Oscar Snubs 2015: Who Got Screwed?! - MOVIE FIGHTS!

[@brohoelikeacholo]

Lego movie not being nominated was a travesty, it was a beautiful film that was completely unique and in a genre of its own. It should have won best animated picture but somehow didn't even get nominated.

[@swanpride]

Question: How many of the movies which actually did get nominated did you watch?

[@brohoelikeacholo]

swanpride All of them except for Song of The Sea

[@brohoelikeacholo]

swanpride And I've seen The Secret of Kells: spiritual predecessor of Song of The Sea, both made by Tomm Moore and Cartoon Salon.

[@swanpride]

brohoelikeacholo And you honestly thing that the Lego movie was a shoe in for best animated picture? That is is so much better than all of those nominees? Boxtrolls aside (which was most likely nominated because they wanted a stop-motion movie in the mix), I can see all of them win and wouldn't complain about it (Though I secretly hope that one of the traditional animated movies will take it this year).

[@brohoelikeacholo]

If anything - when people think back to the animated films released in 2014 they'll think of The Lego Movie where its likely all the others will be forgotten.

[@cobb541]

Who got screwed ? Christopher Nolan got screwed !! BUT It's not because I'm Batman. It's because he's the director the world deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll screw him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our favourite director. He's a silent artist, a watchful mastermind. A fucking genius.

[@MrMichaelVoorhees]

Well said

[@1krani]

Or, he's the next M. Night Shyamalan who's in the middle of his "debatably bad" phase. Interstellar was his The Village. Dark Knight Rises was his Signs. No clue what he's doing next, because his IMDb page says the only thing he's doing now is serving as executive producer of Batman v Superman.

[@LooneyDude123]

DUN dun dun dun dun BWAAAAAAA dun dun dun dun.

[@Chris_MKII]

Nolan is shit.

[@jojo300001]

1krani M Knight had one good movie.

[@toadmfan2013]

I still can't believe American Sniper was nominated for best picture. What a joke

[@nathanberger7643]

+Hank Hill yes and no

[@thedudeunderyourbed8474]

Why tho

[@dma3d]

Biggest snub,Interstellar.The academy usually doesn't nominate movies with great impact on the audience or the society,they are nominating movies that Oscar-bait and 10 years from now nobody will care about,thats why!!

[@JohnSpawn1]

I can assure you that 10 years from now people (film fans, critics and filmmakers that is) will still care about The Grand Budapest Hotel, Birdman, Whiplash and Boyhood. Interstellar received comparably mixed responses from both critics and audiences. Just go back to listen to the Screenjunkies movie fight debate of the film and you'll see it's true (despite the high imdb rating). Interstellar (along with Dark Knight Rises) is what sparked that whole backlash against Nolan including its silly focus on plot holes.

[@dma3d]

admittingly these movies are quite good but each one for some categories.Interstellar for great all around and deserved at least a best picture nomination.Yes I know there were mixed reviews but most of those that I have watched straight up didn't get many things or the whole concept of the movie.That is why this movie will hold up it is not just an entertaining medium but rather will make you think!

[@anthonywilliams8832]

Dimitrios Phoenix Interstellar just wasn't a very movie.

[@lisamortini8567]

Anthony Williams *good

[@radiofly3r86]

***** I agree, but Hans Zimmer won't win... pretty sure the oscar goes to "The Theory Of Everything" score. That score has a huge momentum going right now.

[@dimavasilev5342]

HANDS DOWN biggest snubs are picking Steve Carrell, Michael Keaton and Bradley Cooper for Best Actor over Miles Teller in Whiplash, David Oyelowo in Selma and Jake Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler. GODDAMN DISGRACE!

[@dimavasilev5342]

Also not for nothing, but why the hell has Pride not got more recognition?? That's the modern Full Monty/Billy Elliott right there! It seriously pisses me off that the Oscars and the Golden Globes have such a USA-centric attitude that awesome international films like Pride get snubbed while frigging social experiments like Boyhood get hailed.

[@stevesb97]

I agree with you on Gyllenhaal, but Cooper absolutely deserved a nomination. He transformed for American Sniper. Kyle's own family commented on how striking it was.

[@saraelizabeth8191]

Miles was great, but he didn't get snubbed from best actor. Maybe a snub from golden globe but not oscar snub. All five of the best actors were amazing. They all portrayed different characters and not one performance was the same. Benedict didn't play himself, and his performance was amazing, even just the last scene. Though I can see that he played a version of his Sherlock. Bradley cooper has proven himself as an actor and his performance was the best part of the film and in each of his three oscar nominated performance, his characters are completely different. Steve's performance was totally underrated. Dans comment that he just put on a fake nose and talked funny just backs up my point that people don't know his performance. Steve deserved that nomination because he completely lost himself in that role. I have never been scared and on the edge of my seat because of a Steve movie, but this movie made me nervous of what was going to happen next. He was fantastic and didn't rely on his comedic side. Michael Keaton was fantastic, and he worked very well with all of the other actors. You could argue that the movie and his performance was an ensemble film, but his performance of a washed up actor was so realistic. By the end you either love or hate this character, and you are also trying to figure out all of the layers of this character. And finally, Eddie's performance. He really only talked during the first have of the film. The rest of the film was just him acting through body movements. He had complete control over every muscle in his body. David and Jake's performances were snubbed, but this was a very hard year for best actor and best supporting actor. Rant over lol

[@AshXXMayftw]

The Lego Movie is a trademark film done right. Not only did it have characters that were funny and that developed but also a story that felt like an adventure. And that climax with The Man Upstairs was done so well it made me feel something. Sure I can say The Book of Life was great and How to Train Your Dragon 2 was also terrific all of which are true but The Lego Movie managed to impress me by being just as engaging as either one of those.

[@Mika20]

I agree completely. To me that was a really touch category because the movies were great. Deep down, I was shocked I even loved the Lego Movie. My cousin had me watch it and little did I know, I was very impressed. Sad it didn't get nominated when it really should, and should win. If a tie was possible, Lego Movie and How to Train your Dragon 2 in a heartbeat. If one, Lego Movie.

[@AshXXMayftw]

Mika20 Yeah I was 21 when The Lego Movie came out and I still loved it. Luckily it seems there will be a sequel with the same director and writers so I'm hoping they can do it all over again for 2017 and get a nomination then.

[@coreym8145]

lego movie is overrated. and the ending was confusing and lasted too long. the only thing that was snubbed was ralph fennes for best actor in grand budapest. but nominations hardly matter when there can only be 1 winner. HTTYD 2 is clearly winning the oscar for animation

[@Mika20]

***** I really hope so. The director did a fantastic job with the movie. :-) I was 27 when I first watched it..to my surprise I would sing the song with my cousin. lol He's 6.

[@AshXXMayftw]

Mika20 Nice, I have the song on my IPod and listen to it when I work out all the time lol.

[@TheBlond49]

Next movie fight: Who is the Best music movie composer? For example: Hans Zimmer, John Williams, James Horner, Alan Silvestri, Ennio Morricone, Steve Jablonski, Howard Shore, John Powell, Danny Elfman, Michael Giaccino, etc.

[@liamarnold2452]

Try tweeting it. That's where they get most of their fights.

[@TheBlond49]

Liam Arnold They have choosen from KZbin comments too.

[@matone1z]

John Williams

[@jasonbrown4526]

Out of that list, I would say Hans Zimmer

[@1krani]

Alan Menken

[@jollyjames491]

Not only did Jake Gyllenhall deserve to be nominated, he deserved to win.

[@SaulFrenchFrenchie]

naah, he didnt

[@doctorwalker6038]

Fuck you yes he did

[@Pau_aart]

If he can't be the winner then who deserves it? Boyhood? Fuck you, Jake Gyllenhall FTW

[@BrianDiCaprio]

SomnusJarocho Boyhood doesn't even have a best actor nominated...

[@dr34mv3iL]

Agree, and ditto for Lego Movie in Animated Feature.

[@bebaguette766]

What an astounding year, maybe the best one ever. Fantastic comedies like Budapest Hotel, 22 Jump Street), best Superhero films in a long while (The best X-men film and the two best MCU films so far), Incredibly tense and smart thrillers (Nightcrawler and Gone girl), Some of the best animated films in over a decade (Lego Movie and the Wind Rises), The start of fun franchises (Kingsman, John Wick), Some of the best sequels of all time (Raid 2, Dawn of the planet of Apes), Two fantastic horror films (The Babadook, A girl went home alone at night), Bold art - films (Birdman, Under The Skin, Mr. Turner, Boyhood, Whiplash), the best Clint Eastwood film in almost a decade (American Sniper), Interesting Sci-fi (Snowpiercer, Interstellar, Edge of Tomorrow) and great bio films (Imitation game, Theory of Everything, Selma) and the best Russian film in a long while (Leviathan). There was everything for everyone, classics and fantastic blockbusters

[@IyanSharma]

Henry G Kingsman came out in 2015.

[@1chroust12]

Was about to write the same comment but saw that you ve already done the job, so i just liked your essay of truth

[@willyoutube17]

Was I the only one that found the long camera shot on Ms. Movies awkward 1:07:04

[@MissMovies]

No one was more embarrassed about it than me.

[@bronzenrule]

Hitormissmovies You came off very well though, really. Hope you're back on the show soon.

[@liwendiamond9223]

Yeah, the camera crew screwed up on this one. Andy was in the middle of explaining why Dan was winning this round and all I could think about was : Does she know she's being filmed right now? Will she pick her nose? Please for her sake I hope she doesn't pick her nose thinking the camera is pointing at Andy. Thankfully she remained professional!

[@bronzenrule]

It was probably a technical glitch that couldn't be fixed in editing.

[@ChrisK-kt9lm]

Hitormissmovies you were awesome! i hope they let you on again and don't shoot down your excellent contributions like bringing in imdb score perspective or whether or not private parts is a biopic (it's not)

[@lakemasterex7582]

Whiplash has the greatest effect on me personally, therefore, for me, I believe it should win Best Picture

[@liamcronin2108]

The academy is very narcistic so they will choose birdman regardless

[@lakemasterex7582]

Yeah I would tend to agree. I hope Whiplash wins, but, realistically, The Oscar will go to either Boyhood or Whiplash.

[@Gabe_Shiesty]

great movie! Miles Teller was awesome and JK Simmons was fantastic. one of the best performances of last year.

[@JefOliveira90]

Whiplash is an amazing movie. JK Simmons performance is nothing short of outstanding. Birdman is ok, I guess. I was expecting way more of it, to be honest and Boyhood... Boyhood is just a boring, flat drama/experiment. It's interesting to watch those people getting older, but that's it. It's a boring movie overall.

[@lakemasterex7582]

Yeah, in my opinion, no film was more intense or emotionally and mentally gripping than Whiplash

[@MegaLovelybones123]

Thank god Dan is back on the panel! He's so cute and doesn't deserve to be hidden in the corner :)

[@jdlaw001]

Dan cute? really?

[@MegaLovelybones123]

personal preference i suppose then

[@jdlaw001]

MegaLovelybones123 no judgement. go get him.

[@MegaLovelybones123]

haha i would 'go get him' but i sadly don't live in america

[@jdlaw001]

MegaLovelybones123 oh. what country? maybe try long distance.

[@rhysalexander182]

Bring in Jeremy Jahns! (I'll keep saying it until you do it!)

[@ChaosX2Limited]

well I doubt there gonna pay his travel fees to California

[@jdlaw001]

Bring in Andre the Black Nerd so the panel will have a little diversity.

[@hazgriff2886]

Yesssss and isn't screen junkies friend with him (correct me if I'm wrong)

[@ChaosX2Limited]

***** well jahns only apeared on a screen junkies video ounce and that was cus he an hal rudnick were at the same event but jeremy wont travel to LA just to that unlese they pay his travel fees which I doubt they will do, so im guessing the only chance thaey have Is if jeremy is in town for another reason and they get him on the show wile hes there

[@moviemann8840]

ChaosX2Limited they could have JJ on skype. I know it wouldnt be as good but as long as I see JJ Im happy

[@BoredTime101]

Nightcrawler was an amazing movie imo

[@idcidk9]

There's no argument between American history X and Beetle juice. Edward Norton played one of the top 10 character performances of all time PERIOD

[@christoffelmiddel6663]

Amen! There is no other person like dicaprio that can do the same thing!!!!!!!!

[@zevo9314]

i cant believe they entertained that argument. as soon as i heard all 3 choices, edward norton won for me. and i love robert duvall. a tim burton quirky antagonist is so niche there's no way to compare it.

[@hanhorror]

I do think The Lego Movie got snubbed, but calling The Tale of the Princess Kaguya part of the 'two movies no one had heard of' unforgivable.

[@Pikapikapoke]

I think Kaguya is way better than lego.

[@Pikapikapoke]

GB Strelok Agreed. I hope HTTYD 2 wins. But if kaguya wins ill be happy.

[@hanhorror]

Much Doge I hope Kaguya wins ultimately. For Takahata to get an Oscar on his final film that would be amazing. But if not then totally agree HTTYD 2 was great :D

[@JefeTheSituation]

GB Strelok How to Train your Dragon is DreamWorks.....

[@JohnSpawn1]

hanhorror Takahata's final film? So after Miyazaki, he also quits? That sucks...

[@LVdeo]

If I was Dan in this situation: Both of these movies are on cable, you have to choose one, which do you choose? Last Airbender or After Earth Mark: After Earth Me: Can I kill myself?

[@archeknight5104]

Hey, After Earth was dreadful. Last Airbender was purely offensive. If I HAD to choose, it would definitely be After Earth.

[@ferdia748]

was that supposed to be funny

[@krisdwooddeux]

I'd pick Last Airbender. Because when I'm watching a movie on tv it's not because I want to watch it, it's because I want something In the background as I sleep and the worse the movie the better the nap. Plus if the movie started creeping into my dreams I'd rather end up in the bending universe.

[@archeknight5104]

krisdwooddeux If I could force myself into an epic bending dream by watching that movie while I slept I'd still have trouble convincing myself to watch it haha. The problem is I would end up staying awake raging at that movie.

[@krisdwooddeux]

Arche Knight sometimes you have to let out your rage. That's another positive point for watching the movie. You get so upset with it that the problems in your daily life seem minuscule. Haha

[@DiegoGonzalez-ic3si]

I am randomly watching this and I have to say, boy was Dan wrong about no one showing up for Avatar 2 hahahah

[@ShadowBlazer3000]

I was a little disappointed the Lego Movie didn't get a nod for Animated Feature but it did get a song nomination so it's not exactly a complete snub. Also we had TWO hand-drawn animated films nominated! So all in all it wasn't the worst year for animated films at the Oscars.

[@JoeH679]

The biggest oscar snub. A foreign language movie has never, ever won. Ridiculous.

[@jrinredcar]

Is there not a category for that?

[@JoeH679]

Yes, but that shouldn't be the case. Cinema knows no borders so why should the cinema awards. It makes the academy awards pretty invalid. I would go out on a limb and say not one of the twenty best films of all time won best picture, largely due to this weird prejudice, and that's a disgrace.

[@jrinredcar]

I completely agree with you. Imagine if Iñárritu made Birdman in Spanish, would it have got the same amount of attention?

[@JoeH679]

Jack Rae Exactly. It's not like it's against the rules either because there has been nine nominees before. I just can't understand it.

[@JoeH679]

That's not a rule. Plenty of English films win.

[@samurider97]

Next movie fight: Which movie on the IMDB top 10 does not deserve to be there?

[@nizzepower]

That's a great question! You should take it to their twitter and facebook as well!

[@tsili7710]

Strange question as everybody has their own preferences. But if it had to be one movie, it's definitely The Dark Knight. Great movie, don't get me worng but not top 10 material imo. Still the fairest would be to get one of 2 Godfather movies out of top 10 so that there would be more diversity.

[@ofilantvanderplas]

Yes, dark knight easily! I also almost cried when interstellar was in the top10 for a while.

[@wigbig6192]

The Dark Knight

[@Dylan-bs3lf]

R Kelly joking or not ? the dark knight is the best superhero movie of all time and is a modern masterpiece

[@SpawnRevenge92]

Dan is without any dooubt the best guy on these panels. I like all of the guys, but he always makes the best arguments.

[@eligarl]

You should make a movie fight - “ladies night”. Just invite women fighters and ask girly topics! The questions could be: 1) Top 3 movies for a women movie night? 2) Who is the male movie character (not actor!) you would cheat your boyfriend with? 3) What female actor makes you jealous because of how great she looks? 4) On a Date, which movie improves the chances of getting you into the bed? 5) Top 3 movies you would never want to watch with a guy that you were dating for just a few weeks? 6) Which female movie costume would you like to have for your own? 7) What is the movie your boyfriend really loves, but you totally hate because in your opinion it is just illogical? 8) Which movie scene would you want to experience in really life? It would be so funny to see Andy Signore judge these topics!!!!!!!!

[@eligarl]

For question 7) the answer “Back to the Future” doesn’t count, because it is totally logic. Time travel is absolutely possible if you have a flux capacitor!!!!!

[@samfraser767]

No, they would get blasted for "sexism" and what not.

[@petermcgrath7082]

Nobody would watch that no offens fucking shite idea

[@eligarl]

Sam Fraser It is a fun show, so why should it be sexist if they talk about those questions in a funny way? You do not have to take everything seriously. It’s meant to be a funny show and it should be possible to talk about these questions without people going nuts and claim sexism. It just would be so funny to see Andy Signore judge these topics!

[@eligarl]

Peter kid Mcgrath I do not think so. I belief it could be really funny to see Andy Signore judge these topics!

[@ferdia748]

Anybody else notice that Dan turns his head to his left like 200 times this video

[@joshyhendy7260]

What is he doing?

[@fokeyjo]

Joshy Hendy Admiring himself in the monitors? Looking over his shoulder for anyone who might make off with his belt? Or perving over hitormissmovies!

[@ferdia748]

He keeps moving his head to left for a few seconds and then looking back

[@DanMurrellMovies]

Conor Beggs There's a running clock over there that shows how long we've been fighting. It's usually in front of me when I'm in the other seat. Just checking the time!

[@ferdia748]

Dan Murrell Ah I see

[@ReconnectTMC]

I watched Raging Bull in my early twenties and loved it, I'd still toss it on or watch it if I caught it on a movie channel, great movie

[@GBSLiveMusic]

Awesome film.

[@cenonforrest5103]

I am totally pushing for Honest Trailers: Tangled one of the best.

[@petermcgrath7082]

Fellow whovian

[@cenonforrest5103]

Good day fellow whovian, remember wibbely wobbely timey wimey

[@lakemasterex7582]

Worst 2015 Oscar snub has to be David Oyelowo not being nominated. The Lego Movie not being nominated for Best Animated Feature was also a huge crime as well.

[@samsvideoblogs]

You have to use the Aragorn "This day we fight" EVERY EPISODE!

[@fintan6514]

One day they might change it BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY!!!!

[@FanboysUnited]

YES

[@joshbrown6562]

Dan should be on the panel at all times! He's really entertaining and makes great points.

[@d-rockmovies2335]

It's the Imitation Game not Intimidation Game. The best biopic is Chaplin

[@lokuzt]

fact checker fell asleep on that one

[@GBSLiveMusic]

Nice!!!!! Chaplin is one of my favorite films! Oddly, that didn't occur to me. The story+RDJ= Amazing. Good catch!

[@TheHelpusername]

I think - as a foreign person - that the Lego movie was not that big of a surprise snub for me, because it was one of those movies that work for the people who are familiar with American culture and the Lego products and it has so many pun and inside jokes that was lost a big time in translation unlike big hero 6 or HTTYD 2 that their storyline was much more solid and work in other languages and other cultures and maybe that's why it was cut out still it was a good movie but more for the English language audience rather the world wide audience but again that is just my opinion

[@jasonbrown4526]

The reason I never saw The Lego Movie is because it looked like it was just going to be a bunch of pop culture jokes.

[@TheHelpusername]

Jason Brown yes It was a good pop culture movie but a person who is not familiar with that (like my brother) will find it a big MEH I mean talk about the man upstairs, the RIP joke, the NBA bit, the super man and the green lantern.....I can go forever I mean try to translate that to other cultures

[@noecamarena9]

Yeah and the oscars are an american thing so, theres that.... Also the oscars dont matter.

[@JHowesitgoing123]

Rev55 No awards really matter. It's all just for entertainment, nothing more.

[@jdlaw001]

I thought Legos were Danish.

[@benabramowitz18]

The Razzie nominations were announced the day before the Oscars. Who wins Worst Picture: Transformers 4, TMNT, Saving Christmas, Left Behind, or Legend of Hercules?

[@ayrtonbraam916]

Probably Trans 4 because they should know better

[@LionelMarsden]

No Million Ways to Die?

[@infiniteevil27]

.

[@Jay-fs2nw]

Michael bay should win it

[@1krani]

Ayrton Braam Ninja Turtles because Transformers 4 was at least terri-bad memorable. Ninja Turtles was easily the laziest movie of the year.

[@domvela2698]

I'm seventeen years old, I've never seen Lonesome Dove....Watched Raging Bull more than once

[@oldmoviemusic]

+Dom Vela that's a reflection on you, not the movie....i hate this bullshit argument that everyone uses of "but more people saw my movie, not many people have seen yours!" How does that anything to do with the quality of the film? It gets used to much on Movie Fights, and it's a totally bullshit argument.

[@44Sking]

Again, Dan is the only deserving winner. Dan is the only panelist who consistantly provides solid points to his arguements that anyone can understand and agree with, even if we do not fully agree with his choice. Most of the other panelists arguements consist of "I think ____ because that's what I like, and that's what I want to see". And watching as an unbiased viewer, it's very hard to understand their arguement when it is so personal and biased. Dan always explains his choice logically, and even if you don't agree, he makes a very solid arguement. Through out many episodes he is robbed of points by other ridiculous answers, and I don't blame him for "pouting", he must find it hard to believe that such fandom fueled answers beat his much better thought out arguements. Bravo Dan, keep up the good work, deservingly the unbeaten champion as he is head and shoulders above the rest of the panelists as a debator. On a side note, I understans the judge choosing others in certain rounds to keep things interesting, because if he always chose the best argued answer, Dan would just walk all over the rest. It would be interesting if they could bring someone else who could provide a very solid logical fight, to actually give Dan a run for his money fairly.

[@stevesb97]

"The best man for the job" > "the most diverse person for the job"

[@OtakuDono]

... How about some Oriental Movies here next time? Best Ghibli movie ( The Grave of the Fireflies, Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, My Neighbor Totoro, etc) Best animated movie (5 Centimeters per Second, Summer Wars, The Garden of Sinners, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, The Garden of Words, etc) Best Samurai / Ronin movie (47 Ronin, 13 Assassins, 7 Samurai, etc) Best Shaolin / Kung-fu movie ( The House of the Flying Daggers, Ip Man, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Hero, etc.) Best ninja movie (Shinobi, Azumi, Kunoichi, etc) Best oriental parody / comedy movie (Kung Fu Hustle, Shaolin Soccer, etc.)

[@overkillforever1]

Yes, so much yes, totally agree.

[@MedhaavMahesh]

none of those are those are the best animated movie. toy story movies and other Disney movies are much better and about all those animated movies you were talking about are anime and are not as good as studio ghibli films either, have you even seen any other movies that aren't japanese.

[@TheLuigiufc]

Spirited Away is just a classic and one of the best animated films of all time and 5 centimeters per second is a masterpiece and a heart wrenching slice of life movie.

[@TheLuigiufc]

Medhaav Mahesh bro you have no idea what you are talking about. Toy story is great but have you seen spirited away, howl's moving castle, the wind rises, tale of princess kaguya and princess mononoke. They are the best that animated films have to offer.

[@MedhaavMahesh]

TheLuigiufc but surely the old Disney movies cant be beated against any of these ghibli movies as they invented animated feature films

[@isaacschmidt1359]

It's very weird that they don't like "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". It was received very well critically and commercially. And it followed the book FAR better than "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory".

[@swanpride]

Nostalgia...you heard it, they actually think that Willy Wonka is a character which has to be whimsy. Obviously none of them ever read the book or one of them would have brought the argument that the remake is much closer to it in tone.

[@Vebinz]

It doesn't have to follow the book. The masterpiece that is "Blade Runner" hardly follows the book too.

[@krisdwooddeux]

The only way it followed the book better was using the squirrels instead of the geese and the title of the movie. Otherwise it still only had one parent for each child (which works better cinematically but doesn't follow the book better than the first.) and it added those crazy unnecessary flashbacks. I like the idea of getting Willy Wonka's backstory but not the one they gave to him. And I love Johnny Depp and I don't blame him for screwing up the character cuz I'm sure they told him to portray the Willy Wonka, but I don't think Willy Wonka is a child in an adults body the way they made him seem. He's an adult who is somewhat insane and inventive and just because he works in a chocolate factory that doesn't mean he's a child. It deserves any hate it gets. I feel bad that Depp and Freddie Highmore have to be associated with that film forever now. Freddie was the cutest little Charlie but what he brought to that role were completely overshadowed by the rest of the nonsense in the movie. Yes the book is nonsense but it's lovable Roald Dahl nonsense and the movie didn't have the Tim Burton flare it needed. It was over the top but not in a good way. Sorry for the huuuuge reply but those are my thoughts as someone who's favorite movie as a child was Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Plus it was a musical so it's obviously better! :)

[@jonathanmajor444]

I say it was a really good movie , I enjoyed it a lot , now I havent seen the old so maybe thats why I enjoyed it so much , for me it was all new and I loved Deep performance !

[@krisdwooddeux]

hmm I've read the book and watched the movie right after watching it. It was close enough to satisfy me. Yeah there were changes but not as much as the new one. I haven't gone page by page to really see which one is closer to the source material but I personally like the old one more.

[@BasilOnatopp]

When I think of Ed Norton, I immediately think of American History X.

[@IyanSharma]

I think Fight Club.

[@TheProofEdge]

Bring this combination back please, my favorite 3 panelists of all time!!

[@bucklakelukie]

Boyhood hasn’t held up at all. Birdman and Budapest are classics

[@eligarl]

My favorite movie fighters are: 1) Dan Murrel (He always makes the best arguments and is the most competent) 2) Spencer Gilbert (Also competent and quite funny) 3) Mark Ellis (Just funny as hell) So bring them more often! I think this show should more often have a female fighter. There were too less women on Movie Fights. I can only remember Alison Haislip, but I think there were also others, but not many. What do the other screen junkies fans think about my ranking? Any other opinion?

[@elpela2099]

Dan is also my favourite. By far.

[@nshearer01]

That's why Dan is the champ!

[@trainv7612]

Nick Mundy FTW

[@archeknight5104]

I don't have an opinion on 2 and 3, but Dan is by far the best. He makes competent arguments using logic while everybody else uses subjective statements and tries to pass them off as actual arguments. It sounds crazy that you can make arguments on film without an obtuse amount of subjective statements but Dan does that very well. I always feel like he is cheated when he loses. I watched and loved Beetlejuice and have not seen the movie that Dan discussed, and yet he sold me on it much more than they did with Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice isn't a complex character and I can imagine a lot of people in that role and succeed with it.

[@LadyDarkHatter]

I do agree that The Lego Movie should have, without a doubt, have been nominated. Stop motion animation is incredibly underappreciated, and making stop-motion legos is very unique and interesting, but, sadly, the Academy is just a bunch of stuffy assholes who are about as corrupted as it gets. But one thing that does bother me is your guys' brushing over of How To Train Your Dragon 2. That movie was a masterful work of animated art. The amount of detail in every little thing was astounding. The amount of research that went into it was mind-blowing. If you don't understand what I mean, go watch the movie again. And if you still don't understand what I mean, then you might want to go to an optometrist.

[@jacka6207]

Lego Movie wasn't stop motion. It just looks like it.

[@tunrayojackson]

i completely agree with you while lego is awesome and deserves to get a nomination i think how to train your dragon deserves to win equally as much as lego to me how to train your dragon two was a complete film it had comedy romance and drama its a very relatable cartoon it has themes of adulthood that still caters to kids i loved that movie and i think it deserves to win

[@swanpride]

That Stop motion is underappreciated is most likely the reason why it WASN'T nominated. Between the eight movies which got this year an annie nomination, there are four which I can see the winning the oscars (even if Song of the Sea has only a off-chance). The question was most likely which got the fifth spot...another CGI movie or the be stop motion movie of the year. Hence the Lego movie was left out (but got a best song nomination) and the Box-troll got the nomination. Now, if the Boxtrolls actually wins, THIS would be an upset. But the Lego movie not getting nominated? Surprising, but only because it is so popular.

[@--_V_--]

oh god you actually believe the lego movie is stop motion? maybe YOU should watch it again. it's all computer animated buddy. of course they tried to make it look like a stop motion movie. looks like they fooled you.

[@HumanAfterAll123]

So happy Birdman won over boyhood

[@MrConaway]

So, as a fan who has done some complaining before, I feel compelled to be fair and say that this was a very. good. episode. Interesting, well-thought-out debates - passionate but not off-the-rails intense. And Andy did a great job as host this time - guiding the discussion without completely changing things, throwing in some humor, etc. Well done all around - nice balance. Great job everyone - very entertaining.

[@lorenzop7447]

This was one of the most competitive Movie Fights ever :D great arguments all around.

[@onedayvlogs9296]

That awkward minute of just the fan cam

[@Yoububehahaha]

Srsly wtf was that? Was the camera man trying to finish?

[@ridingcoattails1588]

Dan was robbed of too many points there, that should have been a landslide. Raging bull, rascist oscars, American history x, and no we do not need finding nemo avatar/free willy avatar/gorillas in the mist avatar. He needs to retire undefeated and get back to the Dan cam..... This comment was brought to you by the totally unbiased totally made-up-just-now Dan Fan Club.

[@DanMurrellMovies]

Sign me up!

[@eligarl]

 me too

[@lisamortini8567]

Me three!

[@nori9686]

Yay I want to be there too :D

[@ridingcoattails1588]

Well looks like I'm going to have to start making badges and organising meetings, we have five people here wanting to join. And as Family guy has told us five people on the Internet = 1million people! For a lazy procrastinating sod like myself this is a joke that backfired! ;( Www.ridingcoattails.moonfruit.co.uk

[@michaelanthony4042]

Why Tf was the screen pointed at the fan checker for so long?? Haha

[@brenbrentimber]

Personally, my biggest snub is the fact that Godzilla, love it or not, was a visual masterpiece. Not one shot in this movie could be better. Panning up his leg, shooting from human perspectives, grounded this movie and made it better. And it definitely should have gotten at least nominated for Visual Effects

[@TheTomoyo13]

Every week it's a pleasure listening to you guys arguing about movies, etc. Thank you for your hard work and passion ! A Screen Junkies fan from France :)

[@MissMovies]

Sorry for some blatant misses friends, I was totally nervous. Also- I think Josh the Engineer was in the bathroom for that 1.5 minutes that the camera was on me. Sorry about that - even I hate it. :)

[@humblesir5880]

Screen Junkies Which movie that is generally hated or received horrible reviews should get a remake?

[@rehmanahmed5387]

Definitely

[@davidmendez3899]

OR "defend a movie that was generally hated"

[@jorgehanel8837]

Eragon

[@DFox-kv9pi]

Eragon for sure.

[@convictor11]

Dark skies

[@kimwebb5431]

Wow you guys really hate on Benedict Cumberbatch. He did a good job in the Imitation Game. I don't think that he was like Sherlock at all in it. I just think you hate on him because you don't like him, which is fine, but don't discount him as an actor.

[@kimwebb5431]

That's true. Just sad that they constantly hate on him because he's popular.

[@kimwebb5431]

That's fair, and sadly he has said himself that he doesn't want to be typecast. Which he very much is.

[@kimwebb5431]

They haven't said he's bad per say but I know that they have complained about him being in other Movie Fights. It was more just a general sadness on my part with people complaining about his role in the Imitation Game. I loved the movie so saying that they didn't see why they hired him was sad because I thought he was amazing and did a fantastic job.

[@kimwebb5431]

It's phenomenal. Yes both Turing and Sherlock are geniuses, but very different characters. Outstanding

[@jayc2875]

It's really truly getting annoying. They sound like fucking hipsters because they automatically hate on him when he gets cast as something. Like when he got cast as Doctor Strange and I think it was them that said they wanted to see Phoenix instead of him. Even though Benedict will play the roll perfectly

[@BrianDunfee94]

I'm 20 and I LOVE Lonesome Dove (and also Dead Man's Walk). I first saw them both when I was 16, and I still watch them every now and then.

[@crabchowder]

And thus Dan "The Madman" Murrell was born. Great arguments throughout. I'm having a blast binge watching these episodes.

[@Mika20]

As much as I love How to Train your Dragon 2, I really think Lego Movie deserves both nomination and win. I'm shocked it only had one nomination for best song. Not animation or anything?? Seriously I was surprised I even loved that movie.

[@unlimited-edge]

Yes, I agree. I seriously thought it was stop-motion even though it wasn't. It mimicked stop motion PERFECTLY.

[@Mika20]

Patar Creations Wait it wasn't stop-motion? I thought it was! Now that's a neat illusion they did to my eyes. XD Why that's not nominated is beyond me.

[@Pikapikapoke]

Patar Creations Honestly its not that hard to mimic stop motion on a software..

[@Aaronthegreatest]

I saw Birdman, Boyhood, GBH, and some other contenders for best picture in 2015; I really feel that Birdman was objectively brilliant and so different that it definitely deserved the win it got over its competition. Boyhood was an impressive achievement, but it felt meandering and lacked any narrative focus really. It was just kind of like, "here's life and growing up" and honestly it was pretty banal. This was intentional of course, but it also kept it from being a great movie in my mind because great movies have to tightly control and focus on how a story unfolds to make a point or move the audience. GBH was fun and had a cool atmosphere, and I'm glad the one panelist pointed out the changing of the aspect ratio because I completely missed that. But the truth is it just wasn't in the same league as the other two films. Birdman was experimental, had like an hour + single camera take, and did a funny and moving meta analysis of Keaton's career and by extension the work of all artists who struggle to make something meaningful and leave a legacy behind while dealing with critics. Acting and dialogue were perfect and the idea was so original. My friend and I were very pleased that it won best pic.

[@mateil2277]

Agreed. In 10-20 years, I think people will put it up there with films like Citizen Kane or 2001.

[@BasilOnatopp]

Agreed. Also, Boyhood was a bad film.

[@TempestLikesWrestling]

Lego Movie for sure

[@Mika20]

I agree completely. I love all other movies nominated in animated film, but I think Lego Movie deserved it.

[@unlimited-edge]

Lego Movie was a good film. I've got to say, Chris Pratt probably got like super rich in 2014, because he was in two (at least I think so) of the best films.

[@meowmeow-di2qo]

Lego Movie wasn't even nominated for best animated film.

[@coreym8145]

HTTYD2 is winning it. lego was not snubbed, in the animated movies out last year HTTYD2 was the best.

[@jackjansen4704]

COREY M Ok first of all, The LEGO Movie was the best animated film last year and it was still better than Big Hero 6 and The Boxtrolls so it should have been nominated.

[@adgi8396]

Song of the Sea or the Tale of Princess Kaguya, in my opinion, should win for best animation. Almost everyone talks about the other nominations and i think these two should receive a lot more credit because they are indeed beautiful films.

[@elkeve2742]

I'm amazed anyone would think of anything other than American History X when they think of Ed Norton. I'm a teacher, so I've seen this movie more than anybody ever should because I've often used it in class, and it's STUNNING. And I really agree that the quiet nuance, the silent desperate struggle to grow as a human being and live with his own guilt and conscious is incredible.

[@JohnSpawn1]

Screen Junkies *MOVIEFIGHTS* Since some people argue that TV is now superior to film, what's the best tv show ever (Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Game of Thrones, Hannah Montana...)? (in case you haven't done that yet)

[@hajimiru]

they should replace Boxtrolls and HTTYD2 with The Lego Movie and The Book of Life. they deserve to be at least nominated though Big Hero 6 should win.

[@Pikapikapoke]

Sorry dude. HTTYD 2 is miles better than lego... It deserves a nom and a win.

[@corndogmaster12345]

HTTYD2 actually made me cry when I watched it, and I'm an 18 year old male. It actually had a great plot and was a great animated sequel. It was not just a movie for kids it was extremely enjoyable to watch even though I am older than the targeted audience.

[@nori9686]

HTTYD2 is the BEST animated movie of the year, imo.

[@amazingashley]

Oh god, not the book of life

[@Shatamx]

Beatriz Fernandes What? I was very disappointed with the second one. Even my 5 year old son gave up watching it. He loved the first one.

[@benabramowitz18]

How come Gravity dominates the Oscars despite having a simple storyline and plenty of plotholes, despite making space look really cool, but Interstellar is relegated to the technical categories despite better performances, a better plot, and effects that blow Gravity out of the water?

[@cornking6]

Because Gravity is overrated.

[@DerekKingLtd]

I think the academy secretly resented Christopher Nolan for going out of his comfort zone and making a primarily emotional film, they love to pigeonhole certain directors.

[@SerenGetter]

Because Inception was original, Interstellar was 2001 x Contact

[@iamsasquatchjunior]

***** The space stations are orbiting around earth, yes, but they are thousands of miles away from each other on a vertical axis, not a horizontal axis. Better put, one is far higher than the other

[@lordstinson8095]

***** Gravity was a piece of shit before Interstellar.. And I'm sure, 10-20 years from now, it will be considered a masterpiece.. SerenGetter Interstellar, too, was original..

[@andy54169]

"White and old" That's the most honest thing I've heard all year. Mad respect Dan!

[@elizabethzubanova897]

Hal Rudnick and Dan Murrell take losing far too bitterly. You can see it in their faces. It's hilarious.

[@chilllzoneee]

I feel bad for Dan because it looks like he's frustrated by being surrounded by idiots when he wants to have a legitimate intellectual discussion

[@davidornelas3326]

I wish the academy would recognize other genres besides drama. Every year it's only dramas or indie films that get nominated for best picture. They're allowed to nominate 10 movies yet they only nominate 8. I honestly thought dawn of the planet of the apes and days of future past had a good shot. Lord of the rings was probably the last blockbuster film that one best picture. This is outrages, it reminds me of when slumdog millionaire won best picture yet TDK didn't get nominated. And wtf is up with Lego movie not getting nominated?!

[@goclbert]

I think Birdman is more comedy than drama for 75% of the movie. And if you were pulling for an action movie to get nominated, the only one this year that would be worthy is Edge of Tomorrow.

[@dianarodriguezespinosa6378]

Thomas Morrisey Silence of the lambs, The Exorcist, The Sixth Sense

[@davidornelas3326]

***** dude ask anybody, big hero 6 and how to train your dragon 2 are so good but they're nowhere near Lego level

[@davidornelas3326]

***** horrible? I liked big hero 6 but it's not in the level of Lego movie. Lego movie should've at least gotten nominated

[@MultiAmmar2000]

Dan should have won for American history X

[@MultiAmmar2000]

Or the avatar one

[@kristianvukajlovic6789]

But should've lost the round about jhonny depp

[@kristianvukajlovic6789]

+MultiAmmar2000 johnny*

[@tricksterhuaun]

Now THIS is a smart debate. Three smart people, arguing and making valid points.

[@hectorh.7707]

I'm a 21, who has seen Raging Bull when he was 18, loved it and its still one of my many favorite films.

[@mysteriouscoconut73]

Bring the guys from RLM on the show!

[@MrTermanati]

What is the best Time Travel Movie?

[@zbh9268]

That's a good question.

[@1995krampe]

does butterfly effect count?? I thought the 1 one was pretty good.

[@txisbest2010]

Back to Future or Terminator?

[@RadieschenVonOben]

It's a really good question! But since they are going to chose terminator anyways, this answer should be disqualified before they fight!

[@MrTermanati]

I could see a really big argument between terminator vs. Back to the Future. And then Nick Mundy say Looper or something.

[@karantov1]

Am I the only one who found that long lingering shot of the girl at the Dan Cam this week rather creepy?

[@Dagash555]

Man when these first came out I was like "who the hell has time for an hour n half video??" And now I'm like really excited each week for a new episode :)

[@jonbenge2383]

I like this panel. They are respectful, intelligent, don't talk over each other yet still get their point across.

[@stevenrivera8010]

Kevin Spacey...oh boy

[@BMoneyrulz]

'Boyhood' is the most over-rated film of the year. The acting in it is horrible and Ethan Hawke looks like a Daniel Day-Lewis compared to everyone else. Sure, it's a great experiment of making a film over twelve years, however there is no plot and it lacks heart. 'Birdman' deserves best picture.

[@xenon333]

Invite Jeremy Jahns already!

[@chillinat221b]

Dissapointed to hear that Lego movie argument again! "2 movies nobody has heard of" which i'm assuming means Song of the Sea and The Tale Of The Princess Kaguya? Which are both great movies??? Not that I think Lego movie isn't good or anything, but both those movies that "nobody has heard of" are outstanding 2D animated features in a market that is dominated by 3d and should definitely be recognized for what they accomplished. I wish people would watch the movies nominated and recognize their strengths before complaining that another 3D blockbluster didn't make it.

[@haydengilbert6317]

Augustus MacCrae is one of the greatest performances of our time. It elevated a dying genre back to its original heights and then some. Blows Am Hist X and Beetlejuice out of the water. Total props for that.

[@BasilOnatopp]

Dan, you're my favorite movie fighter, but Boyhood sucked. It succeeds because of a gimmick. It was simply a bad film.

[@jmorgan3977]

It wasn't "simply a bad film", that's just your opinion that it's a bad film. I thought it was one of the best movies of 2014.

[@mateil2277]

It's a decent movie. No way near Birdman or Grand Budapest Hotel, but it was ok. But without the gimmick and the performances of Arquette and Hawke it would've been among the worst films of the year.

[@c-3po.concepts567]

Dan is still the man.

[@c-3po.concepts567]

Also, Raging Bull.

[@mraadr1]

I'm 18, I watch Raging Bull and Scorsese movies.BOOM. Also, I want to fight sometime. I think i can come up with some pretty good arguements. Also, why does no one use Devil's Advocate???

[@ThatKidsLazy]

Pretty sure u need to be a friend of theirs (or a well known utuber)

[@ChaosX2Limited]

maybe if they do a competition you can get on assuming if you live the LA area

[@EricCartman-mx5wg]

1: Jake Gyllenhaal 2. Nightcrawler 3: Jake Gyllenhaal 4: No 5: Goodfellas 6: ??? 7: Can't really say...

[@vitorpavani7609]

I love this so much, please don't ever stop making it, good job

[@popit198]

Boyhood really sucked i can't believe it's nomitade for best movie it really sucked the only achievement was to have the same cast over 12 years but zero storytelling the only silver linning was ethan Hawke

[@SamiGold]

I love Raging Bull, so ha Jason

[@THeEX0RCIS7]

Bring back Mundy!!!!!!!!!!!

[@slurpmeslower6516]

Wow, I was almost excited at the end of this. Good job guys.

[@matthewshrum3964]

I'm feeling Dan's pain. Still having a blast with this show. Don't be afraid to use old questions with different panelists. It'll be fun to see other people's opinions with an occasional rollback question.

[@babeldude]

Chris hemsworth did not play kirk, that was chris pine

[@Tiberius11111111]

actualy i did in intro of star trek 2009 he played Kirks father

[@brianhaber7382]

Best Kevin? Currently? Kevin Feige! Talk about current Hollywood impact.

[@DanMurrellMovies]

I thought about that five minutes after the show. Great answer!

[@Professorkek]

Why does everyone fall for the shitty gimmick of Boyhood? Its a shit movie. Can anyone seriously say they wonna watch it twice? Its a neat experiment, but does not equal a good movie.

[@penish5]

Umm it took 20 min to shoot each year. OMG such a cool high school project.... Psssh , stfu

[@imranhq13]

holy f**k...i was suggesting for this combination and they've made it. thank u so much it made my day

[@limo2x]

I watched all the episodes and this was by far the best. Great job guys.

[@nori9686]

Happy you finally have a girl in there :D

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

Erin Robinson was on the panel in Episode 2 and Allison Haislip was on sometime in December.

[@nori9686]

You are right, but it is so rare, it just makes me happy when we have a feminine perspective in some way :) (although in this case she's just there to help with the facts)

[@CrimsonShoryuken]

Beatriz Fernandes Females suck! Let's hear it for the guys oh yeeeaahhh!

[@Kloim]

Flint Ironstagg the fuck is wrong with you

[@chazmondooftheclandevlin4346]

Oh Reginald If I had to narrow it down to one word I'd have to guess 'Virginity'..

[@NorfMade]

YEES! TEAM DAN! xD #danpout

[@shafiatif]

What's up?

[@shafiatif]

Bye schomes also appear in AMC movie talk regularly

[@salvatoresultana4058]

Dan just saying “Yeah it’s Jack and Jill” was hilarious

[@movieking80]

One million percent agree with the Ed Norton/American History X discussion... It's one of the most underrated and underappreciated performances (and film) in movie history.

[@charlotti]

Great panel this episode! Love all 4 of you, especially Jason who is hilarious and mark who makes really compelling arguments always. Please have this panel more!