Oshi No Ko 2x12: "Reunion" // Reaction and Discussion

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@SkyPanda52
@SkyPanda52 2 ай бұрын
In regards to the whole "soul-less children" line, I've seen others interpret that as stillborn children. If not for the God's intervention, then Ai would have given birth to stillborn (soul-less) twins. So, the God put Goro and Sarina's souls into otherwise empty vessels to become Aqua and Ruby. That's the head-cannon that I'm going with anyway hehe. Thanks for the great reactions and I can't wait to see how you guys will like the finale!
@ssjokg4952
@ssjokg4952 2 ай бұрын
Well, there is really no room for headcanon here. Human without a soul=dead. Which is extra horrible for Ai's case because 1) she put her hopes on her kids to find love And 2) every examination of the babies till her labour was fine, they were as healthy as they could be. Meaning she would have stillbirth during labour. That's pretty fucked up.
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
​@@ssjokg4952 This
@Halofreakanoid
@Halofreakanoid 2 ай бұрын
@@ssjokg4952 Especially in Japanese religions is the idea of a soul being part of the body and required for life at all.
@Knight4869-l9y
@Knight4869-l9y 2 ай бұрын
I had the exact same thought: at the moment of their birth, for whatever reason, AI’s children were dead, or better, we’re supposed to be dead, so this God took advantage of the situation and “implanted” Sarina and Goro’s souls into these “empty shells”
@mjaomjao2
@mjaomjao2 2 ай бұрын
Being reincarnated into a stillborn child is a common isekai trope so it's a fair assumtion to make.
@Egavans
@Egavans 2 ай бұрын
Aqua walks into the cave: "oh sweet you found my body." Ruby: "What?!" Aqua: "What?" Akane: "WHAT?"
@minecraftreports
@minecraftreports 2 ай бұрын
his skeleton: what??
@Shinigami00Azael
@Shinigami00Azael 2 ай бұрын
crow: what can I say except you're welcome
@julianr8544
@julianr8544 2 ай бұрын
@@Shinigami00Azael dang, now the song is gonna be stuck in my head.
@Muskaa2012
@Muskaa2012 2 ай бұрын
Akane must be the most confused since she doesnt know about the "reincarnated" part 😅
@benmatsiona5528
@benmatsiona5528 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂i get gigguk reference here
@ukmaxi
@ukmaxi 2 ай бұрын
In Japanese Shintoism, there is a god depicted as a three-legged crow that is supposedly the 'God of Guidance'. That may be the reason for the abundance of crows.
@HanabiraKage
@HanabiraKage 2 ай бұрын
The Yatagarasu (Eight-span Crow, also the Three-legged Crow). A messenger of the gods, and itself a divinity that provides guidance to mortals.
@wisefelipe
@wisefelipe 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, kinda like a Japanese Hermes, to an extent
@Kyla8132
@Kyla8132 2 ай бұрын
16:25 those are 2 different Gods btw. Amaterasu's the god who holed up in the cave. Ame no Uzume no Mikoto's the one who partied outside the cave to drag Amaterasu out of there. I think I learned about it from a manga before and also 2 vocaloid songs (Ima Chotto Dake Wadai no Kamisama) and (Kami no Manimani).
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
Thank you because I forgotten the God's name who led Amaterasu out.
@aohige
@aohige 2 ай бұрын
Specifically, strip-danced 😂 Hence she is often referred to as the first stripper of Japan lol
@IZEASGT
@IZEASGT 2 ай бұрын
There’s an Urusei Yatsura chapter where the events of the myth repeat, only this time, everyone’s having so much fun that when Amaterasu decides to come out, they shove her back in so the party can keep going.
@amarillo-ic2fu
@amarillo-ic2fu 2 ай бұрын
I liked that this episode gave more context about Goro's life. Back when watching episode 1 i thought Aqua being happy and even feeling grateful to Ryosuke for killing him to be a wild statement considering it looked like he led a decent life with a steady job. I theorized that maybe he didn't want to be a doctor but ultimately chalked it up to your regular anime humor so it was nice to be proven wrong, it makes his reincarnation all the more tragic now that he was gonna be able to live as he wanted but God was like "What if you went through the same fate again but you actually saw your mom die this time lol." and put him in what i'd argue is a worse place than his previous life was.
@aqrxv
@aqrxv 2 ай бұрын
Didn't baby Ruby and baby Aqua claim Ai had been chosen by the goddess of entertainment when they were running their scam in episode 1 (and were servants of Amaterasu)? I guess it makes sense as both were from that town.
@Rimuru_Tempest_-
@Rimuru_Tempest_- 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but Ruby claimed to be an incarnation of Amaterasu, which is quite something if you know a specific part of Amaterasu's story.
@Richardwho-vv5bh
@Richardwho-vv5bh 2 ай бұрын
​@@Rimuru_Tempest_-yeah, amaterasu was from alabama.
@CheesyDale
@CheesyDale 2 ай бұрын
@@Rimuru_Tempest_- 30 years age gap doesn't stop Ruby sooo
@neodeltai
@neodeltai 2 ай бұрын
Anna and Ben reacting to the Kana/Ai scene at 10:28 is exactly how I feel watching this show. I enjoy getting emotionally invested in characters, but I also get that it's fiction. However, scenes involving Ai just hit so much harder than I'm prepared for.
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
"Why show Ruby this body? What does this do narratively?" This line... remember this question. You just made my day saying this question.... oooh boy I am hyped for the reaction.
@yao106
@yao106 2 ай бұрын
Ikr, that is why I like to watch their reaction.
@ssypherzi
@ssypherzi 2 ай бұрын
As an anime only I’m curious as to why you said it. And if the question is that important, then wow…they really are the best reaction channel
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
@ssypherzi Wait til Sunday.... I been waiting for a long time for something special to be animated and from the leaks... more than what I expected is going to happen.
@ssypherzi
@ssypherzi 2 ай бұрын
@@FiragaJJC alright I’ll take your word for it. Man I’m so hyped 🔥🔥
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
@ssypherzi But if you're extremely curious... spoilers below. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ruby going to get Black Starrigan and seeking revenge on their father. Leading to the Dark Ruby Saga.
@beyondviolet
@beyondviolet 2 ай бұрын
finally, people are gonna find out what trauma Ruby looks like
@ssjokg4952
@ssjokg4952 2 ай бұрын
Well just a taste.
@NotInfiniteAmmo
@NotInfiniteAmmo 2 ай бұрын
Ruby: Let’s get married! Bro: 💀🥼
@CheesyDale
@CheesyDale 2 ай бұрын
Ruby: I want to see Sensei 🐦‍⬛: bet
@st.lucient4755
@st.lucient4755 2 ай бұрын
Ruby : We're not really related (on a soul level) so it's okay ! Them : ✨👄✨
@Muskaa2012
@Muskaa2012 2 ай бұрын
Ruby: **Finds out that Aqua is Goro** Ruby: MARRY ME ONII-CHAN 😭 well I do NOT want that happening 💀💀
@VejmR
@VejmR 2 ай бұрын
Ohhh 😂​@@Muskaa2012
@Sujal-j5o
@Sujal-j5o 2 ай бұрын
for those who don't know next episode will come on sunday - 6th
@MJCDragen
@MJCDragen 2 ай бұрын
Glad to see you back. Be well! :D
@Vibin_hard
@Vibin_hard 2 ай бұрын
The last part of this episode hit me like a brick.
@zairaner1489
@zairaner1489 2 ай бұрын
Oh no they missed the ed changing at the end. Thats why you never skips ed!
@NozomuYume
@NozomuYume 2 ай бұрын
The age of 16 isn't some random number that Goro picked, it was the age of marriage in Japan at the time the story was written. i.e. "I'll consider it when it's actually legal to marry you.", though it's clear he was mostly saying this as a kind gesture since they both knew she wasn't going to live that long. (Though this year under intense pressure from the United States threatening the loss of favorable trade agreements, Japan raised the age to 18).
@morrigannibairseach1211
@morrigannibairseach1211 2 ай бұрын
There is nothing in the story to suggest that's why he gave that answer and is directly contradicted by the canon light novel Spica. Goro did not know Sarina was terminal. She forbade staff from telling him. They only told him she was dying right before she died. When he said he'd consider it he was being genuine.
@berketozlu
@berketozlu 2 ай бұрын
@@morrigannibairseach1211 ?
@morrigannibairseach1211
@morrigannibairseach1211 2 ай бұрын
@@berketozlu ?
@SilvyReacts
@SilvyReacts 2 ай бұрын
@@morrigannibairseach1211 You need to reread because what you said isn't true. He was a doctor, he obviously knew she was terminally ill with cancer and had access to her medical records. This idea that you are trying to push that he didn't know is absurd and makes literally zero sense. The only thing he didn't know was that her condition was getting worse for about 2 weeks prior to her death because her getting worse is what was being kept from him. He was surprised by her sudden deuteriation because she seemed fine just earlier that day, and that is when he was told she wasn't actually feeling fine and she was just pretending to be fine because of how much she valued her time together with him. Also, what he said to Serina was pretty clearly just him trying to avoid giving her an answer as a way to avoid hurting her. At no point in the story does it ever seem like he "loved" Serina in that way. And to be frank, I would even argue Serina's feelings for him probably isn't even that kind of love either... it's more along the lines that he was all she had... and in such circumstances those feelings can be easily mistaken for love (kinda like puppy love). She just never had a chance to grow out of it or really approach those feelings in a normal way.
@morrigannibairseach1211
@morrigannibairseach1211 2 ай бұрын
@@SilvyReacts No. You need to reread OnK and read Spica. He was an OB/GYN *resident* and she was not his patient. She had terminal brain cancer. He was a pussy doctor. There is no overlap there. He hung out with her to avoid work and being lectured by his boss. She explicitly forbade telling him she was terminal. He believed she would get better. In Spica Goro explicitly states that he never would have given her false hope. He was being genuine. Before he met her he was a playboy. He quit after meeting her. When she died he got absolutely wasted at a bar, an old fling tried to pick him up saying she thought he had gotten an actual girlfriend and is now back heartbroken because he got dumped. Then her bf showed up and started beating him to death because he didn't care because he didn't want to live without her. It took divine intervention to save him. Then Goro projected Sarina onto Ai to cope. Goro then tacitly refused to deny he would date Ai given the chance. Aqua then describes her as his ideal woman. The Season 2 OP is Aqua pov singing about Sarina/Ruby. She is his fated love. Because the trope being employed here is a classical Japanese literary trope of Star Crossed Lovers Reincarnated as Twins. They were soul mates who were brought together at a time where they could not be together. It's hilarious that people will put down Sarina/Ruby's love for Goro but won't say a word about Kana who met Aqua when she was 5 under the false pretense that he was a normal 4 yr old and not a reincarnated 30 yr old playboy gynecologist. Or Akane savior worshipping him. Nevermind that Ruby held onto those feelings for near 2 decades in a life completely separated from him with all the chances to find someone else. It's also funny how "Gorqua clearly doesn't love her" yet he never manipulates her to his benefit whereas with Kana and Akane he constantly manipulates towards his own ends.
@sirmcdust5572
@sirmcdust5572 2 ай бұрын
Soulless usually means still born in these cases.
@smallpiper2
@smallpiper2 2 ай бұрын
This is how i read it in the manga. Always assumed the goddess chose two people without moms and gifted them to a mother about to have stillborn children.
@effortlessfury
@effortlessfury 2 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's ever explained, but my first thought regarding the body was that it was hidden by the murderer rather than the god.
@Eviltwin1
@Eviltwin1 2 ай бұрын
Not sure how likely that is. As i dont think the Dr's murder was planned, since it looked like the stalker was just asking questions to him about AI. And if killing him was more of an "In the moment" decision as he was stood by a cliff, then he wouldn't have had a place to stash the body planned since in that case it wouldn't be premeditated so he wouldn't have the need to prepare a place to Stache a body. So then the question would become of all places at night how would you stumble upon a random shrine with a small cave behind it, idk. Anything is possible i guess but it just doesnt feel likely.
@SenseofNoneYT
@SenseofNoneYT 2 ай бұрын
I feel like a murderer is more likely to bury the body than just drag it into a cave like that.
@AStixMatism
@AStixMatism 2 ай бұрын
light manga spoiler (it doesn't really matter that much in the overall plot of things anyway) But it was in fact the murderer who hid the body and not the god
@jjhh320
@jjhh320 2 ай бұрын
Father could have done it too, either him or the stalker. And them doing so might also be something the god wants or has influenced to happen for some reason we don't know. Not exclusionary.
@IZEASGT
@IZEASGT 2 ай бұрын
I like how many people react to the bit about Gorou not getting over his mother’s death with “oh, so that motivated him to become an OB/GYN!” - and then seconds later, we see his grandmother making the same assumption, and find out that THAT was why he did. Yielding to her expectation and taking the path of least resistance.
@SmthPositive_
@SmthPositive_ 2 ай бұрын
It’s so oshi no kover 😔 Also feel better soon you guys 🥹🙏🏽
@HungPham-pz7fy
@HungPham-pz7fy 2 ай бұрын
Re: Soulless Children. I think it's implying that the twins were 'supposed' to be stillborns but the goddess interfered. I would not mind if the story didn't touch on the morality on reincarnation but I am glad it provide a good justification while hinting at the bigger picture lesson/motive for divine intervention. I don't know much about the Japanese pantheon but it's would be refreshing to see how they are portrayed here.
@its.araragi
@its.araragi 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same too and it makes a lot of sense. Ai wanted to be able to love and by extention, to have children, Sara wanted to be healthy and be with Sensei and Gorou wanted a reason to live. The god basically granted their wishes in a twisted way: Ai is finally able to love but dies in the process, Ruby is healthy and close to Sensei but they are now siblings and Aqua has a reason to live, but it's revenge. Either that or someone/something interfered with the gods.
@yjk92
@yjk92 2 ай бұрын
Polytheism is very apparent just by the word "the god of entertainment" so she can say "the god(s)," and not be refering to herself in 3rd person. If she's a god, that is. In other words, the subtitles could've easily said "the gods are surely kind" or "the god(not me but a different one, I'm a god too) is surely kind."
@aohige
@aohige 2 ай бұрын
There's no ambiguity of singular or plural in terms of "who is/are the entertainment god", because we know the mythology referenced. Amenouzume is the goddess of entertainment. Amaterasu is the prime goddess who hid in the cave. Amenouzume is the one that strip-danced in front of the cave to lure her out.
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
Oh man can't wait fornthe final episode. Been waiting for this for a long time. Thanks Crow Girl.
@aohige
@aohige 2 ай бұрын
You are confusing multiple entities. The Goddess that hid in the cave was Amaterasu, the prime goddess of Japanese mythology, not the goddess of entertainment. The entertainment goddess is Amenouzume, who strip-danced in front of the cave to lure out Amatereasu out of her hikkikomori lol. This is a pretty famous Japanese folklore.
@MJCDragen
@MJCDragen 2 ай бұрын
As a reminder, Ruby had already expressed her love for Goro-sensei and her chance of being found by him as a popular idol in a sleepover conversation with Kana the night before their big show back in season 1.
@CheesyDale
@CheesyDale 2 ай бұрын
I love how both Goro and Sarina not only deserved to be reincarnated because they died unfairly, they both also deserved to get a second chance to have a mother because both their mothers are absent in the previous life
@kimitsudesu
@kimitsudesu 2 ай бұрын
Watching certain parts of the discussion and knowing what comes later in the manga makes me absolutely glee in anticipation for season 4 or so.
@abdallahcenation
@abdallahcenation 2 ай бұрын
Great! Final ep soon
@ledonkly
@ledonkly 2 ай бұрын
At the end of the ED, you also see that the keychain the crow picks up is the Ai keychain
@gallo3734
@gallo3734 2 ай бұрын
I love this show so mush.
@IcarusDrowning-gz8se
@IcarusDrowning-gz8se 2 ай бұрын
Regarding signs of malice in the death of the doctor: even if the examination of the bones only suggests the doctor fell from a height which caused injury severe enough to kill him, which they undoubtedly will, the fact the skeleton is found in a cave, which is impossible to be the place the landed from his fall, is enough to show the body was moved after death. The absence of predation marks on the bones indicates the body was not dragged into the cave by animals. The extent of the injury we already know means he was unable to drag himself into the cave. Malice is certain. Can't wait for your reaction to the finale! I hope it's coming soon. It's been 12 days since you posted this already.
@loiseauxmort9568
@loiseauxmort9568 2 ай бұрын
0:13 "I'm ready" "I am also really ready", they were, in fact, not ready for this episode. No one was, to be fair.
@2stepbehind1stepaway
@2stepbehind1stepaway 2 ай бұрын
When it's mentioned Ai's children are soulless the way I interpret it is that if Gorou and Sarina's souls didn't occupy the twins' body Ai's child would have died at birth. The body was moved by the stalker. If you go back and watch the very first episode you will notice a snap for a split second where it seems the stalker was moving the body.
@aruse_gff
@aruse_gff 2 ай бұрын
I see a lot of foreshadowing in Aqua in the first episode of the first season. ”I think Ruby will bounce back. After spending a few years with her, I've learned that she's pure, for better or worse.” How can that be true for a girl who loved Ai so much?
@angelsambition2179
@angelsambition2179 2 ай бұрын
As far as soulless children goes I believe Ai would’ve had still born children if they weren’t reincarnated which is pretty dark for Ai, wanting to love something just for it die along with your dream and possibly still for her to die from a fan, truly tragic
@smallpiper2
@smallpiper2 2 ай бұрын
And the ED gets it's context. Keychain dropping in to shatter her world.
@akano9456
@akano9456 2 ай бұрын
There's a lot of nods to Japanese/Shinto mythology in this episode. If you're not familiar, every shrine in Japan is dedicated to a god, which is housed in the shrine. Every god has specific things that people pray to them for; good health, wisdom, prosperity, etc. The specific shrine they mention housing the goddess of entertainment, then, is where people would pray for success in entertainment. There are a _whole_ lot of shrines in Japan by the way. But I noticed you mixed up the stories in your conversation. They mention an ancient story of one of the great goddesses of Japanese mythology; Amaterasu, goddess of the sun. In the story, Amaterasu hid away in a cave and refused to come out. But she was lured out by the sound of the other gods celebrating right outside the cave. Amaterasu is not the goddess of entertainment. Great discussion as always!
@VladdViever
@VladdViever 2 ай бұрын
My assumption about the soulless children line was to imply that they were going to be still births
@aohige
@aohige 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering what happened to yall lol I hope you're feeling better!
@saotiago
@saotiago 2 ай бұрын
Akane's complete non-reaction to seeing a dead body is so funny to me. I am sure she is a great actress and all but tbh girl should be a detective.
@thaisbenicio837
@thaisbenicio837 2 ай бұрын
Akane should be batman
@saotiago
@saotiago 2 ай бұрын
@@thaisbenicio837 100%
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
Amaterasu (Sun god) fled to the cave after her brother, Susuanoo (wind god) did something (I forgot) to her. Because of this the other gods trying to get her out held a party outside the cave where she locked herself in... curious she peeked out to see and another god held a mirror to her face to show how she looked, which in turn walked out the cave. Amaterasu has another brother Tsukoyomi (moon god), sometimes explicted as woman. Crows represent death in many lores abd myth.
@CeedFX
@CeedFX 2 ай бұрын
In Japanese culture, the crow is a revered and symbolic bird, often associated with divine messengers and omens. The crow’s significance is rooted in its connection to the sun, heaven, and the gods.
@hajamariole3586
@hajamariole3586 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely fucked to call the episode reunion
@ZenoDLC
@ZenoDLC 2 ай бұрын
Aqua gets a break, so Ruby holds the darkness torch now
@kaleokamekona2250
@kaleokamekona2250 2 ай бұрын
It’s interesting because we saw Aqua lose his star in his eye and now we saw Ruby lose hers
@gallo3734
@gallo3734 2 ай бұрын
3:11 Akane😂
@IcarusDrowning-gz8se
@IcarusDrowning-gz8se 2 ай бұрын
Amaraterasu is generally considered to be the chief deity of Shinto. Her full name simply translates as The Great Goddess Who Shines in Heaven. She is one of the “Three Precious Children” of the creator God, Izanagi. One thing in particular she is associated with, that is of relevance to the series, is the illumination of hidden or secret things. Shining light in the darkness, in all the ways that can be interpreted, is one sphere of her operation. She is NOT the goddess of entertainment 😂 There are many deities in the Shinto tradition. One deity saying, “God is…” wouldn’t be at all unusual. Remember it’s a translation into English so your ideas of godhood are being evoked by the language but they aren’t relevant to the system referenced by the original language. It’s very misleading in fact. I think it has been subtitled specifically for an American audience. Crows are associated with death in a multitude of religious and folkloric systems throughout the world and birds in general are thought of as messengers between “heaven” and Earth. PS… as for moving the doctor’s body, the killer was shown standing over him as he died. I always assumed the killer hid the body. It’s also not unheard of for a human skeleton to be found intact in an open cave without having been buried, even decades after their death.
@mphoportia7962
@mphoportia7962 2 ай бұрын
I think she is the goodness that they were talking about. The Grey haired girl.
@FrankBryant-xo3dh
@FrankBryant-xo3dh 2 ай бұрын
Snow White and the red hair
@Knight4869-l9y
@Knight4869-l9y 2 ай бұрын
As soon as they revealed that, moments before dying, Sarina gave Goro-sensei her most “prized possession”, for him to treasure it for his whole life, as if it was her, I was like… “Please don’t tell me that Ruby is going to find the doctor’s body and will be able to identify it thanks to Ai’s keychain… Please, anything but that… Don’t tell me that I will witness the moment her soul brakes and the light abandons her eyes… Please don’t tell me that… And here we are, ladies and gentlemen… Poor little Ruby… I just want to hug her…😭😭😭💔💔💔💔 P.S. “Reunion”, really!?!?!? AH AH AH, very very funny Aka Akasaka, you are a HUGE A*SHOLE🤬
@GGABueno
@GGABueno 2 ай бұрын
They were thinking that episode 11 was the last episode. Surprise trauma!!
@ねるさん-c1k
@ねるさん-c1k 2 ай бұрын
Did you guys see that the last picture at the end of the ending was changed?
@MxMoondoggie
@MxMoondoggie 2 ай бұрын
She's probably not God. In Shinto mythology there is a guide who takes the form of a crow and guides humans to the will of the Gods, they might be some sort of divine being in various interpretations. The fun thing about anime is it makes you look up everything from Shinto and Gnosticism to philosophy because otaku love including themes from these things in their stories lol. The fact she's dressed in black and her hair and eyelashes are very feather like is likely intentional as she's representing a crow that is watching over them. The crow appears all over the anime in the background of scenes so she's always been there in that form. She could probably appear as a human girl if she wants to or that's maybe her true form. From the way she speaks she's contemplating why this is God's will and not really talking about herself, probably because she knew they'd return and she was going to guide Ruby. Oh and I'd imagine the body was moved and hidden by the killer to avoid being caught as he killed the doctor in a panic after being questioned and chased. That shrine looks possibly abandoned so it'd make a good hiding place being in the middle of nowhere. We know at least the stalker had help so he could have had help in hiding that body. With Ai he was caught off guard by her words and freaked out so he never had a chance to cover his tracks.
@redmustangredmustang
@redmustangredmustang 2 ай бұрын
Last episode will be on Sunday. Also manga readers new chapter in 3 weeks
@pau0002
@pau0002 2 ай бұрын
I love seeing how several reactors believe, or have the theory, that Akane will somehow be able to figure out the whole reincarnation thing 😂. As smart as Akane is, she is also a person who is guided by logic and needs a certain amount of information before coming to a conclusion. And reincarnation and the other supernatural elements of this story certainly don't fall into the category of “logic”. Still, the funny thing is that we, the audience, aren't the only ones with this blind faith in Akane, as we will see in the next episode.
@IZEASGT
@IZEASGT 2 ай бұрын
It’s reasonable for her to deduce that the body is Ruby’s sensei, and to learn that he was Gorou Amamiya. And it’d be very easy for her to learn when he disappeared, approximately if not an exact date. It’s not like that’s legally protected information. Imagine you’re Akane, and have the above knowledge, and ask yourself this: When did the Hoshino twins know Amamiya?
@pau0002
@pau0002 2 ай бұрын
@@IZEASGT Actually, I was referring to Akane discovering that Aqua is the reincarnation of Goro and Ruby of Sarina. That's far from a logical conclusion she could come to. But now that you mention it, Akane also doesn't have enough information to figure out that the corpse she and Ruby found is the same person Aqua was looking for. For starters, Aqua never tells her that this person is already dead, instead, he asks Akane if it would be possible to find the remains of a pet.
@IZEASGT
@IZEASGT 2 ай бұрын
@@pau0002 It’s true she doesn’t know this doctor’s name yet, but in the next few hours, it’d be entirely plausible for her to learn it, either from Ruby or from the police. Same for when he disappeared. That’s the scenario I’m thinking of, where she learns those facts. How does she answer “when did they know him” under that scenario?
@yaoya808-54
@yaoya808-54 2 ай бұрын
ここからが推しの子です。ルビーがどう思うかを考えれば多少の展開の予想はできると思います。ちなみに原作はもうすぐ終わりますよ。
@redmustangredmustang
@redmustangredmustang 2 ай бұрын
1. Crow girl is a real person
@morrigannibairseach1211
@morrigannibairseach1211 2 ай бұрын
Goro is *not* haunting Aqua. They are literally the same person. There is no Aqua. The body Goro was put in was soulless and would have died at birth if not given the soul of Goro. Aqua repeatedly refers to Aqua in third person and himself as I. Because he is Goro and Aqua is a mask that he wears. Just the symbolism in the opening. Goro is used artistically to depict his own sense of guilt. Because that is who he truly is. Aqua even identifies Guilt Goro as himself. He is guilting himself. Imagine being reincarnated and not seeing who you used to be in the mirror. Having to hide who you actually are. Having to pretend to be a normal child. This is what Aqua meant when he said "The line between myself and Aqua is disappearing." Because his mask is finally growing into who he truly is.
@IZEASGT
@IZEASGT 2 ай бұрын
He’s been referring to Gorou in the third person for a while. His monologue to Akane in this episode is most obvious, but there’s also his “aitsu” at the end of S2E5, just before the play starts. Aqua and Gorou aren’t EXACTLY different people, but they aren’t exactly the same person either, and presently our hero identifies more with the former identity.
@morrigannibairseach1211
@morrigannibairseach1211 2 ай бұрын
@@IZEASGT That's a massive cope. "His monologue to Akane, a person who doesn't know he is reincarnated, talking about his past life in the third person means that he does not identify with him." Aqua in TB arc literally identifies Goro as himself. In the dates episode it is emphasized that he is effectively an old man. That old man being Goro. "The things you say and do remind me of a rich businessman in his 30s." The literal anime pointing an arrow at him and noting that he is Goro a 30ish yr old doctor. "You must have been winning the hearts of many girl like this." "Not for the past decades and change change at least." Image of idol otaku Goro Akane "Say cheese? You sound like an old man" "Do kids not say that these days?" There is no one in there besides Goro. The only differences in who they are is time as with any normal person. It'd be like claiming that your teen self and adult self are different people.
@bwSiegrain
@bwSiegrain 2 ай бұрын
0:00 OMG you guys are adorable!! Marry right now!
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
One thing I want to point out in many people keep mistaken (not y'all) Gorou didn't see Sarina in a romantic way. He was trying to encourage her because she was a dying patient. Because she was dying from cancer, Gorounwas trying to encourage her to gove her as much time as needed as patient who lost their will die faster than those who been givin encouragement. Sarina didn't have much more to live, but Gorou's attempt extended her life as much as it could.... especially Sarina's circumstances (which will not be explained this season).
@morrigannibairseach1211
@morrigannibairseach1211 2 ай бұрын
Read Spica. Goro literally didnt know she was dying until they told him. Sarina had forbade them before that. He explicitly says he never would have given her false hope. That it would have been cruel. He was being genuine with her. Also he stopped being a playboy when he met her. Which is why idol otaku Goro was listed under "I haven't been a playboy for a decade and change."
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
@@morrigannibairseach1211 one correction... No where in spica mentioned him being a playboy but he was depressed after Sarina's death and started drinking until his old friend came and her boyfriend beat him up and gotten Sarina's last letter.
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
@@morrigannibairseach1211 nvm found it... Yeah he was a playboy. But I think that change for Sarina because he sees her as a daughter to take care of, despite not being biological.
@morrigannibairseach1211
@morrigannibairseach1211 2 ай бұрын
@@FiragaJJC The person he met at the bar was not a friend. She was a past fling. She also assumes that Goro had disappeared for 6 months because he had gotten a girlfriend and is now back and heartbroken because he was dumped. There is a reason that was put there. Also if he saw Sarina as a daughter there was no reason for him to stop being a playboy or dating at all. There is a classical Japanese literary trope and spiritual belief that often serves as a basis for love songs: Star Crossed Lovers Reincarnated as Twins. Goro and Sarina were soul mates. They were fated to love one another. However since she was terminally ill the red string of fate brought them together too early. So they couldn't be together romantically. Which made them star crossed. If she'd been healthy and met him at 16-18 he would have been 28-30 and he would have married her. The use of tropes in media helps to give context and subtext to it so that not every detail needs to be explained. The Season 2 OP is Aqua singing about Ruby/Sarina. He can't live without her. Its why he dying was part of his revenge plan. Ai was his coping mechanism because he was given a divine directive. He was projecting Sarina onto her. Reminder that Aqua described Ai as his ideal woman and he thought Sarina shone more brightly than Ai. He also tacitly refused to deny that he would date Ai.
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
@morrigannibairseach1211 Actually yes, seeing someone as a daughter can stop some men from being playboy. Its a psychology thing. It's not all me. But plenty of men stop doing that when their father instincts kicks in.
@Emilis2023
@Emilis2023 2 ай бұрын
"I'm not sure if she's tangible." Having read the manga, this gave me a chuckle.
@tana1464
@tana1464 2 ай бұрын
That statement will aged nicely
@fatrown3
@fatrown3 2 ай бұрын
Being sick is not sick. It's not even rad. It's poor :( not looking forward to my upcoming winter cold
@ntsuka4568
@ntsuka4568 2 ай бұрын
14:13 It's not a crow, you idiot! It's Tsukuyomi
@thibault16000
@thibault16000 2 ай бұрын
Finaly dark Ruby coming and the best et Dark arc
@lenOwOo
@lenOwOo 2 ай бұрын
It's time for ruby to get her mangekyou Sharingan
@IinkcIick
@IinkcIick 2 ай бұрын
The anime butchered the GoroSari scene. In the manga, it is MUCH MORE emotional. Sarina has touched his right face and Gorou cried when Sarina died. Also, Ruby cried when she discovered his body.
@Richardwho-vv5bh
@Richardwho-vv5bh 2 ай бұрын
Maybe the Ruby part would be in the finale. As for the first part, that would be showed probably in the crow girl flashback.
@Eee-v3y
@Eee-v3y 2 ай бұрын
For thou I ask, upon these sea of chatters they ask, could thou bestow upon the mightiest of meek, thou reaction to Jojo Bizarre Adventures?
@pzarrow9526
@pzarrow9526 2 ай бұрын
Wow, not even a single post to reassure your fans on what's going on. Your socials are dead since 2022-2023 and nothing on patreon or even YT community post. Can't believe Boldcast managed to catch up faster than Autosave.
@pzarrow9526
@pzarrow9526 2 ай бұрын
New and final episode is up. I hope you guys aren't late.
@FiragaJJC
@FiragaJJC 2 ай бұрын
Amaterasu (Sun god) fled to the cave after her brother, Susuanoo (wind god) did something (I forgot) to her. Because of this the other gods trying to get her out held a party outside the cave where she locked herself in... curious she peeked out to see and another god held a mirror to her face to show how she looked, which in turn walked out the cave. Amaterasu has another brother Tsukoyomi (moon god), sometimes explicted as woman. Crows represent death in many lores abd myth.
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