OSSIARCH BONEREAPERS INDEX: In-Depth Review AoS 4.0

[@BuffShamansplz]

Out of my 6 armies the OBR index is the one that felt the most gutted. I loved healing in the previous book and the decision paths. Now it's more of a wierd destruction/s2d army that's based around auras, but also not really since Nagash or Katakros makes the bubble large enough that you can keep everything in and focus on out trading, and if you don't run those two, then you're running a list that has never gotten a 5-0.

[@strategoi]

Hey BuffShaman, Ryan here...and thanks for the comment! What are your other 5 armies? Yeah, an army getting a 5-0 has never really been my measuring stick for how good a unit is...I feel like that's much more determined by what you're up against in the meta, which often (due to GW not knowing how to balance things) ends up being broken gatekeepers that discourage trying anything but the things that can deal with them. As a listbuilding guy at heart, that's always been my least favorite way of writing lists, but I get it. I do wonder though if Nagash is still a 5-0 unit after all the changes since the initial index. What're your thoughts?

[@Rerisham]

Love this video guys. OBR are one of the best aesthetically designed units in all of AoS for me IMHO. Love them so much - but, that being said, I do have some annoyances about how *conservative* they are with OBR in 4.0. I only came to OBR in late 3rd, so I'm hardly an SME on the subject, but I loved the primary brick I ran of 4 mortek guard (2 swords and 2 spears, spears behind swords to abuse melee range back in 3.0) and then two harvesters. Split them right in half to have a mobile front line with Gothizzar havester support in recursion, some small shooting, and shockingly good melee that most people slept on. Nowadays, I feel punished for wanting my mortek guards. The harvesters really feel bad to use. Nowadays I just want to run as many horsemen as possible with the Kavalos & Zandtos + Arkhan. Maybe also run the Archai, but it really feels like a different army. Despite all my whining, I got the terrain (Despite it being a meme, it looks rad) and the awesome endless spells, so I'm super into the faction still, and delighted to see more content for OBR, so I wanted to engage with the video more than just liking and watching. All the very best to all of you at Strategoi!

[@ryanburruss]

Yo Rerisham! Thanks for checking out the video and for your thoughts on the overlooked units! Def agree it would be nice to see the Guard and Harvesters get some love, and not just points drops!

[@christianjohansson7185]

I am learning quite a lot. Friend of mine is starting a OBR army, and I'll makr sure to send this his way. Also, my dumb brain keep autocorrecting the knights to kabanoss 😅

[@strategoi]

Haha, there are worse corrections 😁😁

[@kennypalmer8971]

Thank you for getting to a death army. Now you need to hit FEC and SBGL! :D Definitely hit orruk warclans after their book drops, I think there are a lot of anxious orruk players out there that would like to see some in depth analysis on the faction since it's been off to such a rocky start this edition in their index phase.

[@strategoi]

I'm tempted to pick up my Soulblight again, so we might get to them eventually! Stay tuned

[@kennypalmer8971]

@@strategoiAwesome! With the rumors surrounding the new soulblight stuff coming out, I’m curious to see what is going to happen with their book

[@Firstbloodchill]

I would love to to see you analyze FEC, i don't see alot of coverage of them post-index.

[@ryanburruss]

Thanks for the comment and for checking out the video! Would def be fun to get to FEC, but we prefer to not talk about the factions unless one of us has had some legitimate playtime with the army to help inform our opinions, and unfortunately FEC isn’t an army we’ve (thus far) committed to. We’ll def keep an eye out for a good opportunity to bring you some solid FEC content though!

[@Malisteen]

I hate all the anti-synergies that Mortek Guard have to deal with these days. They used to be the kings of synergy, but now their shield wall negates Katakros's armor bonus, and their anti-charge rule renders what should be the most on-theme relentless discipline ability for them redundant. Very frustrating. Stalkers also feel like they've really lost a step between only -1 ap and not having the extra charge ability. Otherwise I'm mostly ok with the index? I know some obr players complain about the new rd rules making units stick near their heroes where before it was part of obr fluff to be more independent, but I like the way it encourages more regimented formations. Maybe in the battletome we could get a change where RD is usable by any unit, and if a hero uses it its a bubble like current but if a non-hero uses it then it only affects that unit? Keep the encouragement to formations while allowing the previous independence where needed?

[@pancakekraken876]

they know everyone already bought morteks and stalkers soo...

[@strategoi]

Hey Malisteen! Ryan here. Sorry for the delay in getting back to this comment. I feel like that change to RD, where units could use it but only for themselves, is def an interesting direction. Personally I'm hoping we don't get our Battletome until next year (2026) so that GW has some time to stop copy/pasting everything out of the index and start innovating again. Curious as to your thoughts on Stalkers now with the points reductions...

[@SimonsafSimonsaf]

after lisen to this ! skaven sound like they got fuckt over in version 4 ! bone reapers ca deal so mutch dammage and with rent 4 agans boss or monster or just rent 3 and deying ability to use ward save ! skarbrand ! say god night sir ! sins everey time i role the 20 dice ! 16 wound as normal ! do to 2to hit and 2 to wound and with explolding 6 that can becom exploding 5 ! cant wait to play bone reapers again !

[@strategoi]

Thanks for the comment Simonsaf! Ryan here. Curious what it is about Skaven that you're feeling got so screwed over. I am a huge Skaven fan and agree that many units just can't compete in the current meta, but curious about your thoughts!