Hand full of Tri-ang Items Part Two

This is part two of a two part video, I had not intended the video to become so long, but when looking at the footage during the long bank holiday weekend along with quite heavily editing down it still made for a very long video! so I split it into two parts. There is a lot of model railway items running, but the emphasis is on exploring the good handful of Tri-ang Hornby items in various conditions that were very kindly donated to the channel. The link to the first part of the video is below. All dates approximate.
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[@alancrowley7991]

Hi Oscar, As a scale modeler I watch a lot of U Tube videos although I am bias this is the video I have enjoyed the most!. to see a couple of the models running on the track brought back some happy memories of the sixties as a youngster, I can tell you with confidence the last time any of those models ran would be 1969 as that's the year I joined the Air Cadets and all my energy was now directed into that activity, so 55 years since they last ran. I am pleased the track will be useful and you will be able to glean usable parts from the other items. The dates you included were of particular interest as it gave me an idea of the dates these items were bought. I was amazed that you managed to bring the black loco to life as i inherited this model from my uncle so its probably fifties vintage! I was surprised and pleased you had a replacement body for the class 37 as it is now complete. Th Pullman coach cleaned up must better than I thought it would I hope the other two clean up as well. I am so pleased this small collection of old stuff has found a good home. Thanks again for the relaxing and informative videos you produce.... 👌

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Alan it's terrific to hear you enjoyed the videos. It's great fun getting to play around with a group of items like this, thank you again for passing them on to me it's very much appreciated and there will be many useful parts, the other two coaches have come together very nicely and make up a very nice rake. I had come across that spare body quite some time ago and it had sat in a box for years, these bits and pieces always come and useful in the end. Thanks again take care. Oscar

[@user-ig6dm7cq1g]

They look in great condition. Hopefully they still work.

[@Jules-zo3ds]

Oscar you've really spoilt this week😊 You could cut the buffers off the worst damaged 37 to fix the better one. I bet that "Britannia" buffer beam would fix the "Princess" as well. Great videos. Thanks for doing them.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks, Jules. Great to hear you enjoyed that.. Oscar

[@stevenperry7493]

Morning Oscar ,what a great video ,very important to service your stock ,but with older stock it’s so easy to do .Very enjoyable to watch .😊

[@donniblanco5239]

As much as I love GWR Steam, I can remember drooling over the Early period diesel models in the “Book of Dreams” (Hornby Catalogue) 😁 I’m also sure I can remember the “Experimental Blue” Hymek with White cab frame in a Freightliner set, not to be confused with the class 31 in same livery. The 37 is Just so prolific.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Donni, thanks again for looking in. There are some terrific items in those catalogues. "Book of Dreams" is a great way of describing them. I wonder if the marketing people at Tri-ang Hornby ever thought these catalogues would be having such an effect after the best part of half a century. All the best. Oscar

[@davidharvey8158]

Hi Oscar, thanks for the double helping of vintage OO gauge railways. It’s good to see your enthusiasm for restoring old trains and to give them a new lease of life, never throw any parts away, you never know when you might need them ! 😊 It was a bold move to present two back to back videos on the same day, particularly on the subject of restoration, but from the comments you’ve received from your followers it’s obviously been a great success! As always I look forward to your next offering. PS I liked your Hornby O Gauge buffers, they’re really quite good. As a collector of vintage O gauge, I’m a big fan of tin plate railways. Are you familiar with the earlier Hornby O Gauge hydraulic buffers? They really are magnificent, you must take a look for them and get yourself a set, they are very well built and look great on a railway.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning David thanks for looking over the videos. Great to hear you enjoyed them. I think it's always best to hold onto bits and pieces in case you need them later. Glad you liked the buffers they were in a box of items I bought sometime ago and a really lovely item. I'm not familiar with a hydraulic buffers, but I will have a lookout for some information sounds like another terrific item from Hornby. All the best. Oscar

[@russellbenton2987]

Always great restoring old items back to life . Great videos Oscar. As I keep on saying it’s the trainset I dreamed of having in the 1960s/early 70s . Love it

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Russell. Glad you like the railway, great to hear you enjoyed the videos, always good fun bringing these older items back to life and very rewarding. Take care. Oscar

[@simonturner5450]

Great video, thanks Oscar for all your time and hard work in producing your videos. On the subject of blues, the standard colour was called Monastral Blue, there was also Electric Blue for the West Coast electric locomotives, Light Electric Blue for a class 31 D5578, Nanking Blue for the Blue Pullman and Chromatic Blue for a few Western Region diesels.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thank you Simon for taking the time to watch and terrific information on the colours. Great to hear you enjoyed the videos.. Oscar

[@trainsontuesday]

A most enjoyable pair of videos today, thank you Oscar. You certainly see the beauty and value in these old play worn items and your restoration system works very well. A note on the saddle tank motor. The insulating sleave on the brush spring was on the wrong side. If you wire it up that way the loco will run opposite to all your other locos. Regards, David.

[@oscarpaisley]

Afternoon David, glad you enjoyed the videos. Thanks for taking the time to watch them and information, much appreciated.. Take care. Oscar

[@robinmathews2446]

Wow.... A "two parter" episode? We have hit the big time now? Your work space looks just like mine.. Bits everywhere? I see that you also have learned to "never", throw an 'old' Tri-ang piece away? It may be just what you need for the next repair job? Since my grandson started buying older Tri-ang trains, I seem to swamped with repair jobs to renovate them? It used to be "fun", but now it's getting to be a way of life? (At least they are repairable.. Hooray for Tri-ang's great designers)... I really enjoy watching someone else doing the repairs (for a change)... A very enlightening video, you certainly do good work Oscar.... The last 'XO' motor that you put together for the video?..... I think that the brush insulator sleeve may have been on the wrong side to "normal", (unless that loose magnet has been turned around)? Aren't the sleeves usually on the right side, to meet the pick-up wire? One can have some fun getting the locos to go in the "correct" direction, if others have done strange things to them? Really enjoyed today's offering, even if it was a bit of an "epic" length? It's really good to see those old bits brought back to life? Thank you !

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Robert. It's finding a bit to put down on the workbench become the problem. Great to hear you enjoyed it watching the video. I think you may be right, insulator may have be put on the other side if somebody turned around the magnet in the past never know when somebody has been fiddling around probably don't put the best intentions, I'll leave the motor as it is until it's time to use it for something and then set it up the correct way around and re mag as necessary. All the best. Oscar

[@PaulinesPastimes]

What an excellent box of things, seeing the possibilities is always exciting. I do like the view of the layout from the outside, it is easier to make sense of it and I can see it all clearly on my PC monitor, watching on a phone might be different but I never do that anyway. Love the Hymek, I just bought one last night. Loved the Pannier tank last week, I am on the lookout for one of those too. Great that you were able to make use of some of the items, very rewarding. 😊👍

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Pauline thank you again for taking the time to watch the two videos last week. Great fun to have this box of items to play with over the bank holiday weekend with some very useful items. It's nice operating the railway from time to time from that side and all of a sudden, Bluetooth operated points spring to mind... But I think that might be going a bit far... from the inside I really enjoy operating the railway. I had always wanted a layout where the trains could run around me. Take care. Oscar

[@PaulinesPastimes]

@@oscarpaisley Bluetooth points, that does sound complicated but a nice thought none the less. 😊

[@cameronpatterson1045]

Good Morning to you Oscar from Glasgow another great video from you Sir a lot of old Model Railway stuff

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks, Cameron. Great to hear you enjoyed that. Take care. Oscar

[@premikyam2726]

The BR blue class 31 and 35 fit perfectly on your layout . an impressive pair of additions.

[@eddyweller4503]

Morning again Oscar, that was an exciting morning seeing you enjoy your purchases. I've been very lucky lately, my friend in work has been to her Mothers and brought back some items of her father's old collection. As my wife says, I'm like a little boy in a sweet shop, always enjoyable to watch on a Sunday morning, thanks Oscar, take care, Eddt xx

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks, Eddy. Glad you enjoyed the videos. I think your wife has hit the nail on the head there, perfect description. All the best. Oscar

[@brianhepke7182]

These XO4 motors go on forever don't they... they were really made to last. I am less enamoured with the diesel motors featured here. Whenever I buy a used one of these, I hold my breath that they are going to perform properly. They have a tendency to screech. Always welcome joblots of spares and parts. If they are not of use immediately, they invariably come in handy later down the line. Great video. Thank you.

[@l1a146]

G'day Oscar, I must say I enjoyed todays two videos very much. Its a nice feeling when you acquire a box like this and get running locos and trains out of it. I loved seeing these things come back to life.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed that. It was a lot of fun. Take care. Oscar

[@gordontaylor1483]

Hi Oscar, Excellent, first class 2 part video of an Aladdin’s Cave find. Great job on the Pullman coach and a good haul of very nice Super 4. Having a spare class 37 body certainly rescued that model and all the spare motors seem to be reusable. Hours of endless fun in the spares department it would appear 😀 Finally a very satisfying run around with the refurbed items 👍 Gordon

[@oscarpaisley]

Thank you Gordon. Great to hear you enjoyed that. It was a terrific amount of fun getting the play around with these items over the bank holiday weekend and certainly many spares to be used in the future, the track is in terrific condition given its age and will clean up very well. All then best. Oscar

[@tonybell9930]

What fantastic couple of videos, covering my two favourite aspects of the hobby; fiddling and cleaning old trains, and then running them around the track. I must admit oiling, greasing and cleaning was a bit haphazard, however after following your previous videos, I now use your methods and materials (grease, oil, petrol etc) Many thanks for all your fabulous videos 👍

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Tony, Glad you enjoyed the videos and you are finding some of the information useful, as you say its great fun getting to play around with these older items and very rewarding. All the best. Oscar

[@playpaulbee]

Thanks Oscar, really excellent, one of my favourite aspects of the hobby is restoring unloved or uncared for locos and stock, I will have said before that R751, class 37, is my favourite Triang/Hornby loco, particularly the early green machine, the blue ones you have here are fairly early, still having the headcode plug into the body, which I find useful if I am considering buying a loco, as it is a giveaway to how many times the body may have been off the chassis, I do have a couple of the power bogies with cross head screws, I think they maybe original, as you say the baseplate should be metal, the plastic causes a lot of trouble when they split or have been overtightened.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Paul great to hear you enjoy playing around with these older type items yourself it's very rewarding, this box of items made for a very enjoyable bank holiday weekend, as you say these old locomotives may well have been apart many times I suspect in a lot of cases because of frustrations of poor running that is all too often the case with this motor design. This one doesn't seem too bad and seems to run in quite a practical manner on the railway. Have you seen those replacement kits that Peter spares are marketing at present made by micromotors? the consist of a couple of 3-D printed parts along with a motor with a shaft on both ends by the looks of it they would require the new motor to be bonded between the original pole pieces with one of the 3-D printed parts are replacing the original magnet. All the best. Oscar

[@petersmith4455]

hi Oscar, that motor does seem to be a bit noisy,check the plastic bearings on the drive shaft, two years ago had my motor bogies overhauled by Scalespeed and they now run quiet,but i think scalespeed has stopped trading which is a big loss to us children of the 60s with Triang toy trains

[@davidstrains4910]

Another great video here Oscar, some really nice items you have got there

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks, David. Great to hear you enjoyed that. Oscar

[@robertgates7686]

Perhaps the replacement screws on the Class 37 motor bogie are a little longer than the originals and bottoming out on the tapped hole. On my model the thread measures 1/4 inch in length. It is a very fine pitch thread. Nice to see old models getting still being valued and used.

[@Jimyjames73]

A good running session for part 2 😉🚂🚂🚂

[@gerardburton3741]

Hi Oscar. I remember getting the Triang/Hornby Night Mail trainset for my 12th birthday. It was the class 37, 2 Mk2 coaches(Brake and open) and the mail coach. Happy memories. I would love to see that class 37 running with the Mk2 coaches and the Mail coach once again. I do not have any stock later than BR blood and custard coaches and all my diesels are in BR green including my class 37's. The fix for the Pullman coach bogies would be quite easy with some small plastic rod glued and painted into place. It would be nice if you could also repair the saddle tank as there seems to be very little wrong with it. You could make a set of steps out of plasticard.

[@oscarpaisley]

Morning Roger great to hear about the mail set you had for your birthday. Must've been a magical time getting that.. I have been thinking about a new step as a 3-D printing project not just for the saddle tank, I have a couple of other models sitting in boxes which would benefit from a step. So may be I will bring that one back into life at some point as soon. I made quite a convincing set for Lima crab a year or so ago which I was quite pleased with. All the best. Oscar

[@roystudds1944]

I got part two before seeing part one. It all makes sense now! Great video as always. Roy.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks again Roy for looking in, glad it all makes sense now. I had published part one an hour before part two, but it seems KZbin is putting part two in the suggestions list over part one.. Take care. Oscar

[@ScreamingLordStokes]

Wow! You really spoiled us this week Oscar. It must've taken quite some time filming and editing all that content, thank you. Some fabulous items there, and plenty of tinkering to get them cleaned up and running nicely. I think the class 37 was available in a set called the Inter-City Express set with a MK1 buffet and three of those mk 2 coaches which, if I remember rightly had chrome window frames at some point. Great running at the end, the 'new' body on the 37 was just the job wasn't it? I had one just like that, but traded it in for the later Hornby Ringfield version which I regretted! Thankfully I have an old triang green version now. The Hymek looked lovely running with those wagons too. Thanks again for not one but two wonderful videos. Regards Antony.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thank you, Antony. Glad you enjoyed that. I think you're right about the intercity express set, and chrome windows at some point, I've an idea there are shiny Crome Windows surrounds and matt chrome variations to be found (too many variations) I've had that body sitting around in the box for some years Great to finally get to use it nice to hear you have the green variation in your collection. I have one of these running on the railway in a video coming up shortly. All the best Oscar

[@rogerking7258]

You're right Oscar. The "six" wheel power bogie is a horrible piece of design. Not only is the keeper plate plastic, but it is made with 90 degree corners which means that the fingers at each end tend to break off. The plastic moulding that the pickup spider mounts onto is also super prone to cracking, especially now they're so old, but the icing on the cake is the plastic armature bearings that also control the end float. I had one where the armature was such a loose fit in these bearings that it literally went into a chattering spasm every time the power was applied and the loco sounded like there was someone trapped inside screaming to get out! Compare it to the four wheel power bogie in the DMU and Pullman where you find the armature running in bronze bearings with oil retaining pads, the end float controlled by tiny ball bearings and a mainly metal construction. It is a properly engineered component, whereas the "six" wheel power bogie is a properly cost cut component.

[@oscarpaisley]

Morning Roger, definitely wasn't their best work. A number of people have said they had these models from new and they didn't run well then, out of the factory.. Take care. Oscar

[@tabletop_railway]

Very interesting two part video, thank you. I didn’t know that the Saddle Tank body is in two parts - must check that on my one - something to do with the fact that there was a clockwork variant ?

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

Hey Oscar, considering you've 2 of the same Type 3 locos, why not combine the best of both into one loco? Was quite surprised by the sbocking condition of the items when you recieved them, but that Hymek is the best of the lot for sure.

[@davidfromborneo259]

Uze washers if screws not seal plastic base plate, those screws look like self tappers and replaced the originals, if you check withanother model they maybe flat heads?!

[@graham76man]

You are indeed right David, my model has flat slot screws. So they have been replaced. I reckon the long screw was from a coach to hold the roof on.

[@RobA500]

It was nice to hear your thought processes whilst going through the box and having already pick up a spare Class 37 body earlier turned out to be a great move. As you have converted the Mk2 coaches to LED lighting would it be possible to add a bit of voltage regulation so they light up with less power much like the modern models do.

[@oscarpaisley]

Morning Rob thanks for taking the time to watch the videos. I think you're right. It's time to have another go under the LED installation in these particular coaches when I did them. I had the Zero one on the railway at the time and they seemed work to quite nice effect on the continuous 16 to 18 V AC in the rails after a little trial and error, the installation of the LEDs was based on the components used in one of Johns amazing trains videos, the controller I'm using at the moment is delivering an average of 6 to 8 V DC to the rails in most cases when running locomotives. All the best. Oscar

[@martinhall60]

Hello Oscar, it's Martin from Hull in the East Riding of Yorkshire again 🙂. I've just watched part 2 of your wonderful video. What an amazing treat to watch two parts of Sunday's video. Well done again Oscar, I really enjoyed part two as well. I've had to make another cup of tea and had a kit kat as well. Thank you again for today's double treat. Keep safe Oscar and see you next week. 👍🚂☕

[@oscarpaisley]

Afternoon Martin thanks for taking the time to watch them both. Great to hear you enjoyed them. Take care. Oscar

[@user-gk8gg1zt7l]

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