Mum tries out Windows 8 (2012) on a Surface Pro (2013)

[@radughita1992]

"Am I the only one who likes touching the surface home button?" "That's pretty sad if that's what you like touching" I died.

[@kinbruh]

SAME HAHAHA

[@SeanMontebello]

"That's pretty sad if that's what you like touching" Oh my god that killed me.

[@thesadkidnextdoor9613]

Ayy lmao

[@92centpetrol89]

i agree

[@dylanmiles4293]

Hi Dylan

[@dylanmiles4293]

Hi dylan

[@belindakennedy1336]

yeah I agree

[@Z9R.]

Okay, Diana gave microsoft the idea to put the power icon on the start screen in Windows 8.1

[@IntellitechStudios]

when did they do that? then again I only used Win8.1 in a corporate environment, where they don't update anything.

[@Satialfactory]

+ThatGTAFan720 the new win 8.1 update (2014) and win 8.1 was released in 2013

[@IntellitechStudios]

Yes_ yep, just updated my new Acer Ultrabook from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1, and there is a Power and search Icon on the Start Screen.

[@elijahtorres2688]

Actually, when Diana tried out the Windows 10 Technical Preview, Phillip stated that Microsoft sent them an e-mail saying that they watched their videos involving Windows 8 and said that Diana’s feedback and criticism actually helped them improved and add some stuff in Windows 8.1.

[@TamjeedFN]

@@IntellitechStudios but there is a start menu

[@jamo8896]

"Can you get to the desktop?" (first vid) Isn't this the desktop? "Can you get to the desktop?" (this vid) Isn't this the desktop? gg also i like pressing the surface key

[@metro_ken]

😂😂

[@GoldDominik893]

What do u mean good game

[@brurmonemt]

History repeats itself ladies and gentlemen.

[@caryleedavisvideo]

Coolest Mom ever.

[@bwabwa]

Yea

[@meta1139]

I know right (kinda late, sorry)

[@shxellyyt7656]

Yeah

[@shxellyyt7656]

@@meta1139 yeah I agree we are very late

[@TechNetworkUK]

@boy damen lol

[@OsFirstTimer]

Ah, so I'm not the only one who gets a buzz (literally) by pressing the surface pro logo button ;)

[@DrLifeGamer]

"That's pretty sad if that's what you like touching"

[@LimitFinity]

yes

[@saturniunyttech679]

That’s the Windows logo

[@5up3rp3rs0n]

"Oh you know what? I've got an extra small little pen for you" "*laughs* oh god I thought you're going to say something else"

[@yo252]

"Oh you know what? I've got an extra small loan of a million dollers"

[@Pierre61]

You guys are great. I bought my 92yo mum a Chromebook, and she's having a grand time facebooking her grandkids and clicking her teeth on KZbin :)

[@chonkydog6262]

Wow

[@Un0rdin4rYPr0gr4mmeR]

Man, your mum is great. I don't mean it in a negative or filthy way, but rather she's so joyful and cheerful person, and she's absolutely adorable. I think that both of you did a great job by doing these series and sharing them with the rest of the world ;)

[@junayed653]

Yea i get it what you mean 😈😈

[@IceCream69420e]

​@@junayed653what then

[@mgalarzasoto]

I like the chemistry you guys have, super nice video. Lovely sister, poor girl she felt down :( God bless you all!

[@bobsobol]

The issue with a shut down option not being handy is because Microsoft recommend that you _never_ shut down Windows 8+. It will try to download, install and apply updates during long periods of standby, but can't do anything once shut down. Standby means your device is always ready for you to get working, where only turning the device on when you want to use it and shutting it down as soon as you're done means that it's constantly getting behind on it's general maintenance, and forced to do that stuff in the background while you work, which makes your device feel very sluggish. They've learned this from iOS and Android, but it's also completely contradictory to EU environmental guidelines which actually recommend that all household devices be physically unplugged from the mains when not actively in use. That may work for battery backed Windows tablets, but they'll always be flat when you go to them in that case. XD

[@bobsobol]

@Alex Playzz Windows 8+ includes any Windows after 8... So Windows 10 (any build) they still want it put to sleep, not turned off... But that doesn't help with Laptops which quickly go flat if you don't properly turn them off when not in use.

[@NeoNemesis1166]

your mom is adorable and i love that she did all this and actually tried all these Operating systems. good on your mom being very adventurous.

[@OsFirstTimer]

They are both very different devices and recently I've had trouble comparing them. I like the ipad (My dad's iPad now) for the greatly designed apps and the amazing number of them unlike the surface app store with poorer quality apps and a lot less that the apple app store. The iPad is also much nicer to hold than the surface pro. I love the ability to run a full windows 8 and desktop apps though. It really makes me feel unrestricted!

[@OsFirstTimer]

The focus is on operating systems, not devices. Surface pro 2 runs Windows 8.1 however a surface pro 1 can also be upgraded to windows 8.1. the only real difference between the 2 would be a potential performance boost.

[@matrixlander85]

I love this lady. So open minded to new things. MAJOR THUMBS UP!!!!

[@carolteater9456]

I love these vids! Your Mom makes me smile, I love how she just takes things in stride, and is so centered. Also, your little sister is just too cute!

[@OsFirstTimer]

I was only going along the lines of what she was saying. Notice my sentence is almost identical to her previous sentence?

[@MrPluspack]

After watching this video I am definitely not getting my parents windows 8. I would have to move back in. This is crazy looool. Lucky your mom is patient. Thanks man saved me a life time of stress looooll. Great job.

[@wyatttomlinson3475]

Trying to tap stuff on the desktop just shows how much Windows 10 has improved things. Now, all the menus are expanded for touch use in the new Tablet Mode in 20H2 (and in the older Tablet Mode), as well as File Explorer's navigation tools, the drag area for windows themselves, etc.

[@mayabogdanova9506]

There is windows 11

[@wyatttomlinson3475]

@@mayabogdanova9506 I know, and I have Windows 11 on my Surface Pro 8. It's even better than what I described here.

[@adobewanjerkobi]

Your mum is lovely and its nice to see she isn't afraid to try new things. :)

[@astr0xarthur49]

When Diana said: Extra small little thing. Idk why I was laughing my head off for like 17 mins. LMAO 😂

[@LostRoaming]

It's funny that the changes your mom suggested were implemented in windows 8.1. At the very least the power button location and close buttons for apps. Keep up the good work. Very unique method of reviewing. Nice family btw. Cheers. :-)

[@MrErick1160]

your mother is a techsavy, she understand really fast how computer works ! mine couldn't even do 10 % of that, even by explaining it 20 times, she would still forget it right after !

[@namesurname4666]

It depends , if she's not interested she wouldn't learn...

[@SebsterTV]

StartIsBack is the best Windows 8 start menu. It nearly looks 100% identical to the Start menu in Windows 7. You should check it out, I'd highly recommend it. It only costs 3 U.S. dollars to purchase, but it comes with a 30 day trial, and you can have it as a companion with the Windows 8 start screen.

[@SamBaughTV]

That's pretty sad if that's what you like touching.

[@Exilor]

I'm so glad you commented that. Now I can be 100% sure that we both watched the same video. Started to get a bit woried :l

[@MotionPlays]

***** When your mum confirms your virginity

[@ASBCHazel]

Samuel Baugh I

[@ExWEIMan]

@@Exilor SB is a great original thinker.

[@bringslovetoyou]

I definitely agree. "You're a noob" is not an acceptable excuse. Calling it Windows 8 does not mean you have to be an IT geek to use. You should think about everyone when making an OS: Noobs, Students, Parents, Experts. Bits of advice and complaints make up a perfect software so don't ignore it...

[@97BuckeyeNut]

Your mom is spot on when she says Windows 8 is much more suitable to a touchscreen device. I've had it on a desktop for several months and have gotten used to it, but just recently, I've had the opportunity to work with a Surface Pro for a couple of days. The Surface Pro is an outstanding piece of hardware. I'm considering making a purchase of one myself.

[@Mark_Gonzales]

I always find your videos interesting. It's fascinating to listen to your Mom's comments as she struggles with each OS.

[@lilpuffletymon3491]

Philip, I hope your little sister got better.

[@adamfranklin8254]

Its cool how Diana's opinions were used to make Windows 8.1 and 10!

[@bckspc81]

When you tested the iPad it was already on and on stand-by... the surface was powered down so I believe that if the iPad was powered down it would be more difficult to turn on than the surface.

[@Yapity111]

A fun thing to do in the travel app, tap a panorama photo and then move the Surface around. It moves with you like a window into the destination! pretty fun.

[@MalexAPI475]

Agreed. I may not have a Surface quite yet, but from all the reviews i've seen and including this one, I'm 100% sure that i'll definitely get a Surface Pro. What an awesome OS. Surƒace FTW

[@OsFirstTimer]

you saw me unbox it... you didn't see Diana try it.

[@spartanjames_]

why am i the first person to like this comment im going to buy a microsoft surface soon congrats on 100k has your plaque arrived yet for me im on 26 subs :(

[@OnIaOm]

19:47 Windows 8.1 update 1 does have the power menu into the start screen

[@Looeelooee]

24:10 they actually did add an "x" button to all of the apps in the latest update

[@tell1998]

Jhon Tom i was going to type that

[@simonepadovan569]

windows 8.1??? the real name is ..another service pack....... ! LOL

[@doug1489]

They should make the desktop app a bit bigger than the rest because its significant. I couldnt find mine till like 20 minutes later

[@g67785]

Am I the only one who actually liked windows 8 on desktop?

[@senge1337]

No

[@rohankhatri3226]

No. I loved it. I hate windows 10. I loved the start screen. It looked quite modern.

[@phage-phroton7690]

@@rohankhatri3226 same dude. I liked scrolling wallpapers and transparent wallpaper on a start screen. win10 felt boring.

[@safctaylorr]

@@rohankhatri3226 You can turn on tablet mode in the Notification Center and make the start menu like windows 8.

[@safctaylorr]

@@ThatRandomToast oh, I didn’t realise that’s a feature. Thanks for that, I might enable it 👍

[@OsFirstTimer]

Works awesome but if you zoom out too much or have lots of objects it gets laggy.

[@diablocls55]

Notice how he has StarCraft 2 and Steam installed on his tablet :)

[@5up3rp3rs0n]

Just some headsups: 1. You can find all programs by dragging down on Start Screen. You can hold (pull down, or right click) the apps to pin them on Start Screen or Task Bar. You can thus put things like Calculator on your Start Screen. 2. You can rename the "bunch of tiles" into things, so kinda like categories or folders. 3. To shutdown you can also long hold Power button (until it shuts down, but not after since it may reboot) or hold both Power and Volume Up (Two button shutdown). 4. iirc Simply dragging would've worked for the tiles. At least this is the case in Windows 10 which they did improve the Metro UI. This comes from someone who has received a Win8 laptop (No touchscreen) and was only taught to slide down to close windows. Idk why but it clicked for me quite well. Also thinking of the dragging apps away that reminds me of what happened in Mac OSX Jaguar, where she simply dragging the windows off the screen to get rid of it. I think this is kind of what Microsoft is thinking.

[@arekwarren4372]

yeah. 5 pc's are worth $99:99c! Diana :D!

[@WhyWePlayTruckSims]

Maybe on eBay :F

[@namesurname4666]

$20 for a crappy slow damaged windows xp netbook XD

[@spartanjames_]

Yeah buy some 1gb ram core duo rubbish that can barely run windows xp

[@HuDriv3r]

I think the best Startmenu out there now is the StartIsBack. It's totally native so it doesn't use any extra processes or services. In functionality it's very similar to Start8, but it's so much more better, and also cheaper, only $3 for 2 PC.

[@serouj2000]

"I will not have this running on my computer" Nevertheless,she does now

[@IntellitechStudios]

Technically, that was Windows 8.1, now 10.

[@serouj2000]

ThatGTAFan720 Really? Because What I heard they only called it Windows 8

[@IntellitechStudios]

Windows 8.1 is essenitiallly Windows 8 SP1 or Windows 8 TH2.

[@TheSystemExplorer]

I I call Windows 8.1 Windows 9

[@serouj2000]

ThatGTAFan720 with the only difference that 8 and 8.1 didn't have the same NT version while TH1,TH2,RS1,RS2,RS3 did

[@athanasiosziakas2290]

Diana is slowly getting better with Windows 8.1

[@bigmack0033]

"Good finger techniques?" No wonder you told the kid to leave the room.

[@GeorgeMulak]

Mum is great! She is pretty sharp and brave too! I love all the questions. Sure shows how hard it is to get into Win 8 without any instruction!

[@usynnstradler]

aww cute little sister :)

[@TDGalea]

I used to say the exact same (Win8 being more suited for touch screens), until I got used to it. I absolutely love Windows 8 now. I have it installed on both my desktop and laptop, and my Acer Iconia w3 tablet. With "Classic Shell" you can get the original start menu back, which is what I used to use, until I just didn't want to have that anymore. I honestly think I've become more productive with Windows 8 than I was with any other OS. People should just give it time.

[@BrandonOSX]

His sister is gonna be like my sister, we are 8 years apart :P

[@BrandonOSX]

AIRA Productions// Minecraft Gameplay When i am his age

[@BrandonOSX]

AIRA Productions// Minecraft Gameplay When i am his age

[@OsFirstTimer]

The Surface runs RT but the Surface Pro runs the full version of Windows 8 with the ability to run both desktop and metro apps. Check out the surface pro on the official microsoft website for more information.

[@TheVlogeek]

i like touching the logo

[@bksimonsen]

This video is useful in various ways. What a nice mum! She is convincing as a lady who simply wants to get on with things, and therefore shows mixed feelings along the way when she can't. However, she remains positive, and she sums up her experience giving a fair amount of credit to Windows 8 on a tablet. Her voice should be heard. I agree wrt. to the tutorial. In fact, done wisely I believe that could totally circumvent the frustrations.

[@lucasgaming3923]

Windows 7 should be supported by Microsoft FOREVER!

[@Merobieboy]

No. It should me ended right NOW

[@DerpProductionz]

I FEEL YOU MAN

[@tomislavfranov5923]

Lol why?

[@tomislavfranov5923]

I know xp's better but...

[@chuuisinsane]

Windows 7 Aero is amazing. Windows 7’s interface is amazing. Windows 7’s compatibility is amazing. Windows 7 is amazing.

[@Lolp821]

Other operating systems didn't have a tutorial though. I still think she should've sat down with it on a desktop again, bring the start menu back with the ClassicShell/start8 and it's great. If they left out metro people would be saying "Any way of getting it on Windows 8?". Even with metro in the background Windows 8 performed better than 7.

[@Nightmist]

“They throw in 5 PCs” -Diana Adams 2013

[@BobJones-zf6ie]

Actually a swipe from the right not only brings out the charms, but if you notice the time, WiFi status and power level appear in a large box off to the left hand side of the screen.

[@GoldDominik893]

Diana is funnyyyyyyy

[@OsFirstTimer]

Yep, anything you can stick into the usb port will work just like a desktop computer running windows 8 would

[@Mefrom_Here]

Lol that's pretty sad if that's what u like to touch lol high five

[@felipebelfs]

Beautiful sister!!! Congratulations for your family!

[@ComputerGuy8181]

Why does she keep associating this with the iPad? The Surface is much better than the iPad.

[@IdealIdeas100]

It would be even better if you could upgrade the tablet to windows 7. (I dont have a tablet so I wouldnt know if you can) And she keeps associating it with the Ipad because they are both tablet computers, if you can even consider an Ipad a tablet computer *laughs hysterically*

[@IdealIdeas100]

Andy Liu Wouldnt it be better to buy the windows 8 tablet and then upgrade it to windows 7? Newer tablets usually mean better hardware.

[@benhollis9395]

because they're tablets... omg

[@drogers02]

*downgrade

[@90sNath]

But sadly dad wants me to have an ipad But! Good thing I have a windows 8 computer to make it like a Surface!

[@OsFirstTimer]

Shutdown the surface pro then turn it on while holding the volume up button. You can disable secure boot from there

[@alexfirth]

This woman loves Wall street and iPads.

[@OsFirstTimer]

Thanks for the compliment

[@KentStudios_YTB]

I am watching this on a surface

[@ethan-lv2fq]

So am I lol :)

[@gesho7598]

Prove it that he is a LIAR

[@MATTINTEXAS19]

I ran across the same thing with my father when I showed him my Surface Pro BUT, when my 5 year old little girl took hold of it, 30 minutes later she was in Nick Jr website playing games. After 2 months of use, she is so proficient she could actually explain, sell, and navigate better than Best Buy agents. Plus she has no OS biases that are so predominate in these types of videos... Love my pro, hopefully your Mom gets it.. haha

[@macboerTV]

Sorry to say. Windows 8 FAIL.

[@Unclean666]

***** Agreed! I work for a State ran Mental Health facility and we're still on WinXP SP3. Thankfully Windows 8.x is NOT on our upgrade path. Id probably find a new job if I had to support this dog turd in an enterprise environment. However our so-called Physicians are getting shiny iPad Air's so they can do documentation. Shoot me!

[@ThePixelPolygon]

Rahil Uddin I already knew how to use Windows 8 before using it!

[@ThePixelPolygon]

Rahil Uddin I already knew how to use Windows 8 before using it!

[@CosmicConsole]

That's just your opinion. Everyone likes what they like. I think Windows 8 is great! I'm getting a Surface 2 for Christmas and I've already tried Windows 8 on a non- touchscreen laptop. Sure it's different, but change is in nature, and software companies. :)

[@JackDLong]

Gamerz Crafted I'm late.

[@theaustralianhulk]

Microsoft be incredibly smart to hire you and your mom as consultants.

[@yabanize]

I think you should let her try it on a desktop computer again, Its not bad once you realise the start screen is just a big start menu and you learn your way around it. Its windows 7, without a start menu, and very fast

[@Xəeroh]

Your mum is such a good sport, Phillip!

[@OsFirstTimer]

The next "Mum tries out" will be Chrome OS however we may do a special video next.... I was thinking about doing a "talking bout operating systems prank". Basically I need to go up to random people on the street and list the names of 10 random operating systems in a conversation without them knowing I am talking about operating systems. If they get suspicious I lose e.g. "My brother Zorin OS said he would meet me at the Linux mint shop next to Ubuntu but I can't find him. I need to backtrack...

[@chonerazon140]

ExclusiveSigma there are massive differences about different english; we have english (us), english (aus) , english (uk) .... in this case english (aus) and english (uk) have the most similarities in types of spelling. For example of that is the word "realize", this word is in the form of english (us) but if youre going to have it spelled by an englishman they're gonna spell it as "realise" :D Hope that helped your confusions :)

[@Nahiyan12]

The main thing I like about windows 8 is the graphics. Plain color looks really smart and sleek.

[@moonshimmer9341]

This really showcases how the OS is confusing to people. I had no issue using it because I was interested in its design but normal people wouldn’t even be able to find a way to get to desktop or view all apps

[@muhammadadibabdulrahim9986]

The hotcorner can actually be removed in the settings. Or maybe that's just in Windows 8.1 :)

[@StripeFox]

Dude, I totally adore your place :P Nice video.

[@OsFirstTimer]

Great to hear ;)

[@OsFirstTimer]

Everything is done as a first experience and none of this is rehearsed or acted otherwise they wouldn't be her true impressions. This video was 49 minutes long cut down to 29 minutes long. I have to keep it short so people wanna watch it and keep the words flowing without stumbling. For example if I say "I love the windows 8, err, I mean surface pro because its nice to touch err I mean, nice to hold and ultra portable" I need to make that better so that's why I edit. To keep it smooth and short

[@Brainy1422]

General rule of thumb is anything intensive will not work well on the intel IGP. I believe there is a clone of that app in the app store that runs really well (I have it on my laptop). The cpu is underclocked version of an I5 so cpu wise it isn't too bad. The intel IGP will really slow things down though as the drivers aren't made very well, but this has been improving and I would recommend waiting for the new set of tablets that will increase the performance greatly.

[@will1565]

ha your mum is epic... i really hope people at Microsoft have seen this video as i'm sure your mum isn't the only person who feels this was about Windows 8. I had to install a program in the end to make it look like 7. Stardock if you're interested

[@Wigglythegreat2]

This video was fun and helpful. Thank you.

[@super_slav91]

Windows 8 is the biggest turd that Microsoft has developed.

[@KieranTheSpartanFTW]

You must not have been around during the days of Vista ;) lol

[@super_slav91]

K.R.M productions. Actually, I was around since the days if windows 95, vista was actually good if you had a PC with enough power, RAM was expensive back then so of course allot of people would have problems running vista on 2gb or less of RAM.

[@super_slav91]

***** At least the ui is workable in me.

[@Merobieboy]

What about windows 7?

[@realvivifromloona]

ikr

[@taichillyli1746]

Things are snappy on Windows 8 but the hotcorner and the lack of advance search are the only downsides.

[@WTEMedia]

the reason why the surface has the tutorial about the mouse is because there is a touchpad and keyboard accesory

[@LeorFlor]

You know that you can do exactly the same with Linux, you just need to upgrade Ubuntu 8.04 to a more recent release like 11.10 or superior. Terminal is no longer needed there and have some great software.

[@JohnEd_04]

"Isn't this the desktop?" She said that 2 times. XD

[@shanepiper]

Oh Computer Science at school thats nice. Thing is I do know a lot about computers too. I am an IT Manager who started out life on a ZX81, ZX Sepctrum, Amiga 500, 8088 MS Dos driven PC, programmed MPUs, Machine Coded 7 Seg displays, build websites, database administration, Windows (yawn), Mac (boring) and Linux (Fun), so yeah I guess I know a thing or two about computers as well, around 30 years experience here. Computer Science Degree done some years ago now. Good luck with yours. Windows SUX

[@purplehello98]

Jazzy's so cute!

[@msul78]

If your mom don't like the design, it's a pretty good indicator of how cool it is.

[@demianmuijs7759]

0:15-0:30 Diana is like, WTH is that!!!😂

[@Yapity111]

It's true, the Surface really needs a short introduction to all the gestures, but I felt the same way the first time I used an Apple touch product. Apple devices are so widespread that people really take it for granted that the "Intuitive" touch UI is only intuitive because you're used to it.

[@robitaill3]

windows 8.1 uses the desktop as the main area now; the start screen is used as a replacement of the start menu now

[@dominusinsularum5396]

David Robitaille Yeah, I use 8.1 and always get taken to the desktop as a default. I barely use the start screen.

[@TheMrSteinway]

Yes! Really looked forward to this :)

[@TheCheezburgerman]

I love how she wanted to zoom in with enthusiasm to open the file xD haha that would be fun

[@ijslandernl]

On November 3rd 8:59 (maybe even 9:59 or 10:59, because the time in a virtual environment is often messed up) it wasn't dark, but on March 26th it's already dark at 7:23. Winter is coming on the other side of the globe.

[@metro_ken]

The charms bar? You mean the hieroglyphics?

[@inlovewithi]

I saw this video many years ago, and it popped into my mind earlier today. Then completely out of my mind. Then I tonight completely random, I Googled Solaris to know what it was, and then the first video was from this channel.

[@evel766]

Windows 8 is not only for tablets, some PCs like all-in-ones with touchscreen displays run windows 8 perfectly. For non-touch devices IOBIT released start menu 8, which restores a windows 7 start menu.

[@doinsive2446]

Such a lonely day And it's mine The most loneliest day of my life Such a lonely day Should be banned It's a day that I can't stand The most loneliest day of my life The most loneliest day of my life Such a lonely day Shouldn't exist It's a day that I'll never miss Such a lonely day And it's mine The most loneliest day of my life And if you go, I wanna go with you And if you die, I wanna die with you Take your hand and walk away The most loneliest day of my life The most loneliest day of my life The most loneliest day of my life Life Such a lonely day And it's mine It's a day that I'm glad I survived

[@OsFirstTimer]

Never heard of it... can you apply a patch on the normal XP to update it to the awesome fast version?