@ronintheamazon1492]

My Cartier santos large has same quirk when setting time of minute hand jumping a couple minutes forward

[@chazzcombs]

The design of the Aquis just doesn't do it for me - but that new 400 movement does. If Oris continues with it and drops it in other models I'll probably be a buyer. Between these two, the Seamaster wins for me hands down.

[@John-zv8lz]

It's not always about movement. Not big deal +-3sec or +-15sec per day. If it is we all should looking for a watch over 10k$ from Rolex to Pattek. Omega is the boundary between entery luxury and extra luxury watches. I am an Oris Aquis (spec. with tungste bezel and blue dial) and Bronze 65 diver fan! If Seiko could price their SLA037 6.3k$ with rubber strap and clasp(of 2$), Oris could easily ask 3.5k for this one. Also I put Oris over Seiko.

[@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78]

Helium escape wart had me. I think the aquis with the selita is an excellent entry into luxury. Until they create a new design, it's a new movement not a new watch.

[@eugenhofmann3098]

Eugene 47 Nearly a year ago I bought an ORIS Aquis 400, green model, dia 41 mm. My experiences with the watch are: - nice design - achieving the expected accuracy of +/- 2 seconds / day - after my first week experience; I discovered that the power winding system could not power the watch when waring it from 08 am until 10 pm. I sent it back to ORIS and they could not fix the watch! - after more testing I found: After hand winding the watch - it kept running for 5 days, thereafter stopped running - although I have been wearing the watch the whole day. I sent my observations & complaints by letter to ORIS and have returned my ORIS for the second time to the factory with the request to explain to me why this watch cannot power up the watch. I have many other automatic Swiss watches - and they all work perfectly except the ORIS. - THE CEO called and explained to me that the watch indeed is critical in the sense of powering up. Later he called me second time and explained to me that the watch his been checked again by their watch maker and has been qualified by ORIS as ok. After receiving the watch - it still did not power up as an automatic watch should. CONCLUSIONS: - nice watch - runs very accurate when powered be hand - the automatic winding systems fails to power the watch, in my view this design needs to be labelled as a manual watch. All explanations received by ORIS are not satisfactory as the root cause of not powering the watch with the installed winding simply remains. Their explanations are very irritating and not customer friendly. May I suggest all owners of an AQUIS 400 to make their experiences with this watch available to the public.

[@albertoechevarria947]

Aquis vs Aquaracer??

[@Dragon_rls]

Still would take to Oris over the Omega. I’m fact, I did. Money was not the problem. Just couldn’t get past the Oris.

[@bani_niba]

The Aquis can't use 3rd-party watch straps due to that proprietary connector to its metal bracelet. That is a big negative to me.

[@BruceWilliams]

True you are limited to OEM options

[@MrHyde14537]

Negates the whole benefit of a quick release!

[@erich9882]

A quick search on Etsy will give you a large variety of custom straps. Definitely give it a look because with the OEM rubber strap and other aftermarket custom leather options you can find whatever you want

[@MrHyde14537]

@@erich9882 yeah, but I would ideally like to make use of my current, existing collection of nato, rubber and leather straps than having to get new similar bespoke ones.

[@bigidiot123]

Would have been nice if Oris put a little decoration on their new movement...

[@williamrizzo1285]

I have the 8900 movement in my Aqua Terra that has 60 hour power Reserve compared to the 8800.

[@jacquesbothma6936]

The Oris seems flat and boring.... seamaster for sure.

[@dparis2172]

I thought similar for a long time - what's the big deal about Oris? Boring. That was until I started seeing Oris' in the metal. They are beautiful and well proportioned. Not too much nor too little in any area. The Seamaster on the other hand looks cool, but in the metal it looks a little gimmicky - like something I could quickly tire of over time.

[@jaysp1910]

More expensive than a black bay 58 is pushing it. In the UK the difference is $80 on a bracelet .

[@furiousg1904]

A think, Technically Oris is better than Omega, specially if then is less expensive. Omega have a better finish and certifications to backup. Then Oris vs Tissot is an even battle.

[@adamgiordano30]

Oris is better looking IMO

[@adamgiordano30]

@@kulasnikov3875 exactly. I hate those high polish links going through either side. Looks extremely out dated.

[@Kaiju007]

Owned the Aquis Source of Life and now the Seamaster in white. The Oris is more of a dress watch to be honest. Tapering bracelet, high polish coin edge on the bezel as well as the links on the bracelet except the mid-links. It’s too bling! The Seamaster is more of a classic sport watch!

[@rpm8865]

You can get the Aquis with the all brushed bracelet if you would like

[@watchyourstyle]

Why did you sell your Seamaster 😩😩

[@BruceWilliams]

To buy a VC overseas. No regrets

[@watchyourstyle]

@@BruceWilliams ok I forgive you 😆

[@olemanolete1]

Omega always Omega, and the Seamaster is the Master of the Watches

[@LiquidSm0ke]

Can’t watch due to your lisp

[@MultiEd71]

Omega is from the Swatch group oris is in houe

[@michaelriera6277]

Aquai???

[@BruceWilliams]

Or is it like Lego where the singular and the plural are the same?

[@bulentkurt1955]

AQUİS CALİBRE 400 🚀

[@kyawlinhtoo4554]

Omega is metas certified 0 to +5

[@zillsburyy1]

only thing oris wins in is power reserve

[@dparis2172]

And warranty and service intervals. And price...

[@mmadchef808]

And aesthetics. I love Omega but man that thing is ugly.

[@N7Sound]

Next one: Oris vs Patek Oris fanboys: I prefer the Oris, Patek is an obvious choice 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@gutsynin6156]

Omega does not have anything on Oris looks-wise. I just find the Omega Seamaster very ugly, the wart and that bracelet doesn't help either. If I have to nit-pick the Aquis though, I would like to see an on-the-fly adjustment clasp and maybe a better designed/decorated rotor. I would certainly pay more to get those.

[@romangarcia5771]

Donde vas a comparar omega coaxial con la mierda del 400 si el 400 sale con problemas da saltos la saeta al tirar de la corona si el 6r35 de seiko es mejor que el 400 oris no hay donde comparar el brazalete del omega ya vale más que todo el reloj oris 400 si parece de juguete o chinrse

[@romangarcia5771]

No hay ni por donde empezar la comparación estas comparando un Ferrari, omega coaxial, con un audi a4 oris