Why It's Impossible To Live In New York

[@OskarandDan]

Thank you guys for watching as always!! We had so much fun putting this video together - our first one from New York despite it being such a big part of our lives❤ We know rating places like this can be a delicate topic for those with an especially strong affection for their homes, so please take our scores with a grain of salt if you don't agree😂 We appreciate your support as always and see you around the world!!❤

[@QV_Travels]

Thanks for an awesome video as always! 🌍✈️🙏

[@abrahamclott5604]

Love this. New Yorker here. A few points: You look so happy in NY! You clearly get what's so great here and I think you've captured pretty accurately the trade-offs and issues with respect to nature, crime, crazy people, and New York attitude. I don't think you're right on the fight to stay here. That's true for some, but not for most. Things somehow work out eventually. You're off on pricing. As another said, $100/day for food doesn't apply if you live here and cook most meals at home. And one hardly needs to spend $8000/month for rent. You need less space here. And Brooklyn, Queens, and The Bronx have many affordable, safe, and attractive neighborhoods with easy access to the subways and a short ride to Manhattan. You save lots of $ by not needing a car. And you'll spend much less as a resident than as a visitor. My Met Opera ticket this afternoon was $27, and that wasnt some special discount, just a regular Family Circle Ticket. A two-income couple without kids (yet) will do just fine here if it wants to be here. And unless you have lots of heavy baggage, the subway to the Airtrain to JFK is just fine.

[@aldozilli1293]

I visited your city recently and note how overly proud New Yorkers are about living in NY. It's a little weird and a similar amplification of Americans in general who seem to be 100% certain they live in the best and only free place in the world. Americans need to travel more and need to learn humbleness. With travelling you'll certainly be humbled to find you aren't in the No 1 place in the world, far from it.

[@fishersilver8559]

Bless your nana. She's sharp witted. Treasure her while she's still around.

[@zidvicious6047]

I love that she is a true blue Nu Yawka.

[@Steve-ku8wk]

For me, this was one of your best ever videos. I think you hit the love / hate dynamic of nyc perfectly. I also really enjoyed getting to know more of dans family in this video. I didn’t realize you both had such a deep connection to nyc. Good luck with your next destination !

[@Malongo10]

Your love for the city is clear. This is your most exuberant location video. The smiles on your face throughout are great. No doubt, you will spend a lot of time in The City.

[@kayflip2233]

Nah, they're way more exuberant in Singapore and Bangkok.

[@agotado7565]

Great to see your Nana! I let you know this once, but I found out about your KZbin many years ago when she was my customer at Apple. She told me how happy she was for you and Oskar.

[@OskarandDan]

OMG hahaha she sure leaves an impression doesn't she😂 Great to hear from you🙏🏼

[@markuserikssen]

Loved the episode! Somehow, after hearing all of your wishes, I feel like Scandinavia would be the best fit for both of you. Not only because both of you have roots there, but the quality of life there is very high (except for the weather/climate perhaps). But I'm curious to see what other options will get a high score soon. 😁

[@asafmn1983]

Your mission to promote compassion and openness while sharing your travels is truly inspiring. Can't wait to hear how NYC compares!

[@rodankw]

Your Nana is delightful ! Your Dad is really coming into his own with being comfortable filming !! Jacob, is of course, still quite the treat. Let's not forget your always delightful mom. Nice that she and your Nana were able to see each other. So, NYC..........my favorite city, too. And I understand all the points you made. While it may be perfect for your brother, at this point in his life, I think you two are correct in your rating it for yourselves. Oh, and your color/wardrobe person (thailand??) needs applause..........you both have chosen some incredible new shirts that are flattering in both cut and color. Well done. As always, an absolute pleasure to be able to get a sneak peek into your world. We appreciate you both !

[@JordansAlwaysOntheGo]

For anyone that still wants that New York feel, be close to New York, but not actually live in New York..consider moving to Hoboken, NJ or Jersey City, NJ. Both really good cities to live in right now if you’re young and super quick access to busses & trains to New York!

[@dennisalexanderreilly8624]

Wow! watch Non-stop Dan's travel videos often! As someone who grew up in New York, there are tons of tips locals do to cut back on expenses. I used to think NYC was the most expensive city in the world, but now I live in SF, which can be equal if not more expensive. Great Vid!

[@Danilyn_Livao]

I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on whether it might become your new home base. Thanks for sharing this journey with us! 🗽🏙🙌🏼

[@cagenazariah]

Great, honest video fellas. My best friend has been trying to convince me to move from LA to Brooklyn for two years. I agree with everything mentioned. NYC is the quintessential metro experience everyone should see once, but living there comes with the recurring payment to hustle culture. It’s an amazing place to be affluent and flexible, but not to barely survive month to month. I’d also love to move there in my middle aged years, but right now I’m content with it being a fun yearly visit.

[@trishaemmylou]

Nana is the sweetest, she brought such a huge smile to my face 🥹🫶 Thank you for sharing your snippets of conversation with her! As an NYC born and Jersey raised local, I also want to recommend either North Jersey or Long Island if ya'll really want a more suburban feel while staying around these parts. You're able to enjoy a neighborhood feel while being a short commute away from the city (and benefit from having three huge airports to choose from)! Can't wait to see Korea trip footage, safe travels as always 💕

[@ShogunZIlla]

Take the LIRR to Jamaica & transfer to the air train, way better than the subway for JFK. I loved growing up in NYC but I ended up moving to Japan for better rent, healthcare & safety. I’ll always miss the food and especially the pizza!!

[@kricken2003]

Excited to see where you boys end up!!

[@tallerthanevry1]

I live in NYC, and I do have comments, but I'll try to minimize. First, the cost of living isn't bad; NYC is all about compromises when it comes to living here. I have a rent stabilized apartment in Harlem and only pay $2400 for a 2 bedroom 1 bath. I'm on an express stop, too, so it only takes 10 mins to get to Columbus Circle. Previously had a 1 bedroom in the Bronx that was also rent stabilized for $1557 a month. So if you're willing to compromise, you can make NYC affordable. I would also say as a tourist you're spending $100 a day on food, if you had access to a kitchen you could easily get that cost down. I spend about $500 on groceries each month. My expenses with my partner are about $2k each, and we manage to save 50-60% of our paychecks. I would also disagree about the proximity to nature. NYC may be a concrete jungle, but it has plenty of access to public transportation, and you could easily take a day trip from Grand Central to Hudson Valley. The same could also be said for proximity to airports; we have LIRR and NJ transit to get you to JFK and EWR, and there is an SBS 60 bus to LGA. When it comes to safety, just keep your head down and people won't bother you. The police presence outside the trump hotel would be much larger as compared to any other hotel because it's owned by a former US president. NYC is different to other cities, and I'm not sure if it's really fair to make a score based on being here as a tourist staying in a hotel for a 1-week period, to really get to know NYC, you need to spend a minimum of 3-6 months to really understand and see what it has to offer.

[@Myraisins1]

Agreed! Rent by far is the most challenging in nyc. For everything else there is a range. For example, there are high end restaurants and cheaper local spots. I also have a large two bedroom in Bklyn for $2200. It's an old prewar with a separate eat in kitchen, separate dining, separate living room and backyard. Yes it's 40 mins to center Manhattan. There is no door man, or central air, or dishwasher. But I have an old clawfoot tub! I spend $250 on groceries. $175 for utilities. Unlimited metro. Yes taking an uber to the airport has gone up significantly but if one were to go back to calling a private car company it's much cheaper. Overall, like anywhere else, NYC is not for everyone and it really depends on what one is looking for.

[@daretoder]

1000% agree to all you said…this video so does not represent the reality of life in NYC. This seems way too opinionated from overly sheltered men. I have lived in Manhattan for 20 years and so much of this is exaggerated and simply not true. To live in New York you do have to have thick skin but we also all live among each other in the most fascinating way, better than any other spot in the USA.

[@mauiguy6710]

Know NYC very well. Long time friends live 2 blocks from Lincoln Center and had to visit for work frequently for years. We love to visit but would never live there. It’s a definite life style choice. Grandma is a STAR ⭐️!!! And Dan’s brother is a QT!! See it runs in the family 😉. ❤️🌈

[@Ke11yyy]

I admire you guys for keeping your options open and exploring so many different places. As an American with no ties to any other countries, I feel like if I had the opportunity to go somewhere else like Europe I'd be hard-pressed not to take it. Of course, every country has its issues, but with America, the gun violence, lack of single-payer healthcare, and how far right our political system has moved are just such huge things that I would push me to choose someplace else.

[@AndresDaniel85]

Hah you walked right by my apartment on 47th street in this video! UT 47 is my local coffee shop and their food is the best! The owners are two women who are the sweetest. Been here for 14 years and NYC is home :)

[@OskarandDan]

UT47 is phenomenal🙌🏼

[@AshleyOliviaDaCosta]

I loved the shot of the GIANT H&M in the background when you were talking about the swedish church, LOL. NYC has lots of great swedish things. I live in europe now but miss NYC for the food diversity. Best place for Nonstop Dan Dan noodles!

[@thejamesrutterblog4352]

Love this video, and like others have said, I think New York clearly brings out a warm energy in both of you. That said, as one half of a gay couple in our late 20s/early 30s who have lived here for 6 years, there are few points I think you should reconsider. First is airport connectivity-you left out the LIRR connection from Penn Station to JFK’s airtrain. This is easily the quickest and most comfortable way to get there from Manhattan, and while more expensive than the subway, it’s relatively comparable to other mega cities (thinking of the Heathrow Express in London). Next up cost of living, you really need to spend some time checking out some of the adorable neighborhoods in Brooklyn & Queens. You two are obviously good at doing your research, so I have no doubt you could find what you’re looking for at a reasonable (for NYC) price. My partner and I both make decent salaries, but we’re by no means wealthy. We spend less than a third of our income on rent (and live in a modern elevator building in Brooklyn - and it’s not even an elusive rent stabilized building). We go out and enjoy the city most weekends and have been to Europe several this year. Point is, it is possible to get good bang for your buck here, it just requires a bit of work/research. And lastly, on raising a family-my partner and I are both so excited by the prospect of raising kids here. Yes, US healthcare sucks, but that aside, many of the public schools are great (as Dan’s dad mentioned), and-as you yourselves mentioned-NYC kids are so wonderfully exposed to other cultures and a diversity of lifestyles from such a young age here. As someone who grew up in an extremely monocultured suburb, I wish I would have learned to be more open to the world earlier in life, and I know my kids will get that opportunity here. Plus, no one will blink twice when they say “my Dads” at school. Just some food for thought. Love your videos!

[@kricken2003]

Your Granny is a real corker, lovely woman! Cherish her Dan, it's a special relationship as your well aware.

[@hundredpercentgp]

Your comment at the end - about NYC being a place for people who make it their life mission to live in NYC - really put into words something I've been struggling to describe for quite a while! I love visiting, but unless I get a great job that can only be done there, it really doesn't make sense to move. If you (or anyone reading this) haven't visited Chicago, I'd definitely recommend it - you get most of what NYC offers at a fraction of the cost, and the downtown core/North Side are generally as safe/pleasant as you can get in a US city! (The crime is unfortunately high but generally very localized to certain areas.) It's maybe lacking compared to some of the best cities worldwide, but definitely a great middle choice for America.

[@newbies1]

Chicago is nowhere near the level of New York. The cost of housing in Chicago isn't even in the top 10 for the US. No one actually wants to live there except people from the Midwest who think Chicago is a "major city".

[@kayflip2233]

I'm a New Yorker but work in London in finance and I prefer London as the best city in the world. I like the more human scale, beauty, diversity, safety, convenience, elegance, politeness, markets, food, parks and variety of activities in London. I also like the quick access to EMEA for weekend trips and direct flights to Bangkok and NYC. I would rate Bangkok as my next preferred city due to the food, safety, beauty, buzz, culture, access to paradise islands and hub for Asia. Then I would rate NYC 3rd. Those 3 are definitely my favorite and where I could see living for several years.

[@OskarandDan]

NYC, LDN, and BKK, what a trinity🥹🙏🏼

[@mukkaar]

London is definitely place to be if you want to travel. Especially flights to rest of Europe are super cheap.

[@YouTuber-vy7hq]

Every violent incident I’ve experienced in my life has been in the UK.. I don’t know how often you get out in London but there’s a lot of crime there.

[@kayflip2233]

@@KZbinr-vy7hq Yeah, there have been a lot of thieves stealing phones and luxury goods lately. I would say even more than NYC. However, America is far worse for homicides and violent crimes statistically. London wouldn't even be in the top 100 worst cities in the US for the homicide rate per 100,000 people. London's homicide rate has been around 1.4 over the last 10 years, which is very low compared to the worst 100 cities in the US. New Orleans had a rate of 27.1 last year for example. I think Brits get a skewed perception of what constitutes a bad city because for Europe, London may be bad, but for the Americas, it would be one of the safest big cities (top 1%) in the entire Western Hemisphere.

[@ninettemurk7492]

@@kayflip2233 They mostly don't have guns in London, that helps ;-)

[@oscarrobles-bp6zf]

your review is right on! live in Austin and visit NY twice a year and happy with that. Could not live there. Good luck on your quest for a home base.

[@OskarandDan]

Thank you so much!!😍

[@davidburrow5895]

LIRR is easily the best option to JFK. It connects directly with the AirTrain at Jamaica. It's both quicker and cheaper than taking a cab into Manhattan.

[@ernieweller3460]

Or maybe fly in and out of EWR; Newark is connected by monorail to the Northeast Corridor train that will drop you at Penn Station

[@adamingleton8529]

Good to see this video about New York ! crazy costs and crazy tipping culture

[@kricken2003]

So good to see you lads back on KZbin!!!!

[@sarinjo01]

Loved this episode! It might be your best video. Such a great energy.

[@QV_Travels]

Awesome video as always! you guys inspire us! 🙌🌍✈

[@bradbel]

Minneapolis! Total family acceptance, close to nature and low(er) cost of living.

[@TheStallion234]

This video makes me miss living in New York City. Lived there for 10 years and now in the NYC suburbs so still get to go in for work, but there’s nothing like living there.

[@davidrice6724]

I've been living in Manhattan for over 25 years, and you two know more of where to go than I do!😂😅

[@youngaries8]

I grew up in NY and vowed to never leave, even though we were in a low income neighborhood with high crime (East New York). The truth is that there are so many opportunities in NYC: career-wise, relationships-wise, food-wise, activities-wise. It's not as much of a fight as you think. I graduated from a public high school, found a job right away, and moved to Manhattan. Climbed the ranks at this company before moving to a bank. Companies tend to pay $30-50k more in NY (and other states like CA). This helps with the high rents and taxes. Food is rarely $100/day here. You can easily eat well here for $10/day and there is amazing, cheap food everywhere. One of my regular dinner meals is from a nearby halal cart, which is $8/box and is enough for 2 meals. Super flavorful and the best halal in town. Another is a taco truck that is still $9 for 3 tacos, and keep in mind these food trucks have doubled prices in the past few years. We used to be able to find tamales for $1-2/each. Most cities don't have this level of variety.

[@babs546]

As a non English speaker, I’m in awe at Oskar’s English.

[@lesrunmore]

Hi Guys! A "short" walk from Spicy Moon is a place called Dirt Candy. Next time you are in NYC go there! Vegan tasting menu that is out of this world!!

[@OskarandDan]

Thank you for the rec!!😍

[@christiegordon5835]

Great Video. Makes me want to visit New York again. You should try Minneapolis - good art scene, theater and nature all in the city. Maybe a good time to travel in the winter though☃

[@tenor714]

If you’re interested: The Flea Market you stumbled upon is called the Broadway Flea Market and is an annual event that raises funds for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights Aids. They do amazing work! Also: TKTS is typically pronounced saying the actual letters rather than the word. AND as far as Broadway grosses are concerned a 90% occupancy may sound impressive but they don’t report out on just how many of those tickets were sold at a discount so the show could seemingly “look” successful but close because the receipts are just not there.

[@JoyfulOne468]

Omg I'm halfway through and I'm in love with Nana!

[@eddie_d1233]

Born and raised here and generally loved this wonderful view of the city. New York is more than Manhattan. As for nature, Long Island has some of the most beautiful beaches in the world (yes) with really easy on the feet sand. We're close to wonderful Hudson River valley with (small) mountains and lovely towns. Culturally there are enough museums, many world class to keep you busy for weeks. Cuisine is second to none, anywhere. Despite what you think the subways are open 24 hours a day and while they may not be as clean as say in Vienna, they can get you to where you want to be. Also most people in any city don't go to as many restaurants and shows as you record here. Speaking of shows, off-Broadway and off, off Broadway are a world you haven't explored with world class actors working there butts off. It's expensive but for what you get I choose to live here. Listen more to your Grandma and dad. Thanks for a great video.

[@zidvicious6047]

Flying there this week! Definitely checking out some of the spots you mention here. ❤

[@terrishirley2258]

Love your Nana ♥️ She needs her own KZbin channel.

[@lorraine725]

Great video I did give you the nyc attitude when you gave the scores haha but I totally understand. Maybe you could consider NJ, CT or Westchester nyc all beautiful places.

[@BreakBucket]

Hi Dan, I just wanted to say how much I admire you both. You’re truly the most polite and wonderful couple I’ve ever seen. You might consider visiting Montreal-it could be a great place to settle down. The housing market here is still more affordable than in many other parts of Canada. Wishing you both all the best in your future endeavors. Lots of love from Montreal 🇨🇦 ❤ 💕💗💖💝

[@ninettemurk7492]

The winter weather though

[@BreakBucket]

@@ninettemurk7492 yes but the summer is nice. I don't personally mind winter as I love to enjoy winter sports and other winter activities but I know it's not for everyone.

[@OskarandDan]

Wow, thank you❤️ We really appreciate this!

[@joshuaevans7090]

Great video. Excited to see where you go next (London has to be an option right?)

[@OskarandDan]

London is on the list!😉

[@londresderryaer7203]

Fantastic tour.of the city. Interesting to see Dan listening to Oscar. I think that it would be important to return to Scotland in January before giving it the thumbs up.

[@williamdfr1715]

Your grandma seems to be adorable. No wonder you've turned out to be such a fine young man

[@erikgjerstad9974]

What a fun video!

[@BigWonderlust]

You have to leave New York to fall in love with New York. Your Nana has that NYC mentality and alertness.

[@FlyWithVeiga]

My bros are back! We missed you guys 🥲

[@karoline.lipp37]

The way your grandma said “I’m walking here” was very NY 😂

[@AM-dz2sh]

The West End in London is superior to Broadway.. in my opinion! And cheaper, which doesn't hurt.

[@abitnajs9479]

I could not agree more. if you have money, like a lot of money its great. If not, just move somewhere else.

[@ThomasLiljeruhm]

Would you consider living close to New York, like in New Jersey or a bit further from the city?

[@Thetattedcat]

Such a great video ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@liionqueen0813]

I love you grandma ❤

[@xxrowtrave23xx]

I visited New York last month for the first time as an adult. Was there for 8 days. Based from my experience I'd say its a fairy safe city to be in compared to others in the US. I've been to most neighborhoods in Manhattan (including Harlem), and some in Brooklyn and Queens. Nothing out of the ordinary in terms of the safety besides some homeless people, but if you don't bother them, they won't bother you. But yeah the cost of living is crazy expensive.

[@seanolinger1340]

Take a look at Peoria, IL! City life with the benefits of country life. (Relatively) decent rail travel options and 30 minute flights to Chicago. Great cost of living and a good place to raise a family

[@ThomasCummiskey]

Good points about NYC. Nice to visit, but live elsewhere.

[@laffietaffie]

"How old are you?" "59." The way I cackled 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@OskarandDan]

Nana's an icon😂🙌🏼

[@MusicAvi8Tr]

Grandma is sharp! ❤ Gent’s NY is where it’s at! Brooklyn suites you But we really need to UP for pizza game!

[@kbtravelingaround]

To get to the airports take the LIRR to JFK or New Jersey Transit trains to Newark. Easy sneezy.

[@iandingle3640]

Great review of New York!

[@cinema104]

I needed that.

[@RoseGarden86]

So funny when Oscar said it's late night pizza after the show and it was 9pm. My husband and I are in our late 30 and 9pm is late night for us as well 😂

[@OskarandDan]

Being outdoors after 8 pm?!😂

[@mattball2700]

Book of Mormon is beyond great. Seen it in LA and 2x here in Tucson. (OTOH, we also loved Hamilton, but we had listened to the soundtrack (many times) and read the book before)

[@kricken2003]

Your Dad is really trying to sale New York. When I brought up grand babies and how it's nice to have family nearby whilst raising children he was 100% on board for having those little ones around. 😉

[@mentonerodominicano]

"I've got two celebrities here." You better tell em Nana!

[@OskarandDan]

Our biggest supporter🥹😂🫶🏼

[@abidsalim6183]

The best part was with your grandma 😥 Guys you should buy a house to live in maybe in Sweden and buy a little flat in New york for vacation !!!

[@melw3518]

You probably also need to factor in taxes. NY has a lot of taxes - state and federal income tax, state/federal property tax, state/federal tax on goods and services etc.

[@graceybfrg]

Such a cute grandma :3

[@niclesnyc]

You should have gone to Water for Elephants on Broadway. Try to see it before it closes in December.

[@patrickmig]

Great video. Love your nana!

[@kbtravelingaround]

The “big orange”? You mean the “big apple”. Also go check out housing on the Jersey side.

[@johnsaintonge4529]

LOVE LOVE THE VIDEO, HAVE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES. MANY FAMILIAR PLACES. OSKAR IS A JEM, XOXXO

[@wintersnowowen2254]

Your point about affordability is probably right.. I live in London alone and can only save a few hundred each month after rent and bills. These types of cities are unaffordable for those without sky high salaries and/or family support. The US though has so many places to live in, if you can get by the costs of healthcare I am sure you could build a great life there.

[@dmitrychmakov9385]

NYC isn’t one of the largest cities in the world, it’s on number 49.😅

[@TheKarlslok]

The New York Public Library! I think I recognized that entrance from Ghost Busters! For some reason when I watched the movie as a swedish kid, I just presumed it was "some random old building", not the actual library! Now, some.... 30 years later I finally learned the truth! :-p

[@cdt996]

Have you thought about Upstate NY? Maybe the Hudson Valley or Albany. You can have lower cost of living, but can hop on a train and be in NYC in a few hours or less.

[@larrybxl5406]

London is way better than NYC for theatre.... and a lot less costly too

[@kimanikamuyu34]

There are a lot of random and crazy people in NYC, but they don't bother you. New Yorkers rarely bother you unless you give them a reason to. I lived there for 10 years and never had an issue.

[@corrado]

@dan... come on it's super easy to get to the airport... Take the A train and switch to the AirTrain (literally half hour to 40 min. from Manhattan) no traffic

[@stj53]

I would suggest Atlanta to you. Southern hospitality, world-class culture, food, people, climate, parks/nature, symphony, opera, music, nightlife, theatre, clubs, entertainment, shopping, a leader in civil and human rights,....and, the great bonus... Hartsfield-Jackson!! You can fly to anywhere from here! Home of our beloved Delta. Come on down. Or at least visit and pick up the groovy vibe. I'd love to watch your take on the South.

[@flysky6248]

Hi Oscar and Dan,I love New York.😊

[@BigWonderlust]

Dan is entering his beard era.

[@minethesky]

I am just going off the title right now, but I am an American living abroad and I *cannot* imagine ever again living within the USA, even if I won a huge multi-million dollar jackpot

[@rwg5387]

I love Urban Hawker. I usually stay at the Michelangelo Hotel right next door.

[@joakimholmer9744]

Great episode. I am well travelled but have never been to NY. Will visit some day. To live: the cost of living for ”normal” people doesn’t make sense to me at all 😅

[@lekinsh]

I live in NY and I feel safer in NYC than in some cities in Europe. I have had my phone pickpocketed in Europe but have I ever been pickpocketed in NYC. So maybe there are random crazy people but they don’t pickpocket phones. Try Willow, Ras and Anixi next time if you haven’t. Love love their food. I would agree the airport connection sucks. That one needs to be fixed one day. LIRR should straight into JFK and LGA or one of the subways. There was some outdated federal law that prevented the Port Authority to spend any money on linking LIRR or the subway to JFK but that’s been changed. Hence how that awful slow AirTrain came to be. LGA is so nice now that all it needs is a good subway connection.

[@LINDZOFFICIAL-zg3ku]

I love your videos guyzz🎉

[@frostyfly31122]

taxis to the airport are just crazy expensive so when i go to nyc nowadays, i always stay round penn station for easy access to the LIRR if traveling to/from JFK. u access it via jamaica station after taking the airtrain and it is easily the fastest way to get to/from the city and so much cheaper than taxis and imo safer and not as crowded compared to the subway.

[@chrismv102]

It hasn't always been so expensive. BAsically NYC has become the playground of rich.

[@Dovndyr13]

For me NYC is an amazing place, though i feel more at home in Chicago. I love the people, First time i went i stood there with a map and 4 people asked if they could help. Another time I met a guy at Staten Island zoo, the next day we met again at New York Aquarium. He invited me on lunch and to visit Prospect Park Zoo that afternoon. Another time at Bronx Zoo 2 girls asked me out on date. I doubt that would happen in Sweden or here in Denmark, so the people are amazing But yes as a Scandinavian the US helthcare sytem is shocking expensive, even if the tax isnt low (especially in Chicago)

[@QV_Travels]

Would love to visit New York one day, just not looking forward to the prices! 🌍✈️😂

[@johnindy7164]

Maybe consider a suburb of NYC instead of the city itself. NJ (surprisingly to me even) has some lovely areas, as well as Connecticut or northern NY especially along the Hudson River. Great antiquing, arts, country feeling but within 1 hour or less of Manhatten.

[@shuss-pi3me]

Based on your nitpicks with all three places so far, I think you would find Chicago great.

[@1998tkhri]

Aside from weather, New Jersey seems to fit perfectly (sorry NYers): easy access to NYC, but cheaper, safer, and easier to raise a family.

[@L-mo]

Compared to the UK the weather in New York is much more PREDICABLE. You know you will get a summer and you know which months - even which weeks - it will be hot/nice/cold/icy etc. You never know in the UK if you will have a hot summer - or a cold winter. You pretty much can't plan anything outside. I've lived in NYC and London.

[@ceriosborne394]

Vancouver, British Columbia Canada or Vancouver Island. Most definitely Montreal or Quebec City and try to give Toronto more time.