6 key concepts for arranging techno

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@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 ай бұрын
The full arranged track on Soundcloud ► soundcloud.com/torcaudio/toolbox Oscar's courses ► courses.underdog.brussels Underdog Mailing List ► eepurl.com/gZmNbv Patreon ► www.patreon.com/underdogmusicschool Discord ► discord.gg/trDbVcDHB3 xysecret label ► xysecret.bandcamp.com/
@LionHrodgari
@LionHrodgari 3 ай бұрын
I think it would be cool to see you analyze your favourite techno track, visualize it(in the same manner) and talk about the structure and tricks used in the track :)
@FinchAshwood-sb6jz
@FinchAshwood-sb6jz 3 ай бұрын
this would be great
@dansimco
@dansimco 3 ай бұрын
+1
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 ай бұрын
Have you checked my patreon? 😄 i analyse loads of tracks there!
@LionHrodgari
@LionHrodgari 3 ай бұрын
@@OscarUnderdog I have not, thanks for the tip!
@tvdeath
@tvdeath 3 ай бұрын
+1
@davidbaker231
@davidbaker231 Күн бұрын
Probably the best dance music arranging concepts video I've seen yet. So much good information here.
@dlyutov
@dlyutov 3 ай бұрын
This is probably the most exciting and apprehensive techno arrangement tutorial on YT! Much appreciation, great job, Oscar!
@charlesotto6821
@charlesotto6821 3 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!!! keep em coming bro
@Vingul
@Vingul 3 ай бұрын
Comprehensive, maybe ;)
@dlyutov
@dlyutov 3 ай бұрын
@@Vingul you’re right, my bad 😬
@Vingul
@Vingul 3 ай бұрын
@@dlyutov no worries ^^
@Ice55
@Ice55 2 ай бұрын
Switching from singer/songwriter style to more electronic music I was literally waiting for years for someone to make a video with explanation like this. Awesome job
@rainbowphi6
@rainbowphi6 2 ай бұрын
Same!! This makes so much sense. It was so hard to get out of verse/chorus mode, and I found myself doing “anti chorus” where the energy dropped… and now I see why!
@AnalogueRecall
@AnalogueRecall 2 ай бұрын
This video should have awards. Im sure this will change many creative's lives. Thank you Oscar. 🏆🎖🏅🥇
@audiomon
@audiomon Ай бұрын
To me, this is one of the most useful-and possibly THE most useful-music production-related videos I’ve ever seen! And I’ve seen way too many! Thank you, Oscar!
@belanabelbel3252
@belanabelbel3252 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for being so generouns with your knowledge
@ArmoredMeat
@ArmoredMeat Ай бұрын
This is the best arrangement instruction I have watched on KZbin or anywhere. It’s almost like a light bulb moment. Great video!
@rossnwilliams
@rossnwilliams 25 күн бұрын
This is a great arrangement video. I like how you give everything names.
@panyax16
@panyax16 Ай бұрын
i must confess watching your channel that you made for the electronic music and our culture more than a major part of modern electronic artists. sharing your knowledges here you keep the real dance timeless music alive. cheers!
@josemalik1404
@josemalik1404 2 ай бұрын
Keep coming back to this video for inspiration. Thank you for your work
@DmitryInNz
@DmitryInNz 3 ай бұрын
Another banger of a video, Oscar!! Would love to see a companion videos when the finished track is played with the diagram highlighting these elements
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 ай бұрын
I was considering such a video but i feel the youtube algorithm wouldnt like it 😅
@tazsidney6910
@tazsidney6910 3 ай бұрын
Incredible video
@stewartallen7016
@stewartallen7016 Ай бұрын
just found this channel trying to add some structure to my musical noodling. Very cool and look forward to digging into the back catalog.
@nickwright210
@nickwright210 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Oscar! It’s so important to have a plan to progress that loop! Loving your work x
@researchintospeed
@researchintospeed 3 ай бұрын
Such a masterclass. Bears repeated viewing, Thanks @OscarUnderdog!
@God-Knows-I-Dont
@God-Knows-I-Dont 2 ай бұрын
Makes sense when ya see it explained like that. Turn arounds are interesting, will experiment. Thank you.
@donotopenhagen
@donotopenhagen 3 ай бұрын
I just wanted to thank you for all of the work you do. I ran into your KZbin channel and then purchased the industrial techno course. I still feel like I can't produce shit, but I had virtually 0 experience before and you're one of a very few people out there that make complicated things sounds not overwhelming, which makes me feel like I'm getting there. Keep it on!
@ripperthecrooks6428
@ripperthecrooks6428 2 ай бұрын
I find your video very interesting. I have never actually thought about it this way, except to put my main good loop in the middle. This concept is very brilliant to avoid making boring tracks. I find that arrangement is crucial and it's the area I struggle the most. Thanks good work!
@romi2910001
@romi2910001 3 ай бұрын
I recently went to a rave party in a a small hall, I thought it was gonna be mediocre and boy was i wrong. I was so blown by how these guys were playing, . I never even in the past heard a dj keep the energy and momentum so perfectly balanced, no dull moments yea I'll say that again no dull moments not one, no one left the people that kept coming in staying and didn't leave everybody was dancing or moving. I could help to think very soon someone with big pockets is gonna pick these guys up and offer them a contract.
@flazay_da
@flazay_da 3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THE VISUAL GUIDE!!! Arrangement is definitely my biggest weakness. I've watched tons of vids on it so most of these concepts aren't new but seeing the changes sketched out definitely helps. Will try the drawing method to make a 'rough draft' of clips and ideas
@az1m3th
@az1m3th 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Excellent tips and tricks!
@sr.rockefeller
@sr.rockefeller 3 ай бұрын
one of the best teachers online
@krisrulz95
@krisrulz95 Ай бұрын
Thank you for consistently making such great content - it's helped me so much on my music making journey!
@lefaurexavier1447
@lefaurexavier1447 3 ай бұрын
great Oscar!!!1 Some things always need clarity...that was one of those...thanks again!
@hurricane6014
@hurricane6014 3 ай бұрын
Oscar, you have a gift to teach that goes well with your musical substance. Thanks for your time and effort.
@odin2969
@odin2969 3 ай бұрын
one of the most helpful videos I ever watched, i found myself multiple times struggling with how to do the arrangement and make it more structured thanks!! :)
@alvarosaura2574
@alvarosaura2574 3 ай бұрын
Oscar this video is gold. Thanks for being such a good teacher.
@zenluiz
@zenluiz 3 ай бұрын
Holy moly, I wish I had watched this video 10 years ago. Your didactics is awesome!
@ceetronic
@ceetronic 3 ай бұрын
Possibly one of your best videos Oscar. Got a lot from this, thank you
@Hoihaufen
@Hoihaufen 3 ай бұрын
Perfect inspiration cooked down to the point where I need it! I always find myself with a really nice 4 bar groove, but I'm unable to write a good story without either killing the groove or overdoing it with tons of layers. If you have more knowledge or inspiration about tomb and percussive heavy but minimal grooves that would be very welcomed. Keep up the good work ma man
@LukeAnnakin
@LukeAnnakin 3 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Jeff mills the bells I was listening too the track today trying too think of old but gold tunes so still very fresh in my mind love your videos bro your vids always inspire me such a pleasure always thankyou. ☮❤💪🙂
@SteveOrton-p9v
@SteveOrton-p9v 2 ай бұрын
Another excellent video!! Very usable arrangement info!! Thanks : )
@HPSHTofficial
@HPSHTofficial 3 ай бұрын
That’s great to get a better view on how to structure your track.
@OlehSobolev
@OlehSobolev 3 ай бұрын
God bless you, man! You are amazing!
@paulantoni1046
@paulantoni1046 2 ай бұрын
actually writing it out is a good tip //// i haven't done that in a few years...would be good to get back into that habit
@CemeterySoulsMusic
@CemeterySoulsMusic 3 ай бұрын
This is 100% the BEST video on this subject ever created! ❤❤❤❤
@tazsidney6910
@tazsidney6910 3 ай бұрын
That grainy kick even sounds lush through my phone!!!
@Subscillator
@Subscillator 3 ай бұрын
Can't give enough thumbs up for this. Great explanation as usual!
@Jesspyre
@Jesspyre Ай бұрын
Your content really hits home. THANK YOU!
@mikeaistrop3408
@mikeaistrop3408 2 ай бұрын
Just love this approach, Oscar. Simple, but effective. I'm currently stuck in an arrangement avoidance cycle. I love making little loops and EQing it, but then i just cannot face arranging it!!! It's so frustrating, and i have a feeling this might have just helped me overcome that Peace, Love and Sweaty Raver Hugs Mike
@crankcuffin7238
@crankcuffin7238 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this great tutorial. Really helpful for a beginner such as me.
@d.d.70
@d.d.70 3 ай бұрын
Damn Oscar!! Your such a great, inspiring and very skilled teacher!! Thanks a lot for this perfect lesson!!
@Artes.Antorcha
@Artes.Antorcha 2 ай бұрын
oscar, i reaally wish you the best , you're great! beast master thxs! love from buenos aires ♥
@CJMarsicanoPA
@CJMarsicanoPA 3 ай бұрын
This video came up for me at the right time, as I’ve been plotting out concepts for some tracks in a similar fashion (only sometimes I actually use staff paper since I’m comfortable with notation).
@laurentbouchard6897
@laurentbouchard6897 3 ай бұрын
When I see Oscar I’m sure it’s Monday and I know I’m going to have a good week. Thanks again to its great Foundation of Electric Music 1 & 2!!! I’m looking forward to the 3rd ;-)
@Andrew-rz7qt
@Andrew-rz7qt 3 ай бұрын
I agree with this statement ☝️😁🤙
@smashhead9728
@smashhead9728 3 ай бұрын
You do the best "how to do" videos on KZbin! Love it!
@charlesbronson2806
@charlesbronson2806 3 ай бұрын
All of these techno videos have been super inspiring 🙌
@MrZardoz303
@MrZardoz303 2 ай бұрын
Super helpful, for me this has come at the perfect time. Thanks again, Oscar!
@drydessert4198
@drydessert4198 3 ай бұрын
Oscar, you have a really great view on that brick wall. I'm jealous. ;-D
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 ай бұрын
Gorgeous brussels urbanism ✨✨✨
@victornoagbodji
@victornoagbodji 3 ай бұрын
This was a great tutorial! Thank you so much for doing and sharing it 😊🙏
@MaceOjala
@MaceOjala 3 ай бұрын
Great that the studio wall in the background looks like an arrangement. Techno forever 🔨🔨🔨🔨
@ZeaZeaZeaMx
@ZeaZeaZeaMx 2 ай бұрын
Great video Oscar!
@Einganzeralex
@Einganzeralex 3 ай бұрын
This was so helpful do get something startet thank you so much for that
@konzekuenze
@konzekuenze 3 ай бұрын
And again, Oscar delivers another bomb on the internet!!!
@toph_us
@toph_us 3 ай бұрын
This is gold dude!! Solid tutorial 🙌🏻
@benlewis6453
@benlewis6453 3 ай бұрын
Lovely to see arrangement explained so well. As always some great ideas I’m looking forward to putting into practice x
@ConsoleGlow
@ConsoleGlow 2 ай бұрын
Great tips. I never plan a electronic track this way, but it could be a good tool for me. Also for my rockband. I will use this. Thanks!
@simonseyz11
@simonseyz11 3 ай бұрын
Awesome information and insight. Dank je wel mijn vriend!👍🏻😃
@zeridium9129
@zeridium9129 2 ай бұрын
Great content every time, keep up with the blast !
@trevormalcolm4328
@trevormalcolm4328 3 ай бұрын
Love your channel! After giving up on Ableton years back to simplify my setup this is pretty much the same way I arrange my tracks on my MPC!
@paolomatricardi9584
@paolomatricardi9584 3 ай бұрын
thanks Oscar, always useful with your videos, i really like your training concept.
@philesdaile8111
@philesdaile8111 3 ай бұрын
Nice! Great tool for roadblocks
@edvardmyhre8162
@edvardmyhre8162 Ай бұрын
You are a goldmine!
@gnomescape
@gnomescape 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Oscar. I think this will really help me structure stuff better. That is one area I really struggle.
@tehcatakai
@tehcatakai 3 ай бұрын
For me whenever I get stuck on arrangement it usually tends to be because I haven't created enough parts for a song yet OR the parts that I have made for a song haven't been varied up enough. This plus working on fills between sections seems to help a lot
@TechnoPulse9
@TechnoPulse9 3 ай бұрын
Very nice workflow, thx
@dj_Davepz
@dj_Davepz 3 ай бұрын
Agreed all. Youv explained this superbly. 👌
@knightrider5021
@knightrider5021 3 ай бұрын
Once again excellent video! thanx!
@CH-vk6zy
@CH-vk6zy 3 ай бұрын
I find your tutorials to be very helpful and always find an idea to implement immediately- thank you!!
@tehnofonaieraksti
@tehnofonaieraksti 2 ай бұрын
wery good advice. this would be realy helpfull back in days when i tried to figure out this by myself . keep up good job !
@Hermann-Audio
@Hermann-Audio 3 ай бұрын
You are such a good teacher and come up with many interesting topics. I love your style! Thanks a lot Oscar ❤
@jakemcfee6379
@jakemcfee6379 2 ай бұрын
I needed this
@MarketingVideos-q3q
@MarketingVideos-q3q 3 ай бұрын
Thank you buddy
@nicogrubert
@nicogrubert 3 ай бұрын
Dear Oscar. Thanks a lot for this tutorial. I have not finished a single track during the last 3 years but I created around 150 track ideas during these 3 years where around 10%-15% of them could be real bangers. I produce music since 1998 but the older I become, the less tracks I finish. I don‘t know if there is a fear to fail with the arrangement or it is just boring to arrange the idea to a full track. I love creating new ideas so I never start arranging… is anyone in the same situation? Whenever I listen to techno tracks I often think, this arrangement is so simple. Why I don‘t finish my last track idea like this one?
@jasonogara207
@jasonogara207 3 ай бұрын
Awesome again dude
@justinbraveheart26
@justinbraveheart26 3 ай бұрын
The most important thing that you need to remember is that if you make dance music, you track will be played only for certain amount of time. A dj uses around 3 minutes max from your track before another track is mixed in. So first for techno in particular, dj's want to smoothly mix a track in and out and that will leave you with approx 1.5 min mix in part en 1.5 min mix out part. Between those minutes that's the place where your main focus must be. Dj music is not music you listen often from the first second to the last but you mainly will hear it between mixes. A lot of djs who produce dance music do not much more in the first 1.5 minutes then just starting with almost full beat. Introducing hat loops and an upcoming sound and then a break with an introducing sound, low end cut and then come back with the beat and build it up again until the break and then just start over with rearrangend parts until the end. While producers try to keep the song in such a way that it's made so that you can listen to many variations and still keep.that format running.
@TamlynRhodes
@TamlynRhodes 3 ай бұрын
Billions of streams on Spotify disagree with you on that.
@justinbraveheart26
@justinbraveheart26 3 ай бұрын
Computer says no
@professorscrim5303
@professorscrim5303 3 ай бұрын
Not at all. Some dj's who use Traktor have 4 tracks running at once and one could be there for 7-8 mins.
@BAULSI
@BAULSI Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, it helps a lot
@jamisondonald384
@jamisondonald384 3 ай бұрын
This is excellent. Also, you give off such good vibes
@tomv2500
@tomv2500 3 ай бұрын
Another great video Oscar, thank you
@robtronik
@robtronik 3 ай бұрын
This is an excellent and concise description of techno arrangement. Very timely as I'm working on this very thing now for live construction of techno set. Super awesome. Thank you!
@ikarus8811
@ikarus8811 3 ай бұрын
Your tutorials are really worth their weight in gold! Thank you very much!
@roytosseram3831
@roytosseram3831 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this inspirational video
@manmadeartists
@manmadeartists 3 ай бұрын
Why every video you put out is pure gold? I wish I would have more time to binge watch and then try out all your advices.
@aaronjenkins385
@aaronjenkins385 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Thank you for being so generous with your time and knowledge. You have succinctly captured such a breadth of information, absolute gold, keep up the great work!
@somedude9876
@somedude9876 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Your awesome
@TheChurlishBoor
@TheChurlishBoor 3 ай бұрын
That vid was a banger mate, nice one!
@jdstarek
@jdstarek 3 ай бұрын
This is great. I love the diagram. Subscribed! I actually do this in my Live DAW. I color code each phrase up in the top of the project and add notes like (Cut Kick, Add chords, open ARP filter, etc). I'd love to see a follow up video where you show your project alongside the diagram (and any changes you made during execution). Bonus: if you show us the automations you use to create the variation/separation in those phrases.
@An3z-u5h
@An3z-u5h 3 ай бұрын
Exactly what i need in my musical development right now! Love the synchronicity Have a nice day Oscar!
@DN4E
@DN4E 3 ай бұрын
The video this channel should (in my perfect imaginary world) have started with! Thank you so much for this ♥ A lot of different ideas might feel too much from a youtube creator perspective but for us who are trying to add as many tools as possible to our toolbox it's perfect!
@katerrumpel5118
@katerrumpel5118 3 ай бұрын
Always a treat, this Oscar :) Much appreciated!!
@ericyeschke4965
@ericyeschke4965 3 ай бұрын
Great guide!
@xlat808
@xlat808 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting the complete track up on SoundCloud. I can hear all the tools you applied. Super helpful. To my ear, it sounds like the tools and the structure are operating at a longer time scale (16 bars) than the groove (1 bar). Maybe that's the "hypnotic" vibe you are going for, but I wonder what it would feel like if your groove were a full 16 bars.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 3 ай бұрын
Yeah! The core of this track is a polymetered lead, i think 7/16th notes long, so the rhythmic cell is close to half a bar, and then other longer devices are put on top.
@Andrew-rz7qt
@Andrew-rz7qt 3 ай бұрын
Definitely saving this one in my bank of enlightenment ❤
@bobbyrinehart1299
@bobbyrinehart1299 3 ай бұрын
Another great video! 🤘
@DeathOfGroovebox
@DeathOfGroovebox 3 ай бұрын
You really are a techno engineer! :D
@andrewbrehaut
@andrewbrehaut 3 ай бұрын
Breaking the composition into ten and then positioning the break at the in the 6th block makes me really interested in the relationship of that particular dynamic shift with respect to the golden ration (which falls at about 61%) which is supposed to be very pleasing to our pattern loving brains, and how that setup for the break puts the drop on the second half of the section, whereas if you shifted it to the 7th block, starts the break on the section. I also wonder how that sort of perception of a golden ration is shifted when a track is mixed with other tracks.
@jaki3885
@jaki3885 3 ай бұрын
what a great video fr
@vacation_generation
@vacation_generation 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video.
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