Ortlieb's Updated Bikepacking Range for 2021 - Part II

[@mazditzo]

always hoping ortlieb gonna give us bright and colorfull inner layer for al their bag, it’s struggle when looking for something in the dark

[@PeterBalssuweit]

Why these adapters? Imagine a forkpack directly boltet to the fork for insane drag savings.... I dont buy these.

[@gravelagogo]

Great job on this video. Very informative. Thank you.

[@born7thjuly]

Imagine that great handlebar bag if you could attach it to the saddle like a classic Carradice.

[@jacekjackowski3947]

Regarding fork pack, I prefer plus version made of Cordura which is better material then this nylon used in bikepacking series.

[@Foxr6]

Can't wait to get my QR bag!!!!

[@samuraioodon]

Couple questions, can bar bag be lower for aero bars? Can seat bag strap on carbon rails and seatpost? Thanks!

[@LyonCycle]

No, you'd struggle to mount the QR pack lower but a traditional Handle-Bar Pack (9L) will work fine. Regarding carbon post and rails and the Seat-Pack... structurally there isn't anything to worry about as long as the seat-post has a normal round shape but it would be worth taping contact points first to protect your investment! It's remarkable how much a bit of grit can wear a component if there's a bit of movement ;-)

[@icas80]

Greta review! Sealed the deal for me with teh QR bar bag

[@egmontmika5014]

This bag could be the perfect handlebar bag for me. Unfortunately, though, it doesn't go with a carbon frame. Why is this downside not mentioned in the review?

[@stevenblagburn3951]

Why doesn't it work with carbon Frame

[@egmontmika5014]

@@stevenblagburn3951 The buckles and straps are not made for a carbon handlebar, they would damage it. Check with Ortlieb's description!

[@stevenblagburn3951]

@@egmontmika5014 oh ok. You said carbon frame which confused me. That makes sense. Thanks

[@solitaryrefinement6787]

What a brilliant handlebar bag with a moronic attachment system. Whoever designed it obviously doesn't ride a bike (especially on rough roads). That thing is going to get shaken loose as the cordage stretches over time. And the fork bags? Plastic attachments? Another fail especially for something that can't be mounted to what 90% of bikes are coming with today ("carbon" forks). Good luck accessing that top tube bag when you're tired and wearing gloves after hours of riding and one's dexterity is low. Ortlieb, if you're reading this, PLEASE reconsider what I've pointed out. Again, I LOVE that handlebar bag but it's screaming fail to me the attachment point. And the accessability into the handlebar bag is the opposite of the top tube frame bag. Where the handlebar bag is hands free practically, I see accessing the top tube bag a one-handed task because it needs to be kept open. The backpack is unnecessarily complicated. No one who needs to access something at the bottom of a pack is going to mind having to take everything out of it to get to it because it'll be their least used item(s) (sleep system, shelter, etc...). I bet it's twice as heavy as it needs to be.

[@LyonCycle]

Interesting thoughts! So one thing I didn't mention in the video is that the cords are made out of dyneema, which by its nature absorbs very little water and has next to no stretch. I've used the system quite a bit and have been mightily impressed by how solid it stays on the bars! A lot of carbon forks on gravel bikes come with triple cage mounts - case in point is the Salsa Cutthroat in this video uses a carbon fork which the brackets mount to easily. If you have a carbon fork without mounts you'd struggle to mount anything to the fork stays, whether it uses a plastic bracket or not. The Atrack is definitely outside the norm and makes more sense in use. Even if you're not bothered about having to unload your pack to get to some of your belongings, the simple fact it is a submersible fact gives it a huge USP. There's a good number of pro photographers in the bike world using this pack because they can chuck all their kit in their without having to worry about anything getting damaged in inclement conditions. Sure, it's not the lightest bag on the market but none of Ortlieb's product is designed to be the lightest. Instead, they prefer to focus on durability and waterproofness. That said, this 25L pack weighs 1300g. Evoc' Explorer Pro is 26L and weighs 1250g. It might have more compartments but it isn't submersible, so it comes down to user preference!

[@solitaryrefinement6787]

@@LyonCycle I'm very familiar with Dyneema. I come from a backpacking background, but it's inevitable, it's just physics. It's a wonder material, but they stretch. Maybe I misheard you in the video, but you said that these mounting brackets are not useable on carbon forks? Personally, I actually prefer more bombproof gear so having a little more weight isn't an issue for me. As for the mounting brackets, if they're plastic, popping them off & on and off & on will wear them down prematurely especially when carrying loads (a lot more than the aluminum options out there). The video you guys did on Ortleib's bags was AWESOME. These just look like a step backwards to me. Again, I'm a backpacker and a biker just getting into adventure cycling combining the two. I use my packs at least a hundred days out of the year easy. I've been through the fads. If they combine that bar bag with a KlickFix type mount or their already great Ultimate 6 mount, it'd be perfect.

[@icas80]

@@solitaryrefinement6787 SO when it streches the tiny bit it does over time you have to what...tkae out a few more mil of slack?

[@davidthomson1529]

@@icas80 Don't try to argue with @SolitaryRefinement guy. He knows the system won't work despite all the reviews and the fact that he's never seen it or touched it. It's just physics.... Just ordered mine. Looks like a winner to me.