osu! Why you might not be improving/Common things people do that cause them not to improve

[@VelocityFTW]

To the people misunderstanding what im saying and just leaving hate, you really aren't getting the message here. These are things as to why you might not be improving, if you are improving then this video isn't for you. I see a lot of butt hurt mouse players and im puzzled as no where in the video did i say to not use mouse, im actually for mouse play. Just remember, mouse can everything, but you probably can't ;3( the same goes for tablet players) With membrane its personal preference, but reds and browns are leagues faster than any membrane i have used, and they're more stable for the most part. Im willing to make a full on video just comparing them if its needed. At the end of the day ppl use what you want, there is no wrong to play, however these are things that can cause issues with some people, thats all this video was for.. (Also to the people that are justifying their play style, re read the title ;3) Please participate in the poll linked below, im quite interested in what the majority of the community uses.. strawpoll.com/easasawh

[@Tenebris8444]

VelocityFTW honestly don’t know why you would be getting flak for this at all, when they are true.

[@mahologic7598]

VelocityFTW thanks for do this video at all... I think I can improve in maybe 6 month (yeah... 6 digit yet). Also something I can add for your explanation is for getting used to only 1 type of skin until you use mods, because if you are changing a lot you will be overcharged and lost concentration. Maybe can you talk about types of skins someday? Oh, in the keyboard I’ll choose mechanic because of the durability and speed. In quickly maps the membrane it’s difficult to manage, but with some mechanic you’ll get used to that map faster (I use mx red, idk if is suitable for all) Thanks again :3

[@dezmynsmith3916]

do u still have a xbox 360 so i can use the infections for mw3?

[@chuck_norris]

3:13 Not eve true... btw your audio quality succs

[@Faltri]

Well, tbh, people are usually gonna be bias for one thing and its normal for them to act up when they get offended. I am a mouse player and what you said was right, I think its not only mouse that may bring you down but also vice versa (tablet). Its possible for someone to play better on mouse than on tablet too. Good video, I had no troubles improving before watching the video but I clicked on it because it was a video from you.

[@shiny_birb2678]

this guy's mic gives me the feeling of only hearing him in one ear, but I can hear him in both

[@tree7115]

SAME LULW

[@balllord8580]

I know right wtf

[@n0x823]

same

[@ultimategoku4767]

Same lol

[@HaVoCX64]

My osu! Setup 1$ mouse 2$ membrane keyboard And RSI

[@FrikiArmy]

Dr. HavocX Playing osu! Without a screen? Now that's badass.

[@gamey1346]

the screen takes your focus

[@ciel1486]

I play on a 5 inch phone wtf

[@stormkid4]

Your average touhou fan wait what?

[@adr5612]

Samuel Hippolyte they're probably using opsu

[@xMortalBlade]

''if you're playing once a month,you won't improve'' there are several moments when i haven't played for a long time but when i come back i suddenly play maps that i never was able to pass

[@enz297]

Funny same happens to me xD

[@javier101lol]

Same,i seriously dont know why it happens

[@AWESOMEDUDE2311]

breaks r gud

[@luzberrizbeitia26]

xMortalBlade it's like your brains get used to it by resting for a while? Idk but it happens to me too

[@psychdesigns731]

taking short breaks tends to be good for me, about a couple of days

[@walrusdragonclips9949]

"get a mechanical keyboard" "get a tablet" Money: 0

[@saur1232]

(cries in broke)

[@silvadalinumdor21]

Same here. I'm broke so i can't afford a tablet let alone a Mechanical keyboard.

[@qLeila]

I don't think you need it, mouse works pretty well as long as you don't have a 2008 mouse it'll be find

[@altaccount9407]

I have a mechanical keyboard but I play on a laptop which has a membrane keyboard built in. I dont think I can use a mechanical keyboard unless I put it on top of the built in membrane keyboard of the laptop but that blocks some of my view :(((. (I got a mechanical keyboard since its supposed to be used on my desktop/pc though it is too old that osu isnt compatible)

[@Sqrawe]

I have mechanical but I can't get tablet sadge

[@imoakley5943]

"First thing you wanna do is to stop using mods" *entire profile is filled with HD plays* WELL SHI-

[@roridev]

HD is how I see game. And I can read ar10 so dunno

[@kobbytfg1222]

my pf is full of HDDT and HDHR low star plays ;-; , I learned too early what farm was, In fact, I used to play on my smartphone(Opsu and Osu!Droid) and my friends where playing on pc, so when I got my pc I just kinda rushed to learn and get to them, I FC 5-6☆ on Phone, but pc wasn't the same thing, so yeah, bad acc account, full of farms and can't play nomod correctly = Blocked

[@roridev]

i'm using a membrane keyboard that ghosts every 5th key. being a hell to do anything past 4*. any stream that's bigger that 5 hc i die.

[@kohimame]

I always use HD because it looks cleaner when compared to the cluttered nomod(for reference, this is for more dense maps), and it lowers input lag for me. The thing is, I can't aim streams. I can stream, but I can't track the stream :( And then I try nomod, suddenly I can't read anything So I end up playing 1-2 jump maps, all day everyday haha

[@lightpulp1144]

don't mock playstyles: mocks membrane keyboard users mocks mouse players

[@elijahren]

Man… that’s me

[@BurningFlare]

tfw all of your top plays are hr

[@Kyoko1]

tfw all your top plays are farm maps and you didn't even mean to

[@aquivery588]

Tfw all of your top plays are dt

[@quaque19]

he doesnt want you to know his farming techniques no noone can farm more than he does

[@djennwn2nr]

If you really want to enjoy the game just ignore this video, play what you enjoy

[@totalbrootal]

i feel like the main thing that has halted my improvement is always playing above what i probably should. playing things i can pass but have no chance of fc'ing or getting good acc. i have basically no clutch ability. Also I seem to have the opposite problem most noobs have. i almost never retry songs over and over, so i never grind anything out

[@scabbardo5926]

I'm basically the opposite lmao. I play songs I have to use NF on or I'd fail, but I've improved quite a lot from doing so. Kinda shows how different people are.

[@jacklope79]

what, you need to retry songs.. also same with me, playing like 6*(70-80%) or 5* (80-86%)

[@Ktotokroto]

But retrying songs is too boring..

[@jacklope79]

i actually improved from retrying, now i do like low 6* 80% and low and mid 5* 86%+

[@fxkatsukiyoutube5334]

im literally the exact same lol, but i try to fc some maps, but im still a noob and can only fc 4 stars :) i have like 60 hrs play time

[@YukiMurakumo]

I just got into the video and there's already something I disagree with. THIS IS A LONG ASS COMMENT WHOOPS. Let me preface this by saying I respect your opinion, but I heavily disagree with it at certain points. ____________________ >don't touch mods until 20k I've been using mods on and off since 7 digits. Rank means nothing if you can beat every unranked 7* map because you'll be 7(8?) digits at 0pp, even if you can play at a top 100 level. Mods are all about how comfortable you are reading the map you're currently working on (be it an FC, better accuracy, or just a pass) While I don't suggest trying a brand new map with mods, this rule is absolutely pointless. Rank is not a measure of skill, it's just a visible measure of achievement. On top of that, some maps have a note density that is just near impossible to read for a lot of mid-range (4-6 digit) players just can't deal with, so something like HD could help them, as it removes the note you're about to hit and makes you focus on timing, and where to position yourself after the fact. I personally don't play a map with HR if it's going to bump the AR past 9.5, OD past 8, or the CS past 6. That's just my personal boundary, because I currently don't have the aim skill, or reaction speed to do either of those efficiently. If the map comes standard with any of them, I'll likely attempt it, but if I have a choice in the matter, I avoid it. Personal gripe with old maps having those values cranked up pointlessly for the sake of difficulty. That's the kind of thing you have to deal with, though. Knowing your comfort level and practicing slightly outside of it. Don't just set a boundary of "I refuse to play modded until x rank" because a lot of the time you'll have to play so many maps to hit that rank, that just adding mods to the maps you're comfortable with will save you time getting there to begin with. Besides, low-diff (2.5-4.5*) maps are generally more fun with mods if you understand how the mod works, and are also more rewarding. (Personal opinions lol) _______ >A lot of people who are high 5 digit/low 6 digit can't read anything Relax kills aim and tapping coordination This, I partially agree with. Very heavily partial, because this is only the case if you either abuse RX (use it on everything) or just don't use it to the right effect. Certain maps have very awkward patterns, or weak audio-hitsound volume ratios. This can make learning the beat of a particular tech section quite difficult. If you're having trouble learning the tech, you can use RX to help you get an idea of what pattern you need to tap to pass that spot, on top of improving your aim without having to focus on tapping. RXHD is a nice intro to hidden, if you're fine with rhythm but your aim is lacking. That's really the only thing I can say about RX personally, because that's all I use it for, and I have yet to have issues with my tapping/aim coordination, except for on long S rank chokes where my aim hand decides "I really don't want to miss that next note" and decides to fly out of rhythm, which would cause me to miss on RX anyway. --------- >Copying/mocking top players gets you nowhere Ah, this is one point I absolutely love. Completely agree with it, minus the bit about keyspacing. Of course, pinky and thumb tapping is absolutely retarded, so I wouldn't go that far, but look at someone like BeasttrollMC. He taps with index and ring, his A/D fingers in an FPS. I do the same, it's a habit I picked up from nearly 5 digit (10 thousand) hours in FPS and MMO games. That's just coincidental, though, and I covered that point further down. Correlation does not imply causation. Does the phrase "mouse can anything" ring a bell to you? Cookiezi is one of the most well-regarded players in the osu!community, correct? He plays with a tablet, so you'd think most 6/7 digit players think "I'm not getting better because I'm not using a tablet, it makes the game easier". Try telling them that Cookiezi can nearly FC (2 misses and an SB, I'm pretty sure) Image Material with HD, with a mouse. Try telling them that angelsim, also known as "firebat92", is known as one of the best players in the community (albeit a bit childish given recent events, but that's a different topic), as well as being known as one of the best mouse players? Your tablet means nothing. There's no soft cap on the skill because you're using a mouse. Stop telling yourself that. While you may notice a personal improvement with playing on a tablet versus a mouse, that's purely anecdotal. Cookiezi play: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppLQlGZmfsmGoK8 Copying someone's playstyle will not get you anywhere unless your playstyle is somehow identical, which I can almost guarantee that with nearly 12 million players, there's bound to be a 7 digit with Cookiezi's "curl my pinky into the density of a black hole" hand position. He's not 7 digits because of his playstyle, he's 7 digits because of his skill level. This also goes for the tablet grips (hover/drag/hybrid tap) as well as mouse positioning (claw, palm, etc). One might cause you cramps and shitmisses, while the other gets you an HDHR Remote Control FC. The opposite could be true for your friend. To recap on this point, tl;dr Mouse Can Anything. Alternating Can Anything. Singletapping (as long as you don't singletap high BPM 1/16 streams you freak (looking at you , fils)) Can Anything. Your playstyle is yours, and no one else's. -------- >Don't be a membrane warrior I semi agree with this, on the basis of personal preference. Yes, mechanical keyboards offer a more tactile "clicky" response to your tapping, but by no means is there a softcap to skill with players who use membrane keyboards. I personally prefer the mechanical keyboards because of the sound it makes when you type quickly (Kreygasm) and because I can hear whether or not I'm overstreaming, similar to playing guitar hero and over/understrumming. Some players on the other hand, prefer membrane keyboards because of the lack of a tactile response. They might find the clicking sound annoying, or distracting from the beat of the song. That being said, by no means are they worse players. But if they're being little hipster shits saying "I'm only a lower rank than you because I use a membrane keyboard", point them to Yaong. He'll shut them up double-quick. He's not the best player in the world as per ranking, but he's definitely one of the best membrane players, and he recently streamed using a mechanical keyboard to prove that there's no difference. (Whether or not that was his intention is beyond me, but I believe he did a pretty good job of reaffirming that point). ---------- >Don't dance around with sensitivity/DPI/Tablet Area Again, something I can agree with. You're not cookiezi, you don't need to change your skin/tablet area 3 times a day or whatever the fuck he does. He does this (as far as I've heard) because of RSI. He quit osu originally because of RSI (again, as far as I'm aware, this may be a rumor that got out of hand) and even if that's not true, I do believe that changing your tablet area can help with RSI, but so can basic stretches. As OP said, "just find an area/DPI you're comfortable with, one you can make squares easily with, and stick with it". You'll get better eventually. This game isn't about your variety as a player, but your consistency in your playstyle. You could play with your damn tablet pen attached to the "For BIG Mistakes" eraser for all I know. If you're top 100 doing that, then good on you. You're a freak, but I commend you. ---------- >Consistency is key. Aye, this one hits home. As I may or may not have said earlier (this took me a while to type lol), my PP has tripled since I got back into the game consistently. I was a stagnant 400 PP player back in january because I would play for 10 minutes, then quit for a week because my wrists would crack and hurt, along with my back (Poor posture, "practicing the wrong way"). Once I found my playstyle and sensitivity in my mouse, I got my first 50, 60, 70, etc, all the way up to 118 PP top plays. I was on a fire streak, and I had no idea why. It was because, since 2012, I had been practicing mistakes. I wasn't moving my wrist enough, I would dig it into my desk during tense moments where I was afraid to choke. I slumped in my chair to the point that you'd think my ass was a foot up my back. I was trying too hard to change to an alternating player as a concrete single tapper. Tl;dr this game is 10% preference, 70% consistency and 20% "don't get RSI you idiot". --- God I love this game. PS: Cute acc owo

[@scrubsodium]

Agreed to this dude upvoted. Love the 20%.

[@YukiMurakumo]

Honestly, RSI was most of the reason I, and a few people who I introduced to the game, got discouraged. "My wrist hurts only a few songs in and I can't focus properly" "Are you digging it into the desk?" "Probably yeah, I get tense and my muscles seize" "Try breathing. You're human, humans like breathing." If you look at a fairly high level (

[@autumnaxiom5910]

Amazing. I agree with everything said here.

[@licane1158]

120k teaching you how to play omegalul.

[@kobato414]

Hold up... Did you just say "I don't play HR if it bumps the AR up past 9.5"? That makes no sense as everything above AR6.5 with HR is AR>9.5 If this really is the case it would mean you are playing either low AR meme maps such as oddloop or you are only playing 2* maps and have no idea what you are actually talking about.

[@Syneergy]

basically the whole video was to analyse your weaknesses and improve on them lol

[@Syneergy]

oof, that love heart made me to be gay, xD i am joking, nice video :*

[@creame3361]

you sure about that?

[@Syneergy]

no

[@poffusagi2658]

My weakness was BaF (Back and Forth) jumps and still struggling to improve those. :

[@Syneergy]

my weakness is my left hand middle finger tendon i cant bend my finger because my tendon is burnt from thsoe long stream practice maps, but eventually it will heal owo

[@GFXCharkk]

Mouse is a good playstyle. I only have problems reading or tapping.

[@racoolpro]

Im just gettimg worse for no reason, I used to play even 7 star maps, now I cant even FC a 5 star and I feel so bad

[@ezu4206]

3:34 after 2 yrs im 7.7kpp and for like a whole year i kept changing area.. but now finally i found the perf one and i already beat my top play(farm btw). One tip if ur hand is like so shaky cause of small area, dont jump straight to big one cause it wont help. You need to increase it with time, like every 2-3 days of playing just a tiny bit, and one day u will say that it's comfortable that u dont have to either enlarge it or make it smaller.

[@ateela15]

When i first started years ago, the game was not as fleshed out and you didn't really know the ar or difficulty of the map you were playing. Therefore i was constantly playing maps way above my skill causing me to spam keys. This spamming habit didn't go away until i took a break from the game and came back. I chose to relearn proper habits. If i can't read a combo, i wont spam it. I will keep playing until my reading skill rises and i can execute it like any other. The biggest tip is don't try to spam your way through the game. You will miss out on building critical reading skills.

[@luxxias]

i feel like hr is kind of an exception though as it improves aim and high ar reading but if you use it too much you’ll develop an inability to read anything lower ar. it’s best to use it when you’re playing maps that are in your comfort zone with no mod

[@GatoGabbana]

cant play anything under ar 9 now HAHA i just pre click

[@AishiMTA]

May I add that playing maps only slightly out of your comfort zone is a good way to improve, if you play maps way too far out of your comfort zone the opposite will happen

[@nomisekul4969]

mechanical keys and pens are still bloody expensive

[@FdPros]

1. play sotarks map 2. ez pp 3. fail the jumps 4. google how to git good at osu 5. play more sotarks maps

[@halcyonactual7602]

"Get a mechanical keyboard and a tablet" Me, a broke college student with only a mouse and laptop: *(⌣̩̩́_⌣̩̩̀)*

[@Loresette]

Same

[@yumoogi8346]

ngl im crying rn beacaue i dont get any imrpovements for 4 months and kept getting bad idk i should give up osu

[@madmaddox4255]

I have pretty good aim. Probably the aim of a 6-7 star but I suck at tapping in general. Idk why but I just can’t seem to tap properly

[@Kuzan0]

play demetori maps ^^

[@CM-jo7mc]

Well im opposite cause i mainly started at mania for like 2 years so i can play 5* beatmaps but not any higher than 5.4 or 5.5. I got stuck 9k rank and thought about switching to standard to try it out, it was fun and i got addicted to playing standard and now from rank 700k in just 2 weeks im at 400k tapping wasnt my main problem but what im having trouble is my aim. Btw im mouse player so maybe thats also the cause but im too poor to afford a tablet lmao

[@eddy6355]

@@CM-jo7mc You don't need a tablet to have good aim...

[@ilya7z]

Skiller stream practice maps lol. don’t play jump maps a lot and focus on high bpm maps with bursts and stacked notes. results will show after several months of hard work. im in week 2 of my stamina progression. first week: barely streaming 178bpm second week: comfortably stream 185bpm for a good minute and a half. just play more. improving stamina = getting faster (well mostly)

[@madmaddox4255]

POtaTAtoe Head I’m also a mouse player but I have a edge because if have been pc gaming for almost my whole life

[@Swordgallade12]

The only thing that really holds me back is my mentality, sometimes I will be super tilted for missing a note, and it will affect the rest of my session. On the other hand, a good mentality = better focus, consistency, and aim

[@riceymix4688]

Malaysia top 1 player literally climbed to global top 50 with an office mouse lol

[@Wuanjunior]

It has been 6 years since this video, but in case anyone else sees this now. I can say that playing mods CAN make you improve. I was stuck at my skill level for like 4 years until i played tournaments so i was forced to play with all the mods(mainly HR was the one i avoided) and then realized that i was indeed improving. (Important to note that tournament maps tends to be harder than farm maps)

[@GCAmazingBR]

Tfw you're a hipster because you don't have the money to purchase something decent ;

[@Nik420]

Bassicly to get good, you need: 244HZ monitor 100$+ keyboard 50$ for a decent tablet k

[@WaLLy_]

Played 2 years osu on a laptop with a mouse. I switched to a tablet. 2 years laters ( few weeks ago) I bought a mechanical keyboard. Honestly the keyboard helps the most, ofcourse after playing 4 years on a normal keyboard hard button mashing all the time,I really struggled to keep up with the 6, 7 star songs or long streams. I am getting used to my mechanical keyboard and I am doing maps with more ease and I'm not stressing my muscles way as much as normally. I creates these bad habbits because of my old keyboard. Im improving at a rapid rate than I havr ever done in the past 4 years.

[@CursedBeach]

Yeah I had to read the text about not using mods until you're in 20k three times to make sure I understood that right. Although in his pinned comment VelocityFTW says this video is aimed for those who feel like they are not improving, but ngl, now I'm a bit worried if my playstyle will bite me in the ass in the long run. I've thought this is how the game is played: first you FC the map with no mods, then you aim to FC it with HR and then maybe with HR and DT or HR and HD (or maybe even all three). After the maps in the current star rating range start to feel comfortable with mods, you move on the next level of difficulty. tl;dr: I haven't even thought that using mods too early would be bad, I thought they'd train me for the next star rating.

[@mammamia6509]

my playstyle is holding my mouse at a 45 degree angle at the edge of my mousepad, and I still dont know why

[@Llamanator_]

I hold mine at around a 30 degree angle for some reason, which makes some patterns alot more difficult for me. Also makes horizontal jumps harder compared to vertical ones.

[@17dirtyplatesah37]

I play with a mouse and membrane keyboard. Everyone told that a mechanical keyboard is the way to go. So I got a blue switch keyboard from Motospeed. Not the greatest brand but it works. While playing osu! I noticed that there were multiple click sound/feeling when pressing the switch. This confused me a lot. Then I switched to Ornata but same click thing happened. Then I settled for a Logitech G213 membrane keyboard. It takes the same amount of force to activate it and keys feel very good. When soft cap base pushes back up, I instantly know that. No unnecessary click in between. So membrane keyboard is not as bad as people say. As for mouse again it is not as bad as you say it is. Mouse is equal to tablet. Great tracking and grip.

[@pcb249]

my setup: logitech k345 (membrane keyboard) veikk 640s

[@heiwa8697]

Ayoo samee

[@pcb249]

@@heiwa8697 i recently got an upgrade MKA-5R mechanical keyboard by armegeddon FALCON III also by armegeddon pen broke

[@heiwa8697]

@@pcb249 Dude.... does mechanical keyboard help u hit long stream better?...

[@pcb249]

@@heiwa8697 yes because n key rollover and less effort to press a key

[@heiwa8697]

@@pcb249 holy shit....ight im getting myself a mechanical keyboard....

[@yowie7169]

Id say the majority of people playing this game are using membrane keyboards and a mouse because that's pretty much the lowest common denominator, which makes people using those things the opposite of hipsters, hipsters would use whats trendy which would be mechanical keyboards and tablets, to be fair.

[@rjeatstacos395]

king dysfunc Why are you using the term common denominator to describe the population of a osu playstyle

[@yowie7169]

RJEatsTacos Why wouldn't I? I'm trying to describe the largest part of the population and the medium they are using to play? I mean I am making some assumptions but what's wrong with the term I used?

[@rekan4277]

Eh what keyboard you use doesn't effect anything really.

[@rekan4277]

repeqt?

[@robertmarsden2961]

What speed of stream, because i know people can do 210 with membrane

[@jowsonjgong8303]

I've been playing mods since 6 digits. relax,DT,HR,HD, even flashlight. Yet i didn't stop improving. now i am a hd farmer(since 80k) yet i still can read ar8 and now 20k. Relax hurts tapping? what? since when? relax can be used for playing for fun, you can use relax and tap at the same time too there's no difference. Mods can really start at anytime, just need to get used. i never copied anybody's play style so idk. i tried index and ring once. i can stream even BETTER than index and middle. Its okay to try out difference tapping styles. ive switched from mouse only-tapX-index+middle-index+ring. now i use index+ring now stream heavy map and index+middle on jump maps. I've also gone from single tap to alt tap, the transition took less than 10 minutes. 2.3- if you can't use mouse, wouldn't it be able to one day say that you CAN use mouse? though just using it for the sake of it is dumb i agree. I've used membrane till 5 digits. you don't need mechanical to be good. In fact, changing from membrane to mechanical did NOTHING to improve my skill, it only felt more satisfying, sounded better and looked cooler. Now when i go back to membrane, my skill is almost the same (not used to membrane yet). I changed my mouse dpi from 3k-1,8k and everything in between MANY times. I've never understood why people keep saying don't change dpi too much. IT makes NO difference. i can change 30 times a day and my skill is still the same, it literally take 1 map to adapt. Though i like 1850 dpi most as that is the dpi that its fast enough that i don't need to move my mouse too much yet still controllable and not a millimeter off and i would go off the note. Its good to stick the one that you're most comfortable with though. Honestly, you just need to play 3 hours a week not to rust, anymore and it's to improve. About the playing with bad habits, HR and DT i understand the rationale but what's wrong with HD? ive been playing HD since my high 4*-low 5* days and nothings changed. I can read both hd and without HD. If you lose the ability to read without HD, it is not good. Conversely, if you only start playing HD so late into the game (20k) how are you supposed to get used to HD when you're already so accustomed to nomod? It is scientifically proven that people learn better when they are first introduced to something. So if a person at 100k stops improving for a while, it may be because he is trying to get used to HD. Similarly, when a 20k tries to get used to HD, he may also stop improving for a while as he tries to get used to HD. It's just a matter of when you learn in your whole experience of osu!

[@VelocityFTW]

The point of this is why you might not be improving, its working for you so the video is pointless. For other people some things will hurt how they play, ive seen all of these come up time and time again

[@parmesuhn4155]

calm down man

[@tastycarbonara]

someone is triggered heavily lmao

[@VelocityFTW]

You tapping with it isn’t the same, it’s why you can aim it on relax by when you try to play it you can aim but can’t tap, wanna take a guess why? It’s still aim, the only difference is the game isn’t tapping it for you. You are better off training your tapping and aiming coordination rather than one or the other..

[@ImCabbageDog]

I've been playing with a membrane keyboard since I started Osu 4 years ago :( I can notice how bad it is now, and I really want to get a mechanical keyboard asap because I think it will help a lot. (looking at the Corsair K70 Rapid-fire)

[@Sutobuto]

I like how people say index and ring is one of the "retarded" finger styles mentioned in the video when really, thats the most normal of normal, even if youre the generic index and middle user. Like, anything using the thumb and pinky is the only retarded finger playing styles

[@toonmaster777]

i see many videos talking about bad habits, but they never explain what the bad habits are.

[@eroro1363]

Is that 20 Min - Lil Uzi Vert in the background music Lit

[@SeweeTV]

I feel like I am never going to improve. Other than that, I feel like this game is not suitable for me. I am a perfectionist and that is getting in the way of my plays. 1 simple 100 ticks me off so much that I keep on restarting and restarting that I don't even get to finish the map, basically why my pp is so low.

[@SeweeTV]

@Random Me chile

[@CyberDragonis]

Random Me jeez chill man

[@ItzNo0b]

1:08 i feel attacked lmfaoo. i’ve been playing hrhd since I started and i’ve noticed progression, just not gaining ranks. i sometimes switch from hrhd to dthd on easier maps for a month or so and when i come back to hrhd i usually hit a new 4* score or something. i’ve tried nomod but i can’t read them as they feel too slow

[@Rikpro0819]

As a mediocre top 5k player I would like to add a few things: The things Velocity mentioned in the video are all true except for the mods part, for some people (like me) most maps are actually easier with HDHR than nomod, it's just a matter of preference and playstyle. Also, getting used to hidden at lower approach rates actually helps your reading a whole lot. Changing from mouse to tablet is not necessary, some people play better with a mouse, altough everyone should try using a tablet once, if they have the chance. Mechanical keyboards are always recommended though, and you can get a cheaper one for under $100 which will always perform better than a rubberdome / membrane keyboard. Mech keyboards have register inputs faster, their buttons have a larger lifespan and since there are so many different switches, you'll probably find one that suits you the best. They're also shiny and flashy which looks cool. Oh yeah, players also shouldn't push their limits TOO HARD. Playing something out of your comfort zone always helps, but playing an Akali map or Image Material / Yomi Yori (just a few examples, you get the point) as a 5-6 digit won't do you any good. Instead, if you're looking to improve at ANY level with any mod, just play maps that you can pass at or above 80% accuracy, after some time you'll definitely see improvement. If you want to learn something new use No-fail, it's not anything to be ashamed of, it's pretty much the best friend of people who want to get better.

[@scabbardo5926]

Pushing myself with hard maps like Image Material, Yomi Yori, and lots of other 7*+ maps has actually helped me improve while I was 6 digit and I still do as a 5 digit. I mostly do it for fun though, cuz I like to see just what I can do, and improve upon myself from there. Also, I should probably try out a mechanical keyboard at some point, but my laptop keyboard is good enough for now. :D Edit: Though that might be why I'm actually bad at the game? :thinking: Oh well. I have fun, and that's all that matters.

[@tormodenes9932]

I like mouse :P I bought a tablet I didn't like it, I have played with tablet in 2 months i just can't play with it

[@fanshi5302]

Tormod Enes my friend got angry and she threw away tablet.. later she realized thay kb was problem... not a tablet :/

[@tormodenes9932]

Fanshi I understand 😂

[@user-dx8nj7qj2g]

its cool if you dont like tablet, he's not saying you cant use mouse, he's saying dont use mouse for the purpose of saying you use mouse, although tablets can take up to a week or two to see improvement, if you prefer mouse, thats awesome, plenty of pros use mouse

[@loogey0375]

My only problem with a tablet is the position of the tablet. Straight, sideways, upside down, downside up. Hell I even flipped my tablet over joking lmao. Seriously though, my tablet is hard to use when I can't find that perfect angle to use my tablet. Someone send help, or, preferably memes.

[@Sahtoovi]

@@loogey0375 I've considered getting a tablet but have decided to not for one simple reason; I'm left handed but I use my mouse with my right hand and my keyboard with my left. I use a pen with my left hand. I can't spam two buttons on the keyboard with my right hand nearly as well as I can with my left. I've tried, I just can't. That basically means that either I'd have to learn to do so or I'd have to use the tablet with my right hand and I'm not comfortable with either of those solutions, so I keep using mouse/kb.

[@the_ball_man]

My problems: stutters every 2 seconds and 600 hours on the game

[@lunarleaf]

How do you improve on long streams/ lots of stacks notes on sliders? I can hit jumps pretty well and I'm all-around decent (for a 20 hours played 400k pleb), but long streams and stacked notes on/ near sliders kill my FC and sometimes the whole run. Any help/ tips to improve at this? I know it takes time but I feel I should be trying to improve at this other than just playing maps over and over until I can do streams (most of the time I just give up on the map cuz I can't do the long streams / stacked notes). I alternate btw.

[@ShiekMC]

Play maps with lots of patterns and high bpm. Helped me with Streames.

[@ShiekMC]

Idke did the same thing

[@bruhmomento6458]

RIP I climbed up 2 star To 5star with HD After not playing with HD Feels So weird And keep failing

[@trapmeloli7392]

I’m in 200k, and I started playing with hidden... it helps a lot once you start to get into more cluttered maps. 20k feels like it’s a little...insane of a wait tbh... XD Edit: hard rock will murder you while working up the stars. Avoid that. Though hidden may help.

[@VelocityFTW]

Hidden will murder you just as easy.. I see players all the time that cant read anything other than hidden. Honestly if you can play them early good for you. But if you're struggling and not improving and you're using mods, its more than likely the issue.

[@trapmeloli7392]

VelocityFTW: Yes, totally agree. :D There is a difference in everybody, and play styles differ. some people find it hard to read with hidden, others can only play with it. right now I just started really playing with hidden like, Yesterday? and it has improved my reading drastically. the game is simple enough to understand and learn the basics. once you get that down, and reading becomes easier, then hidden won't do much to your reading. the only real problem I see with hidden is forgetting when to tap after it disappears. (i've had a little trouble with that) because once you are out of fast parts you kinda have to hope you remember when to tap after it's gone. this causes me too miss one or two, but you adjust quick. honestly, I only use hidden because I have trouble reading trio streams leading in or out of sliders. this helps me see those quicker, because the slider disappears. though for some this may be a major hindrance, it helps me out a lot. and trying to switch out is annoying once you get used to it. XD (I'm not good at this game or anything. I've only beaten, like, two five stars? and they were both short sorta PP farm like maps. so I don't really count those...) anyway, keep up the good work! I've seen a few of your videos and they are pretty interesting! And yes, all of these type of "tips for getting better" videos will get plenty of hate. and not everyone will understand the fact that you know everyone has different play styles. One of the biggest things that some need to learn is the "You do you!" part of skill based games. if that's how you play best, go for it. I'm not sure I will ever switch to tablet tbh... XD but I can admit that Mechanical is definitely superior, though I use memchanical right now. (Membrane with a little extra to it. supposedly gives you a mechanical "feel") (I have to learn to stop talking) :)

[@xx_xxxxx_xx4800]

i've spent so long not caring about pp or fc's and especially accuracy but i'll try to do that now. EZ is also really good reading practice

[@magidolce_]

When you play with mouse on a laptop :^)

[@KiraPenPen]

Pain

[@daniel1RM]

Like Training gymnastics on dirt/grass, when going to a spring floor you’ll fly!

[@panquemadol]

regarding the mech keyboard point, since a good one isn't usually cheap, I'd recommend using a membrane board like the Logitech K120, it's unbeatable for the price given its key's short travel. also please don't bother with outemu switches, they might not feel bad but they can be inconsistent which will do more bad than good, save up for something else.

[@AndroidArtzForce]

I feel hurt Ive been playing membrane for 1 year :(

[@eluone6733]

4200pp мой опыт: 1)Таблет vs мышь. пассал 7* на мышке за 600р (которую не срывало), с дерьмовым ковриком на 1500dpi x1 сенса, был тогда 3000pp челиком, затем покупаю таблет и за 2 недели полностью переучиваюсь на маленькую зону, потом повышаю зону чуть и ебошу на такой уже полтора года. Затем покупаю хорошую мышь и продолжаю играть таблет. 2)Мембрана vs Механика - тут я потерял себя.На мембране(3800pp): ставлю топ скор с дт(~250pp), пассаю биг блек впервые, ебошу 240 стримы стабильно, но с малой стаминой, вообщем я на своем пике. В следующие 3 дня мне приходит механника на редах, пытаюсь жать - ели получается 160. Начинаю упорные тренировки, пропадает весь интерес, импрув не идет. Еще вчера ебошил на пике, а сеогдня ты говно. Бросаю осу на 2-3 месяца играю в другие игры превыкаю к мехе, возращаюсь играю онли в свое удовольствие. Все еще не могу нормально жать больше 180бпм. Играю еще пол года и наконец сегодня уже жму 240-260 после разминки прям очень хорошо.(становлюсь 4200челиком играя ноумод) 3)Таппинг - начиная играть у меня было 2 кнопки, и я подумал - ну не зря же здесь две кнопки. Так я стал играть онли альтернейт (главный палец - средний) могу сказать, что пытался в сингл и у меня херово получается. А альтернейт вызывает иногда надоедание, поэтому приходится иногда разнообразить игру tap-x ом или тем же недо синглом. Также у меня очень хорошо, как я думаю благодаря альтернейту получается играть альтернейт мапы (от val0108 и похожие) 4)По своему опыту, а также опыту друга, который провел на релакс сервере сотню часов - знаю что релакс помогает. Использовал макрос на один сложный трюк в какой то там игре, а потом благодоря ему начал чувствовать тайминг и смог идеально, несколько раз подряд выполнять трюк, который у чуваков которые никогда не использовали макросы получается с 5 раза. 5) У меня все плохо с аккураси из за того что я очень рано (с 2500pp) начал играть дт. Я ебошил 5.9* мапы на 90% акки фк и был доволен :). Зато теперь могу ебошить ar 10.3 уверенно и 9.5+dt читается но есть пока проблемы со стримами. 6)Сейчас я спокойно импрувлюсь. Не фармлю скоры, играю в свое удовольствие. Выключаю игру как токо надоедает, но уже через час-другой захожу в нее снова :) В мп на техно мапах часто могу дать нереальное и обыгрываю играков у которых по 5-6к пп. Пасснул вот недавно гансту с дт.

[@galleriet3185]

I have a bad habit of always pressing shift randomly while playing and it makes me miss a lot

[@LunaDaBintu]

Don’t tap with like a pound to 5 pounds of force, I’m guilty of this and it hurts my tapping speed

[@Llamanator_]

I find fast triples very difficult because I can't alternate ZXZ XZX which makes triples a pain in the ass.

[@smellywizards1096]

1. I play/focus better with HD 2. I'm a mouse player because it's more comfortable 3. I'd buy a mech keyboard if I could but I can stream decently with membrane

[@spacicle4756]

To me, RX actually improved my aim by a lot. But it was slight improvement, so you probably will improve your aim quicker with these tips.

[@Kaminomenom]

what about the tapping tho? Rythm is also important and being able to hit bursts, streams and good fingercontrol. People are forgetting that this game is a Rythm game and not an Aim game also reading is more important than aim since im like 2 years late i hope you're like in high 6 digit or 5 digit now

[@vggglat6424]

is there a way to like play in a semi sandbox mode where you can't die in like solo maps even if u do miss a lot of notes?

[@Everett02]

No fail

[@MintPro47]

I don't have a mouse pad that's why I keep failing Like when I get to click something .... Yeah

[@ginneko3394]

I kinda like my laptop keyboard more than a mech keyboard because it feel more instant, you apply pressure and it goes down, while with a mech it feels like i have to push it down for a while to get a tap. I could get used to it but then I'd have to carry a mech kbd around, which is just a waste of space.

[@mush2938]

Just a disclaimer, this comment is kind of like a forum question, but I'm too lazy to go over there. I'm gonna try to get a mechanical keyboard soon, but idk if it could hook up correctly and set up normally with my laptop or not. I could atleast try to get a mechanical numpad. Any cheap suggestions that work okay for their price? (I'm a budget gamer, I only had enough money to buy a razer deathadder for FPS games and a veik s640 tablet for osu. My laptop's a piece of shit, and barely passes by the minimum specs needed to play any medium quality game.)

[@willyomnom8400]

Big problem for me: My Wrist I have a ganglion cyst on my wrist, I literally cannot play. So lesson of the day, check your wrist

[@KNhunterX]

I play mods only to farm. I really see no real benefit of getting good at FCing 3-4* maps on HDDT other than farming pp. I warm up and practice using 6* maps a lot and I also play a lot of jump/stream maps including the practice mapsets. This helped me the most in the long run as I can see my self FCing (heck, even SS-ing) a 5.5* nomod now. This is something I can't do couple months earlier because I was too focused on farming with HDDT. I also have to tell myself every now and then that I am playing the game for fun.

[@anotheryoutubekid3080]

In my opinion I think it’s good to play hr as a worse player to help improve accuracy and read higher ar

[@kyuu435]

I have a serious issue of not liking to play maps i can FC or get good acc. I usually try to pass 5-6* maps and don't really improve a lot. RIP

[@waza660]

So , I'm a mouse only player but I don't do that because I want to say it . I just never bought a tablet . I recently picked up osu again but I always played in HR and I'm just now starting to play with no mods aside maybe double time on easy maps ... I posted a clip of my current progress where you can see me get frustrated in my playstyle. I was wondering if you can give any tip on just speed or do I HAVE to invest into a tablet ?

[@Nole2701]

Cookiezi changes his tablet area very often depending on the song he's playing.

[@LilyLemonadee]

Are you going to do another skins of the month video now that April has ended?

[@VelocityFTW]

Yup, sometime next week :3 It will continue as long as I find good skins

[@mercury9060]

But what if I play better with hidden due to HUD clarity? I turned off basically everything, my hp meter, accuracy, length meter, leaderboard, etc, so I have nothing to lose focus. HD helps because it increases clarity even more. Yes, in one week, with playing only hidden and a little bit of dt, I gained 400+ pp and dropped 400k+ positions on the leaderboard. Was 750k now I'm 350k.

[@jordans9801]

I completely disagree about the mods. Not going to explain why, I just do.

[@m4sterred853]

AnTi Toxic you’re so right. I can’t count how many times I got better acc on maps with high density and low AR (essentially poor mapping) by turning on HR.

[@velcya1006]

As a 4k player i can say you don't need to be afraid of mods as a low rank player, atleast play them once in a while or if you practice them alot balance the playtime of them with nomod, helps alot to not get stuck :)

[@jonathanhester7135]

If i still remember, i skip 4 star and go directly to 5star as soon i can pass 3 star. The only problem is that i cant really stream well which maybe because i use membrane keyboard. Also, i cant play without hidden cuz nomod suckz

[@tglppl6642]

Jonathan Hester same bad habit here of playing with HD

[@varungandhi8796]

1:22 was that your keyboard double tapping?

[@tglppl6642]

Single tapping is a bad habit yet no one mentions that.

[@CrispyHands]

I'am was bad with pattern stream and some Extreme jump. So yeah, i'am skipping that things and find a another way to learn.

[@Jae-io2br]

The farming meta is real.. I reached 5 digit in under a year and still have 2 months left to complete a whole year. I am now focusing on finger control stamina and speed which is going smoothly because recently if just healed my condition called trigger finger ( search it up )

[@vnckk]

I even play it my way with 99% acc on 4-star maps with bursts and jumps. but my biggest problem even after 1 year of playing is the mouse drift, I tried in every way to minimize this problem, but I was not born with a gift equal to the top mouse players lol. I play by moving only the wrist with my arm resting on the table. Good mouse players say to move your arm, but it's very uncomfortable for me.

[@bigmansulo]

Thats good enough you dont need to use your whole arm just play with what you feel the most comfortable

[@vnckk]

@@bigmansulo I switched to tablet and I have no more problems.

[@darmoenoyoga.4422]

i never pass 4* after 3 years playing osu.....

[@OGamingg]

My keybinds QW for clicking and jumping or I use W for all my playing

[@renzo5285]

As a personal experience, don't play only at night or when you are tired, you get no muscular memory (aim) whatsoever, plus you can't play at your best.

[@riverm5889]

It's weird for me because I play best at night when I am tired for some reason. I don't know why

[@remi6197]

All normal keyboards are membrane tho. And some people actually don't mind having to release the key fully.

[@devinestey839]

I’m rank 29k and I only use HD unless its a super hard to read map but even those I’m started to be able to read. I had to get a new computer about a month ago so I decided that I’m only going to play maps that are 2min and higher and I feel like it’s help me with constantly a lot it’s a lot of work but I think that’s a good way to improve your overall aim.

[@aDm219]

best tip dont retry if you get score below 90%

[@davidsinel20]

What is the map that you played during the video?

[@VelocityFTW]

It’s in the description

[@Temnotal]

What skin is being used in this video ?The one mentioned in the description is different.

[@tastycarbonara]

tfw you can't tell the difference between mecha and membrane except from the sound lol

[@starryskyhighway9628]

in term of playstyle im always all rounder...doesnt matter if high sens or low sens or small area or big area im comfortable with all of it but in the end i always got disadvantage regardless of my playstyle..if it small im unable to keep it consistent and pen/mouse slip a lot , if it too big my hand will sweaty faster im doomed to stuck in my rank forever..not even 4 digit

[@evermythic9480]

i played some 4* maps with hdhr, it did help me read for dt since dt makes ar higher too. also, i practiced alternating a long ago but despite that, i mainly singletap

[@justsomerubikscubewithouta6867]

For the tablet area sqaure test, just play last goodbye on determination. The ending has a bunch of them. Bass slut works too on last diff

[@ImNicilis]

I have a lot of problems with jumps, I move my tablet so early and it’s hard to get out of that habit and it’s pissing me off, any tips.

[@Jaksonranger]

Ok so this is an entirely different problem, but i change my area because of hand fatigue/pains. i try to find the best area that won't hurt my hand. eventually, this position becomes painful itself and i have to change. it works somewhat, but i cant find a way to stay the same for a long time. nice video man, very helpful and informative!

[@VelocityFTW]

I had a similar issue as im not naturally right handed. Long story short, how are you holding your pen? What position is your arm/wrist? You might be holding them wrong and stiffing your joints.. You could also be using your wrist to move it rather than your fingers. Could be all of these things, just check yourself over and reply again, i would be happy to help ;3

[@nhozdien5058]

You can hold the pen in the middle which reduces wrist movements. In addition, shuffling the jump maps and stream maps will help. I used to play jump maps exclusively for 2 days and it hurts my wrist.

[@rainblue8005]

lmfao sometimes my pen slips out of my hand during map and i play osu 4 years :V

[@fanshi5302]

Find area that u can reach all parts of the screen comfortably then adjust it, keep balance speed/precision.. Then u may keep feel hand pain, but keep o playing, it will be gone eventually

[@kara_thewolf7518]

What types of tablets do you need? I have two but idk if their the right ones

[@LucyWings]

I improved but I'm still a 6 digit but I can't rankup that much because my wifi is so terrible that scores don't upload... here is my profile: osu.ppy.sh/u/10728115

[@Sammm30]

I'm currently at 120k and I haven't touched a single mod, I may occasionally play relax on some of my favourite map that are 6*+ is that bad or should I stop?

[@siberianhusky6342]

even 2 digits play relax, just don't overdoit

[@this_too_shaII_pass]

Can someone give a real argument why membrane keyboards are worse? I understand that they are worse if you play without actually lifting you fingers off the keys, but I think most players do lift. I feel like because most people think mechanical keys feel better than membrane keys, they automatically assume they give an advantage to playing. If you like the feel of a membrane keyboard then it's not gonna hurt your gameplay. That's what I believe, but I'm open to arguments

[@Rikpro0819]

Membrane keyboards usually have higher input latency compared to mechanical keyboards, mechs also have lower actuation points so the key you press will be registered faster, membranes have a lower lifespan which can lead you to buying several membrane keyboards in a year if you play osu intensively (not being able to type properly because you played too much osu is a bit annoying). There are many different switches you can use and most of them give very obvious feedback to let you know that the key press was registered, other switches register almost as soon as you start applying pressure. Tactile switches can help you be more accurate on maps and they make it easier to control your fingers precisely, though you will probably be a bit slower compared to using a linear switch, which do the exact opposite. Membranes don't really give feedback, unless you bottom out a key and in my experience are way harder to press than any mechanical keys (they all require different force to press, the lowest being 45g and the highest being above 100g if I'm not mistaken. I've used cherry browns and reds, razer greens, romer-g's and infra switches, which were all more pleasant to use than my rubber dome keyboard). Membrane keyboards also feel mushy in comparison to almost any mechanical switch, but this is entirely personal preference.

[@Jack-dq9nc]

I can not buy a mechanical keyboard because is too expensive in my country, but do high profile membrane keyboard work?

[@dr_weil]

My setup: a laptop and a cheap Genius wireless mouse. My habits: HR+PF (except for 4-* maps)

[@smolson8471]

I’m not a hipster(which there’s nothing wrong w/ being a hipster anyways)... I just don’t have a lot of money and wasn’t looking into a game that would require me spending extra funds.

[@kurean5808]

I would say that you should pick up the EZ mod early on as that would really help out with reading

[@VelocityFTW]

Early on all maps are low ar so it doesn’t make sense to bump up the CS as it won’t really help at all

[@chubschum]

thanks I will try this in the future to improve myself. I just recently tried to get into osu! and get better so I tried some easy but hard maps to show my friend that I'm improving. my dream is to surpass him I consider him a veteran sense he has been playing for a couple a years now. anyway nice video! :)

[@DZAG_OFFICIAL]

Does The Razer Ornata Count as a membrane Keyboard? It’s a Mecha-Membrane Keyboard.