Oshi no Ko's Absolute Failure of an Ending NEEDS TO BE STUDIED

[@Leafmyst]

I just needed to put my thoughts out there and part ways with this manga cuz its been honestly eating me up. If you agree or disagree lemme know If yall wanna cope and read a better alternative ending check out this fanart made by @_marillust_ on twitter: www.tumblr.com/buscaminas/768797865104556032/comic-a-bouquet-of-happiness-for?source=share

[@RKNancy]

I haven't watched the video but I am quite unwilling to read anything from Akasaka ever again. There's no guarantee he'll not lose interest in his new story halfway through, yet again.

[@Leafmyst]

@@RKNancy Honestly yeah if you dont wanna get your time wasted just stay away from his works. He has absolute no respect to the readers and supporters of his work and it seems to be a reoccurring theme

[@Novaurawr]

Hey this is rly random but js a question is this vid genuinely ur first vid? Tbh after watching i checked ur channel and im surprised this is ur first and only vid bc tbh i think its better than expected for a first vid 👍 also good luck with this channel man u js earned a new sub 👌

[@Leafmyst]

@@Novaurawr Yea its my first vid here. I was just genuinely disappointed with the ending that I went out of my way to make this whole video

[@Novaurawr]

@ damn when the ending u create is so disappointing it inspires ur fandom to start being youtubers js to talk abt it 😭

[@oneguy9349]

"so like, the main dude die, everyone was really sad, but they get over it tho, because they are the Oshi no Ko"

[@Leafmyst]

truly an oshi no ko moment 💀

[@fangwu7576]

ngl seeing a comment above explaining an alternate translation of the title, unironically this fits

[@hendrysuawa]

"this is truly our Oshi no Ko" PEAK

[@kaelell4697]

✍️🔥🔥🔥

[@Khn_2102]

Say that again

[@rainx7078]

You know its bad when the entire fandom is upset, and that sort of unity is...odd

[@Leafmyst]

When an entire fandom unites you know you did something extremely bad or extremely good.

[@omni_awareness67]

Honestly Aqua was so dumb like his biggest reason for self-destruction is to avoid becoming a murderer, as it would tarnish Ruby’s reputation. Yet in the end, Ruby gains fame from having a murderer father and a murdered brother. So why not just shove Hikaru off the cliff and let Ruby have a murderer brother and a murdered father instead? What’s the difference? This logic is like saying, “I, Aqua, don’t kill women or children, when clearly neither your wife is a child, nor your son is a woman". At least that way, Ruby could visit him in prison instead of being stuck now, looking like she’s lost her mind. And i'm sure if Aqua just straight up stab Hikaru he would gain sympathy from public due to Hikaru reputation being exposed by Nino

[@Leafmyst]

@@omni_awareness67 Exactly Ruby would’ve much preferred having Aqua alive and being framed as a murderer rather than him dying it’s so stupid. His reason is stupid as fuck and jumping off a cliff with Hikaru was stupid af

[@williemherbert1456]

Simple, he's in subtlety shown to already feel tired living in such a laser-focused purpose of exacting revenge against their father that has ties to murder of him in his past life, as well on the idol Ai that is also his mother in his reincarnated life, while trying to endanger Ruby in the process amidst the crossfire.

[@liben5052]

​@williemherbert1456 to boot, Aqua was a doctor, he had this murder hunt but all throughout oshi no ko you see how he cares about the lives around him, and how his main purpose for hunting down their father anyways was because he was a threat to Ruby's life. And the exhaustion is a good point, bro lived two life times. He was a middle aged man in his first and didn't have dreams of being an entertainer. He was just a protector from beginning to end, and it's not like he knew the consequences before he made the decision. Lastly, ruby's father being a murderer doesn't affect her so much when she had 0 known contact with him, but she lived her whole life with her brother. It's not fair, but society would criticize her for "not seeing the signs" or having a "completely deranged family" if half of the members of her immediately family were murderers

[@phobics9498]

​@@liben5052 His purpose has "always" been that? What are you talking about? His main purpose for hunting down his father has never until the very end been to protect anyone. It was pure hate. Did you not watch the ending of the prologue? Did that look like the gaze of someone out on a quest of heroic sacrifice? Hell no. The show and manga literally never paints Aqua in a good light. If you seriously believe this I feel like you missed the entire point. Hikaru being a potential threat was revealed incredibly late for Aqua. The ending just deletes his entire moral dilemma of kill or not to kill by ensuring he has a rational reason to kill his father. The entire story turns from "man struggles with his purpose in life" to "man waits for information to be revealed which enables him to see his moral dilemma was actually very simple!". I felt like the manga was going a bit off after the dark ruby arc but I feel like Hikaru being introduced by killing someone should have signalled it would end like this. I can see Aqua's logic in why he did what he did. I think the fault lays on the story for making that decision the logical one. It's like the ending bails out Aqua from having to make a hard decision...

[@Moocow2003]

​@@williemherbert1456 then he can get a different job.. he's clearly smart enough to cut it as a heart surgeon

[@RKNancy]

This story made me realise that Akasaka hates girls like Shijou Maki and Arima Kana. Girls who are hopelessly in love and pine after a single boy. Like damn, is it wrong for a girl to be in love? Why the heck Aka creates these girls, only to give them unhappy endings.

[@Leafmyst]

Aka just has a habit of having these characters that eventually lead to an unhappy ending its a normal thing for him I guess. I still hate how he chooses to abandon these plotlines so nonchalantly

[@yakumoyukari4405]

Akane > Kana

[@RKNancy]

​@@yakumoyukari4405 after that ending, neither choice is better. Akane's emotions died altogether, even though she's an actress. The depression of not being able to save Aqua was real for her. And Kana was the story's punching bag, always getting the wrong ending, despite having everyone rooting for her success.

[@leavemealone802]

Wait, he wrote Kaguya-sama, and no girl suffered like this

[@Leafmyst]

@@leavemealone802 In the manga these hopelessly in love characters are the ones who always get the short end of the stick

[@TenebraeXVII]

So if you break up the kanji for "oshi" you get characters that can be read as "suishi" which means "death by drowning". the brackets, which give an effect of boxing in the title, are formally part of the title as presented. This means that the title can be read as [suishi no ko] which means "The Child Who Died by Drowning" which is inside of a box (coffin).

[@AUCreatoer]

Actually clever word play wow

[@Leafmyst]

I get all of the planning but the execution feels horrible. It feels like Aka Akasaka had planned all of this and got bored during the way. Also that is a great way to foreshadow the story with its name thank you for letting me know!

[@karayura10]

​@@LeafmystIB : Instant Bullet all over again where Aka lost along the way and delivered atrocious ending

[@hijous]

I mean, it's clever doesn't mean the manga is good

[@Nockgun]

i misread it as sushi no ko💀

[@idiom2805]

author gets bored, butchers endings, moves on to next project and repeats. Dude has that adhd bad.

[@Leafmyst]

@@idiom2805 bro has the attention span of gen alpha kids

[@jayemover_16]

Right, like get this dude some meds. He definitely needs them. I'm like this with my creative works because of my ADHD, I'm at least not obligated to finish them since they're private.

[@masterofinfinity479]

i got ADHD, and i wouldn't give them a bad ending, instead i'd go on hiatus

[@dagrumble]

Yeah Sukuna may be a fraud but that makes sense in character for him, crow girl has NO EXCUSES.

[@eggmin8967]

Ur kidding me. he was beating the everliving shite out of everyone until quite literally they managed to start cracking his plot armour

[@thomasdeen2099]

​@@eggmin8967cuz yuji made an entire technique specifically to hard counter and hurt sukuna cuz of his binding vows to target the boundary of souls, which makes sukuna's greedy desire to return in the future by reincarnation bite him in the ass.

[@syzler8664]

@@thomasdeen2099 ??? imagine not getting Sukuna. He wasn't greedy to return in the future, he deadass got bored of winning in his era and went afk to fight new people

[@MonsterEnjoyer69]

Tbh it felt like tragedy for the sake of tragedy with not enough thought put into it. Considering the word play in the title that another commenter pointed out, I feel like Aka was dead set on this tragic ending, but didn't plan out the story enough and didn't know how to properly get there in a way that made since or was satisfying. Being rushed and having deadlines to meet definitely also played a roll in it.

[@Leafmyst]

@@MonsterEnjoyer69 That’s pretty much how it felt like. He probably planned the ending from the start but didn’t plan to reach that point

[@lostnemesis]

This is a surprisingly common thing for manga. Prison school had something similar where the author just went "I don't like that this is popular and I don't like people who like this." and then decided to end it poorly only then to come crawling back to it because in his case the only successful work he had was prison School, That's the annoying thing about this guy is it isn't like the only successful thing he has is Oshi no ko so he's talented enough to make more but it's like there's a genuine disdain for his own work. And because of how consistent the ending problems are you can't put that on "he just doesn't know how to end a story." For me personally I did not enjoy the ending because yes it was rushed. And it's not a satisfying ending in any way, it would be one thing if it wrapped everything up that needed to be wrapped up all the strings that were left hanging are dealt with and you end it like that. Ok that's all right but he didn't do that and it almost feels spiteful.

[@lostnemesis]

This is just some replies I've seen about the story. From T. Akana should be smarter than aqua and was prepared to die for him, but it didn't happen. (I don't agree with the smarter thing a but so dogmatic to die for him absolutely and that would have been an arguably even more fucked up ending for aqua if he was trying to stop that. I think that is one where if he committed to it it would have been surprising that he committed to it and also it could have resulted in a very interesting ending) Kana's character ark with aqua is trashed a couple chapters before the ending, Aquas death was a weak plot point, Imagine promising his beloved sister to not end up like their mother who has to lie all her life and that she is happy and having fun only to end up like her in the end because aqua thought dying will protect Ruby, Side characters are forced to be happy until the end because the writer is a psychopath. (That is just funny) From Jay. Funny. Still leaves above jjk and mha ending, From Shuraine. So, Oshi No Ko's ending has been disappointing to say the least. Now, Aka Akasaka has not one, but 2 insanely popular manga's that he somehow butchered due to rushed he wrote the ending. But that is not whats important right now... I honestly dont care if this ended as a tragedy, but the way Aka did it is just so BUNS. Like, i wouldn't have mind if it was well written, but like its not. Its like it is put there as a "Shock Value". And that's not all, cuz Hikaru (Father of Aqua and Ruby) is literally fucking shitly written, she has been going back to being good, then goes back to being the villain for the sake of the plot twist. It just became so forced after Aka did that. Not only that, but God crow girl is literally the one of the most useless piece of plot device added to the story, it didnt even add narrative to this shit we didnt learn about the reincarnation which is honestly disappointing. Also Aka literally wasted like 70+ chapters of Aqua's development for the sake of this SHIT ENDING. He was questioning his revenge and stuff for that duration of the chapter and when he finally made up his mind, it was honestly a pretty great thing. But Aka literally threw that shit to the Lava. It was all useless. Lastly, my Kana problem. I was not a Kana glazer by any means, but it was honestly shitty. Aka was giving us hints in the final arc about the possibility of romantic relationship between Kana and Aqua, but like you already know by now the ending happened which made the entire development storyline of Kana built upon that point, useless. Aka Akasaka, you are one of my favorite romance authors and you did not deliver on this one. You're Kaguya-sama ending was shit but its was acceptable, but this one is just utter ASS. Rushed, destroyed the already built plot points, and destroyed character that has been built up to that point. What the actual fuck. Short explanation: Ending is ass and destroyed a lot of character development that Aka did for those character. The ending also left a ton of plot holes that Aka put and didnt address. One guy who just has a random username who ends up saying he's just here to laugh at the fans, And then a boatload of people like straight up I see about a dozen people straight going. what is it with this trend of shity endings. this was peak until it crashed straight into the dumpster. people read to escape life and here's the fucking MC fumbling worse than me. if you come here to read this crap guys don't bother it has so many plot holes and the author knows how to destroy manga. And one reply that has a lot more interaction than the main comment because the main comment is about people will think this is just an okay ending in a few years the reply is. People are disappointed because we know the potential it has. But because of the mangakas incompetence we get this shity conclusion, aqua will be remembered as an edgy MC who thinks he's dying will save the story but nah he's just edgy with main characters syndrome, I can keep going but honestly it's just sad seeing so many people disappointed with the ending.

[@Leafmyst]

@@lostnemesis Exactlyyyyyy You jotted down all the issues I have that I couldn't fit in the video there is just so much plotholes after the ending. We were all being led to believe for this dramatic or atleast satisfying arc of Aqua's revenge or Hikaru's redemption yet it was wasted asf. Messaging is not there its just so disappointing

[@lostnemesis]

​@@Leafmyst I love your use of it being like a bad ending in a visual novel 😂 because it really does feel like that.

[@dirge7459]

I feel like ppl who do that are simply wasting everyone's time and resources to literally pour their hatred into something that ppl love, to provide some childishly arrogant point of view, that will never ever be accepted by the general public, especially once they find out they did it for personal reasons. Even after Anno got those death threats, he killed practically everyone in Evangelion and though I liked that movie, I can easily understand that ppl still hated him after that movie, because what he did wasn't justified nor the right thing to do. You don't waste millions or production facilities to take personal stabs at what ppl like or what they have said, because that's simply an abuse of status/power and no one should ever tolerate that level of arrogant behaviour. I know he holds resentment for his new manga being axed, but that doesn't justify him screwing over Oshi, and I wish some of the fans defending his badly written endings would see that. We want ppl to do better, not worse, and some fanboys really cannot live with that for some reason (it's as if those fanboys think of themselves as "true" fans, and us wanting better somehow makes us non true fans/bad folks).

[@themisanthropicnihilist8277]

Y'know I started to realize that recently too. A lot of manga struggle to create a satisfying conclusion, heck, some even struggle with the final arc. Naruto, Bleach, Jujutsu Kaisen, Attack on Titan, Yu Yu Hakusho, The Promised Neverland just off the top of my head. It definitely feels like a lot of it feeling rushed is probably because of the author being rushed with their weekly series' . I know that's just how manga goes for the big guys and the overwhelming competition keeps ideas fresh, but at the cost of being satisfying the whole way through.

[@TeamSakurasou]

I don't think its gonna be accepted yet, but we will eventually understand that oshi no ko really dropped the ball on its writing before the rush ending. Many dropped themes, story plots not finished not to show some lesson or point but to push a chapter. Remember ruby's OG mom? That plotline went literally nowhere and made 0 sense thats one of the big ones people forget I feel. I think it peaked early, and some people are coming around to that same conclusion. Im glad I watched s1 and read the manga but honestly I can rest this series at average at best and never think much on it. Wasted potential is a good way to describe it, and with what happened with kaguya im not looking forward to the artists next work.

[@Leafmyst]

Exactly. The story seemed to introduce plots and didnt even explore them any further. Every single of Aka Akasaka always has this issue. Renai Daiko got axed in middle of 2024 and thats when Oshi no Ko was around the Ai's wish part which could also explain how he lost interest in his work like that. I honestly feel like Aka should have a ghostwriter no joke. The dude can seriously make some of the most compelling stories but towards the end it always seems to fail not just one step short but pretty much all the way.

[@Pepstep_07]

It peaked at episode 1. It should've dropped the reincarnation aspect entirely imo, and just be a detective mystery about two siblings trying to get their revenge on their mother's killer

[@TeamSakurasou]

@@Leafmyst Just saw thsi comment so a little late, but I fully agree with what you said about either a ghost writer or some type of assistance in any way. There can only be so many times where he loses interests, we get a great product half baked and people are ready for the next. Eventually the author will fall off if he keeps doing this and I assume the editors and big suits would want to keep him around for the long future.

[@TeamSakurasou]

@@Pepstep_07 The best way to handle things sometimes is to leave them unexplored. Frankly I never needed a reason on why they got reincarnated, although I expected something eventually. Funny enough something better on top of my head than whatever that happens was a plot twist about Ei being some type of higher being and being responsible for certain events.

[@GameBreaker1055]

Ah, so it has the same downfall as MHA. Lot's of interesting elements get introduced, but then just fade away for the story to become more generic by the end

[@TakenUsername760]

At this point, I don't think shonen will survive the next three to five years with those controversial endings.

[@Leafmyst]

@@TakenUsername760 I feel like the whole Japanese workforce and normalization of overworking needs to be stopped as well. It’s a big causing factor for all these types of underwhelming endings. Making a weekly chapters is really demanding. So unless it changes it probably won’t last for very long

[@tayojones9460]

@Leafmyst I agree. The work culture of Japan needs to change.

[@Allukard353]

Not a defense, but it's always been like this lol.

[@itssunday1990]

I'll just say that 4Chan predicted everything in this manga that it came as no surprise to most anons. I guess when all you do is spend your time watching anime, you notice a pattern and can predict what will happen next.

[@Leafmyst]

lmao not 4Chan 😭😭😭. I mean if you take 100 different shots one of them must hit right?

[@mitacestalia7532]

tbh, yeah. when i read kaguya and oshi no ko, i noticed something and dislike it: most of problem doesn't really resolve and left hanging. I dropped Kaguya long time ago, glad I did. I read Oshi no Ko just to see if my statement correct, it is. Ngl, I'm laughing hard during the ending. I have no attachment toward the series, but I can see why people who like it will be disappointed.

[@neerajoshi5473]

Why does Aka hate kana throughout the story, she has been nothing more than his personal punching bag. He takes every opportunity he gets to make her life worse like seriously not once she has had a happy moment. Every time you see a good thing happened to her he does something to make her life even worse so many bad things happened to her she is the most unluckiest girl of all time. Why are you see the punching bag of the story

[@Leafmyst]

Kana's character was so wasted by not having Aqua x Kana it seemed like the whole story was pointing towards that direction but it just made her character extremely depressing sad that got toyed by Aqua. Actually pointless

[@I_despise_humanity]

Real like at least make her date Aqua's brother since they admire each other

[@YukkiRuiii]

Tbf its been a pattern for Aka doing fuck all with his built up characters that arent THE main guys like Ishigami and Iino from Kaguya Sama were built up so well but did absolutely fuck all in the final arcs and most of their development was thrown out the window

[@TideTurnerEnjoyer]

Kana slapping Aquas corpse (in front of his loved ones too..) pissed me off so much. Like, way to derail a fan favorite, I just choose to ignore this ever happened because I want to like Kana and that’s actually insane. I don’t know why the author thought this was a good idea at all, if anything all it did was make Kana out to be a disrespectful bitch. I don’t care about a promise or whatever, slapping a CORPSE is diabolical

[@Leafmyst]

She couldve like lightly slapped Aqua's corpse by saying "How could I ever slap you?" or something much more tame. Full on bitch slapping a dead corpse is so fucking wrong 😭

[@Robin503]

It surprises me how she didn't immediately get kicked the fuck out once she did that 😂 That's atleast what would realistically happen in real life..

[@TheXDGuy]

I mean she did said she would slap hom if he dies

[@Leafmyst]

@@TheXDGuy Its hella extreme in any circumstances that kind of behavior is intolerable. It just ruins Kana's characterization in a way

[@cosmi-uwu]

imo that scene was really in character. and I'm saying that as a major kana stan. she WAS in literal hysterics

[@RuiFanTier]

If the author really want to Kill off Aqua.. At least.. At the very least show us the healing process.. Oh yeah let's see them move on in like one panel.

[@elusivo3347]

The crow girl felt very superfluous and unnecessary when she barely did anything. If anything, they should’ve explained the gods and supernatural aspect of the story and how exactly the reincarnation works. I hate how every character barely get a satisfying ending and just makes them even more miserable. But alas, this is the reality we are in, time to go work on that magical boy/girl Oshi no Ko AU I’ve been planning since last August

[@Leafmyst]

Pretty much on the same level as one-liner background character. All she did was monologuing with no plot convenience

[@apieceofblueglassmoon]

Akasaka can make the flight, but not the landing

[@Leafmyst]

Thats such a good way to say it. Bro fr takes off flawlessly but always crashes

[@apieceofblueglassmoon]

@@Leafmyst the one who writes the endings for akasaka mangas should be a different writer I swear to God 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Leafmyst]

@ He should hire a ghostwriter as a secondary pilot that can land the ending 😭😭😭

[@BelBelle468]

Contrary to popular belief, I think the problems of Oshi no Ko were evident for a long time. I can’t really get why ppl think these bad endings come out nowhere. The only story I got invested in was MHA, and even I could tell it was going downhill. The reason? In an interview it was discovered the creator changed his story to align with reader polls over time, which explained why the best parts of it disappeared and ended the way it did. Star Vs is another example of something whose terrible ending was in the cards. The flaws that plagued its ending was in its first season. It just became more overt over time as the creator as given more freedom. OnK is the same. It’s even more obvious knowing that it was likely inspired by Om Shanti Om, and Aka probably figured Ai Hoshino killing Hikaru as a ghost was a bad ending lol. Basically, OnK fans are huffing copium. I can’t really blame them since ignoring the flaws until it becomes unsalvageable is kinda typical for any person, but this was inevitable.

[@Leafmyst]

Oshi no Ko honestly feels like that as well especially since the direction it was heading was Ruby x Aqua but it abruptly changed due to backlash (atleast thats what it felt like) and maybe caused it to go downhill since then. The main reason why people don't talk about these issues until the very end is because they are unable to form their opinion on whether the story was turning bad or not without fully reading it. Another thing is that when stories end the flaws become visible and much more noticeable to the readers and its quite unfair to say readers are stupid for not realizing it sooner. The story builds all these expectations for the readers yet it crumbles under its own pressure which leads to flops endings like these.

[@RKNancy]

I was hoping for the future chapters to fix these issues, not exacerbate the very problems the story had. People had too much trust in Aka's writing, so much so that we all got betrayed in the end.

[@65591]

Agreed. Didn't want to watch it, watched S1 because friends recommended it, dropped it. It's all pedocriminality and incest (sometimes) hidden by pretty heart touching but ultimately meaningless plots from the start to the end.

[@MistressoftheIceMoon]

That's ultimately why I feel writers shouldn't try to "align" with what the audience wants (this is a trend that's become more prevalent due to social media). It ruins the creator's original vision.

[@loliH9]

Ah, right, it ONLY got bad at the end. Yeah...

[@Mr_Mistah]

This manga has been bad since Tokyo Blade arc I don't know why fans pretend the writing is amazing when it's laughably bad. Worse than Kaguya-Sama.

[@shakirashipslied9721]

Yeah it got derailed for me when that lil' god kid or w/e popped up. That's about the time I dropped it.

[@greed-1914]

​@@shakirashipslied9721 Yeah, when Aqua thought his father was dead and let go, I expected some sort of reveal that would pull him back. But introducing some deity really made me question if there was an overall plan here. Sure, there was that reincarnation, but that part was basically just a catalyst for the story and didn't need any explanation. It felt more like he wrote himself into a corner and accidentally ended the story there, and had to undo it.

[@shakirashipslied9721]

@@greed-1914 Pretty much that, you hit the nail on the head. The reincarnation part is def just a magical realism plot device which needs no explanation for how it works. There didn't need to be MORE to the supernatural aspect of the story. If it stayed as a normal drama that didn't start going in every direction known to man and punching down certain characters for no reason, it could've been much more successful.

[@dragfang3723]

Yuji doesn't have memory manipulation powers Toji was just deluding himself since he found a close friend and Choso brothers release a certain signal when they either die or are close to death

[@Leafmyst]

Ohh I see. That makes sense especially since Gege confirmed that Yuji has no memory manipulation powers

[@owo4288]

Todo. Toji is Megumi's father.

[@Vanillie261]

3:53 i wasnt looking at the screen when this part came up, but as soon as i heard "Akasaka, why did you add this arc into the story??" And there's a sound of someone grabbing something, my first thought was "he's going to pull up the alabama scene, isnt it?" 💀

[@Leafmyst]

😭😭

[@himariisalive]

It sucks when the ending is just:

[@Leafmyst]

Ikr having invested 2-3 years and followed along week by week the ending is such a slop

[@isaiahkayode6526]

Mid.

[@Rebber]

We can only pray that either the anime fixes all these inconsistencies and pacing issues, and make the ending less rushed, or Aka can pull a Horikoshi and release some bonus chapters (I doubt this) that can give a sense of closure to the ending. There's nothing more disheartening than seeing a genuinely beloved series end so abruptly and become such a mess, OnK deserved a lot more than whatever that doo doo water of an ending this is.

[@Leafmyst]

The 38 bonus chapter made the ending feel much more satisfying. I hope oshi no ko adds an epilogue

[@BladeMasterIcarus]

It's executing an ending like this just makes an author hated by his own audience. People hate bad ends fine but OnK lacks anything noteworthy of being a satisfying ending either.

[@phobics9498]

I am optimistic so far. S2 was very good though I was surprised how much it covered. I expected it to just cover the tokyo blade arc fully but it went further. I don't know how good the coverage was compared to manga as I read tokyo blade more than a year ago but it was still quite good. In the manga I did kind of feel like dark ruby arc was rushed and resolved way too quickly though I did still like it quite a bit. I wonder what the anime will do with all of this. Adaptation can change the pacing quite a bit without changing the material so who knows

[@philiah]

Gonna bank on anime fixing it too since there are a few animes out there that have changed the ending before

[@animan8192]

Even tho I'm a Kana fan, I do think that in the whole Oshi no Ko the only important for the plot thing she did was joining B-Komachi. Everything build up with her was thrown off a cliff (just like Aqua ROFL). I'm not saying that Aqua dying would be bad regardless of the execution of that in the manga. Author could give his death a lot more weight, but he just ignored the buildup, rather than using it to enhance the ending he wanted. So a big part of plot points became Bondarchuk's guns (google it)

[@Leafmyst]

That is literally the perfect term that 100% describes Kana's role throughout the story.

[@animan8192]

@@Leafmyst You're right btw! After everything I've said, I didn't notice that Kana itself is a one big Bondarchuk's gun xddd

[@Leafmyst]

@@animan8192 Yeah exactly she was always downplayed and that is literally her problem. Story doesn't let Kana shine and Kana herself literally gives up the spotlight to others. No change in character and development. The whole reason for her joining B Komachi was specifically for that reason and that its indeed ok for her to be selfish. But then the whole scandal arc happened and she felt really like a one dimensional average tsundere troupe character.

[@fatpurp4041]

If they’d just cut out the final 10~ chapters it would be a solid 8/10, but they just HAD to end it like that

[@Leafmyst]

it had the potential to be 10/10 but it just ended like that bruh

[@MyNamesMegatron]

Somehow making a good ending is harder then having better plot

[@Leafmyst]

I heard a quite that went something like anyone can make a good story but it takes a writer to make an ending which I think fits here so well

[@phobics9498]

@@Leafmyst I feel like most people would write very mediocre stuff without writing advice. In regards to that though, I dont think endings aren't in their own special dimension. It's just that it's a different set of things that make them good as opposed to the story as a whole. I see this as the same thing as intro's. They are a thing you have to kind of isolate and learn separately to be able to hook a person into your story, though endings fail more often if authors dont take good notes of active plotlines or lack of motivation

[@jayemover_16]

Oh, boy! It's Wonder Egg Priority all over again!

[@kikothesamurai]

Man, 2024 really is the year for popular anime with mid endings.

[@Miyurohime]

Honestly if he is going to keep getting bored and butchering beloved projects he should stop making series it's very sad to see like why start something when you haven't finished another project properly it's frustrating.

[@Leafmyst]

@@Miyurohime Aka needs to actually finish one series before latching onto a different one it’s so disrespectful to readers

[@Miyurohime]

@@Leafmyst yeah exactly he had two of my favorite series but like I don't even want to touch the manga of finish the anime anymore it's not worth the disappointment

[@TrueBladeSoul]

@@Leafmyst yeah he is the proof of why an unfinished story is better than a rushed one without passion

[@Leafmyst]

@@TrueBladeSoul You can feel the passion for the work dying, reading the last few chapters

[@cosmi-uwu]

"it doesn't make sense for uikaru to be the mastermind behind everything" "no one is pure evil" ....... "lol just kidding here's hikaru the pure evil mastermind behind everything"

[@hp8167]

I stopped reading Oshi no Ko earlier on but I still kept up with the reactions because I had friends who read. Going on twitter and the subreddit after the ending and seeing next to no one happy about the way it ended was crazy. At least if it had been a polarizing ending there would have been some discussions on the merits or how in line the ending was with core themes but it was like the entire fanbase united against it. That kind of fandom unity is equally crazy and funny. As an outsider looking in, it always felt like he wanted a tragedy and planned for some kind of tragic ending but getting from Point A to Point B was a struggle between deadlines, unexpected popularity, and actually writing a plot that made such an ending viable. I also think that he and his editors need to work on him pivoting towards new series while in the final stages of his current ones but thats another can of worms.

[@Leafmyst]

Aka jumps from work to work time and time again its honestly frustrating. Investing your time into his work just so that he could ditch it and start a new one is honestly really disrespectful. And yea as you said its a whole can of worms that he needs to deal with if he keeps on doing the same shit over and over again

[@ToastOfToastington]

The big issue with oshi no ko for me is that it wants to be a dark look at the entertainment industry a la perfect blue, but it doesn't actually have any systemic critiques, so all it can do is have an Evil Guy to get rid of. i dropped it after the arc with the cosplayer, because at that point i realized akasaka had nothing useful to say about the industry as a whole. if higher ups take advantage of entertainers they should just say sorry. and the exploited should just shut up and take it, complainers are the real problem. just a terrible, worthless way of dealing with the problems in the entertainment industry, and a super flimsy thematic structure to build a finale on. the core problem with idols and idol culture is that there's a Guy who Sucks and he's Really Sneaky so we gotta get rid of him. then it will be Good and Pure because the Bad Guy will be gone. bleh

[@alexleaf2136]

agree. the only reason why it looks "dark" is because of some evil guy, who actually not even hiding, Akane just figured his identity out in 2-3 chapters or smth, while Aqua couldn't in 15 years? Personally, i think that oshi no ko should've choose another genre, like just a drama with all these actors'/staff/authors/etc. interactions, and not a dark detective one it would've been much better

[@tensai-a-san]

1:13 The First Layer is such a beautiful piece, I’m happy it’s now appearing outside of Made in Abyss videos as well

[@Leafmyst]

its a classic OSTs from Made in Abyss is so memorable

[@bridgettelair370]

Literally the worst element (besides the pacing) is Hikaru, he's like the catalyst for the story and he's hardly in it, in the movie arc characters imagine how he maybe felt when he was with Ai but like that's not a real way to characterize someone. Seriously they just assume everything, go to the stupid beach, and then show him the movie suddenly and try to make him feel bad I guess. And after all that utter nonsense, he's just a lying psycho anyway like we already knew because we briefly saw him kill that one girl many chapters ago. If he wasn't go to be important to the story why would you make one of the driving factors of the plot revenge!!! I can't believe some people actually felt bad for Hikaru during that insanely stupid confrontation, I didn't buy a single line or panel of him because it just felt like it was all a lie and a big giant waste of time. This is your protagonist and antagonist meeting for the first time and it felt in real time as I was reading it like it didn't matter...... ughhhhhhh...... I'm going to be complaining about this story for a while because of how truly awful the crash was. The train had derailed around chapter 100ish, wobbled dangerously all during the movie arc, outright fell off a cliff during the beach chapters, and drowned for the remaining chapters till it finally sunk just like Aqua.

[@Leafmyst]

The scandal arc was kinda irrelevant and 15 year lie movie arc really did derail the course of the story. Its just really disappointing to see this happen

[@Leafmyst]

Aqua trying to become a surgeon should have some sort of role to the story as well. Like if Ruby got hurt because of Hikaru and he saved Ruby with his own hands that, in a way, makes him not regret his past of not being able to save Ai. It couldve served a really good purpose the story. Hikaru pretty much had 0 development as a villain of the story. If we got to see his characterization and how he turned out to be truly broken soul beyond repair instead of crow girl saying that, it couldve had so much weight to it.

[@AnArtistInAVoid]

Meanwhile, Undead Unluck is cooking up an insane ending rn, even if some part of it is being done a bit fast.

[@penguinicicare7748]

bro nailed basically 90% of the community

[@brianhall23]

I have no issue with characters being killed off but I do think the final chapters were rushed. I also think their father's character lacked some development as a villian and the Crow Girl was wasted. She was never really used the way she should have been.

[@Leafmyst]

Exactly how I feel I dont mind characters dying and having a tragic ending but atleast execute it properly

[@GMD3N]

Loved the 2 seasons on Netflix. Binged the manga in a day but wtf. The ending doesn't make sense at all. There are literally so many other options for aqua. Felt so rushed and nonsensical. What's the point of the last arc if that was supposed to ensure that aqua doesn't go kill himself or directly kill the "main villian".. Who, was so insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Who is even the crow girl? She there just to conveniently play the child actors? What? Everyone is worse off but brushes the whole thing off like it's nothing... Kana was also treated like shit. Slapping the corpse is also wtf. I know it's a promise but it's just so disrespectful no matter promise or not. They had so many chances to confirm their feelings as well. Just feel so hollow now. Like the whole awesome experience (up to anime season 2) was wrecked by the last arc, ending and the treatment of kana arima. Arg need to rant! Feel bad for people who followed this weekly

[@AUCreatoer]

I haven't seen the ending of Oshi No Ko but seeing this video explain the ending perfectly, I'm pretty dissapointed and I think I'll drop Oshi No Ko for now. This video is a great analysis btw! Lovely video :3

[@Leafmyst]

Thank you :D I was so hung up on the ending that I made a video as a outlet. Glad you enjoyed it

[@TheRein64]

This video PERFECTLY encapsulates the bullsh!t of the ending. I'd say drop the story for good, the ending drove itself off a cliff......

[@gabr1zz298]

The true Oshi no Ko was the friends we made along the way

[@Leafmyst]

Truly our Oshi no Ko😔😔

[@sashas_buttercup]

Honestly, and ending can be tragic without having any characters die.

[@Mayoran2]

Honestly yes the authors don't own us anything but ffs why are you screwing over your work and a million people because you're petty that your work is popular/a character is more popular than you want them to be (I'm looking at you Gege). Real mature to throw away years of works over ego.

[@Leafmyst]

Gege heartless Akutami and Fraud Fraudsaka are the most iconic duo of all time specializing in their ability to make terrible endings without fail 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@bubblesawesome3284]

Oshi no ko had everything!!! Good art , good music, had a great story at 1st and the animation is outstanding the animators out did themselves. And the voice acting fit perfectly like bro you had everything how did you fumble the bag this bad.

[@thetureplayer9991]

Maybe if the anime studio they pull the”the promise neverland season 2” move on the ending can fix it lol

[@Elli_Hamato_Todoroki]

0:17 i thought it was ok

[@Leafmyst]

Honestly after the new chapter of MHA I totally agree. The ending lacked the resolution part and felt kind of rushed but its nothing compared to OnK tbh

[@wonki5287]

Its underwhelming, but not bad.

[@Faceless_time_traveler]

The funny thing is... If the author wanted to rush the ending, a happy ending would be easier to rush. A sad ending like this would be, as you put it, require a dozen more chapters to show the characters reacting to the tragedy. Getting bored of your own story and rushing the ending is one thing, but feeling that and then deliberately choosing an ending that needs more work is silly...

[@Leafmyst]

The thing is Aka had planned the whole story beforehand and wanted it to end tragically which was set in stone ever since chapter 1. So his rush to reaching the tragedy caused it the end this horribly lmfao

[@MatosLagos]

It's perplexing how Aka Akasaka fumbled TWO endings

[@Leafmyst]

it couldve been 3 his other work got axed which couldve also had a dogshit ending

[@Mr_Mistah]

Kaguya-Sama Love Is War is 100 million times better than Oshi no Ko

[@identitysmiles]

This video is really well edited and I love the script, your points perfectly sum up my problems. I wish aka had either gone full bad end (ruby dies too, everyone is stupidly depressed etc and we see how Truly fucjed up the industry is) or we got something much better than this. This feels like a wishy washy ending

[@Leafmyst]

I know right its such a slop of an ending. I still can't get over the fact it ended this way and just wanted to move on by making this video but the hollow feeling still lingers.

[@MarkITEXE]

@@Leafmyst The fact that this manga was in the top 5 best selling manga of 2023 and literally has the number one most viewed anime opening song on KZbin and the first episode was legitimately the best start to a very interesting Revenge premise, but literally a YEAR later you have partially Nobody talking about S2 of the anime, and now that the ending’s coming around, you literally have people burning their volumes and saying that this is one of THE worst manga they’ve ever read, so much so that even AI can make a better ending than the actual one!!! LET THAT SINK IN FOR A SECOND AND STUDY IT!!!

[@Leafmyst]

@ To be fair, literally no other anime in history started off with a anime MOVIE as its first episode and has the most shocking start that anyone has ever read. No matter how crazy the story gets it will never surpass it because people only watched the first episode because of all the hype. The ending could have been handled so much better and it would still be impossible to top that.

[@Leafmyst]

@ Frieren also followed the same formula of anime movie as its first episode but with frieren it wasn’t combined into 1 and released 4 episode 1h20m and it’s now the no.1 highest rated anime (well deserved).

[@akaniichan]

I mean it's Akasaka, famous since his instant bullet manga to make his chara unhappy. Love is War was the surprising one for me lol.

[@MissMiseri]

This is why fanfics exist

[@deazee2288]

There is an extremely fine line between a bad ending and "the ending wasn't what I wanted"

[@Leafmyst]

But that doesn't apply to this case does it? I didn't want Aqua to die but it still happened but what the entire point of the video was that the execution and way it rushed through everything and the plotlines that were literally unexplained and abandoned made this ending bad. I genuinely do enjoy tragic endings but this one aint it.

[@Mr_Mistah]

The whole manga is bad not just the ending

[@Leafmyst]

@@Mr_Mistah thats crazy to say ngl

[@Pen_Slinger]

What is Japan's obsession with sad/bad endings?

[@Leafmyst]

I know right? At first it was fine because it was out of the norm now its just exhausting having my emotions toyed like that over and over

[@BelBelle468]

It isn’t a Japan obsession, let’s not pretend plenty of other stories don’t have their own bad endings. In Japan it happens more often simply cuz the authors are rushed. They have to make new chapters within a short time frame or to fit for an anime adaptation. They are overworked and that means they don’t have the luxury to prepare their endings. Horikoshi (MHA) has admitted to frequent nightmares of being axed, which likely has an effect on the story. Basically the industry sucks.

[@Dave102693]

@@BelBelle468this is the real answer

[@TheAAJYu]

I wanted to have hope that a manga that featured the entertainment industry as a major setting would know the importance of telling a satisfying story and work towards achieving that goal. Instead, ONK became its own antithesis.

[@Leafmyst]

@@TheAAJYu It’s quite ironic in a way but it could’ve been poetic if they handled the ending properly but sadly it just ended up feeling like the series ended with no passion

[@TheAAJYu]

@ Even more tragic is the effect this will have on Aka’s reputation as a creator. When Kaguya and OnK had momentum, they were really great, but all of that is now buried under their endings, and the correlating factor is Aka losing interest in favor of something else. This inconsistency in his passion will undoubtedly tarnish anything he touches from now on, and that is a real shame.

[@Charlie-fk4ly]

To be honest, I think why the ending sucked was because the author was completely done with the story. He probably had a more well thought out ending in mind, but, due to outside forces beyond his control, he just felt he wanted to be disconnected to the story, which in turn, led to this lackluster ending.

[@michaelp3609]

Here’s the thing I think Aqua should have lived but even if you have to have him die…..have it make sense. His plan was beyond stupid and only works because Aka said so, his reasons were nonsensical as Ruby was in zero danger and Hikaru was basically caught because of Nino and no Aka you can’t claim the movie we never saw apparently convinced everyone to believe Aqua was killed by Hikaru but also there’s no evidence to put him in jail or stop him from hurting others ever again, you can’t have it both ways.

[@Leafmyst]

The whole story was building up to Aqua living and caring for himself and not revenge. He 100% should have lived and crow girl 100% needed to play atleast a significant role in the finale

[@michaelp3609]

@@Leafmyst Oh preach to the choir bro, The manga built up to a lot but Aka just couldn't be assessed XD Build up to the 15-year lie? Nope, we skip the most important part ai's death and how the twins feel about reenacting the most traumatic event of their lives because Ruby wanting to bone her brother was far more important apparently (never get a resolution on that btw o-0) Kana's graduation that was built up for almost as long as the movie? Nope she doesn't get s single spoken line throughout her entire graduation : D not like graduation are an important aspect of idol culture or anything why should we hear from the girl graduating? (Don't think it is even mentioned that's what is happening the entire arc T-T) And the worst of all don't even get me started on Crow girl, this bitch acted in the movie and interacted with Kana so it isn't like she can only be seen by or interact physically with the twins but all she does is yap before suddenly acting like she ever gave a shit about Aqua because Aka couldn't even write a good tragedy T-T holy fuck Aka even Mengo was telling you to take your time💀

[@michaelp3609]

@ oh preach to choir bro, This manga set up so much and payed off none of it. The 15 year lie skips the most important scene in the Ai’s death and how the twins feel reenacting the most traumatic event of their lives because I guess Ruby wanting to bone Aqua was far more important (no resolution on that 🫠) Kana’s graduations that got pushed back because of the movie she doesn’t get to even speak, not like graduations are an important part of idol culture or anything 🙃 why should she talk? And don’t even get me started on crow girl, she acts in the movie so to isn’t like she can only be seen by or physically interact with the twins, does nothing but gaslight Aqua and Ruby to get revenge but sudden acts like she ever cared as she watched Aqua fucking drown cause Aka couldn’t be assed to write an actual tragedy. Holy shit Mengo was telling this man to take his time but nope 💀

[@Leafmyst]

@@michaelp3609 Mengo atleast wouldve cooked a better ending even with incest than this dogshit bro.

[@michaelp3609]

@@Leafmyst oh no doubt, Mengo would have at least been super invested into what she made regardless of what it was.

[@jonahkolell]

This author needs to hire a ghost writer to finish his stories. For real! Just give us this slop

[@Leafmyst]

Literally its so bad that I can't fathom it.

[@Somew1n]

I guess he lost 10 apex ranked in a row

[@Freezient]

Hm ngl the “questionable” ending would’ve have a lot of people talk about it, if they want to go with “that” I at least want the story to still be good

[@quarterpounderwithcheesebacon]

I dont care for spoilers in the slightest. In fact, I will actually go out of my way to seek spoilers for the shows, games, and manga I consume, and It never takes the fun from experiencing those series. But holy is this ending so dog shit that its making me seriously consider selling all my current volumes and never reading it again. Like, how is that even possible??? Despite bad endings, I'd still buy and read AOT, JJK, or other manga, but damn does this ending actually suck, it makes me feel bad about the money I wasted on the volumes. Not to mention that they did best girl Kana so damn dirty! She doesn't deserve this! Anyways, on a different note. The Erased anime ending was pretty meh. But the manga ending was better and the manga had more details throughout the series that made the ending actually make sense. I recommend reading Erased. The opening is still really good though!

[@Leafmyst]

I have read the Erased manga after finishing the anime and holy it felt so much grounded in reality rather than that goofy trampoline scene (ik I still can't get over the absurdity lmfao). Personally I wouldn't sell your manga's if I were you but I wouldnt buy any more either. You can probably keep it as a reminder whenever you see a terrible ending and realize it wasn't as bad as OnK 😭😭😭😭

[@oldsnake771]

Is kinda funny how people didn't see this coming, All of Hackasaka's stories go to shit around the middle point, it happened in kaguya, It happened here as well around the time the "dark ruby arc" and the crow loli happened, but we know he is going to release another manga with an strong premise, everyone is going to hype it up and then it becomes a trainwreck because he doesn't care anymore, rinse and repeat, like some cycle of life or some shit

[@Leafmyst]

Fr I read all his work and now he has disappointed me every single time without a fail. Never let bro cook ever again 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@God_is_a_High_School_Girl]

So, this is just my pet theory I've been sharing around, but I think Aka was trying to write a Shakespearean Tragedy with OnK. Specifically, I think he was heavily playing off of Hamlet. A lot of the story's overall beats line up with that play, including the general shape of the ending. But, either due to rushing or disdain, Aka tripped up at the finale and couldn't quite nail the tragic irony from Hamlet's ending.

[@ivanbluecool]

I enjoyed the prologue as the mom was the only good character being the perfect representation of the japanese entertainment industry being used and not having real love for it. Same with how it was her fault for this happening for calling the dad. Moment it became a wiki manga it was over. Mha aot oshi no ko jjk. So many trash and bad manga endings now a days

[@zelda_draws4865]

Maybe the anime will do like the promised neverland but… just change the ending in a good way? (Yes im delusional)

[@Leafmyst]

@@zelda_draws4865 I hope so too (I’m also delusional)

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

the worst carcrashes have the best doujins I guess.

[@TheRealMakotoYuki419]

I knew this shit was gonna fail when the anime first came out and everyone glazed that shit like their life depended on it

[@Leafmyst]

Not really for that reason the start was one of if not the best in anime/manga history. Wouldn't even consider it glazing shit was hella peak.

[@flameron1]

Unmm…no you didn’t it just sounds like you hated it because it was getting a lot of traction that’s child behavior 😂. You can pat yourself on the back I guess.

[@jacoblopez1275]

It was such a punch in the nuts then the next chapter they give you a kiss on the cheek as you lie on ground squealing and crying

[@Leafmyst]

Yeah I have no expectation for the bonus chapter. The damage has already been dealt and it would take 10-20 more chapters to fix the issues it got on its hand

[@dreamnants]

Having a tragic ending to a story is fine; if done well, a tragedy offers catharsis for the reader. But having a tragic ending without setting and building up to that ending is not. As people noted, Aka could have easily ended the story in less chapters in a satisfactory enough manner yet purposely chose the tragedy route. Yet he didn't do enough prior set-up to make the tragic ending feel an acceptable way to end the series either, leading to what poorly executed ending we got. To cite from Terrible Writing Advice on endings, essentially the ending does not need to be perfect; rather, it should be the most natural, emotionally resonant, or logical one possible, since a predictable ending is better than a poorly-executed twist ending. "Because if you try something fancy and screw up, readers will probably remember the botched ending more than the well-run marathon."

[@ryugohan]

Also Aqua killing himself was pointless anyway since Nino’s confession led to the discovery of other accomplices, which ties to Hikaru being the mastermind behind the deaths of different idols. The pattern of Hikaru gaslighting people into becoming killers would start to emerge when they all tell the same story of how Hikaru was their friend and how they couldn’t let Ai be surpassed as an idol. Hell, we’re introduced to Hikaru murdering an idol and framing it as an accident. He would definitely be charged for at least one death. But oh well, Aqua decides to take of it himself because only he can deal with his father for all the bad things he’s done. This is after Akane and co. saved Ruby from being murdered by Nino but tragedy’s gotta happen I guess. A story is tragic when death happens in spite of MC doing the right thing. When death happens because MC decides murder-suicide was the best option when better ones were clearly available, it just becomes a farce.

[@themanthemyth111]

Fans really can't have a fulfilling and satisfying ending even in fiction 💀

[@aksarasrinivasan9949]

Yooo this video is pretty fire!! It randomly got recommended to me and i enjoyed it a lot and assumed that you probably have a few thousand subscribers, but i was shocked when thats not true! Keep up the good work bro!!

[@Leafmyst]

thanks :D

[@robbyroba]

"Marge, I'm confused. Is this a happy ending or a sad ending?" "It’s an ending, that's enough."

[@Melifanatique]

There's a difference between a ending that does not suit your tastes (shipping, characters developed...happy ending vs tragic ending) but fulfill its promises and explores its theme like MHA or Erased, and shitty ending that fails his promises and throw their themes to the trash can... One that has lost itself in its theme and ends up giving something you're not quite sure what was the point the author wanted to make (Attack on Titan) and an ending that had bad undertones from the very beginning and revealed its garbage at the end. For me Oshi no ko is the latter. Right from the beginning there are things that made me only look from a distance / from time to time at how the situation evolved...and then the last few chapters dropped I wasn't surprised. Honestly Aqua felt like a male Mary Sue you could find in a 12 years old's fanfic. (and I say that as a fanfic author myself, you have to start SOMEWHERE what baffles me is that the author is a professional and edited with this level)

[@Leafmyst]

Its a common reoccurrence for him as well. Looking at his past you would expect something worthwhile and high quality yet it despite it, he always seemed to fumble the ending every single time. I remember when there was a meme of Aka Akasaka writing a terrible ending for Kaguya sama because of Apex lmfao. Its quite baffling

[@BladeMasterIcarus]

​@@Leafmystat this point you'd think the guy would have I don't know taken some classes on how to end a story. Maybe even hire an outside writer to bounce ideas back and forth to help him reach the ideal ending for his story and its themes. I would have thought after so many poorly written and bad endings he would have learned something about how to end a story.

[@Leafmyst]

@@BladeMasterIcarus the editor for the story of OnK is aka himself I feel like there should have been someone supervising him to create a better ending

[@Dojafish]

MHA end still shit

[@BladeMasterIcarus]

@@Dojafish no that ending fumbled it's way to the finish line. Not a 10/10 ending but it's still within the themes the story was trying to convey. All around fine for a long running shonen Manga. The bonus epilogue chapters make it more satisfying though.

[@yamatoko219]

''But in the end, the world refused to change''

[@leandrusguy144]

Attack On Titan did not have a terrible ending...

[@justsomeaveragegirl]

Exactly

[@nfilexd]

it seems like everything i don’t watch or read bc of early warning signs ends up bad…. im so suprised 💀 how many of these videos on anime’s do ppl need to be suprised anymore

[@Zarathustra_infinite]

You don't how much this chapter made me boil bro had me thinking i was gonna have a heart attack bro

[@Leafmyst]

Right as I read chapter 166 after reading so many leaks and turning out to be actually truly made me so mad that I made this video LMAO

[@YesDefinetlyAbsolutely]

So the real Oshi no Ko, was a friends we make along the way

[@MelonTartVA]

Ngl, I hate this ending so much! I wanted Aqua to have his revenge and be able to live his new life.

[@Leafmyst]

So true man i hate it

[@bacd-nn2lg]

The ending is really good for the entertainment industry were a lot of celebrities end up dead due to similar tragic circumstances.

[@Mr.Darjeelingfrfr]

Dude the same thing happened to his other manga, Love Agency, by far one of the most rushed endings ever. I finished it and was deadass like: "That's it...?"

[@needledealer9971]

The VN bad ending put all my feelings about this into 3 words

[@w1nterycl0uds22]

did we all read oshi no ko on the same site

[@azurerandomness]

Why was the crow girl there? So aka doesn’t have to write an ACTUAL mystery to let them track down Gorou’s body and let Ruby be smart enough to piece things together

[@Gibbstronic]

While i completely understand why someone would hate the ending for being rushed and unfulfilling, I also see how it can be equated to the entertainment industry and the endless cycle that it is. Aqua ultimately got what he wanted in the end, and Ruby did to, just probably not in the way they inotially intended. Aqua dies (again) and Ruby has to smile and lie just like her mom.

[@Leafmyst]

Idk that feels really cheap to me. They could've handled it better and showed more of Ruby but Aka just ignores her character throughout the entire story up until the final part. I would've liked how she ended up like Ai and her thought process and how she processes everything that has happened and same thing for Kana and Akane as well. I don't hate the idea of it coming back full circle if it wasn't handled like how its been handled.

[@geminusleonem9365]

I swear this feels like the author didn't get the incest pairing they wanted approved so out of spite they killed Aqua off, just so he couldn't be with anyone else.

[@Mr_Mistah]

Akasaka had complete control over Oshi No Ko so that's not what happened. He's simply incapable of being a talented writer.

[@9adorechan7]

i have no idea what this manga is about but I stayed bc of the commentary, W vid

[@Leafmyst]

@@9adorechan7 W man

[@samanthot_]

i knew as soon as they introduced the weird incest plotline (the aqua-ruby kiss and kinda the weirdness with aqua and his own mom, though that's a bit more complicated) that this series was finished 😭 I also feel like the reincarnation plotline added too much fantasy to (what mostly felt like) a realistic series, but I love Sarina as a character so idk. Also, if I'm being completely honest, after Kaguya-sama's ending and ofc OnK's ending, I'm not really sure I can hype myself up for any of Aka's creations... Unless he gets to design another IA (vocaloid) voicebank I guess lol

[@The_BlOb]

Had the story just ended with Hikaru's breakdown and one final epilogue chapter or two, it would've been the perfect ending... Sigh.

[@Leafmyst]

Pretty much unnecessary plot twist which didn't even make sense

[@TheSugarRay]

As they say, see you in the dojins.

[@m0ldymilk]

you can tell some manga authors are rich enought to rush their endings and make their fanbase be disappointed so they can make a new manga or retire

[@looseleftkneecap]

It's good that the girls are okay (mostly physically), but I'm still disappointed not seeing Aqua become a doctor after his career in entertainment industry.

[@Leafmyst]

Fr everything went downhill after the 15 year lie part so pretty much the last 20 chapters :/

[@brixtonreyes2255]

I’ve read ONK fanfics that are WAY better than the Aka & Mengo’s “canon” version of the story. The ending was full of OOC moments for the characters and dumb plot holes.

[@Leafmyst]

@@brixtonreyes2255 Fanfic endings are written so well that I refuse to believe the original ending didn’t end that way

[@YukkiRuiii]

Its just Aka's honestly as Mengo was basically chained to the basement of being just an Artist and she basically had no say on the story

[@seannetworkblogsandgames7504]

I honestly didn't hate Kaguya's ending at all. A lot of looming time bombs were coming and he paid them off about as well as you could want. Only part I didn't like was the implied Ishigami pairing with Iino, but I attribute that to basic thinking on a side ship and not noticing how the ship doesn't work on multiple levels.

[@light0733]

It really was that simple huh? Not only that the door theory, how Ai and Ruby was together on the other side of the door, telling Ruby to stay away. But also, how the name, "Aqua-Marine", referring to how he will end up (The way he died in this case)? Same goes with "Ruby", becoming a precious gem, that will glow the brightest in the dark.

[@Omori_Bocchi]

I think its weird for people to say 'this manga/anime has a terrible ending' when it's usually people who have built a headcanon or expectation on how it SHOULD end not how the creator intends it to. Yes there have been times in the past where the mangaka has deliberately sabotaged the series (to love ru, prison school etc) but I dont feel it's that was with the majority. The creator of oshi no ko did not expect it to find as much success as it did and that puts a lot of pressure on creators. Just accept things for how they are instead of how you think they should be

[@Leafmyst]

You are missing the entire point of the video... The whole reason why I made this video is that the whole entire plotlines of each of the characters was abandoned in the end. It is quite literally an objectively bad ending. Stories that do well generally answer questions that the story itself brings to readers. Even though I hate how Aqua died, it doesn't mean I couldn't have enjoyed it either. The story could've been handled in a way that leads to logical and fulfilling ending rather than abrupt switch where everything started crumbling down after a certain breaking point. The whole argument of how "the creator didn't expect their work to be this successful" is stupid as well... I think most of the successful mangakas, if not every successful people in the world, never expected their works to be this big but managed to create a masterpiece that left readers satisfied in the end. Plus its not like the author didn't have any time either. Aka Akasaka had a lot of breaks between OnK and had the vision for how the story should conclude but the execution of it was horrible. The ending feels like it was rushed so that he could pursue his new work and completely forget about the series that had so many people invested in.

[@dirge7459]

What is irking the shit out of me at this moment in time, is how we're seeing fans with reasonable takes on why said manga/anime have simply tripped and failed, and then we're seeing the fanboys making up excuse after excuse as to why said anime has "good" endings, or why being mid is okay (seriously, it's not, if you think mid is okay, then by that logic everything can be mid and thus failure cannot exist, which is batshit stupid logic to snowball towards). It's okay to fail, but it's another if everyone keeps repeating or emulating it in unison, and we're seeing the latter happening in spades these past few years. I know Jump/Netflix and others are creating long-term issues for authors and their IP's, but something has got to give. Either the companies need to fire their superiors who don't know how to actually manage a studio to allow for good stories to be told, or they need to support the studios properly and set superior deadlines that aren't so airtight, as well as giving the artists/writers the space they need to actually produce a start, a middle and a good ending. Also some folks need to stop trying to fail upwards (yes this is becoming a trend these days, writers and such can actually fail upwards if tolerated enough, instead of going back and learning to do better or simply knowing when to bow out).

[@Leafmyst]

That is so true. There is nothing good will come out from defending mid endings. It encourages writers to be lazy and make mediocre work

[@dirge7459]

@@Leafmyst I'm old, so I only just learned what that phrase meant last year lol, but yeah, I don't think we should tolerate "just average" storytelling, because then we don't get books like LotR or HP, or HP Lovecraft, etc. People will likely get confused by my stance, but I don't tolerate average, because I know we can do better, and our species thrives on competition and a genuine strive to want to improve, so settling for less and less each time is regressive and defeating (which can also lead to depression for some, like writers for example). Also don't let anyone tell you to "lower your expectations", because that's a weak soft excuse for "just settle for average/lesser quality", and people like that are often defeatist in nature (I'm not saying ask for the moon, but I'm being realistic in wanting things to just get better instead of not at all).

[@Leafmyst]

@@dirge7459 Yeah exactly as you said. Settling for less is never good for consumers and gives unreasonable leeway to writers

[@firud468]

i trust in the anime to screw off with manga plotline, and if that did happen, it will be the first time ever that i feel an anime is rightfully unfaithful to the original source

[@Leafmyst]

@@firud468 If we get an anime only ending and fix is slop it would make it so much better but I don’t think anime ending can do that without Aka’s permission to alter his work so it’s all up to Aka again 😔😔

[@RKNancy]

Nah, I would rather the studio not adapt it at all. Mangakas need to learn a lesson regarding this stuff, especially since he wasn't even the artist, only the writer. He doesn't need any more residuals and royalties than what he's already received. That safety net of his made him half ãss and even give up on his own series. This is awful.

[@lpfan4491]

People would scream at them for being unfaithful to source regardless, so they should just stay clear.

[@mrd456]

what if ended where aqua survived but ended up in coma that he will prpb never wake from, ruby uses pain like in manga to keep moving forward until years later she performs at dome but during her performance its on tv in hospital room aqua is in and hearing her perform there helps him to finally wake up and he smiles seeing ruby got her dream and series ends. would mean series started with ai songs helping sarina in hospital and ends with her songs helping aqua in hospital

[@Robin503]

Crow girl is such a crutch for the plot.. Her whole character is a plot convenience.. It was never explained wtf she is or how her power works which is why Aka could get away with this stupid ass ending somewhat. Like how can you reincarnate someone but decide not to do it again to save Aqua? This fraud just watches him die and acts like it was the right thing to do even though his plan was just plain dumb and a total butchering for her character and many others like Kana since they never got a satisfactory conclusion because of it 😂

[@Leafmyst]

Literally useless character that lead to no where. Might be literally the most useless character in history. Even more than Aqua (from Konosuba) 😂😂